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    Thanks TL - hope ur ok hun.



    Heaps of to you all as well as all my love and support which will now be from the sidelines as I'll be lurking still. I just want to thank you all for the wonderful knowledge I have gained from you all and for all your amazingly wonderful strength and support - I maintain that you are all an inspiration to me. I hope the universe blesses you all very soon.

    It's time to move on for me - don't know where but I'll be keeping an eye on all of you.

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    PCL Bye and gald to see you moving but will miss you
    Marsha - Ohh sweetie :hugs: and lost of water sweet heres hoping that BFP is one the way

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    Congratulations PLC, fantastic news

    Quick question, how much exercise to do you guys do in the 2ww after ET? My clinic has a no-gym policy, only walking and swimming and up until now I have abided by that, but I have just started boot camp! I plan on going right up until transfer, but afterwards I'd still like to go along and maybe do an altered routine, ie not running for 30 minutes straight! :P Any ideas?

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    My clinic has a no heat and nothing that raises the body temp rule for the TWW hope this helps bec. So glad to have you back hun

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    Hi Everyone
    Well I am back after another dissapointing cycle. I wanted to ask if anyone knows of the most highly recommended fertility clinic in Perth. Its not that I am not happy at my current clinic but I am obvioulsy not getting the results we are all after. My DH and I have done every single test under the sun and thank god they have all come back normal but that still doesn't answer why we are not getting our long awaited BFP. I have done 5 Stim cycles and it seems that our embies drop off dramatically from DAY 3. My FS suggested Donor sperm last night. I am in a little shock as how can they recommend that if they can't find the issue? But they say due to my age it would be sperm problems. I just dont know what to do. Below are my cycle results any help suggestions etc would be great

    ICSI #1 100 Puregon 3 embies no transfer
    IVF # 1 100 Puregon 6 embies 1 X Day 6 blast transfer BFN
    IVF #2 150 Puregon 14 embies 2 x Day 3 embies transferred BFN
    ICSI #2 150 Puregon 14 embies 1 x Day 5 Blast transferred and 1 Blast Frozen BFN
    ICSI #3 150 Puregon 13 embies 1 x Day 5 Blast and 1 x Frozen Blast Transferred BFN

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    Nat - I am in Brissy but know there are some wonderful WA ladies how can give recommendations. Sorry to hear you have not got a BFP yet.
    Lots of good will and hugs to you
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    Nat - don't know any in perth have you tried accupunture and had some zinc tests etc? we are on our 5th ICSI cycle. we just get low egg #

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    Hey Nat
    Im not sure if I have the answers but my DH and I had issues with his sperm. In the end he had 2 sperm retreival operations. First one they didnt get enough to freeze but the second op they did. Do you think this would be an option for you and DH.???

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    Hi Girls
    I have tried accupunture once but I didnt enjoy it but I didn't give it a chance, I may look into this. I am currently on some natural medication which is Omega 3, Intrefem and HGC which contains vitex, calcium and some other stuff. I am desperate and will try anything. I know people say you shouldnt take anything during IVF/ICSI cycles but I am desperate and am willing to try anything.
    With DH sperm they haven't found any real evidence that there is anything wrong with it but they say due to my age and embryo's dropping off they are putting this down to DH sperm. We tried IVF but didn't have the fertilisation rates so we tried ICSI with better results but still no excellent. FS is thinking of doing Assisted hatching.
    CarlaMP - I have thought about asking FS if they could retrieve DH sperm another way to see if this will make a difference even though they cant find the evidence that his sperm are the problem. They retreive it from the testicles is that right? Would this sperm be un harmed or healthier sperm?

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    Hi All,
    My previous 2 cycle were at puregon 150 and 175 units. I got only 8 eggs on both the cycles. In my second cycle there were 4 good embies, one was tranfered at 3 rd day but not successful. I asked to do blastocyct culture on frozen embies, one didn?t survive on thawing process, one didn?t reach 5th day. I realy hoped that third one will make it, as I thought it was reached to blastocyst but only low number of cells in inner cell mass. My clinic told that If they transfer this one I will definitly misscarry because it will grow like embty sac . So noting on 2nd cycle.
    I started my 3rd stimulation (Puregon, 225units) on last Tuesday( on my day2). We are expecting more eggs this time and doing blastocyst on fresh embies. I did BT today, my e2 levels are 1939. I need to continue the stim for next 2 days and going for scan on sat morning. I feel bloated and my breasts are bit sore. Working from home for next 2 days. Funny thing is I cannot wear my pants , it is very uncomfortable, it is just some funny feeling in my abdomen may be around my overies and it is not painful though. Is my e2 level ok on day 9

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    Good Luck White Lotus I am on stims of 350 this cycle

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    Hi Nat
    I would think that the sperm would be alot healthier as it doesnt have to fend for itself along the way to get to eggie!! Yes they open up the testicle and I know this sounds painful for them, but they srape and suck it out.....then they monitor them so see the surviving ones and then fertilise. We were told after my DH's first operation when they didnt get any sperm that we would be looking at a donor aswell. Very scary and invading kind of possibility but we were prepared for that and picked our donor and hoped for the best. In the end our specialist got a nice load {sorry.....thats a bit rude!} from my DH and it was able to be used so we no longer needed to think about the donor situation. if I were you, i would be demanding answers. They cant expect you to agree to a donor when they cant tell you what is wrong. I dont think thats right nor do I think thats fair...

    I also was on IBS SUpport, Inner health Plus, Omega 3 Fish Oil tablets, Elevit, folic acid and 1 berrocca a day while I was on IVF....there was only one real problem with all that....I RATTLED WHEN I WALKED.....my FS said it was fine. But check with your Dr if you start taking anything for sure.

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    white lotus - i wish you all the very best for this cycle
    CarlaMP - I am angry that they are quick to say donor when I dont really feel we have given it a chance. We havent changed my drugs or looked at the possiblity of retrieving sperm in a different way. I have made an appointment with the Embryologist today so I will see what they say. So do you think that if we retrieve sperm from his testis that this would be alot healither and may even give us stronger embies?
    I know what you mean about all those tablets. I feel like all i do is pop pills

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    congrats PLC.
    white lotus- cant wear ur pants??? so like me, ive to turn to DH pants instead. I onli started to bloat after ET so cant comment on ur e2 level.

    Im still bloated, gonna go shopping for pants cos i jus cant fit into mine anymore.

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    Thanks Marsha,Nat & tiggerLinda.
    I was reading some where that If we take high protien&fat diet while on simulation there are chanches we can get good quality eggs. I am eatinglots of nuts, couple of hardboied eggs, milk and legumes(as a meat substitute, since I don't like to eat meat every day) every day. Lets see how it goes. I am also taking elevit and omega3 fish oil.

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    Thanks for those tips White Lotus I might give it a go

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    Nat Im not sure. I just know that that was our only option as DH's swimmers werent strong enough any other way. It is def a question to be asked though. They must thik that we want a baby so bad that ..'here pick a donor and you'll be right'...sometimes I think they think we are just a number! Ask all the questions you can think of....we did.

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    hey girls
    woah its been busy in here.
    Hi to everyone and loads of sticky vibes!!!!!
    BecD: most places say its ok to keep going with stuff you have been doing for awile, i would think bootcamp might just be abit too much. The reason i say this is i worked out as normal which is quite a heavy routine while doing IUI got my BFP and it was ectopic and i cant help thinking to myself that it was because i kept working out. There is also a study that was done that showed people who work out before and during IVF have less success (do a google scholar search to find the study) At the end of the day i dont think it has too much of an effect but like the nurses told me you dont want any what if's! if that makes sense. I know its hard as i love the gym too, but i had to make the decision was it worth it. GOod luck with what ever you decide.
    Nat: hi and welcome back, hope its a short stay, you must be sooo frustrated with all that. I am at Fertility North in joondalup they are saying that there success rates for IVF (58%) and ICSi are the highest in Perth. I really llove most of the nurses at fetility north and have been happy enough there have been a few issues but nothing major i guess. Sometimes just a change of view can be all thats needed. But one of the nurses said that the embrologist is what makes a good clinic and defines the success rates and that kinda makes sense to me.
    White lotus: welcome! i reckon your levels sound good my day 6 E2 was 3000 and that was way too high, so i reckon 1900 would be about right. Good luck and i hope this is the one.
    Hi to all you other wonderful ladies. i will catch up soon!

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