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Awwwwww u girls are so huggable...thanks guys...love you all back!!
Well - just shot up with first FSH this cycle and have taken the scary Prednisone..here's to an angry, fat, fat-faced month ahead... bet you are all glad u can avoid me in real life huh..??
Never hun. x good to hear progress.:
Not at all Lulu - wishing you :goodluck: with this cycle
Sara
Hello my loverlies
Hope everyone is well today..
MsPink - I am going to be having Prog Pess for the first time this cycle, instead of crinone, do they give you side effects, like the ones you described ???
Also, pick up was yesterday (15 eggs) and I am home again from work, wobbling around like an elderly lady, with umcomfy pains etc, did you guys feel out out action after EPU's, my first was a breeze, but these last two have been quite painful, pain into your bottom, and lower abdo pains etc???
Thanks ladies
Lulu, seriously, would love to catch up sometime and meet you in RL...;) maybe next month, cause I am having a 'big-tummy' month, not for the right reason though....:
We are belly buddies again, I started my FSH on Monday so a couple of days ahead of you, you have to tell me how painful Organultran is, I am predicting that will start over the weekend if everything goes well...:hug:
WLAB, great results, I think the number of eggs picked up also affect the level of discomfort, like the more eggs, more pokings...hope you soon will recover from this. Let us know how fert report goes...I never had any side effect from either crinone or prog pessaries, I guess a little crampy that is all...hope you won't get any...
:hello: to Loula, Sara
WLB - you did great mate - what an eggs-ellent haul - am very jealous. How did fertilization go?? I hope well sweetie.
Am not surprised you are sore after 15 eggies. Some panadol should do the trick. But more pain after 2-3days - you must call your doc incase of OHSS.
Progesterone pessaries dont give me any side effects - except that I hate them. Like putting up a soft waxy candle that slowy comes out - YUK!! and 2x a day means it messes with my exercise in the morning as I have to put it in and go back to bed for 30mins. Not that I am a walking junkie - but trying to lose weight. Am going to ask for Pregnyl needles again this time methinks.
Sara & Lou - thanks guys..hope you're both doing ok.
CP - my cycle buddy... deja-vu huh. Lets hope it's all different this time. and yes..love to meet up one day.
OK.. here's what to do with the Orgal. u put in into the top of your thigh. Squeeze a chunk of fat (I have plenty to share if u need some). The get the needle and wiggle the needle as you start to put it into the skin. The actual needle is thicker then what you are used to and therefore hurts more. I swear - if u do the 'wiggle' technique (I should have it patented) it hurts soooo much less. Ask Bel - she found a huge difference.
Also - many people (incl me) get a red, very itchy circle that lasts for an hour or 2.. not an allergic reaction - just how it is. You will do great..
BDT - how u feeling hun?
Sam - are u ok - haven't seen u in a while..
Hi CP,
Don't worry too much about the Orgalutran, found it was similar to the SIVF needles for Lucrin - only thing to remember is that there are airbubbles in it - DO NOT worry about them - when I did it for the first time I tried to get them out and lost about half a dosage doing this.
While all was fine in the end I later heard from another girls the same had happened to her, the nurse said not to worry about the airbubbles and to just put it in.
Lulu :goodluck: with your cycle
BDT: Keeping fingers crossed for your BT on Sunday
Loula: Hope you're well.
WTH: Hi hun, just replied to you in the other thread - wishing lots of luck for ET, hopefully you get a few frosties.
Awaiting AF early next week, please keep fingers crossed for me that FSH is better this time.
Sara
Thanks Lulu and Sara for sharing the peals of wisdom...:D Will let you know how I go...about the mean-testing safety net, I start to feel the pressure like have to succeed this cycle, gee,like we all need that pressure on top of everything else! :rolleyes: I start to get a bit angry of they even think of discussing this on the table....crap!
I don't really belong in this thread, but I am just popping in to say hello to you all and wish you the very best with your cycles and I just pray that a BFP for you all is just around the corner!
BDT- your feelings seem so normal to me!! big hugs
Lovely Possums...you are welcome to be here anytime...
How are you doing sweetie??
Hi All you loverlies
Ms Pink and Loula - sending you my best fairy dust, know the feeling.
WLB - great you got a good haul. Good luck. If you still having symptoms, ring nurses as you may have a little OHSS.
Everyone else - keep up the good work, best of luck to you all.
Afm - am waiting to ovulate to have FET. Cycle a bit late due to OHSS last time. Have just taken my self back to Landmark course to get some strength for myself around doing this next FET and also around making a choice to stop if need be. Working so far! Feeling pretty good.
Sam - so glad you're doing better and happy you're going to soon do an FET - all the best hun.
WLB - where u at woman?? How did fertilization go?? How are you feeling?? When is transfer?? I need all these questions answered and more....
Hi everyone,
Well I did promise to come back in with some positivity, I would have so loved to have had a BFP, but not meant to be. I am 12dpo and POAS are still BFN, AF is due tomorrow, I have an appointment to see FS on Monday at 2pm to go, hopefully, right into a flare cycle. This will be my first I have only done down reg. Will let you know what the protocol is as she mentioned something about hcg during the stimming phase.
Lulu, hope you are going ok with the Prednisone, I have been taking it too, but so far have not noticed any side effects, though at the moment am only on 12mg a day. Am praying with everything I have that this is your cycle.
Samandpoppy, glad to hear you are in a positive frame of mind, crossing everything for your FET, hope you can O soon.
Possums, thinking of you.
CP, best of luck for this cycle, I will be interested to hear how you go, I think FS will be putting me on something similar this cycle. I hope that this makes all the diffence for you.
Sara, praying your FSH level looks good next week. Hope AF arrives soon.
WLAB, hope your cramping subsides, as I mentioned in another post, I always have plenty of cramping and pitching, for me it can only attributed to the prog (as no BFP yet). Wishing you all the best for this cycle.
Loula, hi, hope you are going well, thinking of you. Big hugs.
Mollygirl, I know you are not checking in much, just wanted to say I am thinking of you, glad you are looking forward, and would love to catch up for coffee whenever you are free.
Hi to everyone else. Will drop back in on Monday and let you know how I go with FS, sort of already getting excited amidst the let down, if this makes sense. Hugs to all.
BDT - I am very sorry sweetie. It certainly doesn't get easier does it. So glad you're moving forward straight away - it makes coping easier.
You know your own body.. so I am not going to give you any false hope (because that's what kills me..) but will tell u that a friend of mine got only BFN's with POAS and BFP with BT. Me - well I still tend to believe my POAS as it hasnt let me down yet..and did tell me the one time I was PG - but honey, it does happen.
I am on 10mg of the Prednisone and go up to 20 after EPU. I don't know if it's my imagination or not but am sure my face is already starting to look fatter (after 3 days). I hope it's my mind - because right now..it's something I really don't need. The self-esteem aint that high as it is..
You're moving forward is great. Don't be hard on yourself getting sad either - it's soooo normal on this horrible merri-go-round.
Take care lovely..
well if dh agrees to do another IVF, one day says yes next said no ?!
we will have to move over to this thread because we have been doing IVF for a year now.
this is sad
but i suppose i have to except it.
good luck to everyone else.
Ahhh JBM - I don't think any of us really like being here honey..
The good part is you have a great bunch of chickies who are full of knowledge and empathy ready to share..
Hope DH gives you the go-ahead..
Just wanted to pop in and say hello to some of my dear friends in here. I have been a bit self absorbed in my own rollercoaster journey but still thinking of you all and praying to see this thread empty very soon
CP - didn't realise you had started a cycle. I have everything crossed for you darl
Lulu - A special hello to you. I don't know how you keep up your cheery posts despite what you are going through. I really, really, really want to see you out of here ( for the right reasons)
As for the pred, I have been on it for almost 10weeks now at 20mg and can't say I have noticed a single side effect ( althougb hard to be sure when you are on so many drugs with IVF)
I have actually lost a fair bit of weight ( stress and illness I think) so defnitely no moon face here.
Hi, I am new to the forum but have been reading along for ages. I am heartbroken after a missed miscarriage and D&C 2 weeks ago, and on Friday our IVF doc told us that he wanted us to wait 2 full cycles before starting again. (We had no frosties after the 1st cycle) This was not the news I wanted to hear, I wanted to jump back in again straight away.
Anyway after reading through this thread, I am astonished at the grace and strength that you all show during this TTC journey, you are amazing women, giving love and support to others while you keep the faith yourselves. I hope you all realise how inspirational you are.
Andy - hello and welcome. I am so sorry for your loss. I never really understood exactly how devastating a miscarriage was till I sadly went thru it myself. What I did learn is that everyone is different. Please give yourself sometime to grieve. We all handle it in our own way and some longer then others. You certainly don't forget.. but time makes it easier to deal with.
With regards to your FS making you wait 2 cycles..well sometimes it depends on the uterus size etc. He wants your body to recover and get back to normal. It has worked hard. As I was over 10 weeks along, I had to wait 3 mths because my uterus was already so expanded.
Take care of yourself and know that we are here whenever you need to talk or vent..
Thanks so much MsPink. I have booked myself in to see the grief counsellor next week, just to have someone objective to talk to.
Hi everyone,
Andy, I am so sorry :hug:, I can't even begin to imagine, after the heartbreak of TTC, and now this. I hope you can take the time to grieve and when the time is right start again with renewed hope.
Lulu, thinking of you too, you have had such a tough journey, I hope that the light is at the end of the tunnel for this cycle.
Meredith, thanks for dropping in, I have been following along with your posts also, my heart is breaking for you and hope you can come to some peace of mind.
JBM, so glad DH is coming around. I have read your blog, and been thinking about your situation, if I read correctly you have had just the one EPU? Is this right? I am hoping just one more ET from embies of a new EPU will make the difference.
Sara, hi, hope AF arrives soon and hope your FSH level is where you want it to be. Praying for you.
Loula, hi I hope you are well. Thanks for your kind words, I feel the same way, it is sometimes so hard and scary to hope for fear of disappointment, but I can?t do anything else. So straight back on the horse. Thinking of you.
CP, sorry to hear you aren't feeling so great, I too am scared and praying that this new cycle will be ok, make the difference, give me better quality embies, bring me my longed for BFP. I posted in another thread that my FS was aiming for less eggs, it sounds like you may have the same number as previous cycles, but my FS also says that the protocol should have a better impact on quality, so there is some hope there. Can you guess that I think my FS is pretty good, (my FS this, my FS that) I hope my faith is justified? But no seriously, this could make all the difference. I see you are posting in the PGD thread, are you doing PGD this cycle? Praying for you.
WLAB, sending you all the sticky vibes in the world for your TWW, I hope this is the one, and the biggest congrats for your frostie. Let's hope this will be baby number 2 for you.
Possums, hi to you, I see O is coming soon, best of luck with DTD naturally.
Samandpoppy, BOL for you FET this month.
Mollygirl, looking forward to Saturday, will call you after my scan. Big hugs to you.
AFM, today I have started my first antagonist cycle and am so excited, I am on 75 FSH, I have a scan on Sat, the next Mon and Wed, and if all goes to plan EPU on Friday, I am amazed by how short it is, am loving not having to do the pill and Syneral, but a little scardie about the orgalutran injections. I am still on the prednisone, FS is happy for me to continue this, so am taking quarter tabs (about 6mg) until trigger, the full tabs, 25mg for 5 days, then back to half tabs from there. I have stopped the Clexane injections from the last FET cycle, and won't start these again until day after EPU. Am still on low dose aspirin for the next few days, but will stop for 7 days before EPU, and have now been on mega folate and B6 and B12 for three weeks. Surely with everything I am taking, something has got to give. After this, I don't know of what else to add to the mix. I am hoping and praying.
Hugs to everyone. xx
Hey all - lurking a bit, sorry but rooting for you all, so to speak!
welcome andy.
BabyDT - goodluck. Orgalutran (orangutan) no big deal, just like any other preprepared injection. Bit bigger needle than FSH, but no problem.
AFM - waiting to Ovulate. up to D22, and another scan tomorrow. cycle out due to OHSS. should have got onto Chastree sooner as always regulates my cycle. Bugger! anyway will see.
Okay girls I am in as well, starting antagonist cycle tomorrow, my FSH was 15.7 so practicing deep breathing at the moment, will see if i get past the first BT/Ultrasound.
Sending :bluedust: to all of you.
Sara
BDT: good luck for fri EPU.
yes i have only had one EPU, got 11 eggs, 7 fertilised with ICSI, 3 not mature enough. they said good job, all good for Freeze.only one didn't survive thaw, maybe new embies would be a good idea, thanks for that. xx
mspink: thanks for the welcome.
meredith: good luck to you
andy: good to take some time, i had 3 FET in a row and i was so emotionally drained at the end of it, maybe some time will be good for you. sending you some good luck vibes for next time.
sam&poppy: bummer OHSS, hope you feel better soon.
Sara: goodluck to you. BTW, what is antagonist cycle? i have only ever done full IVF/ ICSI and have heard others talk of this but do not know what it is, maybe i being a busy body ?
anyway good luck with it.
AFM: well i don't feel as bad about being LTTC for 12 months now, since saw FS anyway. who knows what we're really doing anymore,
another IVF
donor sperm
donor embies ( someone has offered who has some on ice)
inter-country adoption ( DH wants, but totally cannot afford)
i do not know what is best. i am just trying to get on with some sort of normal life for a little while.
Hello ladies
After being absent from BB for a little while, i have decided to jump back into these wonderful threads!
After our most recent failed cycle (FET in Feb '09) DH and i decided it was time for a change in FS and clinics and are now with Dr Bowman at SIVF. So far, we are very impressed with the clinic and with Dr Bowman himself. He was wonderful at our appointment, very informative and professional as well as down to earth and friendly.
Dr Bowman suggested that we try an antagonist cycle as all my other cycles have been the long down reg cycles. Seeing as all my tests have come back fine in regards to immunology etc. the problem seems to be with the quality of my eggs due to the big numbers i tend to produce so he believes that the key is to get a smaller number but better quality eggs which by doing the antagonist cycle he hopes to achieve. So now i am on provera to bring on AF and then i get to start jabbing..Yiipppeee!
I look forward to getting to know all you ladies and following your journeys.
Hi Paula,
Glad to hear you are happy with Dr Bowman, I have heard good things about him, and hope that a new FS will make all the difference for you.
I too have just started my first antagonist cycle, there is a thread in this section talking about Antagonist Vs Long Protocol. Though I have not responded as quick as I had hoped, FS was planning for 9 days of injections, then trigger and EPU on day 11 (or CD12), but I have quite a few follies (about 10) that were too small and only three that were coming along. I was on FSH75 but have upped it to 100FSH (which seems to be my magic number). I love this type of cycle though, given it seems so short, and with no pill or Syneral, however I had to start Orgalutran on day 5 of injections because I had a 13mm follie. So with the extra days of stims it means I will be on Orgalutran for over a week, at $80 an injection it is very expensive. I hope it will all be worth it.
Hope AF arrives soon and GL with your jabbing, looking forward to hearing how it goes for you.
Hi Paula
Welcome back although I am sorry that you have had to come back to this thread and not a pregnancy thread. There are quite a few of us in here that have had long journeys and I am feeling that it is our time to experience some success. I think that the next wave of BFP's really deserve to go to some of us LTACers.
So fingers crossed for your upcoming antagonist cycle. You won't be too far behind Babydreamtime, and I will be having another FET in May!!!
Baby Dreatime best of luck with this cycle. I too am glad its going to be a shorter cycle plus i hated Synarel with a passion so i am glad that i dont have to go through that again. As for the Orgalutron, i nearly fell over when i found out the price. Boy those injections are very expensive when you consider all the other costs involved with the whole IVF procedure. Never mind, it will all be worth it!
Thanks Mollygirl. I definately agree, all the ladies in this LTAC thread deserve to move onto the pregnancy thread very soon! Lead the way Baby Dreamtime :D
Still on provera, take my last tablet on Saturday then wait for AF. Cant wait, cant wait!
Hi everyone,
Paula, GL, hope AF arrives soon.
Mollygirl, yay for your FET in May, I hope the prednisone makes all the difference.
JBM, hi to you, congrats on the great results on your test.
Sara, I hope you are tracking well with your cycle, grow follies grow.
Samandpoppy, hi to you too.
AFM, I am endlessly frustrated, after having such high hopes for this cycle, my FS has cancelled and converted to IUI as I only have 3 dominate follies and lots of little ones. So it seems that the FSH dose should be the same, regardless of doing a down reg or antagonist cycle. I wish I knew this first. I am sick of this trial and error and hate that my body won't get it right. I have no real hope for an IUI and am only doing it now so as to not waste the cycle altogether, along the with the cost of the Orgalutran. I only have the faintest glimmer of hope having never done IUI before, but am I just kidding myself?
It just seems like one blow after another and I am getting now where. :wall::wall::wall:
Hi to everyone else.
;) just wanted to wish all you girl all the best,i have every thing crossed for you all.
im hopeing to be back in may for my fet i think at the moment $$$ are just frustrating me cause there is none :lol:,but by may im sure all will be good :dance:
BabyDreamtime - I am so sorry, I can't believe that yet again you are hit with more disappointment. I know that there is still every chance the IUI could work but I know how frustrated you would be feeling right now. I will keep praying for that miracle for you:pray:
Paula - hope that Provera does its thing and that you don't have to wait too long for AF - sometimes it has taken me 12 days after taking the last tablet before i get AF
Smithy - so glad you have made the decision to move forward with your FET. I will also be doing FET in May so maybe we will be in the TWW at the same time. You will have to keep me posted with your dates.
Samandpoppy, JBM, CP, Sara, MSPink, Meredith - a big :hello: to you all and hope that you are all doing well.
AFM - taking things pretty easy at the moment. I am day 29 today and just waiting for AF so that I can start FET, however I really don't have a cycle and will probably wait another week or so then start Provera and get the ball rolling. I have 2 frosty's left and i really really hope they both survive the thaw as i really want to transfer 2 again.
Big hugs :hug: BDT, we will just have to keep telling ourselves 'it will happen'....it will hun....you know where to find me if you need me...:)
Hi to everyone else, lying really low atm...just feel drained of all these cycle after cycle...need a :grouphug:
CP: sending you a BIG HUG !. i think this break is doing me good but i know how you feel about being drained. x
BDT - I am so sorry sweetie. I had a cancelled cycle early on, one of my first. It was so sad knowing that I had gone thru all the emotional stuff, pumped my body full of hormones, only to be told - no sorry, IUI for you. So I really know how you feel. In all honesty, at age 33... I truly don't believe an IUI is a total waste of time at all - really truly. OK - at my ripe old age - yes..but there is still hope for you. Hang in there...
Paula - :hello: honey...Not glad to see you in here...but lovely to see you..Very much hoping the new clinic and FS will see you having a happy outcome very soon...
Andy - hope you're doing ok.. we are here anytime you need us..
Loula - hi gorgeous if you're lurking....
Sam - nice to see you. Hope you're feeling 100% back to normal..
Sara - How are the needles going? I hope you're cooking along nicely..
Molly - glad you're another one who will have something cooking in about 2 weeks..
CP - thanks for looking out for me honey.. We been hanging in there together for too long hun?? Big hug to you for just being so lovely... :hug:
JBM - I think a break from this mental merry-go-round is good for all of us. We all need to give the body and mind a break. I hope it does you the world of good..
Smithy - you are so lovely always popping in here. I can't wait for you to get the ball rolling again....
Meredith - where ever you lurk - I know you are getting on there in weeks and am SO SO happy for you.. Your time has come...
AFM - well..what can I say. Kept pretty quiet during my cycle as I knew I wasn't doing very well. My estrogen did not rise well so I knew EPU if I got there, would probably be a fizzer. Wednesday EPU: 4 eggs, 3 mature only 2 fertilised. As I have 2 put back, had them done already - on day 2. I know the clinic figured that they may as well give me something to stick in!!! Good or bad - who's to know. So had A/C before and after this morning. Am really truly not holding out hope at all - sadly... Let's say, yesterday was not a good day for me.. Today is better.
Anyway - have a great weekend lovelies...
Sorry, double posted. Dont know how to delete this.
Baby Dreamtime its so important that we all try and stay positive. I know its much easier said than done but we have to all try. There is definately a chance that IUI can work so you just never know!
Smithy woohoo on having FET in May. Hope April goes quick for you and i look forward to following your journey.
Mollygirl not having a cycle is so annoying but thankfully Provera comes to the rescue. I generally get AF within 5-6 days so hopefully this time will be the same so i can get the ball rolling. I am so excited to be starting with a new clinic. Cant wait to see how they do things etc.
Cuddlepie, awww i dont like seeing people upset. Im definitely in the big :grouphug:
Lulu glad to hear today is a better day. Hang in there and as i said above, positive attitude all the way :hug:
Well all i can say is im excited because It's Friday! :dance::dance::dance:
Have a wonderful weekend ladies!
Hi Paula, glad to see you are back and getting ready to go again.
I have everything crossed for you and your DH.
Glad to hear that you are happy with your new FS and have every faith that the new protocol will be the ticket for you as it was for me.
The everyone else in here best of luck to you all in your cycles....you are all one day closer to your BFP!!
Ladies, please forgive me i really have been AWOL of late and i want you to know that i do pop in to check up on you bit of late haven’t had the time or energy to put together a post, as you know we are not TTC at the moment, although i have continued with my ap appointments weekly, which has been lovely and the lady i go to is the best truly!
JBM – I hope you are doing ok and that DH has discussed how he is feeling about the treatment other than a mixed decision about whether to go again or not. I hope you have been able to work something out?
Meredith – so nice to hear from you! Taking time to concentrate your energy on you and your growing belly is not being self absorbed. You have still had a lot on and I can say I don’t blame you for spending some time dealing with that.
Andy – sorry I don’t think I have even welcomed you to this thread, sorry you find yourself here. I understand the urge to start TTC straight away but think your FS has given you some good advice, you have been through a lot and to start all the stim drugs again so soon will put stress on your body, I know women who have conceived naturally quickly after a loss, but they have not need the added support of toxins from all the drugs we have to take! I myself had to wait 7 months before I could start TTC again as I waited for surgery, it felt like forever then when I was ready to start the clinic closed due to Christmas! Waiting sucks. Hope to see you posting again soon.
MsP my friend! Long time no speak, I read the other day that you are now in your TWW!! Woohoo, I’m hoping the pred will do the trick for you, it can be an amazing dug in the hope of TTC in my opinion, lets hops it does wonders and gives you healthy twinnies!
S&P – you must been soon in your TTW to! Hope the scan went well.
Sara – you are cycling too! There is a lot happening in here at the moment.
Paula ! welcome back hun, jumping in is what it feels like sometimes and not know how you are going to land!
Molly! Cycle buddie! (Well last time at least) I think we are also on the same cycle day! Lets hope we get af together and can cycle again together. I know I am desperate to get going again.
BDT – I know how frustrating life can be during cycles! Why oh why does everything seem to come at once and right in the middle of a cycle? Some cycles are trial and error and that sucks too! Why can’t our bodies do what the book says? Can I ask why you have never done IUI if your tubes are OK? (I’m guessing your tubes are OK or they would not convert?).
CP – you can have a great big hug from me hun anytime!
Hi to all!
hi lovely ladies,
it must be that time of the year were there's a natural lull in things. i can't even see a tww folder have i missed something???
i've been off the planet for a couple of months, after our BFN for the FET in jan. But since then we've done another stim cycle, got 3 frosties with one of those transferred last saturday. i have my BT this Monday.
haven't gone nuts but have tried not to obsess this time ie forum punching every day for hours!!! and it has helped. the week has flown by. :dance: the ignore all symptoms mantra actually worked girls!!
question: has anyone else felt liek they were getting their period and were in fact preg?? i'm in a very stroppy mood, uncoordinated and irritated - all usually signs of AF coming on??? I have no feeling either way with this transfer so willjust see what monday brings.
hi to JBM, mollygirl, Loula, cuddlepie, mspink, BDT, Smithy - i'm sad to see you are still here as well. Hi to andy, nicole S and paula.
i'm still trying to catch up on where everyone is at.
:pray::pray::pray: prayers for all. oxox
just a quick post to wish grub17 all the very best for your BT today!