Long Term Assisted Conception - 2009

[*Hope*]

Hi Sam
AFM - is 'as for me'.

I went searching for other abbreviations and theres a huge list of them under Abbreviations, Forum Jargons etc...I pasted some of them below. (Soory haven[t worked out how to paste a thread).

General Conversation Forum Terms

LOL - Laughing out Loud
ROFL - Rolling on Floor Laughing
PMSL - P!ssing Myself Laughing
LMAO - Laugh my a$$ off (often extended to other things!)
j/k - Just Kidding
IMHO - In My Honest Opinion
IMO - In My Opinion
IYKWIM - If You Know What I Mean
DH - Dear Husband
DD / DS - Dear Daughter or Dear Son
PMSL - ****ing Myself Laughing
MIL - Mother In Law
FIL - Father In Law
DF - Dear Fiance
DP - Dear Partner
SO - Significant Other (if you are just dating someone)
BBIAB - Be Back In A Bit
TMI - Too Much Information!
HTH - Hope this helps
ATM - At the moment
BTDT - Been there, done that

TTC Terms

TTC - Trying To Conceive
AF - Aunt Flo (Your period)
TWW - Two Week Wait
CD - Cycle Date
DPO - Days past ovulation
HPT - Home pregnancy test
OPK - Ovulation prediction kit
BFN - Big fat negative - in relation to HPT
BFP - Big fat positive - in relation to HPT
DTD - Do The Deed
POAS - Pee On A Stick
PCOS - Poly Cycstic Ovarian Syndrome
FF - Fertility Friend (charting website)
LP - Luteal Phase

IVF Terms

PGD - Preimplantation Genetic Diagnosis
ET - Embryo Transfer
FET - Frozen embryo transfer
Natural FET - Following a woman's natural cycle, but putting a frozen embryo back at the same time it would have happened in the woman's cycle
GIFT - Gamete Intra-Fallopian Transfer
ICSI - Intracytoplasmic Sperm Injection (where the scientists inject the egg with a single sperm)
ET - Embryo Transfer
Protocol - Type, amount and timing of drugs given as part of an assisted conception cycle
ART - Assisted Reproductive Technology
EPU - Egg Pickup, where the matured follies are harvested for eggs.
Beta - Blood test for pregnancy hormone HCG
Stims - Follicle stimulating hormone drugs
Follie - Follicles
BT - Blood test, or blood tracking tests
Snowbubs - Frozen embryos
FSH - Follicle Stimulating Hormones
Flare cycle - FSH drugs from start of AF for IVF
Down Reg - down regulated IVF protocol, suppression drugs prior to AF, then FSH meds from start of AF.
OPU - ovum pick up (same as epu!)
IUI - Inter Uterine Insemination
FS - Fertility Specialist
ED - Egg Donor


So now that we have all of that memorised no need to spell anything out ha ha ha

[Loula]

hey sam - just have to post before i head out the door to the farmers market!

I work in LDC - long day care and one of my mums at work is the embie boilogiest at City fertility, i remember when they had the big clinic move as i was too discussing moving my embies from Monash to Melbourne! GL with your treatment there. x

[Loula]

CD 30 today so af should not be here for another 5 - 15 days (who knows) but for the last couple of days i have had really bad af pains, going to ap on Tuesday for the first time since my MC in April/ May hoping that will help to bring her on.

ETA BB are massive and sore, and my tummy looks like im 3mths pg!, my diet has been so out of wack and i feel very bblllaaahhh

[MeredithD]

Loula - are you sure you're not pg? Sounds like you've got some symptoms!
Hoping that at least if you haven't got a miracle, that things sort themselves out soon. 2009 IS going to be the year for this thread!!
When are you doing your next cycle?
DrS told me the same thing about Melbourne FS's. Don't quite get the HUGE difference between Syndney and Melb on the whole immunology theories but luckily, my FS is one that DOES believe and happy to go along with the protocol. She has taken on some patients whose original FS wouldn't agree to using Pred and low and behold they fell pg using it with her!

Poppy- Glad you were happy with DrS - he is very good with the emails. Hopefully you won't actually need to se ehim cos you WILL be pg with the next FET. When are you doing that?

AFM - just done 4th dose of FSH and really been feeling it early this time. My ovaries are aching!
First scan and BT tomorrow at 7.45am so interested to see where we are at.

[Mummawannabe]

Hey i can't really post in here yet....give me a couple more cycles lol
I was hopeing someone could detail how to PM someone? Pretty please.....

[MsPink]

Mummawannabe - just go to their name on a post and click on it..you will then get the option to PM..

[*Hope*]

Hi Luvs
Meredith - how did you go with your scan and BT? Any news....

Loula - how you feeling....

Samandpoppy I hope you enjoy you special lunch on Tuesday. These days can be hard....its nice to spend it with other friends that were close to her too.

Smithy MsPink and Mollygirl I hope you are well.

Hi to the other girls too.

Cheers for now

Hope

[mollygirl1977]

Hope everyone is doing well (sorry I really need to spend more time in here and check on everyone's progress)

I am having an absolute BLAH day!!! FIrst of all I went to the clinic this morning to have a BT to see what more hormone levels were like. I am waiting for AF so i can start a FET but it has been 40 days since she last appeared and yesterday i had some old brown blood when i wiped but nothing came of it so i wasn't sure whether i should start the progynova or not. BT came back inconclusive. Most of the levels were baseline except for the LH which was 18 (apparently needs top be below 10 for baseline) so nurse just said to wait a few days and see if i get a proper bleed. If not then I have to start provera on thurs and then wait some more. Then my new FS rang to say that he doesn't want to try any protocols that include aspirin (which is what i wanted to try) as he believes there is no conclusive research to back it up - unless i have an autoimmune disease which no one seems to want to test me for as it is "unlikely" AAAAAHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!

I feel like i need to cry or scream or something but i am afraid if i open that flood gate i might just never stop!!! When is my body going to do what it is supposed to do. i can't even get a damn period these days.

Sorry for the rant I am just really down and need someone to let it all out to. Don't know what i would do without all of you

[*Hope*]

Ohhh Mollygirl I'm sorry that you have such a ****e day. AF sucks. She seems to come early when your not ready for her or doesn't come when you need her to.

Is the autoimmune testing something you want done? So you can then exclude it?

I dont know much about asprin protocols but it must feel frustrating that he doesn't want you to use it.

You dont need to appologise for 'ranting'. Thats what we are all here for. Let it out and hopefuly we can help you with your 'frustrations'.

Thinking of you Mollygirl.
I forgot to say that I noticed in your signature you have 4 Kings Charles spaniels - they are gorgeous natured doggies. They must keep you busy. We have two dogies and they are always under my feet...funny little things

Hope

[MeredithD]

MOlly - Oh I so get you on how frustrating our bodies can be! Mine never does what its supposed to.
I so hope you get a proper AF very soon or at least can start the provera to bring things on.
Can you push your FS more on the testing? I can totally understand wanting to try something new next cycle... it seems warranted to me. My FS was never that keen on asprin either as it has been shown to have negative effects on implantation. I had all the testing,coming up negative for all the standard immune disorders buts she did however, prescribe me clexane ( injectable anticoagulant) after my 2nd m/c and I got my DS on the next cycle.
Can you talk to your FS again and explain your concerns and desire for more testing?

Hope - thanks for asking after me.
Scan this morning showe about 30 follies but only 8-10 of those of any reasonable size. Maximum 10mm. So about on par with previous cycle except less maturing follies which is what we were aiming for ( feels strange to want less eggies!). E2 900. So happy enough so far. Will have another scan and BT on Wed and probably start antagonist after this.
Down side to today was yet another pg anouncement from a friend. Thats about 3 I think in the last few weeks. Trying very hard to put on brave face and be happy but its hard when I am truly crying out inside... "why not me, its not fair!!!".

[Loula]

Loula - are you sure you're not pg? Sounds like you've got some symptoms!

Thanks hun - but alas no, not unless ive got an immaculate conception lol

also hugs for you today, some days are hard xx

[Mummawannabe]

Ms Pink: Thanks for your help - but still dont get that option when i click on someones name!

SamandPoppy: I am a fellow Hypothyroid sufferer with Thyroid antibodies (peroxidase) of over 1000 each time i have been tested. This is the only barrier to fertility that has come up in our two year fertility struggle and i am left wondering if it has been/ is being treated thoroughly. Last appointment with gyno/obs i demanded an appointment with reproductive endo however he would not give me referral to who i wanted to see (someone that actually had the three year reproductive endo qualification on top of everything else) and instead has sent me to just a straight endo. Before i see this guy i am wanting to know as much as i can to ask as many detailed questions as possible and feel confident that my condition is being treated adequately enough so i am not wasting my time, money and emotions with AIH or IVF (which is where we are up to now.) Have you been advised that your TSH should be between 1-2 when trying to fall pregnant?

[butterfly_warrior]

Mummawannabe, just want to let you know that there's a minimum post count before the PM option becomes available. Give it time and keep posting!

BW

[*Hope*]

Meredith I am sorry ? its so hard when friends announce new bellies?.I try to be happy for them but it just seems so unfair.

Your follies size and quantity sounds similar to mine. Ahhh my ovaries just ache thinking about those little eggies hanging off.

Can I ask what clexane is used for. You said it was an anticoagulant.

Loula ? immaculate conception, now that?s a thought. That would make things easier for us all 

Mummawannabe ? I so feel your frustrations and I?m sorry to hear that your Gyno is not giving you the referral you?d like. Is there any other way of getting one? When I was after a referral to a FS I couldn?t get one from my own Gyno (who I had been under for 14 years) so I went to a new one and after a couple of appointments with him he gave me what I wanted which was a referral to MIVF. But then I had to find a new Gyno too, wasn?t going back to him because I felt he wouldn?t help me.

AFM I'm feeling quite anxious about tomorrows FS appointment. I'm keen to ask him about other options in regards to down regulating, I so dont want to spend what will feel like a month wasting my time taking the pill....but we'll see. I do trust everything he says.

[Hollybolly]

Hey Girls

Don't know how I've managed to miss the LTAC 2009 thread, but I'm here now I guess!!

There's so many new names I don't know - unfortunately I'm one if the veteran ladies in here

Will pop on later with a proper post

[Samandpoppy]

Hi Guys,
So much lovely news to read. Hi Molly Bolly, sorry you are back here, 2009 the year for you too!

Hope - I don't know what PM even means so you are one step ahead of me!

Meredith - I am Sam (dog is poppy) but I don't mind an alias!!! I might try that next time I give my name for something. I like it! Although then have to remember where have done it!

Have a lot to share after yesterday. Went to new FS Nick Lolagtis in Melb for info on Colorado protocol. Went to my FS David Wilkinson for scan for FET on Friday. Went to my np Nicole to discuss what learnt and get perspective.

will do a few separate posts, somehow I have done this as quote, derrrr

[Samandpoppy]

opps Hi Holly Bolly... not Molly Bolly!

[Samandpoppy]

I work in LDC - long day care and one of my mums at work is the embie boilogiest at City fertility, i remember when they had the big clinic move as i was too discussing moving my embies from Monash to Melbourne! GL with your treatment there. x

Loula, I moved from Melbourne to City F, as I wanted a change, its closer to home, and on recommendation of my np, who said that Dr David is very nice (yes) and good doc (yes), smart too found out he has PHD in Imunology yesterday and he can tailor more to you (not sure so far will see) as apparantly he left Melboure as he could not do waht he wanted, I understand they all have to do the same thing or get hassled at Melband monash, lots of pollitics like every other workplace. Also they have been having very good success rate esp in last year (only open 2 years I think).
Anyway anyway, I have met 2 eb's: Susan and can't remember other lady's name though don't think she is a mum. How nice to be working with all those lovely children, I bet there are a few names you'll not use due to experience!!!