our furgrandbabies still arent here yet :( another vet trip yesterday arvo.progesterone was down to 12.3 i think so vet said she is close plus she was dilating.hoping they will be here today/tonight but no contractions yet.
our furgrandbabies still arent here yet :( another vet trip yesterday arvo.progesterone was down to 12.3 i think so vet said she is close plus she was dilating.hoping they will be here today/tonight but no contractions yet.
Trubabe, was thinking of your dog last night wondering how it was, hope she has her healthy pups soon! Do you have any idea how many she is having?? I think it's great! Your TWW is giong to fly because you will have those little guys to keep your mind buisy!
Dunno why but I have never made it the TWW without POAS! I don't have any self controll when it comes to the end of a cycle! But I have promised myself to wait until BT with the IVF, cuz I did get quite a few fake positives the first 2 IUI's as Pregnyl was still in my system 7DP 1500iu.
Nix76 sending you strength to last the last week babe X First week is the hardest and you have past that, on the downward slope now X
Babytruj sounds like we are first timers together! So excited and scared at the same time! After all of the dissapointment of IUI's, I really have my hopes high with this.
Those lucerin inj sound a bit stingy to me..do you give them yourself or does DH do yours?
Juniper sorry I'm not much help ATM with things, am still learning all of the IVF jargon and not familiar with the meds yet X
Your follies have had one HUGE growth spurt though good going! Is it the same as IUI? Do they like them to be b/w 19-25+ ??
Good luck and I will be thinking of you on Monday XXX
(youll have to tell me what the egg pick up is like, I'm asking everyone cuz I think that is my only scary nervouse bit!)
Take care everyone, and Hi to people I havn't met in here yet XX
not sure how many, i reckon maybe 2-4 but some shar peis have up to 9 in their first litter.nothing happening yet.if no contractions in next couple hours i have to ring vet again.im exhausted lol
Trubabe - at least she is keeping you busy and your mind away from ttc!! All the vet visits sound expensive:)
murraycod - Good luck with your IVF. Are you getting Lucrin injections too? I am so unfamiliar with everything, and have asked the doc for a calendar, but I think certain things have to happen before next stages... I am giving the inj myself - my DH is too scared of hurting me, and it is better to do it myself, I don't hate him then for hurting me:)
murraycod, I did my first EPU in Nov 08. I still remember how terrified I was. It was my first ever general anaesthetic... At the time we were in the process of finally getting some life insurance and I was so scared that I made sure I had that signed and finalised prior to the EPU. And in the end, it was the easiest part of the whole process! I walked into the room, lay on the bed, had the IV inserted and woke up in recovery feeling more rested than I had in weeks! I had some mild cramping after, but no bleeding. (I had some bleeding for IVF#2, but then none again for #3.) I'm actually looking forward to it this time - two days off work - bliss!!
Hello Ladies,
Just lurking around...trying to get over this 2WW!!!......anyway, just wanting to share some info with you guys ant feedback would be much appreciated....haven't been feeling well since Sunday...feeling very nauseas (whether i eat or not) very thirsty....boobies very sore still....going to the loo frequently and extremely tired....decided to POAS knowing all too well that 7dp2dt was way toooo early...I got a faint BFP...trying not to get excited as IVF #1 ended in chem preg :cry: and IVF #2 got a BFP and ended up being an evap line... :wall: think i'll POAS again on Friday and see if the line is darker...do you guys think its possible this could be it??? :pray:
Emerald star - you're so naughty hee hee. I can't talk either though. The POAS is hard to resist. I think there are definitely some good signs there. What post-transfer meds are you on? Did you have pregnyl? I think waiting til Friday is a good idea. I know I was caught out with light +ves in my 1st and 2nd transfer which I think was the pregnyl still in my system even after 10 days. Wishing you all the very best of luck :)
Emeraldstar I truly hope it is for you X!
I hade fake pos 14DPIUI, but it was 7DP 1500iu of pregnyl.
MrsP amd murraycod - NO PREGNYL!!! just Crinone Vaginal gel twice a day!!! I'm hoping it wasn't a faulty stick!!
Emstar I have everything crossed for you. I POAS after 6 days and also got a positive. But I wasn't on anything just a natural FET. OMG I hope this is the one for you.:
things are finally starting to happen with our furkid, hopefully the new additions will be here during night or tomorrow
the furbabies arrived between midnight and half past three this morning girl, girl,boy,boy,girl.im super tired as ive only literally had ten minutes sleep in just over 24 hours lol
Em Star - This might be where we part ways, because I also POAS 11dpo, or 6dp5d transfer and got a BFN :( So I think it's certainly a good sign for you to get a faint positive line as early as you have. I also POAS on 10dpo but stuffed the test up, which is why I repeated it the following day. So Tuesday was not a good day for me. I basically have given up on this round. I don't feel UTD. I don't have any symptoms, not even sore boobs (which I have on other cycles albeit they were negative). I am not in a good place with it all at the moment. We had our best cycle yet, heaps of good quality embies. Two blasties transferred and they were rated by the scientist as the top grade - so why doesn't it work? I don't know what else I could have done. It's just so unfair. To top it all off, we have to attend a 2yo's birthday party soon. So I will have to put on a smile on my dial and go along to see everyone else's kids when I can't have my own!
Sorry for the vent. I am so p'd off by how unfair the world can be.
some piccies of the babies
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Trubabe, they're gorgeous! Glad to hear they finally arrived safe and sound!
Brunette, 11dpo may still be early, but I understand where you're at. :comfort: I was meant to go to a baby shower a day after my BFN for IVF#2 and I just couldn't do it. Within a week of that we also had a 1st birthday/baptism to go to and another friend gave birth (I ended up crying when we visited her in hospital, but luckily since their first child was from IVF she understood)... :(
Emerald Star, :crossfingers:!!! :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:
Afm, if I do manage to get a BFP from this, I'll be making lots of jokes about my "baby brain" starting before I was pg... :rolleyes: I'm becoming the most absent-minded person in history! I just had this moment of panic wondering if I'd forgotten to do my shot this morning. Like I could forget to do that! Or could I? If I could forget I've done it, could I forget to do it? Aaaaaahhhhhh!!!!! :doh:
Brunette sounds like your having a bad day babe. :comfort:
Please don't give up, even if this isn't it you have 11 in the freezer, thats amazing!!!
xx
OOOh Girls I am so frustrated. Stil no af, nasty crampy pains, is going to be a shocker when it comes. Just had a naprosin. Had bloods done today prelim IVF, so should be starting very soon! So excited!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Trubabe sounds like you had an interesting night!! How are the pups going?? I'm not on Facebook so can't peek, but I'm sure they are just gorgeouse! You have the best mind diversion ATM!!!
Juniper, I would of suggested putting a cross on the calender every morning after you have the inj, but what if you forget that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just another thing for you to have to remember!:lol:
Brunette darling sorry your having a bad day, I can only imagine what you are going through, I had enough trouble coping with the IUI's not woking for me.
Sweetheart take each day as it is, we are all here for you, no matter the result stay strong. ( I avoid kids parties all the time! I thaught I was the only one!) When DH and I get invited somewhere, I discreetly find out if there is going to be babies there....hence our absence......
Emeraldstar no Pregnyl hey!!!!!!!!!! Hmmmmmmmm;)
Babytruj as soon as I get AF I have to go on the pill for 2 weeks to avoid Repromed's Christmas break! They normally go off natural cycle, but this time of year a bit hard, atleast they are fitting me in before next years medicare bullox.
But for the IUI's DH gave me the inj, I couldn't bare to do it, I sat in the bathroom for over an hour with my tummy pinched ready to do it, but I just couldnt! Poor DH the first time almost hurt him more than it hurt me! But weirdly enough he looks forward to that part now.....:rolleyes:....na I think he likes feeling like he has a part in the treatment...other than the obviouse one anyway...:rolleyes:
MrsP hope you are feeling well X
Nix76 hope the last days are going fast for you X
Hi jaki80 X Rob X
Helllooo Ladies,
Well here i was bragging about a nice early faint BFP! well today i did another POAS and it was BFN!!! :wtf:
Well, serves me right and i should have waited...problem is both tests were NOT with my FMU....the first test i did with "Pregnosis Clear" which claims to be very sensitive and can detect as low as 25iui HCG..(this is the brand I also got a evap line on my 2nd IVF) the second test i did was with "Discover One Step" which i normally use, however it doesn't state how low HCG levels it detects..it just says "early detection".....so, my conclusions are: A) first test is true as it CAN detect low levels of HCG
B) Second test is correct and the first test is an evap line ( in which case i will never use again)
So i have decided to POAS again tomorrow morning with my FMU and Pee on both of them at the same time and see what happens....( what a psycho i'm turning into!!!!!)
Also Nurse called today 2 change BT date as they are overbooked and brought it forward to Tuesday!!! :D
Brunette - I don't think we will be parting ways....looks like i will be here awhile longer, :rolleyes: :shakehead:
Emstart I took my first POAS Tuesday afternoon 6DPT and it was positive. I was in Adelaide and hubby was home (200km away, and I had promised not to POAS) so by the time I got home I was devistated to see that the digital word PREGNANT had disappeared. Hoping to be able to tell him the next day which was WED I used my FMU and it was BFN, I was devo'd anyway on the Thursday I went and bought more and in the faternoon got a BFP again. And also on the FRI afternoon but not FRI am. Went and bad BT on SAT which is where I got my confirmed 100 HCG then on the MON my HCG was 293 they said it was a BFP and no more tests needed. I still do noy understand why I got BFP in the afternoon and not in the morning, my sister is a nurse and said good chance of twins, so I am so busting to get to my U/S.:
This week I did a FMU just to use up the last test, 2 ppl's over in Pregnancy after TTC have lost there bubs, :crying:, and I was in panic mode not being able to check on mine and wanted to check that it was still there, I have made myself sick with worry I know, but the local hospital thankfully had a cacellation on MON am and offered to put me in 5 days earlier as they understood how anxious I was.
I am just saying don't count it out yet. My cervix was still low and has only just risen, which I know is different with ppl but I was freaking out, and we all think it's over after the tww but then its getting yo the scan and hearing that heart beat, for crying out loud I went out and bought a doppler just to see if I could hear yet, and no I couldn't but I figured I can use it later on.
Peple that are close to us can't believe that we weny to IVF as we have kids already, but it didn't mean we didn't want more it's just how it is unfortunately, and so I am now happy to be pregnant, but very alone where we live. My inlaws are terrible and my family live far away and my mum has recently gone into a nursing home which is 2 hours away, and so I have relied heavily on all the people in this forum for my support and I always will and so sweety just remember to look after yourself and try to stay positive because where there is a will there is a way.
This year has been so hard for us especially DH, and I have come to realise how important my marriage is, you know we had decided this was the last FET and we were going to wal away. The financial pressure due to the drought for three years, has meant we have a hefty mortgage and couldn't justify spending the money when we do have children, the farm was struggling and we were TTC. And finally things are starting to turn. We are honestly pretty broke, but we have our family, hope we are pregnant with a healthy baby and we have a roof over our head and food in the cupboard. And I am so greatful; to be able to look back on this year and know that next year will be better, because at the end of the day once you have hit rock bottom there is no way to except for up! We aren't doing presents so much this year as we have learnt to be practicle and we had a family meeting and decided that we would set a limit of $20 on gifts. I feel that in the long run when you have been where we were, no mortgage and not having to worry to now having one and having to justify every cent spent has been a great lesson for not only me but our children as well.
Sorry for the rant girls I have had an emotional day, I am always like this at christmas, I feel so badfor those with the BFN's and those who have lodt their pregnancies when I am sitting here with children and pregnant again. If I could give anything to you I would but all I can do is walk beside you, be your friend and pray for you all and hope that thats enough because right now thats all I can offer. :grouphug:
:hug: Thank you all so much for the times you have listened, the times you have given advice and the times you have just said nothing. When Kelly created this forum she created an ability for people like myself that live in the country to be able to become a part of a community that will give that support and we all need it at some stage. :thumbsup:
Rob - Thankyou for all your honesty and sincerity..:hug: I really do hope that, that is the case with me and you are right that there still may be a chance for me. Also as ignorant as this may sound i often here women talking about their cervix being low or high...how do you know or check? if you are pregnant should it be high or low? let me know so can check myself..pleeeese!! Also would you say that the Pregnosis Clear is one of the best and most accurate on the market ?? GL for Monday and i'm sure everything will be just as you want it! :D And regardless of anything this christmas will be very special for you as you have gotten your pressie from Santa and next year he will be bringing pressies for Bubs....try not to let anything get you down...after all its XMAS!!
Clearblue digital honey:
Rob - how do i check the cervix?
I will PM you, probably a bit TMI for here lol.:
Brunette - I hope you are feeling a bit better today....but I know how you feel. Sometimes it is all just too much. I am on a bit of a downer at the moment too but the best thing is to just talk it out. Don't ever apologise for venting and telling it how it is....if you don't do that you'll implode. And you are definitely not the only one who avoids kids parties etc, I do it all the time! If they are real friends then they will understand. We just have to believe that it WILL be worth it. Hang in there ok xxx
Rob - Thank u for your story. I know I am emotional at the moment, but it made me cry! I haven't been on here long and to be honest I had my doubts but your right, it is just nice to know that we are not alone in this. Try not to stress and just muster all the positive thoughts you can, by the sounds of it you won't have to try too hard. You sound like you have a beautiful family and next year xmas will be even better :)
AFM - After they told me to just go straight into my next cycle, they called me the day after and put it off til Jan due to all the public holidays! But the doctor also said that usually when you are down to just one frosty that they do a whole new cycle to get more embies. Has anyone had this before? Now I'm confused and don't know what to do.
Hi Bj, we have just had to make the same decision, and we have chosen the fresh stim cycle as its really a shame to pay for a FET for only 1 embie. We'd rather add to it than use only 1.
Hopefully we end up with something to add to it as well as a fresh transfer, its hard with PGD as you can end up with nothing to transfer or freeze. My last cycle was quite a good one to get 1 transfer and 1 frosty.
What i did was give hubby all the info, then he came back with 'his idea' of another stim cycle, too easy, lol.
xx
how do add pics to my posts on here?
murray the pups are doing great. lily is getting the hang og being a mama,though she gets really fretful if a few of them are whimpering from opposite ends of the pen. the are absolutely adorable and even DP spent time yesterday afternoon and last night laying beside pen talking to lily and the puppies
i just added a couple pics to album on here :D
Hey ladies - Thank you all for your lovely supportive comments and, most of all, your understanding. I don't think anyone who hasn't been through IVF really understands what it's like - apart from our partners, I suppose.
Jaki - You're right; we do have 11 snowbubs waiting for us. I'm going to call the clinic today and get the BT brought forward as I am now having serious spotting and just want to get it over and done with and stop the steroids and clexane injections. I've never done a frozen transfer so it will be all new to me. Hopefully it's not as invasive as a stim cycle.
Murraycod - Good to know I'm not the only one who is sensitive at kids parties. I had to buy the present this week, and here I was in Pumpkin Patch looking at little 000 jumpsuits with cute tigers and things on them and I had to stop myself from crying! Aaaagh. GL to you for your first cycle. It's a big learning curve but it's good to have a forum such as this to ask questions and get answers.
Emstar - I'm crossing my fingers for you babe. I think you've got lots of positive signs going for you. Hang in there. Good news that they've brought forward the BT!
BJ - Thanks for your support. Another one of us who sagely makes decisions to avoid children's parties :) Sometimes we just have to protect ourselves, hey?
Trubabe - I haven't looked at your link yet but will do so today. I absolutely love dogs and puppies (with their little puppy breath) and adorable. I am a ****er spaniel fan myself :)
Juniper - It's good that you can fit another cycle in before Xmas and before the changes to the safety net. I've never done an antagonist (short) cycle; always the long down reg which just goes on forever and a day. I just want the BT to confirm what I know already so I can get on with Xmas and start again in 2010. GL to you for this cycle!
Rob - GL for your scan on Monday. I am sure everything will be fine but totally understandable that you have concerns post the positive result. I know I would be the same; but then I am a bit of a worry wort!
Goodness me, so much to read!
Emerald Star, I always buy FRER and the Clearblue digis. FX it's option A. :crossfingers:
murraycod, you just reminded me - my calendar was still on November! I think I'm a lost cause... :shakehead:
Rob, try not to worry hun. Just enjoy being pg as much as possible. I hope the u/s goes perfectly! :goodluck:
bj*81, we're doing this fresh cycle because we only have 1 frostie. Last time we had 2 and only 1 survived the thaw. I couldn't handle starting a cycle with only 1 and worrying the whole time about having something to transfer.
Brunette, I've done 3 long down reg cycle previously and am really liking this antagonist one. No nasal spray, but 4 extra injections. The injections are dearer than the synarel though ($300 ($75 /dose) compared to $110). But I seem to have responded better.
Afm, EPU is confirmed for 8am Monday. Lol, yay for having to be in the city by 6.45am!! :doh: We saw 5 mature follies (up to 24mm) on the right again today, but he couldn't find the left one this morning. He didn't want to push to find it and kept saying he could do that when I was asleep on Monday... :rolleyes: I'm still hoping we'll get more eggs than we've gotten in the past (have previously had 5 or 6), but I guess we'll find out Monday. I'm also hoping all these supplements from the acupuncturist will mean they're much better eggs too!
Hi Ladies
Haven't posted for a while but been looking in from time to time. It's seems to me that we are all starting to feel a bit down with Christmas around the corner. As much as we all say it's ok that it didn't happen we can let out hair down a bit we all know that we would trade this in a second. Anyway as I was reading the posts it struck me that we should be thankful at Christmas for all we have and all that is to come especially since the symbol represents what we pray for each time we all go through the dreaded waiting.
Sorry for no personals I'm actaully quite busy at the moment but I'm thinking of all of you
Thanks guys, it seems to be unanimous that a full stim cycle would be the go. And it does make sense....it would be awful to gear yourself up and go through all that for nothing if the emby doesn't survive the thaw...
Does anyone have a clear simple handle on what the changes to medicare are actually going to mean??
bj*81, the best way to find out what the Medicare changes will mean to you is to contact your clinic and ask them to send you their fee details for next year. Each clinic is different and other people's changes may be completely different to yours.
If you happen to be with QFG, I picked up those details from the Spring Hill office this week (their estimated out of pocket next year is going up to $3200 - in comparison, this cycle should cost us ~$1000).
Juniper - I'm also with QFG. Shivers, I didn't realise the changes were going to mean $2000-plus extra. I have a copy of current fees and I'm hoping it's the same with the new fees, that the out of pocket doesn't include when you have reached the safety net. So it would be $3200 out of pocket for the first stim cycle but then you would have reached the safety net and the next cycle would be less? But I'm in the dark like everyone else ...
I never know what anything costs!!!
We just dish out the money and any return is a bonus! Im with SIVF, who are more expensive than any other i know off. Also PGD costs us extra which Im told will be a Bigger loss with the changes.
Thanks Juniper, I'll give them a call monday and check it out. I'm with City Fertility on the coast......hopefully it's not too much of a hike. It gets me so mad if I think about it too much!! Do they think that we ask for this? Aarrrgggghhh, don't get me started!
Jaki - Sorry if I'm asking a dumb question but whats PGD??
Ladies, I really need your help. I have just found out that I have enterococcus. I had a full blood count the day after my transfer - not at all related to my cycle but for my endocrinologist. Anyway, my white blood cell count came back higher than the normal range parameters. My endo said it could be because I was on steroids or because of an infection - probably a urinary tract infection. I did a urine test and it was negative. But she called me tonight and told me they continued to grow it in culture and it has come back with this enterococcus. Now, I did some research on the net and it appears it is a normal flora/fauna thing. But it can either be in the fluid surrounding your follicles, or it can be introduced via a catheter at time of EPU or transfer. It could cause problems for implantation/viability of embryos. I have never heard of this before. Has anyone else come across it? I am so, so angry because if I picked up some bacteria from the hospital which has caused the non-viability of my embryos I will just go right off. Please help !
Brunette, the sheet I picked up says $2700 out of pocket for the subsequent cycle(s) in a calendar year. In both cases I've rounded up to the nearest $100 and I'm quoting the "with top insurance" numbers.
ETA - I just noticed your latest post. I don't know anything about that, but if there's a risk you picked it up from the day theatres I'd really like to know what you find out about it (since I'm going to the same day theatres!). Did you have any other symptoms or was it just the white blood cell count?
Juniper - So it's almost three times more expensive next year? Far out! I have to do another urine test tomorrow. I will need to call my endo to get her to fax a test script form through, and I am going to grill her about whether it is likely caused from hospital procedures. I know we're both QFG Brisbane patients, but I don't go to the day surgery in the city. Is this where you go? If I picked it up at the hospital, I am transferring. I was thinking about transferring anyway, and this will be the deciding factor for me. I had no symptoms whatsoever, so thought it couldn't possible be a UTI.
Hi Brunette
I've never heard of enterococcus... I would be wild too if it is the clinic where you got it. GL with your investigations...rip into them! It's not like we don't have enough problems...
Hi ladies
Ive fallen behind again sorry - also im very down at the moment because looks like another BFN - Natural cycle and also looking like we are not going to be able to afford IVF in Feb :cry:
Nix ~ In answer to your question, we havent sold the tractor yet and we did think we might have been able to save up the money but for the IVF as well as keep paying the tractor loan but looks like time is just going by too quick and we cant seem to save enough.
Emstar ~ will have everything crossed for you hun, hope you get your miracle! :pray:
Ladies that have come back from TWW with neg's I feel for you and hope you can get back on the horse soon.
Brunette ~ Hoping the docs can work out what is going on with your cell counts etc.
Trubabe ~ congrats on the arrival of your pups - too cute! Hope you get some rest.
GL all, I might stay away from BB for a bit. Not sure yet
:pink-babydust::stickyvibesboy: to you all xoxo
Thanks for your support etc