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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Sep 2009
    314

    Anyone had success when diagnosed with NK Cells?

    Hi girls just wondering if anyone has had success with implantation and pregnancy after being diagnosed with NK Cells.
    I have just had another transfer and BFN
    I was diagnosed at beginning of feb with NK Cells i think in the 75th percentile which i think is quite high i actually have to call Dr Sacks to chat about results again next week.
    I am hoping to hear some positive stories as right now i am starting to feel like i am fighting a uphill battle.
    I was put on 30mg prednisone, 40mg clexane and 1 x cardiprin for treatment.
    I am wondering how long it takes for the treatment to actually work and should i be on the prednisone all the time now untill we try again in 6 weeks?
    Anyone used IVIG for treatment?
    Would love to hear feedback.

  2. #2
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Nov 2005
    Langwarrin. Victoria
    1,654

    I had ridiculously high levels of NK cells and now have aone year old playing in the next room.......so yes it can happen. I was on the same protocol as you prescribed by Dr Sacks but implemented by my FS here in Melbourne. I actually stayed on the prednisone between cycles at the level of 10mg after reading some research by Alan Beers and it was our second cycle that I fell and stayed pregnant. The book "Is my body baby friendly" by Dr. Alan Beers might be worth a read for you.
    As for IVIG treatment I very much doubt you will be able to get approval to use it in this country as IVIG is a very very scarce and expensive treatment and you have togo before a panel to get approval for use...IVF is not an IVIG approved criteria in this country.

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Jan 2010
    61

    Blossom

    Yes, yes, yes. After years of infertility, failed IVF attempts, failed surrogacy attempts we found Dr Sacks. My uterine levels were fine but blood NK cells were elevated. I think 17% from memory. I asked Dr Sacks to be brutally honest about how many attempts it may take and he said 3. He was spot on. I was increased to 30mg pred and 40mg clexane and on our third go with him we got pregnant. I am typing this with my little girl Matilda on my shoulder. She was only born a few days ago and we are eternally grateful to Dr Sacks. Go for it and believe it will happen - he knows his stuff.

    Good luck can't wait to hear some good news from you soon.

    Trea (floating on cloud 9)

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Aug 2011
    5

    Hello everyone,

    I am new at this website, so hopefully this is the right way to post and comunicate ! Although I have a healthy daughter and had no problem at all at her pregnancy, when trying to a second child I have experienced several miscarriages I have had 6 pregnancy losses in the past year and a half and it have been really painful. Over that time, I have tried clexane 40 mg, aspirin ( cartia ), progesterone and even steroids and nothing worked. I was also diagnosed with high NK cells by Dr Sacks, but I am really concerned because talking to a friend from Brazil who have had 10 miscarriages, she could only carry to term after taking ivig ( immunoglobulin ) and the vaccines that Dt Alan Beer also applies. I did took these vaccines in Brazil, but kept loosing after that and they already expired ( they only last for 6 months ). So does any of you knows if it is possible to be treated with the ivig here in Sydney ? How about the immune therapy with the husband's leucocits ? Dr Sack's advise was to take the steroids ( 20 mg ) but because we are trying naturally, I can only take after I have a positive result, and by than it is already too late, since my bhcg levels are already coming down. Does any of you had success with the steroids ? When did you start taking it ? I am so desperate since I can't see a way out for my case right now... Thanks a lot !!!

  5. #5
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Nov 2005
    Langwarrin. Victoria
    1,654

    My advice is to speak to Gavin about staying on a small dose of prednisone between cycles say 5 mg and then upping it on a positive pregnancy test...this is what we did.....you don't want to do it long term but for a few months should be okay...this is what we did to conceive our little one. there is a doc in Melbourne who uses not IVIG but intralipids therapy that may interest you as well...his name is Nick Lolatgis.

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Aug 2011
    5

    Thank you so much for answering me Melbel. So did you finally carried to term only after taking prednisone ? What dosage were you at ? Do you remember what result you got for NK cells test ? Just wondering how bad mine is ( 16,9% ). I just can't understand why isn't the ivig used here in australia, since it is successfully used in so many other countries... Do you know about the lymphocyte immune therapy ? Is that available here ? Thanks a lot to all !