thread: Anyone in VIC done the police check required to continue or commence IVF post-July?

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  1. #1
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    Nov 2009
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    Victoria - Police State

    Most Victorians, the writer included, would support initiatives to protect at risk Children and therefore some suggestions may be helpful. Basic Internet research identified that Australian Politicians and Beauracrats may pose considerably more risk to their children than IVF couples. To support this proposition the following are listed:

    Milton Orkopoulos , 2008 NSW Labour 13 years detention, 28 Child Sex Offences
    Keith Wright, 1993 Qld Labour, 11 years, Child Sex Offences
    Bill D’arcy, 2000, Qld Labour, 11 years, Child Sex Offences
    Terry Martin, 2009, Tasmania, Court hearing in progress, Child Porn
    Willian Stuart Brown, 2000, Ausaid/Australian Embassy Jakarta Child sex offences
    Peter Hollingworth allowed a known Paedophile priest to continue working, whilst Archbishop of Brisbane – latter resigned as Governor General as a result of the scandal.

    In view of this, it is fair for the population to demand that:

    1) The Police Clearance and working with children requirements for IVF patients be removed, or that this requirement be introduced for all Victorians of reproductive age.

    2) Politicians should subject themselves to special scrutiny and police clearances before being allowed to have children on the basis that there appears to be considerable more risk of children being abused by politicians than IVF parents.

    To date no evidence has been produced by any politician supporting the case that there is an issue with child abuse among IVF patients. I have written to many politicians without a sensible response, excpet for the Greens who are very supportive.

  2. #2
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    Jul 2009
    Melbourne
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    and to add my twopenneth in, apart from being outreagously offensive by implication, it's also utterly utterly pointless.

    I've lived in Australia for 1.5 years. Did they check with the UK police? No. So I (or DH) could have been the UK's most wanted list for 33.5 years of my existence, and moved country to escape it (as notable paedos do- like Gary Glitter - not the UK's best export), and would not have shown up on the stupid little form.

    honestly. As if people live in one place all their lives.

  3. #3
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    Feb 2004
    Melbourne
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    LondonMiss, great point, anyone from overseas wouldn't come up on the Australina register.

  4. #4
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    The thing is, unless every person who wishes to fall pregnant (naturally or not) is required to undergo a police check prior to even trying, then it is discrimination.

    With only a relatively small percentage of children born in Australia are a result of IVF (I think it's something like 4% Australia-wide, so an even smaller number if you just consider Victoria), that means that the majority of children born in Australia will not have had the dubious 'benefit' of having their parent's police cleared.

    So to place this impost on just a few for no real reason is arbitrary and disciminatory. Unless there is a known and proven history of peodophiles undergoing IVF to conceive children (and why would they when 96% or so of them can simply do it naturally?), then there isn't sufficient reason to impose this breach of privacy on an infertile couple.

    I think this is simply a case of a pollie looking for cheap point-scoring without the stats to back it up. The problem is that as IVF patients are in the minority, it got passed as being 'in the interests of the child'.

    I take real issue to being considered guilty until proven innocent. Yet this is what this legislation does. All Victorian IVF patients are being treated as if they are criminals until they can prove otherwise. Disgraceful.

    So what are we going to do about it?

  5. #5
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    Feb 2009
    Brisbane
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    ITA Sushee. Even though I am in Qld, I would be willing to help out in anyway i can to get this reprehensible situation changed.

    With all the changes to medicare re OB & GYN, IVF and this, it just seems like women and in particular woman with infertility issues (who are a minority and by definition a disabled minority at that) are being targeted. It is disgusting.