Tigga - I'm so sorry that your scan didn't give you the all clear. I've had a similar experience and it was so frustrating - you just want to be able to move on from this point. I had my D&C today and am in the same boat - next cycle won't start until first AF and any AF/bleeding prior to 4 weeks from today doesn't count.
Dutchie - 12.6 isn't that bad in the scheme of things - I hope this cycle goes well for you.
Buliej - I am so sorry that you're going through this...you are not alone that's for sure. It's 2 weeks today since my D&C and I've had some really bad lows...last week I had a massive meltdown - just could not stop crying and feeling sad and desperate for a child - but thankfully, I am feeling stronger each day now - and with a clearer head know that I will be ok, whatever the outcome of this journey is. Give yourself time and cry when you feel like crying...it's better out than in!
Also, what do you mean by "and any AF/bleeding prior to 4 weeks from today doesn't count."...I don't quite get what you mean?
Thank you. It is unfortunate that we all know too well what the low points of this journey feel like
I had real lows after my first m/c and still do at times. Saw a little boy this week in a cafe ordering a hot choc on his own and I burst into tears as he was just so sweet! Not even a baby and still made me cry. I hope you are being very good to yourself.
My FS said that if I get what I think is AF before the 4 week anniversary of this procedure she won't count it for cycling puposes. Even though she would be happy to start with first AF, it has to be at least 4 weeks away. I hope I'm explaining this well. This is consistent with what I've read when I was reading up before my last d&c - the jest of what I read is that it is not a "real AF" (not real CD1) unless there is 4 weeks between D&C and AF day 1. However she did say that once the residual bleeding from today's procedure ends she has no problem with us ttc without her help while we wait for AF.
No DTD until residual bleeding stops bc of risk of infection as bleeding means you re not healed inside.
Tigga- I'm really sorry to hear you might need a d&c. I hope you are able to avoid it if possible and the antibiotics do the trick.
Would have been nice to cycle together but a break from IVF & the stress can sometimes really do wonders and Oct will be here before you know it. I can't believe in just over 3 mths it will be Christmas.
Thanks Buliej, I totally get it now - thanks for the no DTD info...I actually didn't know. I hope with each day the heavy heart gets lighter for you...for all of us dealing with TTC loss and disappointments xxx
Dutchie - Yeah, would've been nice - but maybe you can set the pace and a BFP for me to follow - I'll be cheering for you the whole way!!!
Tigga - something else to keep in mind - you shouldn't take baths or go swimming until the bleeding has stopped - same reasons as for not DTD...this is all the most conservative approach - but I figure I have enough issues - I don't need to risk creating new ones for myself.
Have any of you come across a protocol called "Estrogen Priming" - another bellybelly girl told me she read about it on a US forum and that it sounded like it may be good for poor responders. So I've taken to google and it looks very interesting.
I did read that there are different variations of it (and I'd want the protocol best suited to me), but I did find one that I can at least make sense of as a lay person...it goes like this - I don't recognize some of the drugs as they are US drugs and would be interested in knowing their Aussie equivalents:
No BCPs Suppression as a way to take control of my cycle would be detrimental as I'm already too suppressed naturally. CD MINUS-5 After blood tests to confirm I am mid-LP, will start on estrogen patches to build up the egg quality. Will change them every 3 days. CD MINUS-4
thru
CD MINUS-2 Add daily ganirelix shots for 3 days. This quiets the ovaries and
gets the receptors ready for the FSH to come in the stimming portion. Also to keep my body from getting confused by the excess estrogen and accidentally increasing LH. CD1/AF Call RE to schedule CD2 u/s. CD2 Baseline u/s to confirm no cysts, resting follicle count. Stop ganirelix shots. Keep final estrogen patch on through trigger shot or until it falls off on its own. CD3 Start stimming with Gonal-F and Menopur injections. Recombinant Gonal-f and purified "natural" Menopur have been shown to work well in combination. The FSH in both Gonal-f and Menopur should produce more follicles while the LH in the Menopur should help mature the eggs. Stimming Will continue with u/s and b/w as the follicles develop. Probably somewhere from 6-12 days. Will add ganirelix back in when the lead follicle reaches 14mm to prevent premature ovulation. Triggering Will trigger with Ovidrel (HCG) once I have more than 3 good follicles, hoping for more than 5. Egg retrieval The usual. Fertilization The usual. Egg transfer Transfer at Day 3.
I think I am going to discuss with my FS.
Really, really curious as to whether anyone here has heard of this or knows anything about it.
Thanks heaps for all that info buliej. I definitely have heard of EPP and the A/ACP but was totally fobbed off when I brought it up with FS. I'm going to print this out and ask FS about it again.
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It's 2 weeks today since my D&C and I've had some really bad lows...last week I had a massive meltdown - just could not stop crying and feeling sad and desperate for a child - but thankfully, I am feeling stronger each day now - and with a clearer head know that I will be ok, whatever the outcome of this journey is. Give yourself time and cry when you feel like crying...it's better out than in!
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