Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - August/September 09

[Persephone1]

In response to the chatter about thawing and re-freezing - its interesting as this is all learning for me. We only have 2 bubsicles and when I asked about the FET today, they said once I am ovulating they will thaw one and ET 2 days later. I asked "what if it does not thaw OK ,is there still time to thaw the other one" and answer was yes. I guess I would be wondering ... why would your clinics thaw more than what you are willing to put back in? I guess it all comes down to timing, but if they thaw maybe 3 days out and it doesn't seem to go well, wouldn't they just thaw another until they get one to transfer and then keep the rest as they are; frozen for next time if needed? As I said, this part of the game is all new to me as we have not gone through a thawing process before and our bubsicles are 2day embys.

Hi Nix,

I think if you've got some frozen they just thaw one at a time on the day of your transfer. If the first one doesn't survive, they just thaw another. As the embryos are at the same stage that your body is at at the time (ie, 2dpo, or 5dpo) then it's easy just to thaw another.

For me, I've got 6 embryos which were frozen at Day 2. We've had 6 ETs now, all at Day 2. Different Clinics have different protocols for whether they grow the embryos to Day 2 or Day 5. There's a whole lot of statistics and facts about which is best - I guess it depends on the Clinic, the FS, and the patient. I think my FS thought I would be pregnant within a few Day 2 transfers. After 6 unsuccessful ETs, we reviewed the situation and FS said that it appeared that there was an argument to try and grow the remaining embryos to Day 5, as the chances of success increase with Day 5's.

So....long story short, we're thawing all 6 at the same time (they're currently out of the freezer, my little lonely babies!) and hopefully one of them will be waiting for me on Wednesday (Day 5). Statistically not many will make it to that stage. The reason for thawing more than one is because if they only thaw one at a time and I turn up on Wednesday and that one has not survived, then my cycle is cancelled for this month. Arguably it's best to thaw all of them at the same time because hopefully at least one of them will be waiting for me on Wednesday.

Phew. I hope that makes sense.

Meanwhile, I guess I've managed to get this far through my TWW without thinking about it much. Usually by this time I would have had a transfer, so it feels a bit odd to still be waiting for a FET. But the anxiety is starting to crawl in...I'm starting to obsess about whether they'll be ringing me tomorrow or Wednesday to cancel the FET because none of them made it to Day 5. Ugh, it's making me feel sick. But normally around this time I'm feeling a bit anxious anyway, with the enormity of another embryo on board and having to wait....

Phew again! to everyone, thinking of you all...will drop back in on Wednesday with FET info. Wish me luck girls!

Seph

[Onja]

Hey everybooodie

Hope you are doing well and being happy

Coral and Meltc.. good luck gearing up

Colour.. It is quite normal for an acupunturist or natural therapist to suggest to avoid TTC whilst doing herbs etc. Hormones are well hormonal and when we start to take herbs, the effect usually makes them fluctuate before settling to nice even levels. You might experience some effects of hormones fluctuating in that time but it's all worth it to get them to a good place

Wishes good luck with your blasties.. hope they blast into something great

Persephone : Good luck

Loops - sometimes we 'know' and I wasn't suprised when my AF came but you never know he could be playing mouse

Nix and Lise - hope like me you have been taking care and getting taken care of (and ahem yes a few wines kinda helped)

AFM: I heard from my FS today so feel a bit more 'love' she is going to put my on a 'thaw cycle' do you call it? I have lil snowcone but she said I have to go get an ovulation kit as I might not ovulate this cycle.... So does that mean - I see if I ovulate and then do I have the transfer? How long does it take for snowcone to ahem (don't wanna say melt) ahh thaw (yeah that's better) Gosh that's weird

Also as I am writing this I swear my ovaries are aching like when I was doing the Gonal-F...?

Hope, love, stickies and good vibes to all... don't forget to have a laugh - even if you have to put on a stupid DVD or go to see a movie

come oonn lil ovaries. Let's whip these lil doggies into line

yeehha

[Loops12]

Juniper ~ all the best for your cycle in November.

Nix ~ thanks hun. Hope you can move forward now and get your BFP ASAP

Seph ~All the best for tomorrow, will be thinking of you

Onja ~ Im still loving your attitude. A good laugh is always important definitely.

AFM ~ well I was wrong yestie - AF still hasnt arrived but I am still expecting her. But at the same time have a tiny ray of hope.

Hi to everyone else and all the best

[Persephone1]

Loops? No AF? When's your BT?

When can I squeal?

[Krikkit]

Hi Ladies, thought I might pop in (for those that don't see the other thread)

I got my yesterday! we are very happy and lucky! 12 months of waiting and its finally here!

[Loops12]

Seph ~ Im only in a natural TWW so I will probably just do a POAS if AF doesnt come over the next day or so, I think its only a matter of time though until she comes as I have headaches and that is usaually a big indicator she is coming and also it could be just late because of the hormones from my IVF cycle last month playing havoc with my system.

Krikkit ~ Once again, a huge big CONGRATS!

[tantee]

Congratulations Krikkit - may you have a happy & healthy pregnancy. Best wishes to you!! That is fantastic news

Loops - it is sounding mighty suspicious.... this could just be the one. Fingers quietly crossed for you.

Seph - Good luck for tomorrow. Sending you lots of luck for your embies. I am holding my breath for you as I can imagine the nervousness that you must be feeling.

Onja - From what I understand, it only takes 1-2 hours to thaw and a friend who has gone thru this before said that if an embie doesn't thaw well, they can thaw another so you don't have to cancel the cycle. This may change from clinic to clinic.

AFM - Had my 2nd u/s yesterday and they called back to say ET will go ahead on Saturday. I gave them the nod to send all 6 frosties to blast. I am sooooo nervous and pray that at least one will survive. They said if I don't hear from them, to just turn up on Saturday. This is going to be a looooooooooong week. Started Progesterone Pessaries last night (did not use these on fresh cycle) I was up nearly all last night with a splitting headache, not sure if it was from all the Estrogen & Progesterone or tension of the last week or so. DH has been great and I have not moved off the lounge all day.

Having a bit of me time today before we have to go and see his best friend's newborn this afternoon and try to show enthusiasm when I am feeling so crap.(They now have 2 children under 2)