Kel - the LH will vary from day to day. What you don't want is for it to go up too much before the trigger - the Lucrin is doing a nice job preventing you from ovulating early with all those wonderful follies. I was told the E2 will double roughly every two days. It will really increase as the follies mature and produce more of their own estrogen (hope I have explained this correctly). Cannot stress enough to drink up the water. The trigger will further temporarily increase your E2 (apparently) so drink - drink - drink
Last edited by Where there's hope; January 21st, 2009 at 12:08 PM.
Clinic rang. E2 now 5494 (up from 3498 on Monday) and another scan booked for tomorrow morning. Trigger will probably be tomorrow night and EPU Saturday.
WTH: will keep fingers crossed tha the smaller ones catch up. 15 follies in total is a great number - do think it may already be an effect of the DHEA?
Cuddlepie - thanks. Being the usual "me" I am now worried about wasting the 4 eggies 20mm and over. Do you know anything about what follie size is "overcooked?" The ones 10 and less will have so much catching up to do!
Sara - on DHEA. Might be - I am hoping it is. But we have also changed from Puregon to Gonal-F and my FS said I may respond differently. Thinking back, all up I got 11 follies on first cancelled cycle (too low a dose of Puregon to get them anywhere). Last cycle, I had 8 mature follies plus two littlies appearing at the last minute (so a similar number). Then I wonder if the Nov cycle was held back by doing two in a row - like you did (one cancelled, one with EPU). I think Buliej said that doing two in a row can give you a lower number in that second cycle. Does this make sense? So maybe your next cycle will improve further with the break. I will be very curious to see what your BT result is...
WTH: If you're worried about the four larger follies I woudl call the clinic and see what they say just to make sure they have given you the right info about the trigger.
Hi WTH, I know you might be a bit worried, I was the same when I felt that I am losing those bigger ones. I am not sure how big is too big or overcooked, but given that there are still 3 days before EPU, there are quite good chances for those around 10mm to catch up, normally it grows about 2mm a day. As we discussed before somewhere in the thread, size of follies can also vary in order to contain mature eggs, could be as small as 14mm in some cases. So I am sure out of those smaller ones, there will be enough to replace the number you may lose. You do start to feel the pressure as the cycle at this stage, try to relax hun but I know its so hard to do though.
I did (rather meekly) question the nurse about waiting a day - asking if it was to help the smaller ones grow (they are mostly 8-9mm) and was told, "yes".
Thanks for being there for me. I really appreciate it.
WTH - Man this is such a rollercoaster eh? And us women who liked to be informed just torture ourselves. If we just ignored all results and did what the clinic told us then we would probably be far less stressed. Not something I could ever do but nice thought! I wouldn't be too concerned about losing some of the larger ones. Naturally, I think you get LH surge when a follie is about 24mm so still some room to move. Hoping tomorrow's scan gives you a couple extra goodies.
Thanks for the info re lining and acu points. I am having twice weekly acupuncture at present purely to work on lining. Just be nice to get things cocordinated... good lining AND follie number!
Kel - wow that E2 is high but not suprising given your follie number. AS the others have said... drink, drink,drink! I am sure your clinic will monitor you a bit more closely post EPU
CP and Sara - thanks for all your support girls. Hopefully you are joining us in the "game" very soon
E2 2407 today so less than this time last cycle but nurse and FS still a touch worried by my total follie number ( even though most are small). So Puregon dose dropped a couple of clicks. Hopefully this slows all the newies popping up and gets some of the others catching up. Seems they are going to let me go on a bit longer too which i am happy with to get more mature eggies and maybe my lining to get going. Still no orgalutron until tomorrow which I was suprised about but guess gotta trust them and scan on Fri. EPU seems to be heading towards Tues at this stage
Kel: Hope the trigger went well - enjoy the drug-free day
CP
Meredith: That all soudns very good, think it makes sense to let them cook at bit longer
About joining you girls in the game, AF has actually already arrived today, which was quite a bit earlier than expected, so by this rate I'll be starting again around Feb 20.
CP/WTH/Meredith: I eat a high protein/low carb diet normally (not that that's helped keep the weight gain at bay this cycle), and I've been drinking anywhere from four to six litres of water a day anyway. I think the Synarel was making me very thirsty. Provided that the Ovidrel doesn't make me sick and I can keep it up it, it should help keep OHSS at bay.
WTH: GL with your u/s!
Meredith: GL with your scan tomorrow. I hope everything goes along nicely and your follies catch up.
Sara: I'm very grateful not to be sticking myself with anything or putting anything up my nose today! Just FYI, 20Feb is our wedding anniversary.
Last edited by Kel81; January 22nd, 2009 at 07:56 AM.
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Morning girls, AF arrived today, hey Sara, AF buddies... I can't believe that my cycle is 32 days this time, I am always a 28-day girl. Anyway, called clinic today and booked in, first blood test and u/s is on Day 10. Other than that, don't have to do anything, feel so much easier in a natural cycle. Estimated Transfer day will be on 9th Feb...fingers crossed.
Kel, good on you for drinking lots of water, good girl. Good luck with EPU, I hope you get lots of eggies.
WTH & Meredith, waiting for your update on today's scan! Hope all is well!
Sara- yay for AF playing nice for once. Next cycle really not to far away for you.
CP - yay for you too. HOw nice to just let your body do it natural thing knowing that there i a bubba just waiting to go in there at the right time
Kel - Wishing you all the bet for EPU tomorrow. I hope you don't uffer to much afterwards
WTH - we are all eagerly awaiting new of how things went for you today. Trigger tonight?
Next scan for me tomorrow mid-morning as i can't go in on sat like they wanted ( I have to work).
Just about to jab for the third time tonight - antagonist starting today.
CP -I am ok- haven't changed my mood for ages as i guess i kinda am permantly sad at the moment. Not feeling terribly confident about this whole process although trying to stay positive. I just want what i want I guess and its probably too obsessive. Thanks for noticing though! I will try and think of a better mood soon.
Kel - thinking of you today with your EPU - hope you get lots of lovely mature eggies and are not feeling too sore afterwards
Meredith - how did your scan go today? for your lining, though like CP said, it will continue to thicken, even after EPU. GL with starting the Orgalutron this cycle. That darned needle is so damned blunt. BTW I ended up caving and ringing my FS. Unlike the clinic he said he was not waiting for the 10mm one to catch up, but was just further maturing the 14mm one and 17mm one. I wish I could always deal with my FS directly, but I guess IVF is a business and I am but one of many on the production line.
Cuddlepie - yayyy. AF is here. It's great to be able to plan out dates. Hope it does not spoil your splash in Jervis. Have a lovely break.
Sara - likewise for you. Glad AF is here so you know where you are at. You'll be jabbing before you know it
AFM: Wasn't able to log on at all yesterday but I triggered last night Drumroll please... Yesterday's morning scan revealed 21 follies, up from the previous record of 15 the day before. Mostly all on RHS. 12 were over 10mm and 7 of those were 14mm-23mm. Lining 8.3mm. E2 was amost 6,600, which was up almost 2,000 from the same day last cycle. EPU in Sydney tomorrow morning... Just wanna do it!
Last edited by Where there's hope; January 23rd, 2009 at 07:42 AM.
Meredith: I understand your mood, it's hard and everything out of our control. But things are looking good for your this cycle perhaps just try and trust the process.
WTH: we posted at the same time - that sounds all really great, good luck with EPU tomorrow.
I was just wondering if you know how many Orgalutrons you've used this cycle and in the last one - was just surpised about Meredith only using two and me using 8 of them.
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I can't believe that my cycle is 32 days this time, I am always a 28-day girl. Anyway, called clinic today and booked in, first blood test and u/s is on Day 10. Other than that, don't have to do anything, feel so much easier in a natural cycle. Estimated Transfer day will be on 9th Feb...fingers crossed.
for your lining, though like CP said, it will continue to thicken, even after EPU. GL with starting the Orgalutron this cycle. That darned needle is so damned blunt. BTW I ended up caving and ringing my FS. Unlike the clinic he said he was not waiting for the 10mm one to catch up, but was just further maturing the 14mm one and 17mm one. I wish I could always deal with my FS directly, but I guess IVF is a business and I am but one of many on the production line.
Drumroll please... Yesterday's morning scan revealed 21 follies
, up from the previous record of 15 the day before. Mostly all on RHS. 12 were over 10mm and 7 of those were 14mm-23mm. Lining 8.3mm. E2 was amost 6,600, which was up almost 2,000 from the same day last cycle. EPU in Sydney tomorrow morning... Just wanna do it!
CP
hope things are okay.
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