IVF with PGD #5

**Caramello** · October 13th, 2009, 07:10 PM

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**WeeMansMummy** · October 13th, 2009, 08:54 PM

Ferrals we have the same doctor!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder if Motherhood's doctor has the same accent???

I realize you have been bombarded with information, and options and doubts and not alot of hopes but just take next month as a whole new experience, fingers crossed its all good then for you, and we will be cycle buddies!
Do something super fun over the next month.
xx

**Motherhood here i come!** · October 13th, 2009, 08:58 PM

Evening,

Just quickly, I have a male FS so me dont think we have the same FS

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Night night!!

**ferrals5** · October 14th, 2009, 08:13 AM

Thank's jaki-i am feeling better we have decided to go back on the vitex while we wait to try and level out my estrogen and progesterone and i will stop it before my BT next month my acupuncturist(spelling) said it wont do any harm but i feel that it's just the way my body is i alway's ov early and i have a high sex drive (side effect of high estrogen) so we will just wait and see what next BT is and hope they start, me what day in nov is your AF due mine is the 6th which if i fall preg would make me due the exact same day abbi was due i wonder if it's an omen or somthing anyway it's cool we have the same doc we might bump into each other in the waiting room's.
So i have decided to just relax and try to get my estrogen to behave if it's still high we will just do what the doc say's until this year run's out then we throw in the towel and try the old fashioned way and pray that we pass on our good gene's.

**WeeMansMummy** · October 14th, 2009, 12:11 PM

Mine is actually due the 29th or 30th Oct, so i'll be a bit ahead of you. But might end up in clinic around the same time if i make it back for an ET, fingers crossed.
Glad you are feeling better and have a plan.
xx

**Motherhood here i come!** · October 15th, 2009, 07:14 AM

Morning all,

Quick post to update.

Had my first BT this morning and picked up my FSH injections ready to start on Sat. Still no AF though so FX she arrives some time today. Anyone who has her, please send her my way, pretty please.

Nurse told me quickly this morning that I will be on 375IU of Puregon. WOW is what I thought, such a big difference from my first cycle which I was started on 175IU and ended on 350IU. She only told me because I commented on the amount of Puregon 900 I was given

. Lets say my little blue esky is over flowing!!!!

Just will not try and sit and wait patiently for the Nurse to call this afternoon. Hmmmm hurry up afternoon and FX an

AF arrives too.

Wishes and luck to all with where ever your at! Know that Im thinking of you all!

**Motherhood here i come!** · October 21st, 2009, 10:09 AM

Morning,

Well where to begin. AF is just about gone and has been extremely well behaved which was great. Lucrin injection dash from my cousins wedding Friday night went well which was a relief. Started my Puregon injections Sat night at the lovely dose of 375IUs. All good there so far, no real side effects to speak of but I suppose, early days right??? Not so sure that no side effects is good though.
Had my BT bright and early yesterday morning to check on my estrogen levels and for the FS to see whether we need to increase or stay on the same dose of FSH. However, as we speak, I still don't have my next lot of instructions (I do normally get my next lot of instructions around lunch time the day of the BT). So I called my nurse at 4.50pm yesterday all worried as to what was going on. She apologised so many times and explained to myself that they haven't been able to get a hold of my FS at all

. All I could assume was that he has been busy in surgery etc understandable but frustrating none the less. So had a quick chat with the nurse about my levels. Nothing official so to speak but she was trying to help me given the situation of not being able to contact the FS. I let her know that I was anxious to see how I responded on this dose of Puregon given that It was such a high dose. The response I received I didn't like and got me worried. Nurse let me know that I responded pretty much in the same way as my first cycle and then I was only on 175IUs of FSH. She told me that my estrogen levels at my BT last Thurs was 119 and then yesterday morning, was only slightly increased to 143. Not much difference if you ask me, especially for a daily FSH injection of 375. I have tried to rationalise it all, telling myself that I take my injections at 9.30pm and my first one was Sat night and so by the time BT rolled around on Tues morn, technically it was only 2 to 2.5days of FSH. So am hoping against hope it goes up. Last night though I hit the internet and looked up about the estrogen levels and now have myself in a state of worry. Im worried to say the least that things are going down the exact same path as last cycle. Is someone upstairs trying to tell me something??????
So spoke to the nurse this morning just to see if there is anything else I can be doing to get my levels up and unfortunately, theres not. Just have to hang here and wait. All I can hope is that they go way up before the next BT and possibly my first US. Nurse also confirmed that my FS did contact them there late last night after they had all gone and so will be speaking with him today and then calling me with my "official" next lot of instructions (we both agreed after not hearing from FS last night to just continue on the dose of 375IU's). Nurse also assured me that she will have a good chat with FS and I have asked her to let him know that I want to know if there is anything else I can do.
I just don't understand why this is happening. Im even doing acupuncture on a weekly basis and have had about 6 treatments now. Surely things should be better than what they are.
Have had the worst night, didn't really sleep much and now have the sorest eyes and head because of the crying. Almost lost it on the phone too this morning when talking to the nurse. I hope that these emotions are an indication of my raging hormones. DH even told me last night when laying in bed awake that If this one doesnt work, we will give going natural a go. Its only a 50/50 chance the baby wont have his gene though. So who knows

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Will be sure to let you know what happens when I get my call later.

**WeeMansMummy** · October 21st, 2009, 11:21 AM

oh im sorry your all worried. Hopefully your levels will rise and rise.

I know how you feel about the 'person upstairs', between my genes and my DH's sperm i wonder sometimes too.
As for giving it a natural go, some ppl frown apon it but honestly what are we supposed to do??? The most natural feeling for a women is the yearning to mother a child and it does not go away! And considering this technology is fairly new people have always just taken the chance. In my family i have seen bad cases, mild cases and no cases. Its a hard thing to do but i would do it if we could.
Have you had a meeting with Sydney genetics in the same office as SIVF? He is great and i think they can do a test on the baby at about 18-19 weeks or so.

Hope you feel better soon.
xx

**Motherhood here i come!** · October 21st, 2009, 01:40 PM

Just an update as finally got my call from the Nurse. Have to go up from 375IUs to 450IUs with an US and BT on Sat morning. Hmmm doesnt make me feel any better but what did help is that my nurse sensed that I wasnt all that good when she told me and actually called me back to have a chat and make sure I was as ok as I can be.
Like I told her, IVF is hard but when your there for genetic reasons and genetic reasons only, when you have these issues, it makes it twice as hard.
Heres hoping my levels go up and up and up. Got nothing else to do but FX and

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**ferrals5** · October 21st, 2009, 06:21 PM

Motherhood- your having the oppisite problem to me i have plenty of estrogen to spare i wish i could give you some of mine and i know what you mean we can have babies naturally and have to do pgd for genetic issues only and when these stupid problems make ivf hard it is even more stressfull Dh and i have decided if we cant start next month we will go back to try naturally we have a 75% chance baby will be ok and they can test with CVS at 11-12 week's i do know apples and tomatoes are high in natural estrogen google foods high in estrogen i did so i can avoid them eat lots of chicken full of hormones it might help god i hope this cycle will be successful for you.

AFM- November is not to far away but i'm not real optimistic something is going on in my body my FS said my day 1 BT showed i was fertile and would ovulate early but today is day 12 and my opks are still neg and i havn't felt myself ovulate yet so much for being early i don't know what is going on this has never happened i always feel myself ovulate between day 11 and 14 and my opk's always show a really strong line from day 10 so i think i will miss out on November i am gearing myself up for a sorry you can't start your ivf cycle from the pgd nurse that way i wont fall to pieces when it doe's happen.

**Motherhood here i come!** · October 22nd, 2009, 11:59 AM

Sorry in advance for the no personals.

Am still feeling quite down and depressed about my estrogen levels and the up in Puregon from 375IU to 450IU.

Still no side effects what so ever other than being extremely tired and having a slight headache. To be honest, am putting these feelings down to the cries I had yesterday and even earlier today in the toilet at work (a colleage was rude and that got me started).

I have a question. How on earth can I know that my estrogen levels are going the way they should be without having my BT or US till Sat morning. I wish there was a way I could find out just to put my mind at ease. Im not feeling very positive at all and this will only be my first US . Wish I could go back to cycle number 1 when I knew nothing at all.

Hmmmm what to do ladies, what to do. I think I need to talk to the counsellor.

Forgot to add, not even my lovely week long holiday to Fiji I booked yesterday is helping to keep my spirits up. And its not that long till we go either .

**Motherhood here i come!** · October 27th, 2009, 12:20 PM

Afternoon all,

Just a quick one to vent my frustration at still waiting for my BT results from this morning. My stomach is doing somersaults with what the results might possibly be and where it leaves us with cycle number 2. I know that I need to wait, its just hard and this isnt even the 2ww for me lol.

Well back to waiting for the results and the answers to my questions I armed the nurse with yesterday for when she speaks to FS today!!!!

Will update later my results. Thanks again for all your support ladies.

**Motherhood here i come!** · October 27th, 2009, 02:08 PM

Afternoon Ladies,

Well here we go. Just got the call from my nurse.

FS is happy with the results from todays BT as it shows im finally responding to the 450 Puregon YAY! Nurse told me that my estrogen level at todays BT was 1195

. Previously at Sats BT it was 360 and before that it was at 143. Need to keep going with the 450 Puregon and then back in for a BT and US on Thurs morning. Let the nurse know too that I have been feeling a little achy and period pain type feeling the past couple days or so and hoped that it was a good thing. She confirmed that yeah, it is a good thing. With my estrogen levels, we now just need them to keep going up and up.

I cant describe how happy Im feeling now and I feel as if a weight has lifted off my shoulders however as I have just told DH, I cant let myself get too excited, need to calm down and see what happens and go with the flow.

Nurse also let me know that she discussed with the FS what steps we can take to get around the slow response. His response was that in possible future Stim cycles we would start with the Puregon first and then bring in the Lucrin. Obviously I dont need too much surpressing. Oh well we will see hey.

Am so happy now. Bring on Thurs and Body/uterus, you are to be on your best behaviour all the way right to the end with our BFP

(Wishful thinking)

Hope all is well with you ladies. Best wishes for where ever your currently at

**WeeMansMummy** · October 27th, 2009, 04:33 PM

YAAAAAYYYYYYY!!!!! So happy for you!

Awesome news, Im so excited to hear your results on thurs! Good luck, i'll be prayin for you!

xx

**HotI** · October 27th, 2009, 05:01 PM

Afternoon Ladies,

Well here we go. Just got the call from my nurse.

FS is happy with the results from todays BT as it shows im finally responding to the 450 Puregon YAY!

Great news!

take care,

Kate

**WeeMansMummy** · October 28th, 2009, 06:43 AM

I am getting a little impatient waiting for AF. Have settled in at my mums and waiting waiting waiting. I should have been cramping or spotting by now, knowing my luck it will come on the weekend when i can't have the BT.
Please send all your AF vibes my way.
xx

**Motherhood here i come!** · October 28th, 2009, 07:09 AM

Sending AF vibes your way Jaki. What else can bring on AF? Hmmmm maybe some exercise to get the blood flowing etc.

FX that she comes sooner rather than later and preferably before the weekend.