Juniper thanks I did really need that. Right back at you.

Miss B, you too. Sounds really hard. Being in the mood is fairly rare for me too, with my back pain and also the stress of TTC. Maca I have heard can increase libido.

Yes, that is an awesome compliment! Yes, I know what you mean Juniper about thinking "well at least I've got this going for me" and then it seems like each item gets systematically ticked off as time and tests go by.

AFM, still neg on the OPK and now I am fretting that I've missed it. Which is fairly unlikely and nuts. My TCM lady says that the ovary is probably just recovering (there was a lot of surgery on the right ovary, and the left was impacted on the last lap 4 years ago so ovulation will probably be less frequent overall). I guess I never thought that my hormones and desire and so forth might be impacted and that really freaks me out. I suppose I can get scans and stuff to see whether I am ovulating naturally but prob not worth the expense esp with IVF happening in a month or so. Can you do an FET if you don't ovulate naturally? How do they time it? If this means more drugs, I will cry.

lots of luck to all,
WW