just updating you on my scan, i was a bit disappointed, there is only about 10 growing, the biggest being 18mm and the smallest 6mm and the rest around the 10mm, the nurse says not to worry its an early scan and there might be more next time, the oestrogen was ok so we continue on for now
so sorry Sunbeam...fx donor daddy agrees to try again xx
good luck with your cycle elle
may nemo be your shining light babymama
don't give up minnimouse...it only takes one!
best wishes for everyone else travelling through this maze xx
just started our new gpd feasibility testing...just hoping it doesn't take too long to sort out...only took about 8 weeks last time so looking to cycle towards end of March
hi ladies, just thought id pop in and let you know my 12 week scan went well & everything is on track. it was quite an experience (a good one!), and we are amazed that this is actually happening. after years of infertility & ivf transfer after transfer - it's still a bit surreal but we are allowing ourselves to get a little excited now.
minnie - sorry you didnt have as many as you expected, are you on the same dose as last time? maybe it just means these ones will be top quality...
sunbeam - i hope your dinner with dd goes well this week.
Sunbeam - I'm so sorry about your embies, crossing fingers your donor is keen, how heartbreaking, I am scared of the same. xx#A
Andie - good to hear re the drugs aren't too bad, and my apologies I said Heparin but it was Clexane I was on once before, HATED it and was soooooooo bruised and battered. Those blunt needles were a b*tch.
Girls Jessir's mention of boys/girls above has me wondering, do they tell you what sex the embryo is if you ask before transfer? I wouldn't have thought so as it's probably unethical just intrigued. I don't care what i have next, I just want a healthy sticky one!
AFM - off to pick up all my drugs tomorrow, then just waiting on AF to get started on my first cycle - eeek!
Just a quick update, donor Daddy has agreed to us using donor eggs. Although a beautiful woman has offered to donate to us she has just had a baby so we will see if we can find anyone now but if not we will wait till she is ready to help us. Very very relieved
alison - my clinic don't tell you the sex of the embryo (fairly sure all don't in australia...), they just put in the best looking one. i have asked them to put in the pink one before though... they just laughed... ; )
Andie - That's wonderful news!! I'm so happy things are progressing well for you guys! And hahaha about the pink embie...
I have also wondered about if you can find out the gender; the information is obviously there post testing. It wouldn't make a difference to me either way but I like knowing things, haha!
Sunbeam - Awesome news!! So happy for you!
minnie - Sorry you're disappointed (I remember walking out of my first scan for my last cycle in tears - 5 follies seen). I hope you have some great quality eggs getting ready in there.
Alison - Exciting! Good luck!!
JoeSpratt - I hope the feasibility is sorted before you know it!
AFM - I have my first scan and BT tomorrow so we shall see what's going on in there. I am on 200iu Gonal f and 1 'click' of Ovidrel every 3rd day (to mimic LH) - feeling foggy with patches of feeling unwell but ok (I'm guessing it's related to hormones?!). Fingers crossed I have a better follie outcome than last time. I don't need 20, but more than 5 would be lovely. I think there was something else I was going to say but it's left me atm... Hmm... yep, definitely foggy (haha!).
***Sneaking in to let Minnie know that my last scan showed 3 follicles and I was devastated, but they got 9 eggs out of me and a BFP. The nurse at EPU said some where hiding and they had to dig around for ages. They didn't up my meds, just let me go 1 day longer than my previous 3 stims.
Also to Andie - I am so thrilled that your scan went well. You can breathe a little easier now, although now the symptoms will disappear and you will stress till the 20 week scan which will feel like ages away
Hi Girls - back from my appointment, they proceeded to tell me I had to pay up front today whaaat! Who carries $7,750 around, not me! So have to sort out the money and go back to pick up my cooler back full of drugs. Geez girls I didn't realise there were so many different injections.....plus I have to go back on the clexane after retrieval which I hate. She said I should expect to feel hormonal and tired, i asked about nausea because I have noticed around ovulation I have been feeling off for a day or two anyway and she said most people are fine but if that's how I am I might find it does make me feel yuk - so reading your comment Elle makes me thing I probably will, boo hoo....I hate feeling sick. Off for our counselling session and appointment with the embryologist yesterday. Gosh I didn't realise a few things could cancel the cycle, what's the likelihood of overstimulating etc? My estrogen is normal so will giving it extra cause me to overstimulate???
Update overnight : I think AF is on it's way eeek! I am however totally confused, roughly when does egg collection happen in your cycle? I know it would depend on each individual but should I expect it around the usual time I'd ovulate? the reason I ask is that my daughter starts pre-kindy soon and I worked out if it's around when I'd normally ovulate it may interfere with that? typical! I have to be with her on the first day of attendance so I'm stressing about that now!!!
Hey guys. Just wondering if any of you were thrown out by the stim cycle meds in the past? AF is the most overdue she has ever been and I am starting to think I may have had an accident
*Sneaking in* Alison1973 - I didn't do PGD, but 4 stim cycles. EPU day for me was CD11 from starting the first injection or CD13 from AF.
Babymama23 - Its common not to ovulate the next cycle after a stim cycle as your ovaries are having a rest or to ovulate a bit later than normal. I have had both. 1st stim - didn't ovulate the next month (frustrating as I was waiting for an FET) and then the other time I was late by 2 weeks. The other 2 stims resulted in BFP's. One missed m/c and this little bubba on board. But an accident would be so much more fun I hope thats whats happening for you!
Hi Girls - picked up my bag of goodies yesterday, had our embryologist chat which I really enjoyed and then saw the psych for our pre IVF counselling session, which was not so enjoyable. She asked how I was feeling about doing this cycle (btw we're doing an ICSI cycle due to the PGD) and I said I was feeling quite confident about it and she said she didn't want me to get my hopes up so would like me to be cautiously optimistic. I was horrified and felt awful then! She said she doesn't sugar coat and statistics show that with people like me with low AMH the chances are I could get no eggs and even if I do they may not be very good ones and just to be prepared. quite honestly, now I'm feeling like what's the bloomin point then!!! Half of me thinks I might as well quit while I'm behind, the other half wants to prove her wrong. Argh not what I was expecting, I thought they would be more about making you feel comfortable and relaxed. She told me due to all my miscarriages etc I should handle it all quite well, but when I asked for coping strategies on controlling my moods on the hormones and she said there are none, you just have to ride it out. Just thought I'd get all your opinions before I stress my little head off!! Is this normal for them or am I really a hopeless case??
Alison, personally I think she has a good point. Ivf is a crap shoot. It is marketed as some sort of miracle solution but for many people, it's not. Approximately 40 percent of people will end their Ivf journey without a live baby It's a tough, tough thing to go through, particularly if you have to go through multiple failed cycles. The drugs mess with your emotions (I found my most recent cycle particularly hard) and there is nothing you can really do because you are not really rational iykwim
I found the best way to deal was to hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Don't try to read into ANY symptom because you WILL feel pregnant in your 2WW due to the medication.
It's harsh, but I think you should listen to the counsellor. It's better to get a nice surprise than be utterly crushed by getting your hopes up.
I hope it all goes well for you
Last edited by nothing2lose; January 25th, 2013 at 09:30 AM.
Thanks Nothing2Lose, I actually do feel that way and I said that to her, I don't expect it to work, but I am hopeful that this is my best chance after exhausting other avenues. I think I was more disappointed in the way she shot me down, I am not so silly to think I will walk out pregnant, but I would've liked to have been given a little bit more encouragement for being positive, after all, all you hear through treatment is remain positive remain positive, for once I have allowed myself to be and it's now been shot down in flames ha ha. I'll just have to take every day as it comes, like with anything else in the whole TTC journey and just like you said, hope for the best. Like I said to her, I would like to hope I get at least 2 eggs out of the collection, not expecting any more but will be an added bonus if I get more. And I'm just looking at that part for now, I will conquer this in stages, no point getting anxious or excited about the testing side as I have to get the eggs irst, then they have to fertilise etc etc. Baby steps, pardon the pun!
Alison - I'm sorry your nurse was not more sensitive. I guess they get a lot of fairly naive people in who think it will guarantee them a bub but still she should have been gentler in her approach. I have discovered that the positive thinking part is not so important as we might think so don't be too hard on yourself in those times when hope fails you. I have done cycles very positive, very negative and very apathetic and found it makes no difference, the TTC gods will do as they wish! Ironically my most negative cycle ever (where my old donor daddy managed less than a million sperm and I thought was a total bust) ended in a BFP. My EPU has been anywhere between cycle day 10 and 14 but if you are doing fresh PGD they will time you to fit in with the pgd date.
Try to keep your chin up and remember we are here for you when you start to lose it
Minnie- I think we will just have to be hopeful for you but remember it is quality over quantity.
Babymama - My cycle is usually better after a medicated cycle but that's just my crazy body (which can do a 46 day cycle by itself no problem ) I hope AF is just around the corner. I just finished with her I'll send her over.
Elle - How was the scan yesterday?
Joe - I hope your testing is ready soon.
Andie - I'm so sorry I think in all the craziness of last week I forgot to say congratulations on an awesome 12 weeks scan, so happy and so glad you are keeping us updated
AFM - Well we might have an egg donor. Not sharing any details yet I don't want to jinx anything. Anyway I'm officially not a PGDer any more but I don't know if there is a 'using donor eggs thread' so is it okay if I stay in here with you gals? Please
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It's a tough, tough thing to go through, particularly if you have to go through multiple failed cycles. The drugs mess with your emotions (I found my most recent cycle particularly hard) and there is nothing you can really do because you are not really rational iykwim
Ironically my most negative cycle ever (where my old donor daddy managed less than a million sperm and I thought was a total bust) ended in a BFP. My EPU has been anywhere between cycle day 10 and 14 but if you are doing fresh PGD they will time you to fit in with the pgd date.
) I hope AF is just around the corner. I just finished with her I'll send her over.
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