Long-term TTC & Assisted Conception April - May 2010

Renee! - CONGRATULATIONS!! After the long wait - you must be over the moon! :dance:

Melissa - Happy belated birthday - sorry I missed it yesterday and fingers crossed for your BT

Kit Kat - Follicles and amount of eggs collected can be very random - I have usually had very close to the amount of follicles produced be eggs until this time when 23 follicles produced only 12 eggs... but as they say, it only takes one! FX for you.

Tantee - hell yes have a few drinks - you never know - it could be your last for over 9 months! :)

For everyone else - good luck with everything.

AFM: Just got a call that none of the other embies made it to blast so no freezing -not surprised at this, just disappointed.

Still have a small glimmer of hope with the 2x day 3 embies transferred on Thursday.

Got very sensitive nipples and unfortunately thrush.

Not on any pessaries - which I am so happy about - but just finished a set of antibiotics after ET (which causes thrush), am on cardiprin (asprin), predisonone and of course, folate.

Mid-luteral BT tomorrow and second injection of pregnyl.

11 days to go. :o

Renee - OMG!!!!!!! That is AWESOME news :leap: - hugest congrats to you!!!
Thanks for all the happy birthday wishes girls. Had an ok day but I think next weekend would've been a better day for it cos just a tad anxious atm!!! Laying very low right now, only two more sleeps to go.

Melissa ~ Happy Birthday for yesterday, sorry this is belated! Hope you had a wonderful day. GL hun xoxo

WOW Renee ~ You have given me so much hope, CONGRATULATIONS and all the best for next 9months hun :dance:

Lairdoz ~ All the best hun with this cycle! Yeh holiday to Tas on 9th May! Really looking forward to good food and wine in Tas. Then I'll worry about TTC. Although def some BD'ing in Tas LOL

Leabie ~ thanks hun, def looking forward to the wine and great food in Tas LOL. GL with everything xo

Tantee ~ thanks for the hugs and support. Enjoy your bevies, let your hair down cant do too much damage at the moment and it helps relax. Hope time goes quick for your next go.

Chekigal ~ Sorry you didnt get eggs to freeze, I know that sinking feeling you get when you hear that. Both times Ive had none to freeze. GL with the ones you've had transferred xo. Oh hun just a warning, I got in trouble for my last signature being too long, you may need to condense yours (check the rules ;)) Dont want ya to get in trouble.

Maggie ~ Welcome and hi. Beautiful name (my gorgeous angel sis was a Maggie). I also had low HCG last preg, it did end with a m/c but I also had low progesterone. At the time I did heaps of reading and found that many other woman had really low HCG's and went on to have beautiful children. So if possible try not too stress and keep hoping. Will have everything crossed for you. :pray:

Glenny ~ Hi and wishing you all the very best, GL

Juniper, Babytruj, KitKat and anyone else Ive missed hi and wishing you all the best!
Good luck all. Lots of babydust
Thanks for all your kind thought regarding my BFN. No AF yet but I think she'll be here tomorrow and then I can move forward.

Love to all xoxo

Hey loops... Tx for advise.., did get in trouble tho.. Didn't see your post before getting message. :redface:
Should have seen signature before.... I had to condense it to meet 250 characters... Which I thought was all that was required... No biggie... I think it's ok now!?

Hi can I join? I wasn't going to just yet seeing as we don't start IVF for another few months but thought what the h-ll why not plus I wanted to chat to ltttc-ers and can't unless I am in these threads. I have been hanging around the 12months plus ttc thread for the past 12months.

My story briefly. We have been very actively ttc for almost 2years now (2yrs in August) but three years if I count the yr we were not trying not preventing but I was BFing. I weaned DD in 08 thinking that might have been stopping me getting pregnant. We have a pregnancy of unknown location in May 09 that failed on its own then In July 09 I fell pregnancy again and this time was ectopic so had my right tube removed along with the pregnancy. So here we are 10months since my surgery and haven't fallen pregnant since. At that stage I was also diagnosed with PID and endo and adhesions caused from both I guess. I had a lap and dye last year and my last tube is pinned down but opened. DH also has high percent of abnormal sperm and low motility. I saw the Gyno in March and start IVF August/September this year if we haven't fallen pregnant by then we are still :pray: we do.

We are seeing a Gyno not FS due to our location. Our plans are to have IVF through IVF Australia and we do it all through our Gyno locally and just see the FS for EPU and transfer if we get to that stage. Its not ideal but I dont have alot of choices due to where we live and DH not coping with all the travel.

So thats my story pretty much.

Mildez, hi and welcome! Of course you may join in the mayhem here! I only wish you didn't need to and that you had succeeded in your TTC endeavours earlier. Hopefully you'll be able to learn a bit about the IVF process from those of us doing it now so that it seems a little less scary when you do start. Better yet, lets keep our FX that you never need to start. ;)

Hi Ladies,
Thanks for all your replies. I go for the second blood test this morning. I must admit, I'm not very hopeful but am open to miracles. Told DH we'd either be celebrating tonight or consoling each other with a bottle of wine on the couch.
I'm hoping for the best for all of you who are still waiting for results.
Maggie

Maggie,
Good Luck for today. I have everything crossed for you.
xxx

Thank you for the Welcome Juniper. Yes lots to learn about IVF.

Maggie I will keep everything crossed for you for excellent results today :pray:

Just a question how did you decide to either have 1 blastie transferred or 2 X 3day embies? My Dr said with me they would most likely transfer 2 day 3 or maybe it was day 2 but should I push for 1 day 5? It was due to travelling nothing else. He said due to the distance we are going to go the clinic usually collects on Friday and transfers something back (if anything) on the monday. Did you go with what the FS suggested or question why?

Hi Ladies
Chekigal ~ Sorry I didnt notice your sig sooner. Oh well, all will be ok anyway. How are you going in TWW, not too stressed I hope.

Wishingbaby ~ Sorry I missed you last night - all the best with your cycle, FX.

Mildez ~ Good to see you in this thread - you'll get plenty of support in here. But I hope you get to the Preg threads very soon, FX hun xo

Maggie ~ Hoping you get to celebrate

AFM ~ Just waiting for AF, I know she's on the way as I had bad migraine this morning. Just want her to come and then out of the way.

Maggie, FX you get to celebrate tonight. :crossfingers:

Mildez, there's a thread on the 2/3dt vs 5dt issue here: https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...-transfer.html
We have just changed to a new Dr and he wants to do a 2dt this cycle (because I don't get many eggs/embryos). I want us to try for a 5dt again (even though we had nothing to transfer last time we tried with our old Dr) and have told him as much. I'm still expecting to have to fight him on it because he never actually agreed to it in our last appointment, but I figure it's my body, our embryos, our risk and our money, so it's our decision.

Loops, sorry for the BFN...

Tantee, I think a few drinks is not so bad. You need to chill out a little and relax, and a girls weekend should be good for you.

Melissa – Yeah, I just find acupuncture helps me relax. I do find it a bit hard, cos I am in Singapore, and a lot of the TCM practitioners are all Main land Chinese, so their English is not great. I could go to more Western facilities, but their prices are like 3 times the price, and I figure anywhere I can save some money is good Happy Birthday for the 24th! Hope you had a good time, and enjoyed yourself. The TWW is the worst part, and the part I am dreading the most!!

TrueBlue – I was petrified of IVF at first because of the needles, and actually put it off for a few months, but once you get into it it’s not so bad. The needles are kinda easy, and it only takes a few seconds. You’ll be a needle junkie soon

Lairdoz – How did you fit so many in this year already! That is madness. We are going for blasties – my husband won’t have anything less put in.

Hi Maggie – I had an ectopic pregnancy Jan 09, and my Hcg levels were really low then. I did a HPT the night I started bleeding (very heavy bleeding, and huge cramps) and it was positive. I was essentially 1.5 weeks late at that date. The blood tests at the hospital showed the HCG, but very low levels. I had to have my fallopian tube removed cos it was too damaged.
Other than that, I have no experience of having a blood test to check for Hcg levels.

Renee – Congratulations. Great news there!

Kitkat – good luck with the EPU.

AFM – the scan was ok. My lining is too thin, only at 4, so the FS wants to wait to do another scan on Friday, as she said it needs to be between 6 and 8... So I have upped my Progynova tabs to 4 a day, and still injecting 10ml of Lucrin a day. So bonus is I get to go to Kelly Clarkson tomorrow night! Bad thing is I have to wait another week, Sigh! But rather my body was ready and has nice thick lining to catch the embryo!!

Happy Monday everyone!

Thanks Babytruj ~ Enjoy Kelly Clarkson. Thats one person Id love to go and see.
And a week will fly around and your body will be all ready :) GL and FX

Thanks everyone for all your wishes, it still doesn't feel real. I am so paranoid with every cramp and pain i am just waiting for something to go wrong. GL to everyone here i will keep popping in to see what is happening and hopefully i will see some of you real soon in the next forum.

Congratulations Renee! :leap:

How wonderful for you that you fell pregnant naturally. All the best for a H&H 9 months!

Ladies, thank you so much for all your well wishes. Unfortunately my Hcg is now down to 3, so definitely negative. There's something quite cruel in having positive HPT's and then this but I guess we all have out course to sail with this and few of us find it smooth.
I was touched by all your support though so big THANK YOU.
We're now waiting for AF to arrive so we can do a thaw cycle with one of our frosties. I wish you all the best!
Renee- hope you sail through the pregnancy, congratulation!
Mildez- I don't know if your question was for me. I didn't get a choice in anything, my FS said they only transfer 1 embryo initially and they only seem to do day 2's. I wasn't even asked. Hope it happens for you and there's no need for IVF.
glenny-c: stay positive. At this stage it's all possible!
Maggie

Maggie- So sorry for you, I was hoping you would have happier news. Positive thoughts for your frosty baby!

juniper76 thank you for the link. Ill check it out. Want to be imformed before signing consents etc not that I will probably get a choice.

Maggie I am so sorry the BT didn't show a miracle rise. I will :pray: for you that your thaw cycle with one of our frosties results in your take home bubba.

babytruj sending you lining grow vibes.

GL Renee and yes hope to see you in the pg threads soon.

Maggie ~ So sorry, I know how rough it is :hug: I guess it was a chemical pregnancy in this case, so you did get that little step closer so next time might be the 1! I truly hope so for you, Good luck for your FET, FX.

Maggie, I'm so sorry to hear that. :comfort: I went through a similar experience last year and try to take some encouragement from getting closer to a healthy pg than I'd ever been before. It doesn't make the loss any less upsetting, but it helps shine a little hope on the path ahead. I hope you don't have long to wait for AF.

Hi lovely ladies!

Maggie - :hug: so sad to read your news - this TTC madness is full of hope and disappointment and false starts, the benefit is that it makes us super-tough chicks. Take time out to grieve, and spoil yourself, you deserve it.

Juniper76 - I read that link you posted, thanks for that. You should push for a blastie if thats what you want. We were soooo confused as to what to do with this cycle (our first), luckily our embryologist sat with us for half an hour and discussed the pros and cons. We went for blasties in the end, glad we did.

Chekigal - hope your feeling well, and the wait isn't doing your head in! Sorry to hear there were none for the freezer.

Melissal - got everything crossed for you today!!!

Mildez - HI! :hello: and welcome

Babytruj - hope the lining is growing nicely, and Kelly Clarkson is good tonight!

HI :hello: to anyone that I've missed! Hope you're doing well.

AFM - had my day 5 transfer yesterday, got to see our beautiful blastie on the screen, hatching out. Soooo relieved! We were also absolutely stoked to have 5 for the freezer, after an anxious decision to let all the embies go to day 5. We know that we are lucky having that many (we started with 36 at collection). The downside of course is the OHSS risk, still keeping it at bay though with rest, diet and acupuncture.

Speaking of acupuncture, I must waddle off (the only movement I'm capable of making with my "swiss cheese" ovaries, as the nurse described it :o ) to my next appointment! Have a great day everyone, and good luck to those waiting for results.

Sorry for long post!

GL Leabie, hatching blastie is very positive, FX and enjoy your accupuncture.
You're lucky you got to see it on U/S. I go to a country clinic and they dont have good equipment so Ive never really seen much nor have I been able to get a photo or anything.

AFM ~ Still waiting for AF and now starting to wonder again. Ive had some lightheadedness (long word LOL) and constipation and little tummy niggles etc. Has me wondering whether I should do another POAS. One I did Fri was BFN but things starting to get weird. Perhaps just wishful thinking, :dunno:

I'd do another one Loops, to give you some peace of mind (I am an addict though, so you may want to take my advice lightly!)

Tx for your positive thoughts, yes, hatching blas tie -v. exciting! :crossfingers:

Hi ladies

Great to see some old faces back in here again getting back on the TTC journey.

Melissal good luck for today hope you get some happy news

Maggie so sorry to hear that this wasn't your month but like others before me have said at least your one step closer, take time to grieve and be king to yourself

Loops12 do another test even if its just to put your mind at ease. I knowe that after my last cycle in Dec I didn't get a AF for 2 months I was stressing about it and thinking maybe it happened naturally and it wasn't till after I had a BT that I put my mind at ease. After what you have been through it may not be unusal for your body to just be readjusting

Sorry to all those I've missed hope your all still travelling well

AFM just waiting for Friday morning to come around for my next scan and to start testing for my surge going by previous experience FET should be in just under two weeks

Maggie - I'm so sorry to hear the bad news. That really sucks. I suppose it's good news that you got at least to the chem preg stage, but it still sucks.

Chekigal and glenny c - good luck in your twws. Glenny C, I hope you have cheered up since your other post. I was just reading the Crinone package insert's list of side effects, and it definitely sounds like the meds. Please don't be too hard on yourself.

Melissal - very belated happy b-day to you and hope your BT went well today.

Everyone else, hope you are having a great week and enjoyed the long weekend.

AFM, I had my EPU this morning. They got 6 eggs. I don't know how the quality is. Nobody said anything negative, though. I think I'm pretty happy that they got 6. I was freaking out that most of my 8 follies were going to be empty since I had very low day 7 E2 levels. There were 2 other girls in the recovery room at the hospital with me who'd also had EPUs today; one of them had 2 eggs retrieved, and the other only 1. So I felt kind of greedy with my 6. Now I'm just resting. I'm a little crampy, but it's not that bad. Must be the morphine pill they gave me - LOL. My dad arrives tomorrow from overseas for 2 1/2 weeks with us. Luckily I spent the whole day cleaning the house yesterday so I don't need to worry about it today. I *did* stupidly assume that I'd be able to make it to the supermarket at some point this afternoon or evening. Now I'm thinking I might just take my dad with me after he gets here tomorrow since it's so nice just resting here at home.

Well, getting achy. Might head back to bed now.

KitKat72

Hiya, just a quickie little me post. BFN which sucks but kinda felt it coming. DH was so sure that I wouldn't have the willpower not to poas so I was determined to hold out and not do one. I succeeded and gotta say, never again!!!! Why in hell would I put myself through two hours of crap waiting for the phone to ring to tell me something I'd know after 5 mins with an HPT? And that two hours is with me knowing people in th right places so I could get the call literally as soon as the results were off the machine!!! So, from here on in, I join the poas addict club :lol:. I must be getting tough in my old age because I am doing ok - it does help that we are booked in for round two which I am really pleased about with only a few months to wait so as far as a crushing bfn day can go, I feel ok.
Leabie - woohoo for an awesome transfer :dance:
Kitkat - yay for a great EPU result, rest up now hun :)

Melissal - sorry to hear about your BFN, I understand about POAS'ing, although I have to admit I don't use them after having a few chemicals. My clinic is fantastic and will let me have my BT early if I want, but I completely understand not feeling able to go through all that, esp. when (you think) you know it's a BFN. Glad to hear you are having a another one soon, hopefully that will be your well deserved BFP!

KiKat - Look after yourself, you'll need it for the coming nine months...

Terry - Hope the wait is going OK for you, and that the scan goes well.

Leabie - sounds great, I love that you got to see it! (I can't do that at my clinic) I hope that the 2WW (well much shorter than that for you!) goes quickly with a fantastic result.

Maggie - Sorry to hear your news, it's a good sign though that something happened, so hopefully soon it will be your turn :)

Loops - It can take quite a while for your body to get back to normal after what yours has been through, not that of course I am not hoping for good news for you.

Juniper - Hope you are going well.

Hi to the new ladies - I hope your visit is short and sweet!

AFM - No news, just waiting for my first BT which is only on day 8 as I am taking femara for the first time so we have no idea how I will respond.

Hey guys,

Just jumping in for a sec to wish everyone well on their journey at the moment. I am on a cycle break inbetween stim and stim cycles as my crappy, day 3, fragmented, solo, embie (unsurprisingly) didnt make it. Trying not to think about IVF at all im my gap cycle, but just couldn't help jumping in to take a peek at how all you guys are doing!

Hi Ladies,

Just a quick note to let you all know that I've just heard that of my 6 eggies, only 2 fertilized despite using ICSI. Apparently the largest egg distintegrated during the insertion. The embryologist thinks that egg was from my "huge" follicle, which was already at 22 mm 4 days before EPU. It must have been too mature. She's still keeping an eye on the other 3 to see if any of them fertilize late, but it sounds like that is not very likely.

In the meantime, we've decided to move me up from a day 5 transfer to a day 3. The embryologist says that the thought is to try to culture the second embryo to blast. But, as I think things through, this leads me to a number of questions. First, if it gets to blast, can I transfer the 2nd embie then (ie, do two separate transfers in the one cycle -- one on day 3 and one on day 5)? Or do I *have* to freeze it (with the attendant risk of it dying during the freeze/thaw process)? Secondly, I was going to only transfer 1 embryo (assuming at least one survives to day 3), but now I'm thinking that, if they both live that long, maybe we should go ahead and transfer both of them at day 3 instead of playing around. Decisions, decisions! Any thoughts appreciated . . .
KitKat72

KitKat72 I have never heard them doing two transfers a few days apart. In theory it sounds like a good idea although I wonder if there is any chance that implabting the blastie could jeopadise the 1st transfer if it was starting to implant. Doesn't the blastie go into the uterus with some fluid so perhaps that could know the other out of the nest or something althhough by day5 it probably shouldn't have implanted. I can see decisions, decisions. Worth asking but I think they would probably say no. It would be good to know there reason behind not doing it anyway wouldn't it? I wish you have a few more fertilize although ti does only take one. Hopeing the two that are looking good now continue to grow and divide and be your future bubbas.

Leabie :dance: for your hatching emby been put back home. And :dance: for your 5 little snow bubs.

Mummawannabe hope everything goes smoothly for your next cycle and results in a sticky BFP.

Me probably bringing forward IVF till July/August now. Will see the Gyno in another 6weeks and see about starting. DH keeps changing his mind. He wanted to wait but when AF arrived last time he said no he doesn't. I think he the Gyno is suppose to put me on the pill first to make it all happen on a specific date as IVF Australia apparently only operates on certain days. I guess thats when the wait will really begin. I am looking forward to starting but nervous as about EPU and the following few days after waiting to see if we have anything to transfer. And wondering how much it will hurt having ovaries full of larger follies. Even one follie I can feel for a week before O what will it be like with lots more in there?

hi Girls,

kitkat - your situation sounds so similar to mine recently. I have had numerous ICSI procedures. My last cycle produced 11 eggs of which only two fertilised. I must say I was devastated. I had only ever had blastie transfers both fresh and frozen, one at a time, for no result. Because of my poor fertilisation rate my clinic this time suggested I have a day three transfer. With my two eggs they said one looked good at day three and the other didn't and was not likely to progress to the freezer. So we had the same big decision to make - transfer one or two. Eventually we decided to transfer them both. I couldn't bring myself to give up all together on one knowing it was unlikely to make it past day three but........ nobody knew for sure. And almost two weeks ago my test confirmed it had worked. I wont know how many stuck until my scan in a few weeks. What I hope to convey, after the toughest cycle emotionally we had success, after we had almost given up. Good luck with your decision kitkat, go with your gut feeling. fingers crossed for you. x

Just a quick one ...

Hi Kitkat,

It is tough when faced with a decision like yours. In regard to your question, I haven't heard of them doing 2 separate ET's in the one cycle.

Everyone is different, and you have probably already considered:

How comfortable you would be with having twins
Time/age and financial constraints
Your clinics freeze/thaw processes

Although blastocyst is becoming more prevelant, don't forget, many bubs have been and continue to be conceived with 3 day embies.

That's the tough thing about this whole process, we are all in different bodies and different situations, but I hope you are able to reach a decision you are comfortable with. :pray: your emby/ies continue to thrive.

To everyone else, Hope you are doing well.... ;)

Kitkat, that's a really tough one. This is your first cycle right? If it doesn't work out, hopefully the next one will be better - often the first is a bust as they try to get things right.
I don't really know, as I haven't been in your situation, but just off the top of my head I'd be inclined to transfer both if they make it to day 3. The whole freeze and thaw things seems a bit iffy (and expensive) just for one embryo.
At my clinic, for fresh cycles, women aged 40+ (I know you're not there yet!) seem to have much better success with day-3 embryos anyway, so I think that's something else to consider as you get to the other end of the 30s.
Hope your little embryos do the right thing :goodluck:

gday guys quick post as am meant to be going to get cows and calves in the nurse called with yesterdays resuilts from the bt my E2 levels are at 1500 which is way way too high they are meant to be lower than 200 so am now on double the amount of synarel to see if that works am having another bt on monday if it hasn't dropped then am havig an u/s to see if I have a cyst am torn between being hopeful and heartbroken at this point in time as there is a possiblity our cycle could be cancelled.
has anyone else had this and then their levels have dropped cheers

Hi guys,
Can I ask some advice please? I had my EPU on Wed 14th Apr, Took the trigger shot at 2am Tues morning (that was fun!!) My ET was on Fri 16th and my BT is due this fri morning.

However- being me- I just couldn't stand the wait and did a HPT this afternoon about 4pm. Everything I have read says that if you leave it until 14-15 days after trigger shot you don't have to worry about false positives. My test was a BFP but I am almost too scared to believe it. Should I still be worried about false positives??? I'm going to do another one tomorrow to see any changes in the line. What do you all think?:pray:

Sounds very positive, Glenny. I've heard different things about how long it takes Pregnyl to leave your system and not give a false positive - anything from three days to a week, which is what my FS told me. So if it's been two weeks and you've got a BFP it is sounding very, very promising. :dance::dance::dance:

glenny_c woow it does sound very promising. It should have gone by now been well over a week. If the line was not extremely faint then I would say its even more promising. I don't think I could have waited as long as you have :D thats pretty good to get to 2days before the BT. Can you bring it forward by a day? Just for confirmation?

Just wanted to thank you all for the replies this afternoon. I appreciate the accumulated wisdom of this board and I found all of your comments very helpful! BTW, Marcellus, that is very interesting about the 40+ crowd having better results on day 3 transfers. I wonder why that is? And I wonder if that also applies to 38-year-olds like me? I'll keep telling myself that it does!

Glenny C - your situation sounds very positive. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Trueblue -- just wanted to let you know that I am praying that the increased synarel works for you and that your cycle is not cancelled.

Take care, everyone.

KitKat72

Hi everyone,
Hope you don't mind me joining, seems you have been traveling the up & down journey together for a while. DH & I have just started a natural FET cycle with our only frozen emby. Have first BT next Wed then will start the at home urine testing for LH surge.
Anyone else undergoing FET or had experience with it??
Not sure how i am feeling about it all, other than very nervous, I'm particularly nervous about the thaw as the FC can't find it's pre-freeze grading, but we also know that there's nothing i can do about it.
Anyway, that's me in a nutshell...hope you don't mind me joining for the cycle at least. I think i'd send DH crazy if i sat around speculating all the possibilities with him 24/7.

Wow... lots going on atm.

Leabie - congrats on your blast and five snowbubs - FX

KitKat - I think the 2 x Day 3 transfer sounds like the way to go... FX

Glenny - all sounds very exciting for you... FX

Big hi to everyone else and hope you are all well.

AFM - still awaiting final BT - however did HPT today and got a negative. My chances look very slim.... :shakehead:

AF due tomorrow.