Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception August/September 2012

I don't temp Juniper. I just assume I have ovulated after getting a positive opk and a day or so of ewcm.

N2L, yeah, I'll probably end up still putting O day as Monday, I just like confirmation. When the signs don't align I can't help but have some doubt about them. I was just hoping today's would be a nice high one since yesterday's was sort of halfway there... Oh well, if this is another BFN then at least next cycle will be monitored by the FS (natural FET). I'll just do my normal at home monitoring too and see how they line up. That should help me better interpret the home stuff in later cycles.

*edit* Also, I only had the tiniest bit of EWCM this cycle, so it has been very atypical. Sorry if this is TMI, but I debated whether to even mark it on the chart because it was literally one strand of it and nothing more.

Ah men, why do they get like that, especially around O?

Juniper, I don't usually mark it as the cm for the day when it is only a tiny bit of ewcm, but I make a note in the notes section just in case.

N2L I hope the tww goes quickly and easily for you.

I had a few stressful moments today, my boss called and asked if I would go to China for a week to run some training, right in the middle of our first IVF cycle (he doesn't know what We are doing, just that I am having a "medical procedure" during my holidays in October. Yet again it looked like a choice between career and family. Fortunately, I called the FS and found out my dates for BT and as lOng as I am able to cut a few days off the end of the trip it could be perfct timing. My boss agreed, happily, to send me just for the three days instead of 7. I am determined to have it all. DH is stoked coz it means I'll be away for the injections and he won't have to do any.

Sadly I also learned my uncle passed away last night. I'm heading home for a nice glass of wine while I can have it.

miloro, sorry to hear of your uncle's passing. The trip to China sounds fun. Good to hear it looks like you can work it into the schedule!

Miloro - Sorry also to hear of your uncle passing. And China does sound fun!

Juniper - I have never temped, so cant offer any advice, but it will be good to have them track you and see how you line up.

N2L - Thanks for the heads up on the Coq10. I got more today.

Hi Mrs Mac & Andie - Hope your both going ok in your cycles. Cant wait to hear numbers next week x

AFM - We had our FS appointment today. He came to Lincoln which was nice. We spoke about doing another stim cycle and he says we can go ahead, but was saying that realistically we have a 20% chance of getting a baby out of all of this. Time is not my friend. I agree. Unfortunately. I bought up Elonva which he promptly poo pood it. He said that our issue is chromosonal and it wouldn't help that. I also asked about ICSI and again he poo pood it. And after hearing him say its better to do what we can naturally we agreed. After saying our chances are slim, he then went on to say had we thought about switching clinics. He works out of both clinics. The new one he is suggesting is private and i dont have private health, but he said that they are subsiding some patients and although we would be out of pocket a bit more than our current clinic, he says that the new clinic is having great result and better results than our current clinic, and has a lot better lab facilities. He said that there is no guarantee but thinks it would be worth a try. Is he just after more of our money??? He said that he could organise our records to go to the new one, so at least it would not be a restart. I really love the nurses at our clinic and not too sure how I feel about switching. Has anyone changed and been better off?

Hi to everyone else. MissB, myturn (who I know is quietly stalking) me4ever, J Bear.

Vic - Hmmm that's a bit weird, him working for both clinics and saying one clinic is better than the other?! It sucks when you have to make a decision like this as who knows if it will help. I think I'd stay with last clinic if you like the nurses, you never know what you'd get with the new one. And you did get pregnant last time, so maybe your body is ready for it and it would be possible to get pregnant again?! Good luck with the decision. Hugs as well, and no AF yet??

Miloro - welcome and sorry about your uncle's passing..

Mrs Mac - how is it going? Hope all will go well and you'll get your BFP in September!

Hi to everyone else!

Hi ladies just a quickie to say hi to all!

Vic that is a bit strange I would agree with me4ever stick with what you know and if ur happy with the nurses don't change it. I'm not sure why he wouldn't want to increase ur numbers by doing icsi? It is difficult because I think it comes down to the FS opinion.

AFM AF is here! I'm CD02 : ) yay

Will log in tonight and write a proper post.

Emma good luck with your transfer today

Thanks :)

Good luck Emma. Enjoy the TWW x

AFM - AF is finally in da house. Woop woop !!! Sad really. I was ever so happy at 4.30am this morning. So here we are back on the TTC train. DH and I talked last night and decided to stick with our current clinic. Basically its a numbers game for us and we need to be able to afford to have as many cycles as we can, so cheaper is better for us. My FS said basically that we are getting good numbers, good fertilisation rates, its just the chromosones issues of 41 year old eggs and we cant see that either clinic will be able to help with that. It would still be the same FS so its not like a new one would be trying different things. As for ICSI JBear we have great fertilisation rates almost 100% and he says nature knows what its doing then better than an embrologist picking a sperm just by looking at it. DH has great sperm so thats not our issue. We are all praying like crazy that one (or both) of our frosties becomes earthside.

Yay for Vic's AF!!! Fingers crossed for the coming FET!!

Good luck with your transfer Emma!

:goodluck:Thursday 30th August 2012 :goodluck:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Vic261 - CD1
J.Bear - CD2
Andie - CD8
miloro - CD10
Mrs Mac - CD12
Me4ever - CD12


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/...ek-Wait-2012-6)
Juniper - CD32 3dpo (lap cycle)
N2L - CD23 3dpo
Emma - CD21 0dp?dt
Kerbear - CD26 8dp2dt (b/t 7 Sep)

Got Their BFP in August :confetti:
myturn – 2/8/12 HCG = 46, 6/8/12 HCG = 196!!, 9/8/12 HCG = 544!!
Larry - 7/8/12 HCG 672!!
Freya - HCG 1660 @5wks, u/s 30/8 :heartbeat: 110bpm

...Aaaaaand, another stupid low temp today, but FF gave me crosshairs, so I'm calling it... At this stage I just want to get to next cycle to do some monitoring.

GL Emma and Freya! Hope you both have success with your appointments.

Emma, I hope your ET went well. Congrats on being PUPO and stick little embie stick!!!! :pray:

Vic, I think you should at least do the elonva cycle. You have nothing to lose! My FS says he's seen great improvements in the egg quality/embryo quality on this drug. Why does your FS say that you have a chromosomal issue? Is he basing this statement on your last m/c? If so, that should not be the case. Plenty of women have m/c with a chromosomal issue, young and old! Unless one has a recurrent m/c where there has been testing on the products, or one has testing done on the embies before they go in and there is a chromosomal issue, an isolated m/c is not a reason to conclude there is a chromosomal problem. Like I said, you have nothing to lose with the new drug, but lots to gain from the studies and runs they have done with it. GL in your next cycle hun :)

Juniper, does that mean you've O'd? GL in catching that egg hun x

Yay for those that have gotten AF to get the ball rolling and GL to those who have O'd. Will be keeping my fingers crossed for you all :crossfingers::crossfingers::crossfingers:

AFM, still sick here :( And the little one being sick as well doesn't help, as I feel like I need to curl into a ball and ride it out in bed, but I have someone else to look after...poo bum. I think I am whingeing lots more than DS, my DF says I'm worse than a child :rolleyes:. This winter has been the worst for me so far, I've been sick more than I've been well :o

Poppin in again.

Good luck Emma!

Vic that's a really good fert. rate, i see what he's saying there.

MissB - I dont think he will let me try the Elonva :( His thought is that since there is nothing they can find wrong with me and being 41 it must be chromosomal. :dunno: He says its just a numbers game and hopefully we hit the jackpot with a perfect embryo. His thought is always that if the embryo is not 100% it wont be viable. Since I have eggs, DH has great sperm, my uterus looks good and clean, it must be whats in the egg. I am just hoping that with another pipelle biopsy, no caffeinne and watching my hormone leves (through diet & exercise) my FET will work and another stim wont be an issue. :pray:

Vic - Regarding the "chromosomal issue" I assume he is referring to age issues. At 45, about 80 per cent of our eggs are chromosomally abnormal. Not sure what it is at 41 or so but i am guessing it's 50 per cent or so. Sucks.

Vic, are you saying he thinks anything less than top grade is pointless? If that were true we wouldn't have DD. They don't need to be perfect, they just need to be chromosomally normal. It's hard to be just waiting for the right egg (and scares the blazes out of me that we'll never get the right one). It's kind of like sitting at a pokie machine for months/years on end waiting for that jackpot... (hopefully with better odds though)

Miss.B, I'm guessing I've O'd, but that it's a weak one. I'm just not getting that nice clear thermal shift to indicate good progesterone levels.

Bump me up to the graduate list; saw a beautiful little heartbeat at 100bpm :dance:

Congrats Freya!!

Yay freya!

Emma sending sticky vibes.

Thanks all for the knd thoughts. It has been an up and down week. Last night DH got drunk and said no to IVF this cycle. Turns out he was worried about me trying to squeeze too much in and didn't want me stressing. Honestly I would stress more if I felt I wasn't doing anything proactive. All good now, just counting down the days.

Congrats freya in your graduation from here, enjoy the rest of the pregnancy.

There is so much going on in here and I am on my phone so won't do persies, just know I am reading everything and thinking of you all and where you are at.
Missb I hope you start to feel better really soon, I am sorry to hear winter has got the better or you with all your sickness...damn bugs!!!

I hope you all get to move into tww soon xo

:goodluck:Friday 31st August 2012 :goodluck:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Myturn - :angel:
Vic261 - CD2
J.Bear - CD3
Blossom - CD7
Andie - CD9
Miloro - CD11
Mrs Mac - CD13
Me4ever - CD13


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/...ek-Wait-2012-6)
Juniper - CD33 4dpo (lap cycle)
N2L - CD24 4dpo
Emma - CD22 1dp5dt (b/t 10 Sep)
Kerbear - CD27 9dp2dt (b/t 7 Sep)

Got Their BFP in August :confetti:
Larry - 7/8/12 HCG 672!!
Freya - HCG 1660 @5wks, u/s 30/8 :heartbeat: 110bpm

Hey lovely girls. Hope you are all well.

Looks like I am back here as I am currently holding an angel :(

Spoke to FS today and will call hhim back be next week to arrange D&C but just thought it would be good to he back on the list appropriately :(

Will probably try au natural for a few months and try to lose some weight. Again. Bleugh.
Xox

Myturn, I'm so sorry to hear about your loss. My thoughts are with you guys.

myturn, I'm so sorry to hear that. If you've not had a d&c before (or even if you have), feel free to PM me if you want someone to talk to. :hug:

It sad that this thread seems to be getting a harder place to be in these days. Too many of us are back here after recently losing our angels, and far too many of us have been here far too long. It sad when one of us gets to graduate only to be suffer a horrible loss and have to start all over again. Thank god we have each other. To everyone who helped me recently, to everyone that PM me to check I was Ok and to everyone still investing in my story I am forever grateful. Even though we have not met IRL I feel like you know a lot more about me that my IRL friends. I feel I can be myself on here and wont be judged, just endlessly hugged. Thanks girls, you make this journey bareable xxx

I know Vic, I feel exactly the same hun :hug:

Myturn, I wish you didn't have to come back in here hun, totally sucks. But you know we are all here for you :hug: I'm sorry you're little blob had to leave :crying:

Myturn, I'm so sorry for your loss. Biggest hugs :comfort:

Just this morning i was thinking how it feels like some people just have it so easy, why can't the ones who struggle to have things that most people take for granted, get a little break now and then!

Vic you definitely hit the nail on the head, while
I was away and just checking in so many of you got you good news and it is so sad to see that change to heartache for many of you. I am glad we can be here for each other and help those of you that have lost your angels.
I have shed a lot of tears for you all whenever there is sad news as I feel so close to you all even though we have never met.

My turn - thinking of you always, sending you lots of strength to help you over the coming weeks. Very sad to see you back in this thread :-(

Vic, well said. I'm forever grateful for the friends I have made on my TTC journey. Of course, I wish none of us had to walk such a hard path, but I'm still grateful to meet such amazing women. :grouphug:

Hi girls jumping back in here again I'm CD7 back on Ivf wagon for 11th time finding it very emotional this time round feels like groundhog day. Hormones making me sooo tired and crazy as well doesn't help things with DH!
Back on Monday for scan so fingers crossed see some great follies.

Myturn so sorry to hear your news thinking of u, such a hard ride and so cruel sometimes x
Everyone else hope u all having nice start to weekend x

another :grouphug: i think vic & the other ladies put it nicely, it certainly is a relief to come in here and chat/share/obsess about all things ltttc & ivf. it makes the whole process a lot easier when you know that people actually get what you are talking about. im not sure if i started talking all things cervical muccous & progesterone pessaries with colleagues/friends that i would get the same acceptance & knowledge i get in here...

myturn - im so sorry for your loss. you have lots of support in here & any time you want to talk/pm, just let us know. take care this weekend. :hug:

vic - im glad af finally showed up for you & that you and your dh have decided on a plan. fingers crossed this is your lucky last stim. xx

emma - missed saying congrats on your transfer, goodluck. :goodluck:

miss b - sorry you are still sick, that sucks... hope you get some quiet time this weekend to recover.

freya - congrats & best wishes.

hi juniper, n2l & everyone else - hope you have a relaxing weekend. :)

blossom - hi! sorry i missed you, thought i was doing so well getting so many msg's in to everyone... i am doing a stim atm too, cd 9 and had my scan today. FS is happy with progress & epu booked for tuesday. i hear you on the groundhog day... next transfer will be no. 10 for me. eeek. i hope your scan goes well monday, let us know. xx

Hi Again Everyone!!!

Juniper - I dont know how that welcome back thing popped up....LOL but thanks for the welcome!! I have ET in the morninbg at 10am...excited!!! Ill let you know what they put back once I know.

Everyone else - I have to get familiar with your stories as i go along....but to everyone GOOD LUCK...

Good luck today emerald star, I hope you little embie is a sticky one.


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Hey Andie good luck for Tuesday fingers crossed u get some great eggs!
Good luck today Emerald Star, welcome back!
AFM Im really srarting to wonder if it's ever going to happen! I have 2 more goes as we r using donor sperm we have 2 lots left and can't get anymore of the same one thanks to someone bringing in some pathetic rule!
Just praying a miracle occurs soon. The drugs really knocking me around this time.
Miss B, Juniper, miloro, Kerbear, Mrs Mac, J Bear hi girls will have to catch up on what's happening in here, hope u having nice weekend x

Good luck emerald star see you over in the tww.

Hi blossom I hope you don't need to worry about the pathetic rule and the ones you have are enough for you to get a bfp :-)

Andie - crossing my fingers for you that Tuesday brings you lots of good eggies.

:goodluck:Saturday 1st September 2012 :goodluck:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Myturn - :angel:
Vic261 - CD3
J.Bear - CD4
Blossom - CD8
Andie - CD10
Miloro - CD12
Mrs Mac - CD14
Me4ever - CD14


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums/...ek-Wait-2012-6)
Emerald Star - CD?? 0dp5dt
Juniper - CD34 5dpo (lap cycle)
N2L - CD25 5dpo
Emma - CD23 2dp5dt (b/t 10 Sep)
Kerbear - CD28 10dp2dt (b/t 7 Sep)

Got Their BFP in September :confetti:
Freya - HCG 1660 @5wks, u/s 30/8 :heartbeat: 110bpm (leaving you here for now because you deserve a little more time in the graduate list ;))

Emerald Star, hope your transfer went well! You can find a link to the 2ww thread in the list post just above this one.

Blossom, FX you have success with the 2 samples you have left.

Andie, I had to LOL at the mental image of talking about some of those things with friends/colleagues!