Thanks kbean,

unfortunately the news has been a little worse now, DH has a zero sperm count, and its hit him even harder now that it appears IVF/ICIS is no longer a possibility. He has been crying non stop and I just recieved a text message which has alarmed me.. he is saying he wants to die and should just kill himself because his life is over. He has been crying at work and his boss has tried to talk to him as he went through IVF himeslf but DH wont listen because it wasnt his bosses FI, it was his partners.. *sigh* I want to help him but I dont know what to say to that. Im not giving up until we get a biopsy, there is still a tiny chance they could find some live cells (he has atrophy due to undescended testes not being treated as a child) which they could use for ICIS. He has a small amount of blood flow so Im hoping some of his testes is still alive to allow this.

We are off to see a specialist at monash so we shoudl soon know where we are with it all.