Sara - 2 is still OK, please don't get too down about it (remember, this cycle almost didn't happen and now you have TWO chances for a baby!) - I hope they both fertilize. If they do, will you be putting both back in?
Kel - good luck tomorrow - I hope I didn't hurt your feelings with my foot in the mouth comment.
Big Sara...take care of yourself, you've done everything you can, I know this rollcoaster sucks but don't lose hope yet and remember your fert rate is good...
Julie, I am so sorry hun, I don't know what to say, just huge and stay strong...
WLAB, thanks for poping in and I love the name Cpie...
Sara, last night it was hard to read your post and Julie's, you were both on my mind....its just so much unfairness and heartache in this journey...
I hope the two eggs are both fertilized today and progress to the next step...I know this is hard but hang in there ... Can you do Day 3 PGD? It seems Kel did it, worth checking with Alison?
Julie : I wanted to pop in and reiterate what I said on the phone, and this goes for all of us, you are all brave, sincere, courageous women. We will be meeting up with bubba's in a bugaboo, thinking back of these times, and wondering how we ever got through it. But we will, and we will be rewarded for all our hard work.
We're down to one, seems there was something wrong with the second mature egg - it had three ??, will have to check with the embryologist a bit later.
Really not holding out much hope, but obviously there is always a chance, you never know.
Julie, thanks for reminding me yesterday, you are right, this cycle almost didn't happen and now there is at least a chance how slim it may be - I just think you are absolutely amazing thinking of me while you went yourself through a nightmare Listen to what WLAB says I can see you both there in the future too.
CPie: (sorry I may start calling you by that name too) also still think the two of us will go around the bay walk with prams at some point in the future. And if by some chance it may not happen we will still be happy, there is so much out there.
Thanks for your idea about the day three PGD, I don't think that SIVF still does that but will ask my FS later today.
I will talk to me FS asking if I can come in for an FSH test when my period comes if there is no transfer, in case the FSH is 10 or less I may go straight into another cycle, if not, I hold out and will then test every month hoping that at some point it will be good enough. I won't go on another cycle with a FSH higher than 13 as it obviously is an indicator for me of egg numbers and quality.
Sara, glad you had a plan formed already, at least you've tried this cycle and now knew better about your body, so it is not all vain, you know success always comes after many trial and errors...I am still picturing us pushing prams doing bay walk for sure in the coming days, although all these life lessons are damn hard, let's not losing hope...
Firstly, thank you so much for all of your support over the last week.
Our one perfect little morula grew into our one perfect big blast overnight, and the ET went perfectly this morning. I start progesterone tonight until beta, and have another appointment with FS on Wednesday next week to keep an eye on my OHSS (grade two this time).
I am FINALLY PUPO! We're going to suffer through this 2WW so terribly.
Julie: Not at all!
Sara: I am so sorry, hon. I don't know what to say to make you feel better.
Sara - Julie is exactly right - this cycle almost didn't happen. And remember your outstanding egg quality last time? Still got a good chance you may have blast to be tested
Cuddlepie - more for you
WLAB - hi there. PM'ed you back with Royal Jelly details
A quick hello to you all and sticky vibes for those of you who are finally in a well-deserved TWW. Sara - I hope you are there soon as well. Kel - things sound fantastic for you - I can't wait to see a BFP in your signature.
And thank you all for your thoughts and cyber-hugs.
I also have to remain optimistic (I couldn't do this without hope that one of these cycles will indeed work). My FS really believes it is a numbers game - at this age, she believes 50% of my eggs will be abnormal and it is a matter of getting 1 good one (she did say if I was having better egg numbers she would recommend PGD but it just doesn't make sense when I'm only getting 1 or 2 eggs). Also, I was able to catch some of what I've lost (that is already TMI) and she said it looked like enough for them to run genetic tests on, so I will know for sure whether this was another chromosone issue. As horrible as it was for me to do this - the desire to know for certain what the issue is was overwhelming and it forced me to just do what needed to be done.
We already have a plan in place for the next cycle (that is, the next cycle that I am ready to do - I will definitely be taking a month off). She also had me take a number of the recurring m/c tests - just to see that there's not another issue that has to be dealt with. She didn't volunteer this immediately, but when I asked, she was completely agreeable to running them.
So, it's away for the long weekend for us - with wine & chocolate & cheese (I can't wait) - and then back to wheat grass, acupuncture, Royal Jelly (that will be a new one for me), DHEA (another new one for me), and anything else I read about online other than jumping off a bridge!
Julie, you have an amazing strength and I am so glad you had FS appt so timely and worked out a strategy moving forward...it seems in the next few weeks, a few of us will be running a lot of tests together, can come back and compare notes...
Enjoy you wine, chocolate and cheese weekend together with DH and just gather all your strength... a break can do wonders...talking about jumping of the bridge, seems that's the only thing we haven't done isn't it? if google says it can give me a bub, I won't hesitate to do it either, how crazy we are... Glad you still kept your humour in a sad circumanstance.
Kel: lots of to you, so please that you're PUPO now.
AFM Yep also definitely considering the jumping of the bridge option
Seriously Julie, that' s really amazing. Hope the weekend away will give you lots of strength and that the DHEA and Royal Jelly will help you getting a little one.
WTH: thanks for your support - coudl I also get the Royal Jelly details?
I just talked to my FS she has allowed me to do an FSH test at the start of my next period I just don't believe that a transfer will be possible this time. She doesn't mind me going directly into another cycle but said the FSH could be artificially low coming off a stimulated cycle like if you come off the pill, so need to talk to her about that abit more before making a decision.
CPie I also asked about PGD testing on Day 3, she said SIVF definitely does not do it and she had patients going to other clinics because of that. She said IVF Australia does it on day three, but they let the embryos grow until Day 5 so it doesn't seem to really help. She said to do Day 3 testing and transfer I'd have to go to Melbourne, I am wondering if that would be an option for me.
It's a numbers game and I just don't seem to have the numbers to wait till day 5. I think a few of you are in Melbourne, would you be able to suggest an FS/Clinic where I could just inquire about this as an option?
Sara: Most of us Melb girls are with Melbourne IVF or Monash IVF, my FS from Melb IVF, who used to consult at Monash IVF told me that Monash only like to transfer day 5 embryo's. I am not sure where that fits in with PGD.
ROYAL JELLY
I bought "Nature's Goodness" Royal Jelly. 1000mg for 365 capsules. 1 per day. They came from a health food shop. Reduced from $131.50 to $109.90. They are pretty big! BTW - make sure you check the "use by" date as they need to last 12 months.
Buliej - I agree with Cuddlepie - you are a woman of amazing strength. Enjoy your wine and chocolates because I still hold out such great hope that you will not be able to have them for much of 2009! What your FS says makes total sense about chromsonal abnormalities. My IVF brochure said 2/3 of day 3 day embies and 1/3 day 5 blasts are chromosonally abnormal - in a healthy person in their twenties! I still hold out hope that the DHEA will improve your numbers. Maybe in due course you will get such a number that you might be able to do Day 3 PGD?? It is great that you are also getting some r/c m/c tests done - no stone left unturned seems to be the motto on this thread.
Sara - you have actually solved a mystery for me. I had unusually low FSH (in fact, unusually low everything) when I did my 2nd PGD cycle straight of the bat from the 1st cancelled PGD cycle. Now I know why
Hello to Meredith, Cuddlepie, WLAB and Kel. Have a lovely Easter
Our embie is still going, at 5 cells it's a bit behind but I guess there is still some hope. I am starting to be ok with things, glad that the egg quality at least allowed the embie to get this far.
I've also emailed Dr Sachs and got a reply real quick, I am considering to change over to IVF Australia since they do the biopsy at Day 3 which might be better for me.
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for you hun - I hope everything works out for you
to all of you.
for being PUPO
for you
Glad you still kept your humour in a sad circumanstance.
to Meredith, Cuddlepie, WLAB and Kel. Have a lovely Easter
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