dutchie - crap about ovulating! I wish this was much simpler, sometimes it is all just ****.

anyos - Sorry to hear that the stim didnt go well, but everything crossed that the stim that you did get is enough to help things out naturally.

wlab - I am so sorry hon. I just dont know what to say.

I had my appt on Tuesday, we are going to try one last time with Murrays sperm but they are convinced that the embryos stopped developing is because of Murrays DNA damage to his sperm, so if this round doesnt work, then we need to move clinics to Concept, where they have a sperm bank. Fun fun fun. So cycling again in November, in the mean time they have asked me to try and lose as much weight as I can, so I started boot camp last week as well as my usual PT and gym, and have lost 1.5kg this week. Am aiming for 5 by the start of next cycle.