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EmeraldStar - I really hope so but I guess that is the slightly anal retentive side of me that wants to be organised just in case, particularly if I will need to book an appointment a couple of months in advance. I guess I probably shouldn't get too ahead of myself and try and stay posative. :crossfingers: that attempt #2 will be a charm for both of us.
mitf - you were lucky enough to get some to freeze.....i have to go through the whole process again..and i worry i might not get any eggs make it to blast...then again i might and a few to freeze.....any which way you look at it, its daunting and stressful...i really do hope that the next time is a charm..we came sooooooo close the first time, that it's given me some hope. keep yourself busy...i also read on another site about women getting BFP within 3 attempts and the thing they all had in common was drinking lots of pineapple juice and eating fresh pineapple...apparently there is an enzyme in pineapples that supposedly helps with the embie attaching to the uterus....let's give it a go...i like pineapples anyway :D can't hurt.
EmeraldStar - I love pineapple too and yes it can't hurt.... it's a good thing that they are coming into season! I am willing to give anything a go and am starting with a new acupunturist next week. She is a little expensive but specialises in fertility treatment and is mean't to be excellent. I have also decided to go on a bit of a healthy eating detox and exercise program....particulary after my naughty weekend away of eating and drinking what ever I wanted (wouldn't hurt to loose a couple of kg's anyway). I really hope that cycle #2 is more sucessful and you get some embies to freeze. Hopefully your FS will have learn't a few things last time and will be able to alter your treatment to help your body respond better. We did come close last time.... hopefully it's a sign of good things to come.
:backtotopic: in light of what i wrote about pinapples helping implantation.....i decided to google for more info...and...there is alot of information saying "pineapples / juice can induce labour and / or cause miscarriages.....:wtf: this is toooooooooo confusing...you try to find something to help the process along and then comes the contradiction...this really sux!! Sometimes I wonder " how did women cope with TTC and pregnancy back in the day, when there were no books, internet, science etc... they did ok. :protest:
Why is it so hard for us with all this technology and science to get pregnant ??? I am starting to drive myself mad...sorry about the venting people..but it is one of those nights that Emerald JUST HAS TO VENT!!!! :boohoo:
mitf - yes my FS has changed my protocol... Still doing antagonist, but with Puregon instead of Gonal F, he has also upped my dosage (iu's)...and instead of the crinone progesterone support, i will be using injectibles (not sure what its called) but because of the chem pg, he thought maybe not enough support and that inecjections might be better for me....so FX this time works!!
EmeraldStar - I had a quick look in a couple of my fertility books and it does not say anything about pineapple juice, for or against... although it does say to avoid too much sugar which pineapple is high in. I guess it's like anything, good in moderation. GL with your new protocol. I have used Puregon in all my IUI /IVF treatments and it seems to be more widely used on these sites. Hopefully you will respond better to it. You might be using Pregnyl for your injectible prog support. I used that in both my IUI's but moved to Prog pesseries for the IVF. Try to stay positive :p ... you almost got their last time and hopefully a few changes is all you need to get over the line.
thanx mitf...i'll let you get some :asleep: talk soon...:)
Hi girls,
This is just a quick note.
Motherhood-Good luck today, I hope you get some good news that will help you to feel better.
Emeraldstar- I understand completely about the info out there, I have read all the same stuff about pineapple juice. For my iui I bought a huge supply, only to read that it may cause misscarriage, so didnt eat or drink it Aghhhhh.
I was also on pregnyl instead of the pressaries, just be aware they make you feel very pregnant! It is not a nice feeling esp when you are not.
Cass180- thanks for the advice about herbs, I have some now while I am on the pill, but will not be taking them during injection stage. Chinese Doctor assured me they wouldn't interfere, but don't want to risk the unknown.
Have a good day
Oh I hate IVF :doh:
Sorry Im having a particularly bad day today.
OK heard from my embryologist this morning. Today is day 2 and of my 5 eggs, 3 fertilized. Today 2 are 4 cells & 1 is 2 cells.
Doc said he would still prefer to do a 5 day transfer but embryologist said that its risky as the 3 might not go that far and has given me the option of day 3 transfer.
So Im going in tomorrow for a day 3 transfer......I asked about having the two 'good' one put back, to which I got a big fat NO :(
so thats me, sorry no personals I have been reading through, my head is just spinning to much right now
Tracey - sorry to hear that you are not doing well hon. I hope you fell better soon and you can try and stay positive on your TWW. I am pretty sure that a day 2 (or 48 hour embrios) should be at 3 or 4 cells so they sound ok to me. The 2 cell may catch up, my clinic always told me you have to take into account what time the embrios were checked versus what time they were actually fertilised.
So if they are not transferring the 2 x 4 cells, are they transferring 1 of the 4 cells or the 2 cell?
Hello lovely ladies!
Hope everyone is going well and saying sane. I must say, although I have posted much yet, it has definitely helps to read through what everyone else is going through.
Tracy - Good luck for tomorrow - hope it goes well :pray:
Emerald Star - I have no idea how people coped with this pre-internet, although I suspect having all this knowledge at my fingertips perhaps encourages me to obsessively read anything and everything and confuse myself even more...!
MITF - I've only just started ICSI/IVF but I would certainly recommend MIVF so far should you need it. I see Dr Kuhn and he's just lovely. FX you won't though
Krikkit - Hope you're feeling well after yesterday - sending :goodluck: your way
Cass180 - hope the 2ww is bearable for you
Wishes - Fingers crossed for tomorrow! I'm having my first acupuncture appointment tomorrow, you'll have to let me know if you think it helped!
Miss K - hope the jabs are going well :):lol: It's certainly funny to be wishing someone well for injecting themselves - only here would understand that!
Loops12 - Getting closer to see your FS again - hope you're keeping well till then!
Sonyalouise - thanks for the advice. I've decided to take the rest of the week off to recover and look after myself - I don't need any more stress in my life now thank you very much!!
AFM - just had first US and BT today. 5 follicles, one of which the FS referred to as a 'rouge' follicle as it was HUGE compared to the others. I don't know any of the measurements, but FS has upped my gonal-F to 225 and I now start on Orgalutran tonight. BT showed my hormones were fine so no need to start that one early thank goodness. Back on Monday for 2nd US. 5 doesn't seem a large number to me and my FS said he didn't think any more would develop before Monday, but hopefully one is all I need...
To all those in the 2WW - :bluedust::pink-babydust::bluedust::pink-babydust:
To anyone i've missed - apologies - there are more people in here than I really thought there would be! I hope you're all going well wherever you are in your cycles.
thanx Mitf, I imagine one of the four cells, I dont know they said they would transfer the best one, which of course makes sense....I just cant beleive how hard this whole thing is emotionally, but then I guess they pump us so full of hormones that cant help much, plus I havnt been to work all week lol.....that tends to keep me sane. Got too much time at home to think about stuff:wall:
Tracy - I too am sorry to hear your'e having a bad day.....just remember as gloomy as things may look...it may be a blessing in disguise. ;) ...i also know its easier said than done. As for the transferrence of two embies..my FS told me unless you are 39 or over or have had numerous unsuccessful IVF's they will transfer only 1 embie at a time...the maximum allowed is 2, but only if you fit into those categories. But you know, all it takes is one! Keep positive and we all have our fingers crossed for you.
Mitf - sorry to keep you up last nite :D but i was in the mood and well...you were there to listen. Thanks.
lise - 5 is great!! the way I look at it is some women can't get 1 sometimes....be thankful that something is happening in there as small as it may seem...and YES!! we all keep saying it only takes one! You never know. Keep your head up...you have done well! :clap:
As for everyone I've missed sorry..but i still wish you all LUCK!!!!
I wanna see some BFP's this month...so come on girls!!
Evening Ladies,
So an update on things for me.
Had another BT and Ultrasound this morning and I felt really happy when I left there because of what I saw. Obviously, being my first cycle I dont really know what Im looking at or understand. So here goes!!!! Things arent looking very good. Got the call this afternoon whilst I was at work. PGD Nurse told me that I have one Folicle on the right coming close to the right size and the rest on the right are too small to make it. She then told me that I have one of the left ovary already at 18mm and then a handful of others that are well behind it. I think the smallest we measured at US was 10mm. So, the news was I need to up my Puregon from 275 to 350 IUs and go in for a further US and BT on Saturday morning. What there hoping to happen is that all those other little follicles on my left Ovary have a growth burst over the next couple of days so to speak.
Was not happy to be hearing this because after seeing the little guys so to speak on the US this morning I was happy. The PGD Nurse however then had some more news. My FS had asked them to warn myself that IF after Sat Im still left with only the 2 follicles, we will be discussing cancelling the cycle. I was devastated to say the least. This is only our first cycle too. I tried my best to complete the phone call and then had to excuse myself from work and take a few minutes to have a cry. I couldnt help myself. I called DH and told him the news. Looking back he had the great attitude of well we will wait and see!!!
To be honest, at this point in time, Im so disapointed with my body. I try and think how on Tues morning the biggest follicle on the left was 13mm and now its 18mm as at this morning so hope in a way that the rest of the guys will do the same thing :pray::pray::pray:
Enough from me. Hope and Im sure that everyone else is doing much better than myself.:goodluck: to all and plenty of :bluedust::pink-babydust::stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:
motherhoo here i come - sorry to hear of your dilemma....i have to wonder though...you would think that they would rather risk losing 1 fantastic follicle in the hopes of getting the "handful" that are lagging behind. i certainly do not claim to know better than your FS, however during my first cycle i had 1 at 22mm and the rest were ranging between 12mm and 18mm and my FS said he would rather lose the 22mm in hopes that we get more by waiting for the others to catch up. makes sense to me :think:
I also think sometimes that FS's try to be diplomatic and not get our hopes up ( just in case) but i personally think that they should wait and say it when they absolutely have to...until then, give us hope!
Stop stressing as this will only affect your growing follies..and i'm sure you will prove FS wrong and you will have some great follies on Saturday...stay positive and great things will happen. ;)
sorry Ive been on such a downer today girls, Im feeling a little brighter this evening. I think the attitude of my clinic saying "its only your first cycle" like they really dont expect it to work is whats getting to me.
Motherhood here I come- I am sorry hun, how disapointing, but the fact they are upping your Puregon they must have some hope of it working ((hugs)) I know just how hard it is though, I truly hope you get excellent results at your next us
Lise- sorry I went to reply to you earlier and hit the wrong button:redface: They only saw 4 follies on my us before pickup and then got 5 eggs. Yeah not as good as I had hoped, but hopefully all we need
Hey Motherhood
So sorry to hear your news too. I just can not imagine how I would deal with news like that - esp when at work. I imagine you would feel really empty and confused.
However, my first reaction was to think that surely more will catch up and then it will still be OK to do an EPU. Reading what Emerald said seems to make some sense to me too.... I have only done 1 cycle so have not heard of what she said - but I would be mentioning this to my FS if the cancelling discussion comes up again.
I know it is really easy to say, so hard to do but you must try not to let it worry you too much. Your body will do what your body will do but you have to do everything you can to support it now and stressing won't help.
Hugs to you and lots of growing vibes. I hope its good news we here from you after Saturday.
Tracy - GL for ET tomorrow. I totally hear you on the "having a crap day" and having to deal with this emotional roller coaster. I'm only first cycle and today thought I just don't know how people cope going through this time and time again. I know we all do what you gotta do - but it must be so draining.
Night ladies
Tracy - Sometimes I think people can be so inconsiderate about our feelings.....i usually brush them off....try not to let it get to you. If you don't mind me asking "how old are you?" (sorry i don't think its on your signature)
Nix76 - whats happening??????????