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Thread: CLOMID, for the first time - response pls, pls.

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    Default CLOMID, for the first time - response pls, pls.

    Hi Ladies,

    I'll be starting Clomid next cycle but my question is. I've read that some of you have clomid babies. My question is, as silly as it sounds, you took clomid cd2-6 for example then around ovulation time you BD'd and fell pg natural without IVF.



    Does clomid induce a single egg from one fallopian tube or more than one egg?

    Thanks.
    Samantha

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    Hi Sam,
    Really sorry that i cant help you but i was wondering maybe if you can help me. How long had you been trying before the idea of clomid? Who recommended it ?A standard gp.?Do they do tests before it to reveal anything?What does it do?Why do you take it? How do you take it?

    My dp now have been trying for 5 months,we both have children from previous partners but cant seem to fall now. Just trying to c what our options are. If you can help;with those questions it would be immensely appreciated.

    Pauline

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    Pauline,

    How long had you been trying before the idea of clomid?
    We had been trying for 12 months for a baby plus I had painful sex for the past 2yrs periodically.

    Who recommended it ?
    I finally found a great gp who referred me to gyno last November. She (gyno) put me thru 3 weeks of blood tests gyno sends u with referral which costed me nothing-medicare covered it and 1 vaginal ultrasounds which did cost me around $170. I have no private insurance. The results from my ultrasound were that I had fallopian tubes & ovaries both stuck to my bowel. So my gyno suggested I needed a laparoscopy which I had in January (out of my pocket=$2000). She mentioned that I need more surgery to separate the tubes/ovaries/womb from my bowel. I have Endometriosis.

    In March I moved interstate and I'm seeing a new gyno who especialises in Endo & IVF. He has my information/file from my previous gyno. He said I do need more surgery to take out my left ovary & fallopian tube...argh!! but we're trying to get pg first. I can only ovulate every other month as the left side is damaged so I can only ovulate on the right side. Hence the clomid - I think!!

    My gyno who I just saw yesterday for the first time gave me a presciption for Clomid which I'll be taking from cd2-7 then on cd13 I need to go in & see him for a vaginal ultrasound to see which side I'm ovulating from. From that appointment, I'm not sure whats next.

    I think thats it and I hope I havent confused u too much. If u need anything else let me know.

    If I were you I'd be seeing my gp who put me thru blood tests then referred me to a gyno & then the gyno will put u thru more tests. Its one test after another..

    Sam

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    clomid can release one or multiple eggs each month

    hth!

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    hmmm I'm a bit confused by your question. Basically clomid is used to help your brain release enough hormone for your follicles to mature an egg for your ovaries to release. Most times you would then naturally BD and hopefully get a BFP! IVF or IUI use different drugs to clomid for different reasons.

    It would appear from your second post that as you only ovulate from one ovary what your gyno is trying to do is stimulate that ovary so it definetly releases at least one egg the cycle you take the clomid. Are you going to have any monitoring when you take the clomid? I really believe everyone who takes it should be monitored by blood tests and internal ultrasounds both for your peace of mind and to prevent OHSS. Clomid doesn't work for everyone and they may have to up the dose. It didn't seem to work for me.

    I think you need to go back to your doctor and ask some more questions. From what you have described I wouldn't think you are having iVF, just ovulation induction which is a step before IVF.

    Good luck!

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    Hi Sam

    Sorry this isn't a clomid response, but a response to your endo situation... I would find it unusual that they are going to remove your left ovary and tube??? I have severe endo and it will have taken me after the 17th of May 3 operations to rid myself of it. My final op is a full bowel resection where they are removing 11 cm of my bowel instead of taking the left ovary which is conected to the bowel by the endo. I see a Dr Michael Cooper in Sydney who is the leading laprascopic endo surgeon in Australia. I know you live in Victoria, but maybe it would be worth mentioning this to your gynae about bowel resect instead of stealing your ovary???

    Also Dr Cooper will soon be appearing in a series on the RPA tv show in August on chanel 9 where he operates on a girl who has severe endo to see if she will pregnant naturally....

    Good luck

    Leisa

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    Hi Samantha I am on my 6th cycle with clomid... I think I am on it due to my age I'm a late starter at 43...fertility drops off once you get into your 30's ...
    my understanding is that clomid enhances ov, you get an increased chance of multiple birth something like 5 to 7% increase, but I am not sure if it works on one or both ovaries each cycle...
    I had a visit with my Gyno on 27/3... was supposed to have a check up after 3 months on clomid got there after 4mths... better late than never! I live on a station in WA's NW so it takes some organising to get away.
    My gyno was happy with my charts and thought everything was looking good on the ov side of things... so that was good, but we decided that he should have a bit better look at what was going on inside... so I had a Laperoscopy, Hysteroscopy and a D&C so that he could check it all out, also had a Lletz Cone Biopsy to remove a few cells from my cervix that were a little troublesome in the bleeding dept only.... this was on the 5/4 ...He discovered that I have some old inactive endo and also what is called a right rudimentary horn... basically the uterus did not develop properly... 7/8ths is normal and the ovaries are both working fine, however the right fallopian tube doesn't communicate with the main uterus.. it connects to this rudimentary horn... the left tube is fine... Dr didn't seem to think that this was the reason for my delayed conception as my cycles are good and ov is happening but I guess that given that (as I understand it) you usually ov from alternate ovary each month is would cut my chances of conception by half! He said that the 7/8 ute would support a preg no worries.. so hoping that the clomid will do the trick soon. At least I know what is happening in there now!
    Maybe you need to ask some more specific questions of your gyno!
    I know I thought of about 20 more things to ask as soon as I had walked out of the rooms(aint that always the way!) ... and then hubby had another 20 once I had spoken to him...I may give my Gyno a call this week just to ask some more!

    Hope you have a positive outcome and get a BFP soon.
    Ciao Kate

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    Default Clomid first time as well

    Hi Ya,
    Well I have started clomid for the first time this cycle I am currently in day 9 of mu cycle. I had to take clomid from day 3-7, I go for an internal ultrasound on monday to see how my folicle/s are progressing. I am going to be doing IUI so once my folicles are mature enough my gyno will give me an injection to make me ovulate and the next day I will have my husbands concentrated sperm placed high into my uterus.. We have been trying for 1 year, but I have previous history - 4 years ago I had a very large ovarian cyst removed from my right ovary and some endo and just recently 8 weeks ago I had more endo removed this time it was classed as extensive. Gyno told me now is the best time for me to get preg so we are trying the IUI first and after a few months of that if ti dose not work we will move to IVF. I didn't think I would need the clomid as I do have a reg cycle and ovulate, however with the clomid my gyno can controll the whole process so we can extact timing for the IUI.

    when I started I had a constant head ache for the whole 5 days I took the tabs, but I am feeling ok now. Beware you will get pretty hormonal.

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    hi. well i am on my second month of clomid. at the moment i on cd 13. both months i have had pretty bad headaches while taking the tablets on days 3-7. keeping my fingers crossed hoping that this will be the month.

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    Thanks Ladies for your responses, especially Leisa...I will take that up with my new gyno, as we've just moved to Tassie for a lifestyle change but if I have no luck with this gyno I'll look into seeing your gyno in Sydney.

    Another question. If we're on Clomid should we be taking Progesterone as well? Is anyone else taking both and had pg success? What test do we need to take to find out if we need Progesterone?

    Cheers

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    Hi Sam,
    I had a couple of rounds of Clomid due to very irregular -absent ovulation pattern, I did fall pg on it but have had 2 m/cs (not directly related to Clomid). This current pg we tried injectable(FSH) ovulation induction just to try something different but clomid can certainly work for many women.
    In your case, sounds like your Dr is just trying to increase the chances of you producing egg on the "good " side by overstimulating your ovaries. You may end up producing more than 1-2 eggs which can be on one or both ovaries -guess the hope is to get at least 1-2 on Right side (but no more as then they would probably cancel cycle due to risk of multiple pg).
    Some people on Clomid would just BD every second day from around day 10 as with a natural cycle with no u/s monitoring. It is good that your Dr is going to do follicle scans as certainly helps you know where you are at. He will be able to tell which ovary your follicle/s are developing and how large they are. A "mature" follicle is b/n 16-18 mm diam and should release(ovulate) within 48-72 hrs thus helping you time BDing. In some cases (you would need to ask your Dr) once the follicles are at a good size, the woman can have an injection of HCG (yes pg hormone) -also simulates the LH surge and will cause ovulation to definitely occur within 36-48hrs. Again, you can then have timed BDing or IUI.
    As for your progesterone question - Most people on clomid will have a day 21 progesteroe blood test. This is to check levels mostly to see if ovulation has actually occured. Progesterone is produced by the corpus luteum (lining of the follicle from which egg released) soon after ovulation and continues to rise over the next week. If you don't fall pg then the drop in progesterone after 14 days is what causes AF to arrive. if you do fall pg then the CL continues to produce progesterone to support the pg. Basically, If you are ovulating ok then you should not need progesterone supplements. Occaisonally, woman can have a luteal phase problem where they ovulate ok but there CL fails early and there progesterone level drops prematurely. They can benefit from extra prog. if you have had regular 28-30ish cycle then this is unlikely an issue but speak to your Dr to get all the facts for your situation. Good luck and I hope you TTC journey is short!

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    Hi Everyone, Hope it's all right to join in here. I was doing some Goggling on Clomiphene and this site came up. I couldn't stop reading!!

    I have just started taking it today and am hoping it is the answer to the prayer! Not that I have actually been trying for long but have had heaps of trouble with Endo and cysts before and the Dr seems to think I'm gonna need it!

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