Panda - one thing I have found in all this is that most places are reluctant to tell you anything and very few of them do anything without persistant pressure from you. Its frustrating and SO wrong of them - especially when we pay the money we do!
My suggestion would be possibly have a look on the net to see if you can find someone in Aus who specialises in the exact problem you have (is it low progesterone?) and contact them - even if they are not nearby they may know someone who is and may be able to suggest to you what the best next steps are... I found that when you tell a doc that you are considering going elsewhere suddenly they start to show an interest - funny that.
Good luck with it and I hope you find some answers...
This is an old thread but as a current user of Pregnyl, I thought I'd add my comments. Pregnyl is an artificial HcG (pregnancy hormone) that is used in fertility treatment to ripen an egg. Another similar drug is Ovidrel. Patients of IVF Australia are probably familiar with using Ovidrel as the trigger injection during the stimulated cycle.
I'm currently doing an IUI process, and as I registered low counts of both eostrogen and progesterone in my first cycle, my medical team decided I needed support during the luteal phase this time. So on my IUI day I also had a lovely Pregnyl shot in the backside, and have had to go for a top up shot three times a week over the past two weeks.
The problem with Pregnyl is that if you do a pregnancy test, you're likely to get a positive result whether you really are pregnant or not. They look at the levels of HcG, and today I was told, if it's over 400, then it's probably a genuine pregnancy. What ever you do, do not pee on a stick!
As for symptoms or side effects on Pregnyl, I looked up the manufacturers product notes, and they said a swollen face, lips and tongue were common! I haven't had any of these. I have had nausea, a dry tongue, a hideous taste in my mouth, tiredness, sore boobs, cramping uterus etc. My team say this could be what we're hoping for - but we have a long way to go before we can start celebrating.
I think Ltl Panda talked about Pregnyl being used for follicle stimulation - on both IVF and IUI I was given Puregon for this which is an artifical form of follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) - not Pregnyl. So check your protocol - you might have your drugs mixed up (in your mind).
On how much information your doctors and nurses will give you, I will say this: they know how desperate people on fertility treatment are for any glimmer of hope. And there are legal implications fo providing misleading or deceptive information, so they rarely tell you anything that could be open to misinterpretation. My experience is medical staff dealing with infertility have got very good poker faces, which can come across as appalling bedside manner. Our IVF doctor was so stiff, we never failed to leave his office in tears.
One thing I have learned lately is to watch your progesterone scores. They usually check this on Day 21 (or the equivalent) during your cycle. The range for gestational progesterone is 37 - 205. So if you get a good score, it's a good sign!
Well, that's about all I have to say - good luck!
Sept 1, 2008 - Further to the above, it's also worth noting that if you've been using Pregnyl as luteal support and your pregnancy doesn't make it over the line, your period will be very late. Very late. It's a bit distressing when you know full well you're not pregnant - easy to see how folks going au natural could think they were preggers and then miscarrying as a result. We're pleased we had the added insight of many monitoring tests as we knew exactly when our embryo failed. :-( Apart from a battered arm and vein, we're okay about it.
Last edited by OriginalP; September 1st, 2008 at 09:17 AM.
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Thanks for sharing your experiences with pregnyl and IVF/IUI. You are right, pregnyl can give false positives if a HPT is used too early before the pregnyl has left your system.
My FS also told me they used to get the chemical for triggering ovulation from the urine of menopausal nuns before they invented a synthetic trigger such as pregnyl!
Wishing you well with your current IUI cycles. If you would like to join in the general support threads for LTTTC/AC or IUI you are very welcome.
I am new to this and wish to share my experience with you all. Normally my cycles are very long and therfore doctor put me on Primoulet to induce my periods.
After starting the periods she decided me to have Puregon 75 IUs for 12 days. When it was the 12 th day of the cycle i went for the scan and found only one egg being developed but it was looking good. Then the same day she asked me to have Pregnyl 5000 iu and to have sex for next 3 days.
after that i was given the same in 1500 iu each on the 17th and 21st dates of my cycle( she called it day 4 and day 8). i did a preg tests from day 26 to 28( 3days) and all were positive. And i noticed few brown spottings on my undies for last 2 days.
Today i did the blood test and waiting for the results. i do not experience any symptoms other than occassional dizz and tender nipples!
Am I pregnant or not? can anybody tell me how long Pregnyl does take to dissapear from a system??
this is my cycle
day 1 is 7 Aug,
Day 3 to 11 : Puregon 75 IU ,
day 12 is 18 Aug : Pregnyl 5000IU
Day 12 to 14 : had sex
Day 17 is 23 Aug: Pregnyl 1500IU
Day 21 is 27 Aug : Pregnyl 1500IU
Day 26 to 28: positive results on Crystal Clear
Day 28: few brown spottings
Day 29 is 4 Sep: blood test
MEDHA - keepign my figners crossed for you today - please come abck with an updated
I am too on luteual suppurt Pregnyl support on the moment and I keep on getting the positives and all the pregnancy symptoms I can get. i was told, however, not to get my hopes up as this is normal with Pregnyl.
I've got my test on next Thursday and I'm jsut goign crazy not knwing whether my positives are true
thx for your reply. i just got the results and it's positive. thank god i am PG. i will keep my fingers crossed for u and wish u all the best of luck. pls let me know what's going on. may god be with u all the time!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, that's such great news!
You must be so relieved! for a happy and Uneventful pregnancy for the next 8 months so far
Thank you for your wonderful words
I will definitely let you know how I go next week
xoxoxo
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