Wishes... What an AMAZING (jaw-dropping) result. Fingers crossed that you get heaps of blasties!!! I'm sure that such a great result will help you in your recovery.
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Wishes... What an AMAZING (jaw-dropping) result. Fingers crossed that you get heaps of blasties!!! I'm sure that such a great result will help you in your recovery.
Wishes - WOW!!! What a great result :D Regarding your cancelled cycle though - I hope your head well and truly leaves the 'TTC' headspace so you can come back totally refreshed.
Loops12 - :crossfingers: your unwellness (is that a word??) are signs of PG!
Tracy - Will be sending :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl: your way so you can have the bestest birthday ever.
Nix76 - hope you're keeping distracted enough. I know what you mean about questions from others - i've become a recluse in the last week and thinking of all sorts of elaborate excuses to explain my non-drinking. When/if the time comes I think i'll just say i'm 'getting myself ready'...! What do other people usually do/say???
Mummawannbe - sorry to hear about the OHSS. Hope you're resting well and staying positive.
Seph - I'm with Emerald Star, i'm pretty sure we'd ALL secretly, and not so secretly, love twins. Definitely an answer to our prayers - will :pray: for you.
Motherhood here I come - hope you're staying positive. Whatever happens, you know you're not alone here :grouphug:
Mitf - the acupuncture was great! I honestly didn't think i'd feel the effects so soon but I felt so relaxed during and afterwards, will definitely be going back for more.
AFM - just waiting for my 2nd US on Monday and hoping that will be trigger day as i'm getting sick of sticking things into my stomach ;)
Quick question about acupuncture actually - the acupuncture clinic has recommended I go in after the EPU as well as pre/post the ET, depending on timing of course. I've read lots about acupuncture and ET - has anyone else had it done after the EPU???
Hope everyone is going well and enjoying the weekend.
lise xx
Hi ladies,
Hope you are all having a relaxing weekend.
Wishes-29 fertilsed what an amazing result:crossfingers:they progress nicely. I know in the month off I had off before ivf was great. It was a relief to not have to worry about the process and just to live normally.
Loops-:pray:I hope you are pregnant.
Persephone-DH and I are seriously thinking about transferring 2 embryos depending on our EPU results. He is twin and would really like to have twins alsp.
Tracey- :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:
AFM- I got a call from the nurse today and was told I could start the lucrin on the tenth, yay finally starting.
:help: I have a question for all those ladies who have had egg pick ups. My FS mentioned that they grade the embryos from 1-5.
Does anyone know how they correlate to the cell division? I have read many of you talk about 2 cells, 4 cells and 8 cells. My FS says grade 1-3 are good for freezing, grades 4 and 5 can be transferred fresh but don't survive freezing. Was just wondering if the grades refer to the number of cells.
Hope you all have a lovely day tomorrow.
Lise-I am sorry I forgot to say good luck on Monday, hope they do the trigger for you.:pray:
Evening Ladies,
Well a quick update for you all. AM not feeling the best this evening.
So DH and I went in nice and early this morning for my US and BT (Had to try twice this morning as they couldnt get the first one :( ) with FX that we would find my little follies had done what we wanted them to do and that is grown.
Cut a long story short. Got the call from the PGD Nurse this afternoon. Because of the fore warning on Thurs about the possibility of cancelling, found it kind of tough over the past couple of days not to mention even tougher to try and keep my mind busy today. Anyway, she let me know that the US results were no real different than that on Thursday. 1 Follicle at 18mm and two at 16mm and a hole heap others well below that. The good thing I thought though was that at the US this morning, Uterus lining was 13mm!!!! So I was provided 2 options. 1, continue with my injections and go for another BT and US on Monday in the hopes that the others had had a growth spurt or 2, I trigger today and we cancel the cycle because of poor performance. Had a chat with DH and then called back with an answer. After much discussion, we decided to cancel our very first cycle :((. My theory was that were there for IVF, ICSI, PGD so that means there were alot of odds that those 3 had to make it through, FOr starters, they had to be viable, then fertilise (ICSI) and then after that make it to day 5 blastie and then make it through PGD with flying colours. Deep down, I didnt really think that the follies would respond well by Monday and then we would be crossing the same path as now and making a decision then. I mean, with the big up in my dossage I was given on Thursday to today didnt really seem to make a difference to the little follies. From what I could see, maybe only one kind of responded. So called the Nurse and advised her of our decision, as heart breaking as it was.
Instructions - Trigger at any time today (I did it at 6.30pm, had no prob snapping the vials etc but man oh man did it hurt as I injected, not to mention its quite a thick solution to inject) Store all left over meds in the fridge ready for our next cycle which were going to start ASAP. Nurse will send out another pack for myself which includes the next script for Lucrin and cycle diary etc. Need to wait for AF again!!!!! Once AF arrives, call the clinic, start the OCP and off on our way again for try number 2. FX hey we have success. FS has said that at next cycle, I will be started on a higher dose of FSH to begin with.
So have decided that starting next week, am going to start Accupuncture treatments and will continue these all through the cycle. Am also going on a bigger health kick. Walking everyday etc, etc. Anyone have any experience with Accupuncture. Am hoping it helps to keep myself calm :) Am definately going to be positive all the time now. At least I know what to expect. Glass is half full attitude hey!!!
Thats it for me. Will definately continue to lurk around and keep up with your ladies progress but hopefully before too long, will be back in here.
Sorry for the long post, just helps to get it all out especially where I have others who know and understand what it is were going through.
FX for all in 2ww and good luck for EPU. Wishes can i just say, your numbers are fantastic and I hope to follow in your footsteps!
Lise ~ thanks for your positive thoughts - although I don't think im pg yet, today i think its just a cold but I did ovulate yestie and dtd at the right time so now FX - you never know I suppose and it did happen naturally for Janeo on BB following an IVF cycle.
GL with the jabbing and all the best for tomorrow! I had accupuncture after EPU - well not straight after but oh it was good!
Sonjalouise ~ thanks for your encouragement also - dont think I am pg at this stage but you never know.
So happy for you that you are getting things started! Sorry I can't help with your q., I don't know anything about the cells etc either and I too would be interested to know.
Motherhood ~ so sorry you had to go through all that and make such a hard decision. Sounds like you made a very wise one, will give your body a bit of a break. And its great you can try again so soon. Feeling for you hun! :hug::comfort: Hang in there and all the very best for round 2.
wishes- wow that is amazing, shame about having to wait, but what an amazing number of eggs
Persephone1- best of luck to you hun FX you get your blasties
Loops- hope your feeling better soon
Lise- GL for your us tomorrow and I hope you can take your trigger
Motherhoodhereicome- Hugest (((((hugs)))))) to you, that must have been such a hard a decsision to make. Wishing you all the very best for next cycle
SonyaLouise- Im sorry I cant help with your question all I was told was the cell devision. I have actually found my clinic to be very much well....this is the way it is, this is what we want you to do, dont ask anything technical kwim?
Like they will answer most questions but they treat us like we wouldnt understand if they told us what we are asking for therefore they dont. Ive felt a bit put off by that, but have mostly bit my tongue.
My anethatist when I had EPU was the only person yet that I have really felt has respected the fact that I am actually a nurse and do understand the technical terms & such:rolleyes:
AFM- I feel great, I am feeling really positive about everything at this point. Although I am a little upset as just now I rang to find out how my embies are (its day 5) and wether they made it to blasties and being frozen but the embryologists had gone home early:doh:
Hey all...
Melttc - I Also wondering how do all the IVF stuff, work full time and manage to appear as normal functioning adults (without going loopy)
Tracey and Krikkit - Great results :) and well Wishes WOW 34 eggs! You will be starting up your own factory - good work.
Emerald Star - Pinapple juice huh? May try it out but perhaps not go overboard.. everything in moderation - I think this is why you see so many discrepancies in these things as someone probably went nuts and ate pinapple all day and had adverse reactions. I will check my text books for any more info on it.
Persephone - Good luck on your transfer
Loops - yes it sure ain't cheap. My DH and I will be re-checking our finances also to see if we can do another this year.
The stickiest fuzziest vibes to starbright, Cass and everyone else doing the 2WW.
Motherhood... I possibly understand your situation a little more. We are also doing PGD with our IVF and also were also given thumbs up for fertility. We had a good collection but only 2 made it to 'qualification stage' and well DEEP BREATH...
I got my period this morning - so looks like its gonna be a big fat no for me :( I was pretty upset and of course it had to happen on father's day :doh: and I was away with all my family who had been very excited as it's taken us two years to get to this point... all in all a pretty crappy day.
But my lovelies there is always tomorrow...
Lookin ahead
Onja- I'm so sorry sweetie. Thanks for the well wishes.
Tracy- I'm so sorry they didn't ring you before they left. That is so wrong.
MHIC- so sorry about your disappointment. Do you have a plan of action for your next cycle yet?
Sonya- Sorry I can't help. My clinic gives me very little info about my Embies.
Lise- I started acupuncture after my first cycle, so I didn't get to use it at EPU, however, I highly recommend it. It really helped me be calm and relaxed pre & post ET. I have been going once a week for about 2 and 1/2 months. Love it!
Wishes- Super effort! Keep drinking and rest up :)
AFM- I'm going to POAS tomorrow! I'm mentally prepared for a negative though!
Hi Ladies,
MotherhoodHereI come - I am so sorry to hear that your cycle has been cancelled. Disappointments like this can be so heart breaking. Sounds like you and DH have made the right decision under the circumstances, plus at least your FS has a plan for the next cycle and hopefully you will respond better from the outset. I have tried acupuncture, although I wasn't overly impressed with the 2 practitioners I have seen so far. Trying a 3rd acupuncturist tomorrow who specialises in infertility and I have also started a health kick this wend. We will have to keep each other motivated!
Onja - so sorry to hear that AF has arrived. I hope you are felling better soon. X
Wishes - wow 29 little embie. Congratulations that is amazing. I can't wait to hear how they have progressed over the wend. I hope the bloating is subsiding and you are felling better soon.
Sonjalouise - sorry can't help with your embie grading question. I have never heard of that before. Will have to ask my clinic about that on my next cycle.
Lise - glad to hear the acupuncture went well. I had a session prior to EPU but not after. All the best for you scan & BT tomorrow.
Loops - all the best with your natural TWW. I guess DH and I are doing the same this cycle, although I am not sure how the IVF drugs will effect my natural rhythm which has always been pretty good. I bought one of those maybe baby things a while ago but I could never seem to get it to work properly. FX that we might both get a miracle.... as you say no harm in trying!
Tracy - I can't believe they didn't call to tell you the results .... how rude! They should be more understanding that of course would like to know the results ASAP! All the best for the rest of your TWW.
Starbright, Cass, Nix, krikkit and anyone else I have missed all the best for the remainder of your TWW.
AFM - started a bit of a health kick this weekend in the lead up to my FET next cycle. Went for a swim Sat and a ride today, plus am trying to eat really healthy. Hope to loose a couple of kg's and get my energy levels back to what they where before all this TTC business.
mitf xo
Hi Ladies,
My, there has been a hype of activity this past week:
Wishes: WOW and congrats on the 34 eggs! You deserve a break after that tremendous effort! Heres hoping you come back refreshed and rearing to go for the next stage of your cycle!
Krikkit, Cass180, Nix76, Starbright - you are more than half way through your 2WW - hope it's not too nerve wracking and you are all surviving. I have my :crossfingers: and toescrossed for you all!
Starbright - GL on your POAS tomorrow! :bluedust:
Tracey - glad to hear the ET went well last week - hope you get the BFP result on your b'day. I too was hoping to get PG last month to coincide with my 35th b'day but it was not to be. GL with the TWW :crossfingers: and toes crossed for you too!
Loops12: I hope you are PG too :crossfingers:! An interesting fact to learn that you are quite fertile after completing a cycle.
MotherhoodhereIcome: Sorry to hear your treatment was cancelled. Hope you are doing ok :hug:
Lise - :welcome: hope your BT/US goes well on Monday and your follies are ready for your trigger tommorow as you wish.
Persephone: I am with you sister, twins would be an ideal situation. My DH and I seriously thought about this, but I understand that you have to be atleast 38 before they even consider transferring two embies??
Sonjalouise: Lucrin on the 10th hey, good to hear your IVF cycle is progressing. I visit the nurse on Wednesday - so who knows what's next for me.
Onja ? Sorry to hear that AF arrived today. I usually crack open a bottle of wine and have a few glasses and that usually helps me feel better for a few hours anyway. It's good to remain positive despite these setbacks and move on to the next month which it seems you have already done. :hug:
AFM: I have not made a decision yet about telling my manager about starting IVF. I was going to wait and see how my visit with the nurse goes on Wednesday to get an idea of how often I will have to visit the clinic etc. However, I believe I am going to have to mention something as my manager is planning overseas business trips for me at the end of the year.
Hope everyone has a great week!
Me 35 :kiss: DH 32 & 1 cheeky furbaby
TTC since Nov 07
IVF#1 - Aug/Sept - First nurse visit on Wednesday
Tracy ~ thanks, im managing to keep this cold at bay. So great you are feeling so positive!
Onja ~ I really hope you can afford to do another one this year 2. Im so sorry the "witch" arrived. :hug:. Its great you're looking ahead, GL with your next cycle.
Star-bright ~ I hope you're wrong and you do get a BFP. I know what its like though, you dont want to get your hopes up too much. GL and I have my FX for you!
Mitf ~ thanks so much hun. Im thinking the hormones will stuff me up too - they certainly did after IUI.
With the Maybe Baby - perhaps you got a dud but Ive had a little trouble now and again with mine 2. Just make sure though u let it dry properly (10 mins) and that you don't have too much on it. GL and all the best with your health kick!
Metttc ~ thanks, that is good to know - here's hoping I have been very fertile the last few days! All the best for your 1st IVF cycle coming up and GL with your work - hope all works out for the best!
I'm out!
I didn't need to POAS today. I took my temp this morning and it had dropped.
2 hours later, AF arrived.
I've had a really good cry- to the point where I gave myself a massive headache.
I left work so I can mope for the rest of today and will pull myself together tomorrow.
Also,
Not sure if anyone remembers but I had a really bad transfer. He couldn't get the catheter in and it really hurt. Well,
I just got off the phone with FS and after the transfer he made a note in my file about it. I guess he knew (suspected) it wasn't going to work. He told me he wants to do a trial transfer next month. That means an extra month of waiting. I don't know what to think at the moment. My emotions are very raw. Just wanted to share.
SB
Starbright - so sorry to hear that AF has arrived. :hug: These things are never easy and just plain unfair! I hope you are feeling better soon and wish you all the best for your next attempt. What does a trial transfer involve?
mitf xo
~Star-bright~ what does a trial transfer involve?
Does your clinic offer sedated transfer? I have to go under aneasthetic when I have mine cause its too uncomfortable for me and I don't like it at all. Last transfer they couldnt get an anesthatist in on a Saturday for me - I offered to "try" to do it without any sedation - and was basically told no- because its a known fact that if the transfer is traumatic it wont work.
Hi Ladies, just a quick one...
MHIC - so sorry and DITTO what everyone else said. A tough decision for you, esp first cycle. :grouphug:
Starbright - more :grouphug: 's for you. That is exactly what I am dreading later this week - well what we all dread. I can't imagine how I am going to cope so I think you having a flat day is fair and reasonable. I would be cracking a bottle of vino too!
Lise - I had been saying to people for ages that I was just prepping myself by not drinking - wanting to get my body in good shape and all! But that was around Xmas so - its hard to use that anymore! So now that a lot of our friends probably think we are trying based on that - I just don't go there with that discussion anymore! I guess it's also more now we don't want people to know cos its taking so long and of course now having to take our course of action (IVF). Now that it is a different 'ball game' to what we thought it would be, we feel more restricted about who we want to know that we are trying cos it just adds so much more pressure with people expecting you to announce that you have joined them in the having children part of life. It's damn hard when so many people around you have kids. But anyway - all in our own time with what is right for us I guess!
Hi and hugs to all others - hope you are travelling well. :hug:
AFM - had a terribly emotional day yesterday, my eyes sting today from all the tears and I too gave myself a headache last night. I think it is the 2WW headspin and the crinone progesterone crap playing with my body. I dunno if you ladies found the first cycle and wait the hardest but I just can't imagine having to go through this time and time again.
I know we do what we gotta do, but now I just feel so drained. Anyway - only a few days left to wait. Just feeling very down like I already know it will be a negative - and I know that is not helpful and not the way I should be trying to feel. But what can you do!
(starting to think you ARE all on to something with the whole Twins thing though. DP has always thought it would be great & I have been against it but i think I am starting to turn!!! )
Starbright: :comfort: I am so sorry to hear AF arrived hun. :hug: I was really hoping this would be your cycle. I now remember what you said about your transfer. Fingers crossed the FS is able to work something out for you so it is not so bad next time. I'm with Nix, open up a nice bottle of vino just for you. :grouphug:
Hi all,
Just want to start by saying a massive big thankyou to each and everyone of your for your kind words of comfort. Since the idea was put on the table last thursday till even last night laying in bed, has definately been a rough few days.
Ladies I know what you mean about the tears. I managed to cry myself to sleep last night and over the weekend managed to also cry myself into a monster headache. I too also came home today, not because of being upset but because Im ovulating at the moment after having the trigger Sat night @ 6.30pm and boy am I so uncomfortable and in a bit of pain. Thought it best to come home and rest up on the couch this arvo and tackle tomorrow, tomorrow. Pains not too bad just so uncomfortable!!!
Star Bright - Plan of Action!!! Took my trigger on Sat evening and so now need to wait for AF to arrive!!! In the mean time the PGD Nurse at the clinic told me that she will get together another pack for myself which will have a new script for Lucrin, new script for OCP and my new cycle diary. In the mean time though, she did remind myself that when AF does arrive, be sure to give them a call so we can put the dates into the cycle diary. Then we need to go through the whole cycle again. This time however FS has told me that we will without a doubt be starting on a higher level of FSH this time.
As heartbreaking as it was to make the decision Its hard to turn the emotions off and oh so dissapointing for this to happen first go. FX that the FS learnt from this failed first cycle. I suppose also looking at it Im greatful that DH and I have the financial capability at this point in time to do another cycle straight away.
Im determined to be extremely positive this second time. No more looking back only looking forward, no more glass is half empty attitidue, glass is half full!!! Even called an Accupuncturist this morning whose details I got from an old thread on here and have my first appointment with him on Wednesday.
Best get back to resting.
Thanks for listening/reading my rants ladies. Its very much appreciated.