Another scan today...same old news. Still only showing the 3 dominant follies. Will trigger tomorrow night with epu on Thursday. With only 3 my belly is feeling huge...bigger I think than my previous cycles...weird!
Have not considered donor eggs/sperm elarwood. Not that I have anything against it just never considered it. We discussed our end point tonight & have drawn the line at this next stim cycle. Not getting any younger, cycles are so very draining both emotional & physical & unfortunately we aren't made of money so the hunt for the golden egg has a finish line now. Not that it will be easy to call it quits if it doesn't go our way but we have to be realistic about it all. Not that i am feeling defeatist & I will be doing everything in my power to fulfill this dream. Staying positive!!!
Good luck for EPU tomorrow Joe. Cycles are very draining so I can understand why you're feeling that way. Between the 2 cycles, I hope you get that golden egg for a sibling for your little one.
I have one more week before beta & it's doing my head in. Remaining positive as there really is no reason why it shouldn't work.
Ended up with both being mature & able to do icsi. This morning 1 had fertilised but the other 1 hadn't quite made up its mind either way. Will know tomorrow if both are good enough to freeze. FX!!!
Only managed to get the one for freezing. Perfect day 2 four cell embie. The other one hadn't done anything overnight which was a bit disappointing. But 1 is better than none I suppose. Now to do another cycle (hopefully a few more eggies to start with this time!). Not sure if I am going to do back to back cycles or if I have to wait until January but the latter is probably more likely unfortunately.
The tww is a killer elarwood! Got anything exciting planned to try to take your mind off it? Hoping this is the one for you FX xx
Joe congrats on your little emby! Will you do a different protocol next time to try and get more eggs?
Elarwood how have you been feeling? Any feelings either way?
Afm, af arrived yesterday I had been expecting her to after 2 days of bfns so it wasn't a huge surprise. We've had the mental breakdown and now just deciding what to do. We don't know if we will do another round ivf or just stop 'trying' for the next year and see what happens.
Do I need to call in for af arriving? Or do I just wait till my bt on weds?
Penny so sorry that it didn't happen for you this time. Big hugs xx. With all the added hormones & pressure it can be a very emotional time. Take plenty of time for yourself. I would prob give the clinic a call to let them know, they may not need you to come in for bt then. Save yourself from another emotional trigger. Take care xx
I am certainly hoping they change my protocol next cycle. DP & I have agreed it will be the final stim cycle so I want to do everything I possibly can to make it a good one!
Penny, that's devastating news. I just don't understand why a tested embryo doesn't work. It's a horrible process & grosely unfair. You should ring your clinic tomorrow & let them know & also book into to see your FS. Talking with FS always helped me feel a little better & also the counsellors are very helpful. i am devastated for you, as you go through so much & more with the testing you expect it to work. My first cgh embryo was ectopic. I wonder if your nk cells were suppressed enough or if it was the embryo. Look after yourself. It's a hard decision.
I haven't had any signs of AF or vice versa, and I'm on pregnyl so I can't & won't do a POAS. Also my progesterone is at a good level (tested on friday again) so it wouldnt come anyway until i stop meds. We had good friends over last night @ they announced their pregnancy. I couldn't wait for them to leave so I could burst into tears. I had a huge meltdown after they left last night. I am literary shaking from the anxiety & not sleeping. A lot is at steak for this cycle & what if it doesn't work!
Joe, that's disappointing about the one embryo. It is better than none though. Will your FS up your dosage or try something new in the hope to get more eggs? Did you take baby aspirin or clexane? Or Menopur? Those were the 3 things that were diff in my last stim cycle & got 20 more eggs than normal! I honestly think the increased blood flow helped. Hopefully you can do back to back, I hate the waiting & although the emotional & physical journey is tough, when cycling you feel like you are doing something towards achieving the end goal.
Bfn for me. Hcg was 5. I am totally lost for words. I just don't understand how 2 cgh embryos cannot work. They were both fully hatched, graded AA. We did all the immune things which makes me even more angry as to why it didn't work. Waiting to talk to FS later on this afternoon. I am going to make an appt with a reproductive immunologist who my FS recommended. I don't think I'll do the cgh testing again, I'm scared the biopsy ruined my embryos or maybe the results were inaccurate.
Oh elarwood I'm so sorry! It's so unfair and I don't understand why your embys didn't stick either! Do you think it's a uterus/lining issue or that both embys failed to grow further? For me I think my emby failed to grow further for some reason. We also won't be doing the testing again as don't feel it's worth the extra $3600. Thinking of you sweets xx
Joe are you waiting till Jan to cycle again?
Afm, af nearly finished which is nice. Had the worst cramps yesterday and a bit today but af hasn't been really heavy or anything which was good. Hoping for a nice normal ovulation month to get back into it ourselves. We have a review appt with FS in early Dec but don't think we will be cycling again till around March.
Oh Elarwood so sorry it didn't work. Saying the obvious but you must be devastated. Your FS must be at a loss also if he has referred you to reprod immunologist. The cgh testing is very reliable so there must be something else at play (as if you need more battles!). Hoping they can find some answers for you. Take care xx
Nothing is set in stone yet Penny but prob will have 1-2 cycles to break things up & then start again. Its our absolute last stim cycle so want to do everything possible to get a good quality collection. Don't think rushing into it will help. Prob should send an email to nurses to see what they have in mind though.
Nice to hear that you seem to be doing ok. Next year will be here before we know it
I'm poking my head in here, as our next step on our IVF journey is to undergo PGD testing.
A little bit about me- I'm 29 and DH is 33.
We have a 3.5 yo, who was conceived naturally.
We've been TTC #2 for 2.5 years.
IVF for 1.5 years.
During that time, I've done 2 x antagonist stimulation cycles, with fresh transfers for each of those and 4 FET's.
6 transfers all up with 3 chemical pregnancies and 3 straight up BFN's.
Our reason for IVF is male factor infertility, DH's sperm have abnormal heads.
After a barrage of tests, each not revealing why our embryos are not implanting- FS thinks a PGD cycle is what's needed- so here I am
Just waiting to hear back from the PGD nurses- but it looks like I may be able to start a down reg cycle when I get my period.
I'm coming from a FET, so should be within 1-2 days.
I haven't done a down reg cycle before, so I'm a little anxious about running too close to Christmas.
Oh, and of course- the cost!!!
Could anyone tell me, at which point do you have to pay the PGD portion?
Is it all paid together when you pay for your cycle?
From what I can find- it looks like about 13 thousand before the rebate?
Thanks for listening ladies- sorry for the novel.
I'm off to read through the rest of this forum
Ps hope I'll find some information on Synarel- quite nervous about a nasal spray!!!
Hi Emma!Making the cross over!! Hoping it is an easy transition for you. I have only done PGD IVF cycles so to me it is "normal".
It's great that you can start straight after you FET. Not sure how you managed to get a PGD date so quickly but very lucky so run with it! I had to wait 3 months last time & am looking to have to wait another 2 for my next. Do you know what the PGD is going to be testing for? CGH? Are you doing ICSI too?
Don't be discouraged....but Synarel is just nasty!!! Very easy to take though. At least you know that you uave taken it properly. Awful taste runs down the back of your throat & it gives me headaches. Not bad enough for meds, just annoying. Keeping fluids up seems to help though. Take it after food though as I find it tends to destroy the taste.
I have had to pay the full cost prior to collection. Bank balance takes a bit of a hit all at once but rebate comes through fairly quickly from Medicare. This last cycle where we banked to go with our next we only paid the IVF bit (~8K). I will generally only pay the day before collection just in case something goes wrong & the cycle is cancelled.
Hoping this is your best Chrissie pressie ever...good luck !!!
Hello, was just popping in to hopefully hear some good news but not the case... Elarwood I'm so sorry this cycle didn't work for you I can't imagine how difficult this has been... xxx Also sorry to hear about your bfn penny. Life can be so cruel sometimes... stay strong
After I spoke to the PGD nurse, I discovered that whilst I have started my cycle- well I start the pill tomorrow- I won't have EPU till February!
So it's an extra long cycle :-)
Welcome Emma (my name is Emma too). Sorry to see you in here. It's a horrible journey & the PGD side of things adds another element. Secondary infertility also sucks! Although we did IVF for my DD it was our first cycle & transfer. Since then it's been a long 2 yrs & 7 cycles with no luck yet. That's a very long time before EPU.. Is it because of the Christmas closures?
I am still so angry & frustrated about this last cycle not working. FS is confident it's embryo quality, which I find so hard to believe given they were both cgh normal & 7AA but he says cgh can only test chromosomes & there are other genetic things that can be wrong & hence theres only 70% success rate & not 100%. He doesn't think it's an implantation issue since we did the intralipids etc I guess we'll never know. AF finally arrived today, we are going straight into another frozen cycle with our last cgh embryos. We have 3 left, a 6CC & 2 morulas that they'll defrost & grow out all 3 & pick the best 2. I'm not holding out a lot of hope but we have to give them a go. If not, a fresh stim cycle (no. 5) in Jan with luveris for egg quality & saizen (human growth hormone). We are undecided whether to do the cgh testing again. FS says it could be worth it since our normal rate was 40% & could save on FET's, but I've lost confidence in the testing. What do you think girls? If money was no object, should we do it?
Thanks for popping in munchkin, I honestly thought this cycle would work as we had such good odds. Such a cruel process.
Joe - it's not long at all until the new year & cycling again. 2014 will be our year!
Penny - all the best for trying naturally & hope you won't need your march cycle.
I have been reading through previous posts and thought I would introduce myself and seek support as we commence our journey with pgd.
After waiting almost 6 months we have just received a call to say our pgd test has been designed and we can commence our first ivf cycle. My DH and I have undergone many tests and I have been diagnosed with pcos and DH has abnormal shaped sperm. I'm also undertaking more tests on my thyroid and possible hormone imbalances.
At this point in time it's really challenging to not focus on all the barriers and hurdles we are about to be faced with, but our fingers and toes are crossed for a positive outcome.
I just have a few questions someone may be able to help with:
* we have been given the option of doing pgd testing on the 3rd or 5th day, has anyone else been given this option?
* with pcos how many eggs should I expect to be retrieved in a cycle?(I know this is very different for everyone... But just averages or experiences would help!)
Thanks for sharing your stories, I wish you all good luck on your journeys and look forward to sharing mine!
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I had been expecting her to after 2 days of bfns so it wasn't a huge surprise. We've had the mental breakdown and now just deciding what to do. We don't know if we will do another round ivf or just stop 'trying' for the next year and see what happens.
I can't imagine how difficult this has been... xxx Also sorry to hear about your bfn penny. Life can be so cruel sometimes... stay strong
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