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hi Kotare - when is your AF due? what type of cycle are you doing? my first cycle was a BFN but we are doing a natural FET next im just waiting for AF (due sometime between today and Tuesday) then i do a BT on day 1 then on day 12 another BT and if i have LH surge i have blastocyst transfer 5 days later. it sounds so easy its hard to comprehend that it works this way....all my Blasts were hatching morulas so apparently thats really good. im only having one put back in at a time as personal choice.
Ok, I'm going to do my best to attempt some personals here..
Megan, welcome back!! glad to see you back here. YAY on moving house and hope you can get some broadband out in the sticks!
Holly - How great that Antonia gave you some positive news and even better that you will be able to see her in Sydney now.
Mel - glad to hear all went well with your DH's op.
Welcome to ray and sparkles (and any other newcomers that I may have missed)
Shannon - OMG at having a seizure at work! LOL at the cute ambo guys though
Lou, just wanted to let you know I'm thinking of you.. hope the flu goes away soon.
Ok, onto me, I updated my journal, we saw the FS and both DH and I like him which is a huge relief. He has booked me in for a lap,dye and D&C Friday 22 June. He gave us info on IUI, just basically explaining the process and said that's what we would do after the lap. I was confused as to whether or not he is going to let us try for a couple of months after the lap. Suppose it will depend on if they find anything or not?
I'm freaking out at the thought of surgery, probably the control freak coming out in me LOL. DH said he will sit down with me when I fill out the paperwork for the hospital.
We got a quote for the FS fees and took it to our PH Insurer and because we got the quote upfront we have no out of pocket with him YAY! Also have no excess on hospital stays as well. The lady at the health insurance mob said that she would get onto the Anaethetist for us and see if he will give them a quote.
DH is all excited.
Hope everyone is well, Lou, I also have a flu, and AF arrived today as well, trying to pop as many pills as possible to make it go away ASAP!
OMG BW - I forgot to say 'hi' to you, hope all is well your way I have been thinking about you.
Nic
Sorry to hear about your uncle Sparkles...hope you are okay.
Mel - the FS I have been seeing when taking metformin & clomid was the first FS my GP referred me to. It wasn't until she said that IUI or IVF would be our next option that I looked at the prices of SIVF & realised how much more they were than Westmead & IVF Aust. I have an appointment with IVFAust 25/6 & Westmead 30/7. If I am happy with IVF Aust I prob won't worry about going to Westmead. I am going to the IVF Aust clinic in Castle hill. From what I can see they are at least $4000 cheaper than SIVF!
Hoping that the new FS will take into account what we have been through already so as to not delay the inevitable. It's a shame cause I really liked the FS I was seeing but I can't afford to spend the extra $$$ when I have two other options...I guess I am lucky in that way.
Ali, there is another option again... Next Generation Fertility in Parramatta. I believe they have a policy that gets you in for your first appointment within a week - certainly worked for us. Very similar pricing policy to IVFAust, but probably not as convenient.
I'm with them and I'm loving it - a few problems with getting to know how some of the nurses work, but they have been absolutely brilliant with me and my body's desire to do everything the complicated way and not respond properly.
I see David Knight there - he does take a bit of getting used to. He's quite big on the emtional side of things, and often drives me nuts at appointments when he's going on about me needing to stress less... I know it's necessary though, even if it does bug me. One thing that does bother some women with him... He's VERY big on weight control with PCOS. He didn't think I'd have to do it, as I'm within normal weight limits, but my GTT came back appallingly bad so I had to do a 4-week diet thing - where he checked everything I'd eaten for those 4 weeks at the next appointment. It worked - I lost 4kg in 4 weeks and continued to lose weight even after I stopped following the program. For others - he has kept them on that the whole way through treatment... Glad I managed to escape it!
Still plodding along, desperately wanting to believe, but scared to let myself. Still testing negative, but still have strong symptoms. Either way it's not too long to go. Three more sleeps! Have finally made my decision - Wednesday I won't be going to work... no matter how much people complain at me! I'll probably still take the early BT appointment, though! :)
BW
Good on you BW...I'm so glad you're putting yourself first...this is such an emotional journey and you need time to just be together and process what it all means...can't remember if I told you but I didn't get o line on HPT till late Thursday and BT was Saturday...so hang in there hun...not long now...I soooo hope you get you BFP...I have everything crossed for you xxx
yay on the decision to not go to work - consider it a "BW mental health day"!! i'm so hoping you get good news hun!
Hi Sonya, thanks for asking - i am really struggling ATM. I went straight back into another down reg cycle after the BFN last time. I had no embys survive, so, back to full stim again :(. I am meant to get AF in a week, only last time she was 8 days late (I hate the BCP!). I am so desparately hoping to get a better result this time. Psychologically I can't do a 3rd full stim this year... but then maybe i can't not - IYKWIM!?! Good luck with your FET - hope your body behaves itself for you!! Sounds like you've got some great quality bubs waiting for you...I hope some 'other' man will get you pg while your DH is away ;)
Nic - yay - i think the lap etc will be good, and it might be all you need (:crossfingers:). Very lucky with your phi. I am with HBA and i think they are mean and have never paid for one little tiny part of anything!!! I am thinking of changing to MU as they said they will pay for IVF, but we would have to wait 12 months. That's OK - the way we are going we will still be needing IVF in 12 months!!!
How are you going Ellie?? Are you having time out or are you going to jump right back into the fire? You are very courageous.
Lou - i will email ;)
Big hugs to you all :hug:
hi Kotare - chin up girl i know your a strong woman...i know what you mean with the emotional struggle of what if another BFN? scenario. your situation is so much more involved than mine though. i am very lucky to have four snowbubs but i am so scared that none will survive the thaw or only one will and i get another BFN... i know in my heart i want to keep on going until i am pregnant but i also know DH wont want to. i am blessed with 2 beautiful boys but have an empty ache in me as i really want another. i thought in my first cycle if i got a BFN i would be able to cope, but after such an ordeal with low response etc etc when i got that -ve result i was devastated. i was angry at everything and didnt want to speak to anyone, i didnt visit anyone for over a week and i was sooo depressed! i am scared of how i will react if i get another BFN but at the same time i dont want to stop trying... now just waiting on AF, have a bad feeling she is going to be extra late for the first time in my life... whats the next stage for you when you get AF? are you back to Synarel followed by injections?
All the stats etc would say we are both going to get pg soon, but it's hard to stay 'up' sometimes.
Yep, I've already started Synarel, so i just have to take my last few BCPs, then AF will arrive hopefully not too late (Synarel makes her v late!), then start the jabs again.
My GP started talking about donor eggs the other day when i went to renew my referral - I told her she was being a bit hasty, but i can't deny that all that is playing on my mind. I should take one day at a time, but after taking the last 1,000+ days at a time, i am beginning to wonder what my future might hold.
I think if it scares you to stop trying - then you should definitely keep trying. I think you must get to a point where you know when to stop, and only you can tell. I think sometimes our DHs just want the ups and downs, and the pain etc, to stop for us and that's why they don't want to keep trying. But the joy in the end is going to be so very sweet that it will all be worth it.
I've been doing the 'why me' thing a bit much lately (and then hating myself for it) and i'm not sure how to get out of it this time.
I'm sure that your snowbubs will survive the thaw - BW's made it, and she had a blasty too. I think blastys have higher %'s so June could be a good month for blastys!! And then bring on July for me :lol:
Thanks for the support - it's really appreciated :)
Hi Kotare
Thanks for thinking of me...I'm not travelling too well...as I'm sitting here I have tears rolling down my cheeks...I would have been 11 weeks 2 days...I don't know why i thought about that today...just popped into my mind...I've just been to the GP...first time I've seen her so had to tell the whole story again...now emotionally fried...I am off work again until Thursday as antibiotics are taking a while to sort everything out...if things aren't heaps better by Thursday I may have to have another D&C????? And all I want is to be back having blood test and waiting for FET...we've got 2 blasties waiting and I am convinced they are our babies...it's the only thing keeping me going....and work....have been promised the world by the big boss...just sitting and waiting for the call...driving me mad!!!!
Sorry for the vent everyone...but to answer the original question...I'll be back in the game as soon as possible!!!!!
Ellie, sending some hugs your way :hug: thinking of you...
Jo - DH is convinced the lap is all 'we' will need, I can't believe how excited he is already! You would think we were already expecting. But I suppose it is good that he is positive (not that I'm not), I suppose he feels like we are actually heading somewhere now. We were lucky with out PHI, so far I'm only out of pocket with the FS 'booking fee'. We are with westfund, i think we have their gold cover. I remember checking it out last year and I think they have a 2 year wait with IVF though...the only downfall.
Nic
Ellie - darling im sorry im not up to date with whats going on but you know im here for you xx
Jo - thought you were going to email??hehe
I'm too knackered for personals, I can't string more than two lucid thoughts together. I suggest a **** up to cheer us all up. Except for BW who will be on the water.
Kotare, I break my no-personals-rule-tonight for you. Given you've had relatively little time on IVF/ICSI as yet, it seems patently ridiculous to me that your GP would suggest an egg donor. He/She of all people should know that these things take time and experimentation. I hope you suggested a brain donor in return.
Alrighty hug time....
First one goes to Lou.. Hope you ok! Thinking of you :hug:
Ellie - Honey i can't even try to imagine..look after yourself! Huge hug coming your way! :hugs:
Kotare - this i can imagine and it sucks big time! To be honest i'm scared big time of going another stimulated cycle i start to lose hope everytime and sometimes its just nice to hold on to hope.. :hug:
:hello: to everyone else i am just popping in quickly hope the long weekend was nice and relaxing!
BW - Almost there hun.
Sparkles- My sympathies on your loss.. :hug:
And huge :hug: for everyone sometimes life just sucks!! We need soem BFP's in here BIG TIME!!
Hi everyone,
sending positive thoughts and vibs to everyone.
Just had my third blood test on friday and my levels HCG are 849 but my pros level is only 4. My nurse was away on friday and l had a stp in nurse, in which who is to give me my results of my morning test... l was reduced to tears of what the comments that she made... she said so coldly that with such low levels in her opinion there is never a positive outcome....it may be an ectopic pregnancy.... but l have to now have another blood test on wed as l'm going to see my IVF Doctor on Thursday..... I was so upset for her making that comment even though she doesn't know whats actually going on - thats why l have to have continual blood tests.... l have a bad feeling that it may be an ectopic pregnancy.... Has anyone experienced low levels that have had a possitive outcome.? or am l just holding on to false hopes.... I am soooooooo upset...!I'm scared l'm never going to get pregnant .... Can l have another ectopic again..? whats the chances of that happening??? can anyone sheld any light on the matter.. babyface xxx
babyface - i can't offer any insight on the ectopic pregnancy hun, but just wanted to send you massive cyber hugs - hope things improve for you soon, and that you don't have to deal with insensitive nurses anymore
take care
babyface - I dont know anything about ectopics, but just wanted to let you know Im thinking of you xxx
Oh Babyface my heart breaks for you...the rollercoaster ride of tracking levels...and the insensitivity of others and a nurse at that...is just WRONG!
I have had dramas with levels with all of my pregnancies...they have gone up then down...all bad news then good news...it is truely devastating...each time though I never gave up hope until it was 'really' over...I still believe in miracles...it's the only thing that keeps you going....
As for levels my experience has been...
1. HcG needs to double every couple of days up to 6 weeks.
2. After 6 weeks an ultrasound gives better info as after 6 weeks levels can do all sorts of weird and wonderful things.
3. If you think you have a ectopic get them to scan you ASAP...my last preg I was scanned at 5.5, 6.5 and 7.5 weeks to rule out ectopic...
Now for a happy story...my cousin has had several ectopics (I've lost count...how bad is that)....and with all her pregnancies that ended in healthy babies...her levels went all over the place and they didn't see a fetal pole and heartbeat until 7 weeks...up to that point she had been told she would miscarry...so...I never give up...if that little one's trying...give it all your love and hang on xxx
Hi everyone
It seems like ages since i have been able to get on-line to chat to you all that it has just taken me 4 pages of reading to catch up.
Good news alert! - we went away for our secret destination long weekend, to Falls Creek as it turned out, and we stayed at a great place on the mountain, with a view across the snowy mountains (well there was a bit where we were anyway). I spent all of Saturday afternoon being pampered in a day spa having a massage, a facial, pedicure, wrap, etc. etc. all courtesy of DP's doing - he is such a sweetie. We went out to dinner on Saturday night and he popped the question! So, we are engaged! We are so excited and happy and wanted to share the joy with everyone on BB :D
I had stared to write lots of personals but realised it would probably fill up the rest of this thread, so apologies for missing out some people. A big welcome to the newcomers to this thread - I hope your stay is short. BW - good decision not to work tomorrow and good luck with your b/t results! Ellie - sorry to hear you are sick but good news about your work situation; that should help with your stress levels a lot - think positive thoughts and that phone will ring! Hollybolly - great news on your visit to Antonia and good luck with her treatment. Nic - best of luck with your surgery next week; another step forward... Jo - as you predicted my AF was a little late on the Synarel as well but I still went for the scan yesterday and have started the jabs yesterday. I think I botched this morning's though as there a small bead of liquid on the needle and on my stomach and now I have a big red welt there... I seem to remember the nurse said something about waiting for a few seconds after the 'clicks'... but maybe I rushed it all because it is not something that I look forward to each day! I don't have a welt from yesterday...
Anyway, will try to pop in again tonight to catch up with everyone's news.
Take care, Cheryl
babyface,
if they believe it may be an ectopic, I would call them and tell them you want a scan to rule it out. An ectopic is not something to sit and 'wait' on, and I have known many women who have been told that they need to sit it out until their next BT only to be rushed into the hospital with pain, bleeding, and other complications.
As IVF patients, we are often led around, discouraged from being assertive, and led to believe that we cannot question our treatment. I would say that it is in your best interests to ensure that an ectopic (if it is that) is not going to damage your fallopian tubes, and so the earlier you get seen to, the better.
Unfortunately IVF carries an increased chance of ectopics, so it may well be that, hun. But a scan won't harm your embryo if it does turn out to be a sticky one, so do what you have to, and know we're all crossing our fingers for you.
Yep, what Sushee said.
Chez, congratulations!
congratulations Chez!!
Babyface, I can't offer any advice... just wanted to say I'm thinking of you..lots of hugs.
Nic
congratualtions chez!!! you will have to change your DP to DF now!!!!
congratulations Chez! any good news around here is most welcome!!!
Congratulations Chez!!! I agree with BG...great to hear good news!!!!
hello ladies,
can anyone tell me the injection to stimulate your ovaries how long do you take that before you do a cycle of ivf.
my hubby and i have a appointment in august at the monash ivf in geelong.
if someone could help it would be very much appreciated
ray
Hi Ray
There are a few different drugs...I was on puregon...started day 3 and had one injection each day for 13 days...then egg pick up and transfer 2 days later...then the dreaded 2 week wait...
Are you considering any other treatment or going straight to IVF?
Good luck...there's lots of ladies and 'gent' here that can offer wonderful support...look forward to following your journey xxx
ray, glad to see you back here. Do you know the name of the injection that you're on now?
Morning Peoples
Just a quick one to wish BW all the best for her BT today!!!
Will be back later with some more personals I promise :)
Thank you!
I've got about two hours to go before I get my results.. and I'm so nervous!
BW
Good luck today BW!
I hope its a BFP!!
Fingers crossed for you..... :crossfingers:
Morning All,
Anyone heard from Kotare? Hope she is ok.
BW, fingers crossed.
Babyface, for every couple of fantastic nurses, there is always one complete cow / insensitive / blunt / unpleasant type. Try not to let one person's negativity or poor skills of communication drag you down too much.
Nic, keep us updated on your progress. Hope IUI is a goer.
Shannon, nice excuse to get a day off work :)
AliCat, it seems that where ever you are, SIVF is more expensive. We don't have any choices here, so will have to suck it up and get over it! The good thing is, you never seem to hear of an IVF clinic being bad, so with the luxury of choice you should find someone you like easily enough.
Ellie, hope you are feeling better now.
Hi to everyone else. I've read everyones posts now and am up to date.
Hi Everyone!!!
Just a quick check in - Was checking about your results BW!!!!!
Not long to go, you poor thing - the impatience would be driving me mad by now!!!
All of my greatest thoughts are with you sweetie xxx
I'm sorry I haven't got time for more personals... maybe tonight, but just wanted to send a thought to Jo.... I cannot believe your FS has even mentioned donor eggs yet.
Sweetie, you are way way way too early in this journey to even look in that direction ATM.
My first 2 cycles were terrible for egg quality - especially my first, as I didn't even have an embie make it to transfer... Don't let them start thinking in that direction yet!
I know you aren't a huge lover of natural therapies, but there are many different things that I've read about to improve your egg quality before you look at a donor.....
I hope you're ok, I couldn't believe it when I read your post - our FS said this to us after our second cycle, and even then I just thought no way, not yet... and as it turned out, 2 cycles later we had 2 hatching blasts - the "best quality" embryos the scientist said that that clinic had maybe ever seen....
I just wanted to send you some positive thoughts before you go forward with your next cycle... God knows its hard enough without adding the worry of your eggs on top of everything xxx
I hope you're doing ok.
You have my email details if you want to have a chat!!!! ;)
As for us - have started with our herbs, etc from Antonia... in DH's words after tasting them for the first time... Now thats jsut wrong!!!
Yes, they don't taste the best, but she did warn us!!! And hey, whatever works in the end!!!
I will say, though, that after having the therapy last week, all of my feeling in my c/s area is still there - so much so that I've suffered pretty badly from period pain over the last few days.
I always suffered from bad pain my whole life until having Luke, and never had it again.... I thought my pregnancy cured it (!) but its back, and like DH pointed out to me - I haven't had any feeling down there for almost 9yrs, it sprob been there the whole time, but I haven't felt it.
Its still a little weird being able to feel anything there anyway!!!
At least I know what shes done so far is working!!!!
Anyway, will be back in very very soon to check on your progress BW!!!
I have everything crossed for you & your DH right now xxx
Love Holly
xxx :D
Ray
I am on GonalF injections - one a day from end of AF for 7 to 10 days and then a trigger injection about 36hrs prior to EPU. I am on day 3 of my injections now. Hope this helps.
Cheryl
Holly, I'm glad you made that post. I agree with you completely (re Kotare's eggs) but don't have the practical experience to back up what I was saying.
Chez, are the injections difficult to give? I will be the one giving them to DW. Are they particularly painful or uncomfortable? DW is not much of a needle fan so any advice here would be great!
Rols - the needles are definitely not difficult to give - i've had the puregon shots, and they're basically just in a pen - you dial up the amount you want, and inject it - so very simple
if you happen to be on meds you have to mix yourself - they're not too bad either - the first time i had to mix one myself i had to do it at work!! was so nervous - but it worked out fine and once i'd done it once, you'd have thought i'd done it a million times! easy peasy
you'll get lots of info from your clinic, and they'll show you exactly how to do the whole thing
good luck
Holly, that's interesting that you mention you had bad period pain before your DS and nothing after. I'm exactly the same!
My old GP (from my teenage years) told me when I was about 16 (yes...16!) that I could try getting pregnant to get rid of the pain for 9 months and that for some women, pregnancy changes their cycles and they don't have any pain afterwards. weird huh?
Nic
Well... my clinic wanted to see a level over 100... I've come back at 83. In limbo until Friday when we repeat the test.
Is 83 at 14DPO with a 5 day blast transferred good? :doh:
BW
i wish there was something we could say to convince you that the result you have is a good result hun! i'm so very much like you in that i like things black and white - tell me it's positive or tell me it's negative - i don't like limbo land at all! however - you and i both know that a blastie is notrious for having lower HCG levels hun - and Sushee is a perfect example of lower levels leading to a healthy baby at the end!
keep your chin up hun - and take care