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Welcome Super_lost_mumma_of_one. I hope you don't mind I added you to our little list, so we can keep track of where everyone is up to. If you'd prefer not to be on the list just let me know.
14 June 2012
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen! :hello:
Miss B – CD1 US 21.07.12
Super_lost_mumma_of_one – CD2?
N2L – CD8 FS App 13.06.12
Me4ever – CD7 FS App 25.06.12
Emma09 – CD7 Stim US 15.06.12
myturn - CD16 Stim Down Reg
PlanetSashet - CD23 Stim
Mrs Mac - CD53
Waiting for Transfer :)
Ree*Ree - CD16 FET Trans 18.06.12
Jane – CD13 FET Trans 20.07.12
Hanging out in the TWW (stalk them here:LTTTC Two Week Wait 2012 # 4) :2ww:
Mrs P – CD28 FET – 2dpt 1 x day 5 embryo BT 25.06.12
Got Their BFP :leap:
Joeve 05.06.12
Bee27 06.06.12
Vic261 09.06.12
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I've met my match!
Orgalutran!
Ouch, it hurts and it's itchy!
The nurse did today's dose- how will I do it myself :(
Scan today- 15 follies- small size.
Another scan on Monday.
But the FS decreased my dose of puregon..... Confused.
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Throw a freaking parade ladies, AF finally arrived, officially CD1 today. Woohoo. Now if only I could get the clinic to answer the phone so I can get this baby making body underway.
Emma, you poor thing hun, I remember the orgalutran hurting as well and drove me crazy with itching for about half an hour after the jab. Good news is that after about the 3rd or 4th jab the side effects stopped (or I got used to them) so I hope it's the same for you.
Sending lots of XOXO to you all.
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Emma, 15 follies so far is great!! Be good little follies and grow nice and big for mum :)
Yahoo Mrs Mac!!! Who would have thought one could be so happy to see AF arrive ;)
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Woo-hoo Emma on 15 follies, that is awesome as Miss B said, esp at this early stage.
Mrs Mac - finally the witch arrives! I'll bet you've been sick of checking every time you went to the loo ha ha!
Miss B - yay for Day 1 (now 2) for you too.
Ree Ree - are you all set for transfer? Someone has to come join me in the TWW
Hi everyone else!
AFM - 3dpt and not much going on today. No cramps to speak of since the ones I had yesterday. Had swimming lessons with DD this morning. I tried to take it easy but it is hard with a little one. How I am supposed to avoid picking her up all the time?? Hoping that doing things like that wouldn't actually make a difference but who knows.
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Thanks guys!
15 follies, but they were small :(
Please, please grow!
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Mrs Mac - WOOOOO HOOOO! I feel like celebrating. :birthday2:
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Freaking out!
I don't want to do tomorrows Orgalutran!
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15 June 2012
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Mrs Mac – CD1
Miss B – CD2 US 21.07.12
Super_lost_mumma_of_one – CD3?
N2L – CD9
Me4ever – CD8 FS App 25.06.12
Emma09 – CD8 Stim US 18.06.12
myturn - CD17 Stim Down Reg
PlanetSashet - CD24 Stim
Waiting for Transfer
Ree*Ree - CD17 FET Trans 18.06.12
Jane – CD14 FET Trans 20.07.12
Hanging out in the TWW (stalk them here:https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...-a-181696.html)
Mrs P – CD29 FET – 3dpt 1 x day 5 embryo BT 25.06.12
Got Their BFP
Joeve 05.06.12
Bee27 06.06.12
Vic261 09.06.12
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Emma, sorry the orgalutran is hurting. You'll get used to it :hug:
Re: the reduction in puregon dosage, it sounds as though your FS wants you to coast for a few days to give your follies a chance to grow without one or two dominant follies overtaking the others. Did they give you the sizes? Usually you won't trigger until 20mm or more.
I had an interesting FS appointment on Wednesday. Still processing it all so will post about it when I have. Having a hysteroscopy and biopsy though, testing for nk cells (even though my FS doesn't believe in them!).
Hi to everyone else :hello:
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Thanks N2L....
Oraglutran was really unpleasant and I'm nervous :(
A lot of the follies were below 10mm.
Some were slightly above- maybe 13mm?
Take your time to process :hug:
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First jab done! :happydance: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah :happydance:
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Good job miss B- puregon?
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yay Miss B :)
oh Emma, i found orgalutran itchy as well! But you get used to it! Just make sure you push out all the air... I forgot the first time and I had a big lump of air that make it even more itchy!!! Be brave lovely! It's all for a good cause!
N2L, I know you are starting to wonder whether it's all worth it, and I do hope you are feeling like there is a bit of a plan, I wish there was more we could say to help you feel better. :hug:
Mrs Mac - Yay yay yay!!! :lively:
Miss P - people will join you before you know it ;)
Super L M oO - :hello: welcome :)
Jane - great job on the list - hope you are well..
FX and goodluck to everyone else i may have missed....
AFM.... still plodding... feel a LOT better today... not sure why, I went to a funeral and worked today (got a bit done).... and ate VERY crap food for lunch and dinner... so theoretically I shouldn't feel any better.... but anyway, I will take what it is....
Sometime next week I think I start the synarel.... think I will be thankful to start something...
new week next week - back to the healthy eating plan and regular exercise, I had a week off - and extra busy with work, so... I think that makes everything harder too....
good night lovelies - I am off to my best friends 1st born's christening tomorrow.... steeling my heart for the pain the day will bring and going to focus on how absolutely beautiful he is.
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I'm on gonal-F this cycle hun, last time I did puregon. Don't stress too much about the orgalutran hun, it does hurt a little bit and it does itch, but you can do it! When I first did it in my last cycle it wasn't too bad, but then I was rushing through it and thought I was a pro (as you do) and sometimes I would insert the needle at a funny angle and it hurt even more! So take your time, think about that gorgeous bubba at the end of it all, and pinch the skin hard :)
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Glad you're feeling heaps better myturn :hug: Hopefully tomorrow won't be too hard for you hun. Will be thinking of you lovely xox
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Thanks miss B- how do other IVFers cope, without you lovely ladies?
You guys are my rocks :)
My turn- I'm glad you are slowly feeling better- bad food always makes me feel better!
One foot in front of the other :hug:
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MrsP, I'll be there soooooon! :D Can't wait to obsess with ya ;) lol
Emma 15 follies is fantastic! And its still early days, plenty of time for them to grow before collection :D My first cycle I had 10 good size follies, and from them we had 1 emby to transfer and 3 to freeze.
Myturn so good to hear that you're feeling better hun. Good luck with the christening, and your return to healthiness next week ;)
MissB welcome back to the stabbing! :dance: lol
N2L, interesting appt is good right? At least its not same old, hoping maybe a fresh new plan of attack for you? Will be keeping my eyes peeled
:hooray: Hooray MrsMac!! Finally! Are you doing a FET this cycle?
As for me, just plugging away at the ol' pessaries and tablets over here. Being a very good girl and following all the instructions to the letter. Ringing the clinic tomorrow for Monday's transfer time. Booked Monday off from work (I only work Mon, Fri & Sat) so will have a good few days off to rest and let that emby snuggle in safe and sound :crossfingers: I seem to have adjusted to the sudden surge of progesterone in my system and no longer feel the need to hurl abandoned toys across the house for no good reason :lol: I am thinking of cutting out all caffeine from the day before transfer, shouldn't be hard to do since I'm only drinking tea lately. I'm sure I can live without it for a while! And - I'm very proud of myself - I've been eating breakfast everyday! Aiming to keep that up, it can only be a good thing!
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Ree - I cut out caffiene this time. I am not a big drinker normally.
Myturn &n2l - am quietly stalking you both x
Goof luck mrs b and emma and everyone else x
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I also completely cut out caffeine the past 2 months I used to drink a lot of diet coke.
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Oooh thanks Vic and Joeve, I def will cut it out now! :D
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I wish DH was here with me. I feel so alone :(
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:hugs: Anything we can do myturn?
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:grouphug: sending virtual love myturn
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Sorry it's a tough day myturn :(
Your turn will come x
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Okay. Sitting home alone with a cup of coffee ready to post something about my appointment with the FS.
I havent exactly processed it yet, nor made any really firm decisions about where to from here, but I thought I should get it all out anyway. Excuse me if this comes out garbled or confused....
Dp and I had talked the night before. He had said he doesnt want to give up but he doesnt want to keep doing the same thing over again and get the same (negative) results. I agreed with him. So the next day i walked in there (DP couldnt take time off work) and basically said the same to my FS. I told her there were a couple of things I had researched/heard about that I wanted to run by her.
She said she understood my position but she still thought pregnancy was not beyond me and that it was still a case of coming up with that lucky embryo.
She said the main three things affecting outcome (for me) are my age, my weight (108kgs) and adenomyosis. She said
there is nothing I can do about my age or the adenomyosis, although women can and do get pregnant with it. She said my weight is an issue (we have talked about it previously) and she recommended a gastric band. She believes this will help me get pregnant.
I asked about my the quality of my eggs. She said I have flashes of brilliance. (Obviously not brilliant enough!) My last
embryos were good quality.
I asked about the pipelle biopsy during a cycle (as based on Vic's experience). She laughed and said no way during a cycle.
I asked about doing a colorado protocol. She said, it's bulls**t. NK cells are crap and make no difference. We have spoken about this before....
She said she was happy to refer me on to see Dr Nick Lolatgis at Monash IVF. She said she had referred a few patients on to him because he does things that are not usual practice (ie. NK cells work). She said she is good friends with him and he is really great.
She also said she will do a hysteroscopy and endometrial biopsy on me if I like, to test my NK cell levels. I agreed and I am booked in for July 30. She also added, 'even though it is bulls**t and pathology will note on the results that testing and treating them has absolutely no therapeutic benefit'.
I thanked her and left with my hospital admissions form and payment schedule.
I later got off the train, into my car and booked an appointment to see Dr Lolatgis on Monday 23 July.
I am 41 years old tomorrow. I am wondering if I am just wasting my time. I dont know about gastric banding. I tend not to want to do it. I know I wont lose weight without it, certainly not in the time frame i need to lose it.
So, we'll go get another opinion, spend another couple of thousand dollars on a procedure that probably has no benefit at all. And keep praying for a miracle.
eta - I forgot to say we also talked about donor eggs. She mentioned Spain as a good option. DP thought that was a lovely idea :lol:
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N2L - Sounds like a full on appointment with mixed feelings and results. Hope you and DH find a path that seems to fit and feel right for you. Still hoping that there is a way for your dreams to come true.
My turn - Know that we are all here for if you need to vent.
Emma - Hope the jabs go ok today and don't cause too much pain.
ReeRee - final count down til transfer. Apart from cutting out caffeine and alcohol are there any other major changes you plan to make in terms of diet or lifestyle in prep for or following transfers.
Hi to everyone else - hope you are well.
AFM - no longer feeling nauseous from the meds which is great. Started pessaries today. The prospect of doing them for thee next few months (if we get a BFP) is a bit mind boggliing, but of course I'd do anything to help an embie stick. Am now on the count down to transfer. Feeling excited, like I finally get to go and pick up another one of my babies and bring them home. Just hoping and praying this one decides to stick. But to be completely honest I'm already not feeling too hopeful. Maybe I'm just trying to protect myself from investing to heavily in this cycle. I don't know.
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16 June 2012
Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen! :hello:
Mrs Mac – CD2
Miss B – CD3 US 21.07.12
Super_lost_mumma_of_one – CD4?
N2L – CD10
Me4ever – CD9 FS App 25.06.12
Emma09 – CD9 Stim US 18.06.12
myturn - CD18 Stim Down Reg
PlanetSashet - CD25 Stim
Waiting for Transfer :wiggle:
Ree*Ree - CD18 FET Trans 18.06.12
Jane – CD15 FET Trans 20.07.12
Hanging out in the TWW (stalk them here: https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...-a-181696.html) :stickyvibesboy:
Mrs P – CD30 FET – 4dpt 1 x day 5 embryo BT 25.06.12
Got Their BFP :bluecheer:
Joeve 05.06.12
Bee27 06.06.12
Vic261 09.06.12
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N2L - woah hun what a lot to process in one appt. I agree that Spain sounds nice though! Hugs.
Ree ree - yep I'm waiting for you :)
Jane - transfer is coming up soon, yay for the pessaries (not!). I know what you mean about not wanting to invest too much.
AFM - no cramps or signs for the last day. Trying to fight it but already feeling so much like it hasn't worked. Just went to a 1st bday party and was asked when I was having another baby. I replied "when I'm ready to pay for it" and the person said "oh..." and I said "yeah, I don't get babies for free". It probably came across as rude but this person knew we'd done IVF (but probably just forgot as she's pretty self consumed) and I really think its rude to ask people about it, regardless of whether they did IVF or not.
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ReeRee so excited for your transfer tomorrow and it works out perfectly so that you can have a few days off. I have cut out caffeine this cycle although i decided to cut it out from CD1, i don't drink excessive amounts of caffeine but love a morning coffee and a nice tea before bed so for me i figured all of nothing was better. Not not sure that it makes any difference but after last cycle failing i figure cutting it out cant hurt, and after hearing that Vic and Joeve cut it out also i am very determined to stick to the no caffeine this time. FX it works wonders for both of us and yep its a FET for me this cycle.
MyTurn I hope you are doing OK hun, so sorry to hear your having a tough day :hug:. Like most of the ladies here I wish there was more i could do or say to make it better.
N2L dont give up hope yet. I think a new FS is a great idea because 41 is not in anyway beyond hope and sometimes a fresh look on things can make all the difference, doing the same old thing over and over again is obviously not working. Im excited for you and I hope the new FS has something new for you to try.
Jane not long till transfer now and i know what you mean about the pessaries, before starting IVF i had the biggest fear of Needles but now i am more annoyed about the pessaries then i am the injections, its funny but i actually look forward to the injections now because i feel like we are doing something.
Mrs P hope you not too lonley over in the TWW, not long now and you'll have some company, I hope there are some sticky vibes over there.
Hi to Miss B, SLMOO, Me4ever, Emma, PlanetSashet and any other ladies stalking.
AFM- after almost 2 days I finally spoke with the clinic :dance: i was starting to think i would never get to speak to a nurse. Well not much to tell for now, I have to go in tomorrow to pick up the meds for my FET cycle and get all my appointment dates. I have my fingers very tightly crossed that this cycle will be much easier on my body and I have a super sticky little embryo waiting for me.
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GL for your transfer on Monday ReeRee :crossfingers: And if you want to stay caffeine free, have you tried caffeine free tea? That's what I drink :)
Myturn, sorry you're missing your DH and I hope your day got better hun :hug:
n2l, wow that's a lot to digest from your FS app.! I don't know much about gastric bands, but one of my besties was a larger lady and she was always told to lose some
weight before attempting IVF. She secretly got it done a year and a half ago (I didn't even know about it!), and then against all odds she got pg naturally after losing
about 25 kg (she was round about the 110 kg mark) 3 months after the surgery. When I say against all odds, she is only 32, has only got one fellopian tube (the other one was cut out when she was 20 as she had a borderline cancerous lump on it) and the remaining tube was blocked!! The poor lil embie got stuck in the tube and she suffered an ectopic pg. But she did get pg! She swears it was the weight she lost that made her fall pg. Her hubby apparently has super swimmers, and they have been DTD with no protection for 10 years.
Jane, chin up and fingers and toes crossed for this cycle lovely :crossfingers:
Mrs P, keeping everything crossed for you hun :crossfingers:
Mrs Mac, FET cycles rock!! Hoping this one will do the trick for you :crossfingers:
Hello to everyone else!
AFM, still jabbing away :) I got a painful throat come out of no where, this is just ridiculous!!! I was only sick recently for what seemed like ages, I want to feel normal again! :(
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n2l - wow, that is a lot to process. your plan ahead sounds similar to mine atm. my FS told me that the nk cell thing is 'controversial' but she has seen some good results with it, rather than it being just plain bs! i have read up a lot about it (as im sure you have) & immune protocols and the theory behind it makes sense to me, but there is definately a lot of division between FS's about it (even within our own clinic). i have heard dr nick is the go-to-guy for this too and nearly booked an appt with him last month but my FS ended up suggesting the nk cell biopsy anyway & agreed to trying the bondi/colorado protocol. FS will do nk cell biopsy & hysteroscopy if next FET fails.
i also asked my FS about the pipelle biopsy this week, she will perform it for me if i want with next FET. again, the theory behind this makes sense to me (similar to being more fertile after d&c), but i must admit i have not researched the pipelle biopsy extensively yet. still undecided about whether to do it with this FET, but to be honest - im getting desperate here & like you, dont want to keep trying the same thing over and over hoping for a different outcome. did your FS mention why she wouldnt do it within a cycle?
i dont think its wasting your time to get a second opinion. i think sometimes FS's forget the impact consecutive failed cycles have on us physically & emotionally. we could keep trying month after month, hoping and praying for the right embryo - sounds logical, but time is ticking people... and we are the ones waiting. i think its only natural to explore other options (whats that saying - nothing ventured, nothing gained?). would your current FS work with dr nick for treatment, or would you switch clinics if your appt goes well?
it's good your FS is positive about your potential to get pregnant, and acknowledges that even though your issues present a speed-hump - women do get pregnant with these speed-humps. even it happens or not, its a possibility and therefore we are compelled to keep trying. i hope you dont mind my comments n2l, i just feel your pain atm. xx
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Hello ladies,
So far I haven't had any side effects from gonal F apart from blowing up like a balloon back in 2008. In the Jan cycle this year I had puregon, no side effects. This time I'm back on gonal F, dosage is 375. Firts jab OK, second jab was last night and this morning I feel nauseaus, slightly dizzy and light headed. Not myself at all. Oh, and slight discomfort in my belly. Is this normal? Has anyone had similar side effects on gonal F? Or is it something I ate last night? :dunno:
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Miss B I didn't have any side effects from it until about day 8 of jabbing when my tummy bloated. Maybe it was something you ate!
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miss b - are you on a higher dose than last time? might be just your body getting used to it in the first few days of jabs? could be your sore throat/previous illness coming back too? who knows with all this stuff. i have had cycles where i have felt hardly anything, and cycles where i have been bloated, sore & nauseous - but usually these symptoms were around epu time. dont remember feeling dizzy. hope you feel better soon. :)
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Thanks Joeve and Andie. I've gone up from 350 puregon to 375 gonal F (same thing I am told) so it shouldn't be that different on my body....? It's all passed now, I'm beginning to suspect my medium rare stake last night was the culprit. It was quite pink in the middle, although I have had it like this before and no probs...
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Thanks MissB :D Silly Q -does caffeine free tea still taste alright? I have decaf coffee in my Nespresso machine and it tastes fine, so if the tea tastes no different then I'll grab some! Can't help you with the Gonal-f sorry, I didn't get any side effects.
Thanks for the luck MrsMac, let's hope this caffeine-free change does us both the world of difference! Hope this cycle's drugs are kind to you
See ya tomorrow in the TWW thread MrsP, hoping some new 'symptoms' have popped up for you in the meantime :)
Thanks Jane, apart from cutting out caffeine and alcohol (I rarely have any alcohol anyway, so that's not hard) I'm just focusing on having breakfast every day, and drinking water. I had been very naughty, not eating brekky and rarely drinking water, so that's what I am concentrating on now. And feeling really really good for it too! Good to hear you're not feeling sick anymore, and yeah pessaries aren't fun but very doable, especially for the end result we all want! Not long now til transfer, good luck!!
N2l :birthday2: Happy Birthday lovely lady!!!
There's a lot of decisions to be made, I don't even your position at all :hug: I'm glad you've booked in to see Dr Lolatgis. Consider the lap band I guess, If not for the fertility reasons, but also for long-term benefits. Did your FS say if the patients she referred to Dr L had success with him?
AFM like I mentioned before, I have been very good with having a hearty breakfast every day now :D And I'm loving it! I look forward to breakfast time now, with yummy eggs and tasty toast and sometimes baked beans and bacon mmmmmm. I realised also that last cycle I was maybe a bit too relaxed with taking my pessaries. I forgot to a couple here and there, and when at work I hadn't been keeping them in the fridge. I don't know if it made a huge difference or not, but this time I am being extra vigilant.
Feeling down now though :( Dh has been working away at his uncle's farm for the last 4 weeks with a 1 week break in the middle, and was supposed to be coming home tonight. Just in time for tomorrow morning's transfer. He just rang to say he has to stay until Tuesday :( I don't know what to do?? Has anyone done a transfer on their own? I feel weird doing it without him there, this is supposed to OUR special moment. I guess I can ask my mum to come with me... Maybe even to just wait in the waiting room for me.
This can't be a good omen...
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Ree ree just a quickie - I've had most of my transfers alone. I know it's nicer to have your DH there but honestly I always feel like there's enough other people in the room (usually four plus me!) and it happens pretty quickly anyway. Though when I got pg with DD it was the one time DH was at transfer!! Good luck for tomorrow - I think I'm out already, no symptoms at all :(
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Happy Birthday n2l!!!!! Hope you've had a lovely day :)
Ree, now that I have been drinking caffeine free tea for years I don't notice any difference! lol. I do remember thinking there was little difference between the two though when I switched over ;) As for hubby missing out on tomorrow, I wouldn't worry too much hun. My very first transfer was sans DF and I was OK! He was o/s at the time so it sucked majorly as I had to call him and tell him we got a BFP. The second and third time I asked him to come but only b/c he was available. I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. What time is transfer?
