Hey KitKat, a huge congrats on your BFP!!! Thats fantastic!!
After 6 years, wow you really deserve it. You guys must be over the moon
Your post is very very encouraging, so thanks for letting me know, I appreciate it
Ive had a second acupuncture session and will keep going... I have a feeling it might be helpful for me too. Fingers crossed!
My AMH was 12.2 (normal range is 14.0 - 30.0), so "possibility of abnormal ovarian reserve".
Not nearly as low as yours, but a shock none the less. But if you still managed 2 good embys, there is hope for me too!
Thanks again for the encouragement and I hope you enjoy you much deserved pregnancy
KitKat!!! I'm so slow at responding to this thread - I'm sorry! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! that is wonderful, wonderful news!!! Well done!! I hope you have a happy and healthy pg and wishing you all the very best for that day when you get to hold your bub - awww, you deserve it!
KateM - sounds like we are on the same path. How are you going? Have you had a cycle yet? I've put IVF on hold for now while I get my body working better. I'm seeing a TCM specialist and having accupuncture every week. I'm down to 50mg of the DHEA until I know more about when the cycle will start (basically when I can get my temps up nice and high and stable on my own...whether this will happen or not, I don't know, trying to stay hopeful and optimistic). Every little bit helps but as my clock is tick tick ticking away, I'm also worried about loosing time. Guess you can only trust that things will happen the way they should.
Hey Sevie! That would be so frustrating waiting for the donor...you must have the patience of a saint after all your trials! Big hugs to you - I hope it starts soon
Aw, thanks ladies! I appreciate the well wishes. All good so far -- I just pray it sticks! (And Alice, I'm so sorry to see you had an MC at 8 weeks. That must have been devastating.)
Kate, your AMH really is barely lower than normal. Definitely "borderline" at worst, esp. since AMH is such a new test that they still don't know exactly what the numbers mean. (How do you know that you are in premature menopause, by the way? Your AMH number doesn't really sound like it supports that diagnosis, although obviously I don't know any of your other symptoms or indicators.) If it helps, my doc said that he didn't start getting really worried until a patient's AMH dropped below 3 -- that's when he found that it got a lot harder to have success even with IVF. (And he was right, in my case.) So I really hope that you don't let your number throw you. You are young and doing everything you can to maximize your chances. I wish you the very best of luck!!!
XXKitKat72
PS. Sevie -- the best of luck to you dealing with your donor. That just sounds like such a difficult situation.
kitkat- I'm hoping for great success for you. slow but steady wins the race!
kate- honest, 12 is a good AMH result. My donor egg's result is 9...if you're worried, I'm even more so! but I'm not. I'm guessing we won't get amazing numbers but I hope for ok results (for over $9k!!!) I wish for great luck for you.
Alice- Be hopefully. I wish we had crystal balls that we could look into and truly know our destiny...then we'd stop stressing!!
Kitkat, thanks for your reassurance about my result, i guess it was just not what my Dr expected from a fit & healthy 27 yo. My Mum and her maternal relatives hit menopasue at 32 or just after, which is why I was sent to a FS. After looking at my test results our Dr warned us that I *may* run out of eggs within the next 6 months -2 years. He has seen so many people wait until its too late and urged us to start TTC "more aggresively"...ie IVF), especially as we hope to have a couple of children. So I am not going into menopause yet, but the FS said my tests &poor IVF response (&my family history) make it more than likely that I will have a premature menopause.
When we tried IVF earlier this year it was a big disappointment. I didn't respond to the FHS as expected. 4 eggs were fertilised but none of the embryos were as good as they should have been. We had 2 tranferred but niether took unfortunately. The other embys were not "good enough" to be be frozen, so that was very dissapointing. The FS said my eggs are like what you would expect to see from a 45 yo female and that my chances of concieving naturally are pretty low. Im a "poor responder" in their words -not mine!! LOL! But that was only our first attempt, we can always try again one day.
My Chinese "Doctor" has a completely different view point and really thinks he can help me, so Im going to give him a shot (for so much less $$ than IVF!) and see how it goes.
Im still only 28 and in my mind still have all the time and options in the world
Sevie, what stage are you at now? Your donor has obviously started her blood tests...that must be exciting. Does it still feel like its taking forever to get the ball rolling or are things coming together now?
Hope you have a very successful cycle Best of luck!
Alice, how are you finding the TCM? Are you taking the herbs too?!
Are you having regular cycles?
KateM, I'm finding it good...challenging, but good. She is much like a lot of FSs in that she knows what is good for you physically but not much of a bedside manner IYKWIM. But if she can help me, then I'll put up with her bluntness. And she is helping me. I'm on a super strict diet for digestive problems (no wheat, no dairy, no caffeine, no alcohol, no sugar, no yeast, no oranges, mushrooms, potatoes, tomatoes, no coconut cream, no vinegar/pickles/mustard/soy sauce .... you get the picture!). Unbelievably, I've been sticking to it (99.999% of the time!) for two months this week! And I'm taking herbs (different ones for beginning and second phase of the cycle) plus taking my temperature every morning. I saw her today and comparing my charts already I can see an improvement. Her belief is that until I can get my temps more regulated (I have a 28 day cycle that is pretty much like clockwork so I'm lucky there) then I won't be able to carry a pg to full term. I have fluctuations in my temp in the second half of my cycle which indicates my progesterone levels aren't strong enough so we're working on that. I was getting really frustrated with more waiting (given my age and wanting to try again after our mc) but I've just had to let that go and just keep on track with the diet and hope things improve soon enough to get going on IVF again.
How are you finding it? What herbs are you taking? How are your cycles? How are you going with the DHEA?
Alice- lordy lord, what a STRICT diet! Do you feel very well for it...or shocking?!?? what can you eat??
Kate- my sis tried Chinese medicine. Stinky stuff!...but I do think it can help sometimes. good luck, just keep a peg on your nose!
KitKat- I hope all's still smooth-sailing AND times flying.
My donor, myself and our partners have our joint counselling session next week, then we're right to go! but then my donor's going away on holiday so in won't be till August till we stim!! I'm a bit worried that the doctors playing too save and starting her FSH dose too low. 150units for a woman with an AMH result of 9????
Wow Sevie that's great that things are finally getting going. I guess they are starting her low to see how she responds but when you've been through it all before it must be so frustrating to have to go through it via your donor all over again! So hope it all goes smoothly for you and has a positive outcome.
The diet is fine once you get organised for it and we already do a lot of home cooking because frankly there aren't that many options up here so we already make our own bread (in a bread maker) we just had to find a recipe that works without yeast and wheat flour (my DH makes it for me and it's very yummy by the way!) and then I've been having soy milk, I can eat as much meat as I like, cook brown rice instead of white (just takes more time and I had to get some tips on how to make it fluffy but getting better at it), plenty of salads, dips and brown rice crackers (yah for VitaWheat for making a new cracker I can eat that doesn't cost a bomb!), eggs etc so not that hard really and incredible how quickly your tastes adjust - sugar is just so extreme in taste now that it makes me feel a bit sick if I have it (that's just not right is it?!). I do miss cake but the bread is sort of cake-ish I guess.. Funnily enough it's the no tomato and potato thing that can be tricky because they are in so many things but that's more for the fact they have naturally occurring food chemicals that can irritate your stomach and I should be able to reintroduce them soon. Sounds worse than it is and with the internet, well, there's plenty out there - just google 'anti-candida' diet or 'wheat free' etc and there is HEAPS of info! Having said that, I'm looking forward to having a glass of red wine and a nice piece of cheese again one day! And yes, I do feel well for it - have lots more energy than before so damn! it's doing me good I don't have an excuse to stop!!
Hi All,
Well Im not sure if it was the Chinese Acupuncture and the herbs, or the DHEA, or a combination of both, but we finally got our BFP
We are keeping our fingers crossed that things go smoothly. I had an ultrasound this week and everything is looking good!!!
We were going to save up to do another IVF cycle after our Wedding in October, so this is such an amazing surprise.
Hope you are all doing well.
Sevie any updates on your donor?
Alice, how are going with your super strict eating plan, is it still helping your energy levels?
Wonderful news!!! Well done!!!! How exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wishing you all the very best for a happy and healthy pg and a little bub to love and enjoy all of your own xxooo
Thanks for asking after me - I'm doing really well with the diet (my chart is normal for the first time ever!) and I'm counting the days down to my next AF when I start the OCP and get our IVF cycle underway. I'm excited but cautious - I know the diet has helped but I am almost 42 so I have to be realistic that the odds for us are still quite low. My DH has quit smoking after 20 years so I know we are throwing our all at it - I'm taking herbs and doing acupuncture every week so that's all we can do (as well as hoping and dreaming).
I haven't heard from Sevie in a while so not sure how she's going with the donor eggs but hopefully we'll hear soon. Lots of love x
Sorry for jumping in but your stories resonate with me. I'm 29, have low ovarian reserve (AMH 11.3, AFC 9, FSH 4) and my mother was 36 when she hit menopause.
I'm starting my first IVF cycle in september (down reg, double FSH dose) and am anxious about how i will respond.
I've read alot about DHEA and would like to try it, however, my FS is against it.
Its nice to know there are others in the same boat that have been successful! Congratulations Kate and Kitkat!!
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Hi Gals, thanks for the congratulations :-)
Next week we have our 12 week scan, then I will feel like I can really celebrate
Alice, I hope the IVF goes well next week, its a great sign your chart is back to normal! Good on your hubby for giving up smoking, between the both of you it sounds like you are putting all you can into this. Keep us posted on how you go, we will be thinking of you.
Welcome Night Walker, yes you have quite a similar situation. I hope your IVF goes well next month, its a bit of roller coaster ride, but its great to know you are one step closer to getting where you want to be. I wonder why your FS is agains DHEA?
I went back to my FS (having already looked into DHEA) and then before I could ask about it, he suggested it. I was a poor responder to IVF Feb this year, so I was taking it in the hope of improving my egg quality before having another cycle.
I had no side effects and am SO happy we gave it a shot. Im not sure if it was the DHEA that worked for me, or the Chinese acupuncture/medicine (or a combination of both), but something worked when we were told the chances of it happening naturally was slim.
Hopefully IVF is sucessful for you, but if you don't respond well, you could always get a second opinion about DHEA.
Good luck and please let us know how you go!
Would you believe I just got prescribed DHEA today from Dr Neil Wallman who is at John Flynne Hospital. A couple of weeks ago I found out I have a low AHM and he has prescribed it to me.
Hi Gals,
Thought I would jump on this site again as I need to make another big decision, and I find it helpful to talk about it with people in similar situations.
I had my AMH tested again and its dropped down to 3.1 (from 12.2 less than 2 yrs ago), but thankfully I have my wonderful daughter now.
My Dr says it looks like Premature Ovarian Failure, which I knew to expect with my family history.
Im curious, is there anyone out there who has fallen pregnant naturally with an AMH of 3 or less??
I would love to have another baby but don't want to do IVF again (as my Dr has recommended.)
Im so blessed to have one child, so if I can't have anymore I will be OK with that.
Once I finish breastfeeding I will start DHEA again as I think it helped us last time.
In September I found out I have a AHM of 1.2 and I am 34 so I was very shocked. Me and my husband decided to start trying staight away and guess what? We fell pregnant within less than 2 months as I am 6 weeks pregnant now. So even with such a low egg count my eggs must be good quality. So there is hope out there for you.
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I hope you have a happy and healthy pg and wishing you all the very best for that day when you get to hold your bub - awww, you deserve it!
congratulations KateM!! 
All my best wishes to you for a healthy and happy pregnancy! 
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