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I have just smsed BG about it! Lol! My levels were 73 at 13dpo, so yes 83 at 14dpo is a very respectable result, BW! It is not limbo, young lady!
Blast transfers always have a lower HCG level at 13-14dpo than natural pregnancies. And that is because where in natural pgs your embryo will implant in 5-7 days after conception, with a blast transfer, it is thought to occur 2-3 days after transfer, so 7-10 days after conception.
My clinic told me that with Day 2 transfer they want to see anything over 100 at 14dpo, and with blast transfers, it's anything over 50. When they told me my levels were 73, I asked if it was good and they said 'you're pregnant, Janice, we're all celebrating here for you!'
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Ok, I hate my clinic! They said they won't say "congratulations, you're pregnant" until they see an increase (preferably a doubling) on Friday...
Oh well... I've done limbo before... I can do it again... I've just never quite done it like this before.
Sushee, you've been an absolute rock for me in this entire journey - I don't think I can thank you enough for all that you've done for me, but I have to say I really, really appreciate it... and now I think I might cry!
BW
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ooh you're making me teary now! Clinics can be so clinical. They are so cautious with IVF patients, yet if this was a natural pg and you'd gone to your GP, he'd be writing you out a referral to an ob by now!
I will admit though that I also felt in limbo until I had my second BT two days after my first. When I got those results back I started to relax a little. And only then did I finally post on this forum that I'd got a good result. So I do now how you feel BW. ;)
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They said that?????? OMG...I so don't like that lady.
We on the other hand know what we are talking about...your level IS GOOD!!!!
Please please enjoy this moment...you've waited so long for this!!! My biggest regret is not celebrating each little step...I know it's hard to stop worrying but even if it's just for a moment...look in the mirror and say out loud "I AM PREGNANT" ...my clinic...like Sushee's...is EXCITED by a FET Blastie level of 50+...you didn't get 51...you got 83!!!! Hang in there sweetie...you've been through so much...but this is good...and you said it beautifully...in you ticker...you need your strength...hang on tight girl we're all here for you xxxx
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Thanks so much for setting me straight, Ellie.
I guess I'd just worked myself up to a yes/no answer - the maybe wasn't something I'd prepared for.
But, I guess while ever AF isn't around, there's hope. I have got extremely strong symptoms, which just get worse and worse (does the metallic taste ever go away?), so there is hope.
Ok, I'm choosing to go and quietly smile to myself because I AM PREGNANT! I have a caterpillar growing inside me!... But I'll still wait a few days before getting too overly excited and making huge official announcements...
So... any other clinic and I'd have been fine - mine is just being overly cautious, it seems.
Ok... finding it really hard to adjust to being able to say those words...
BW
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it's hard to adjust to any change hun, but it's the bestest news and you WILL learn to accept them!
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BW - it's always the way - you're expecting A or B, and then someone gives you C. God I hate that. I really don't like to count my chickens until they've hatched (and started chirping, AND signed a waiver to say that they have indeed hatched) however, in your case it really does look positive. I think everyone here has the same vibe. 2 more sleeps!
BG, thanks heaps for the advice. You're a champ.
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no probs Rols - i think we all ask the same question before our first set of needles!
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hi sushee
i'm not on anything. When we went to the ivf clinic in ballarat the doc said it takes 7 weeks all up.The list they gave me was Synarel and lucrin, but have decided to see a clinic in geelong where we are from i have a appointment in august.
ray.
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hi ellie,
we were looking at having a reversal, but i have a blood clotting condition so he does not won't to reverse them. Plus hubby doesn't won't me to risk trying to have another baby that way, we have to think of are 3 boys already.
don't want to leave my hubby with 4 children
ray
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BW - Sounds fantastic! My clinic won't even test for a blasty result until 2 weeks after transfer. You results are fantastic! Hope it just keeps climbing and climbing!
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Looking good BW, I can't wait to hear the official news on Friday!!
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Hi everyone
BW - great news and from what everyone is saying it is all looking very positive for you! I understand what you mean about being a black and white person - I am very much like that myself and can only begin to understand your frustration. Lots more positive vibes for Friday!
Rols - no the injections aren't difficult to give. As BG said, the nurses will demonstrate and ask you to practice (on a piece of foam) doing the injection. I don't have a needle phobia but then I had never given myself an injection before - I found I was most concerned about the actual needle which turned out to be virtually painless. It was the GonalF going in that stung - that was on the first day. On the second day, I took the injection out of the fridge about 20 mins before giving it and found this made a big difference! The other tip I have for you is don't rush it - make sure you wait a few seconds after all the clicks to ensure the liquid has gone in otherwise you might find your DW ends up with a big red welt at the injection site, as I did! If I can help with anything else, please let me know and I will offer what little experience I have with this.
To everyone, thanks for the congratulations. Maybe mine will be the beginning of more good news on this thread - certainly sounds like BW is holding up her end of the bargain!
Take care all, Cheryl.
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That's awesome. Thanks Chez.
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Owww BW - that's sooo cool. I don't think you are in limbo-land - i think you are in pg-land!! Wow - are you looking in the mirror and saying those words yet?!!
Congrats on the engagement Cheryl - sorry i missed it before :redface:
Ellie - I hope the antibiotics are doing the trick. I keep thinking of you :pray:
Holly - thanks again - you did make me laugh about the nat therapies - i thought 'hey, my mum has invaded Holly?!!' hehehe. In fairness it was my GP who made the 'egg' comment and she was reading a letter which my FS had sent her about the last cycle. I guess he said 'poor egg quality blah blah' and she jumped to thinking that it might be something that can't be overcome. I told her we WILL overcome it. Sorry that Antonia's meds taste so bad, but imagine how good it is for you both!!!
AF arrived. Yes i am still taking the BCP. Weird old body. So I keep taking the pill and i keep following the protocol, but I have to wonder if we'll get cancelled this time. AF came over a week late last cycle and it's a week early this time, and i was always 28 days like a clock. These drugs are annoying and my body won't do what it's told!!
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Hey Kotare....I've been worried about you...good to hear from you. So AF arriving is good or not good...I'm not sure of your protocol...but I'm hoping for you that your body will do the right thing!!!! Keep us posted :pray:
I'm feeling better today...antibiotics seem to be settling everything down...just some spotting today...thank GOD!!! Yesterday I was told if things haven't settle down by Monday I may have to have another D&C...Nooooooo!!!!! Now I'm just stressed off my head waiting for the BiG boss to phone back and finalise everything for me...I'm so sick of waiting...waiting...blood tests...preg tests...now work...ahhhhh!!!!!
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Thanks, Jo, Chez, Rols, everyone...
I'm floating around at the moment - this is all just so surreal!
Jo... you've started bleeding and you're still taking the BCP? Be careful! That's what happened to me and nearly landed me in hospital with excessive bleeding. If it starts getting heavier, don't rest until the clinic does something! I found that out the hard way - took ages to recover.
There's one thing that has occurred to me... I love this little corner of BB so much that I just don't want to leave! It's a big scary world out there in pregland... I'm not sure I'm ready for it!
I did find it amusing that I asked my clinic about the receipt for the cycle while I was in there this morning as I didn't have it yet... only to find it in the mail this afternoon! :p
BW
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BW...so happy that you're floating...good on you...we need you to go and pave the way for us in pregland...we'll meet you there xxx
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BW - you will survive pg land! you're a stronger person than you give yourself credit for! plus you'll never really leave the AC corner - too many of us you've been following long term that you'll want to keep an eye on!
you'll find a new comfy corner and just visit this comfy corner every now and again...
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BW - go forth into pg land - there are a few AC girls ahead of you and then look how many of us will be following up close behind.
Ellie - no AF arriving is not cool. Not yet anyway. The pill should have stopped it. I will keep a close eye on it (that's a weird thing to say !!), and if it gets out of hand i will call them back, BW. My actual concern is that i am scheduled to start jabs on the 22nd - which was meant to be CD 6, but it will now be CD 12. Seems too late in the cycle, but the nurse says the pill is still working (apparently!?!) and the 22nd will still be CD 6 according to them.
On a much happier brighter note, my big sis is 99.9% sure she is going to move to Melbourne (from Sydney). Seeing as my BIL & SIL just left Melbourne for Wellington (NZ) last week, i am kind of excited that i might have a bit of family near by. I told DH that if she does move here then i will tell her what we are doing - it might be nice to have a real-life confidant!!
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i can so understand you wanting family close by Jo = my bro and SIL moved to WA around the same time we conceived angel number two and it was so hard having them so far away because we're al very close. we lost our baby a couple of weeks before they came home for christmas and our wedding. they left at around the same time we started going to the doctor about the AC journey, and i missed being able to chat with my SIL about everything for the first 10 months or so - they came back for good late last year and it's been brilliant knowing they're only 20kms away instead of 5500km's! i can drop in on my way home from work if i need to vent and SIL is great! i think i'd be lost i she were still in WA!
not a lot happening here - just waiting, rather impatiently, for my FS appointment next week - and praying that the niggling pains i've been getting in my tum are actually O pains - hasn't happened naturally in over 18 months, but who know with my body - it likes to defy understanding ....
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hi BW - all sounds promising... i refuse to uncross any of my body parts until the second results friday.....
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Hi all How is everyone going?
Well i have been a little down facing facts and with my uncles passing etc ( thanks for everyones kind wishes) But ffeeling a little up today, i have a lady at work also going through the same ivf clinic as me and i was wondering how long the whole process takes our appointment is 20th August, then i would say they have to book us in with nurse to sort it all out then wait for period then they will start straight away...does this sound right? i am hoping to start asap... aug/sept/oct at the latest?
Could anyone give me the low down on the process?? is it two weeks of drugs to ensure you ovulate and produce plenty of eggs?? or is that not needed then ...? when do you have to inject yourself and for how long? Sorry so many questions, just trying to get my head around it all
Hey Rols- so when is your next app?
BW- I am so excited for you hun...best of luck xo
and my thoughts and wishes are with all of you xo
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Hi everyone...just had a chat with my embryologist..she asked if I've been tested for autoimmune diseases...which I haven't...has anyone been tested...what does it involve and what are autoimmune diseases...feeling a bit stressed...what next???? Thanks xxx
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HI Guys *throws hat in sheepishly*
Apologies for my long absence but have kinda been burying my head in the sand for a few weeks after the disappointments of March and April.
I have been keeping up with the posts but haven't replied cos ...well...I haven't really had much to say. We are the worst sort of limbo land, the kind where the light at the end of the tunnel is so far away you almost can't see it. No money for any more cycles and no likelihood of having enough money saved for another before the end of next year by then I'll be 39 and it may be too late for my eggies, so kinda life is really sucky at the moment.
But enough about me I had to come in and say a huge congratulations to BW...I firmly believe this is it for you girl after all your dramas I think this is the pot of gold at the end of that journey I really do. I too will have everything firmly crossed until friday (and I can do that cos my fertile time isn't until next week!!)
Welcome to all the newbies and a special note to Rols...if you want some info on injections I posted some a couple of months or so ago which people seemd to find useful...I am not sure how to search for it.....Sush any ideas? Just so as you know Iam an insulin dependent Diabetic so needles are like "whatever' to me - much preferred the lucrin injections even to the synarel spray. There are some tricks to making the injection less painful, stuff that a nurse probably wouldn't know cos they even though they are taught to give injections they don't actually do it to themselves several times a day for 28 yrs!!
if anyone can help point me in the right direction to find those posts I would be most appreciative.
Jo.....I am sorry that your FS is giving you grief...maybe we could have a get together for coffee or something one day...it might be nice to have a IRL person who knows what you are going through.
Lou I am sorry you seem to be having hassles at the moment and as such can't access the support you need...feel free to pm me if you want to chat.
To everyone else :hug: It seems that we are all a bit flat in here at the moment...let's hope its just the weather and soon the sun will be shining and brightening our prospects somewhat...I mean who knows..I might win Tattslotto this week and all my problems will be solved (well almost all..still need a baby but YKWIM!).
i will try not to be such a stranger from now on.......
*sneaks out again*
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It's so good to hear from you again, Mel! :hug: I so wish I could fix things for you.
Ellie, an autoimmune condition is just something where your immune system doesn't quite work right and tends to attack things it shouldn't. I'm not able to explain it all that well, but I have one - the rheumatoid arthritis. Deb (Flowerchild) has a lot more information and you might want to seek her out for some help and advice. Usual treatment is prednisone, which I'm currently taking for the arthritis anyway... Sorry I can't help too much - it's like my brain has turned to mush!
I just had to pop back in... even though I arranged to be out from work yesterday, and only a tiny handful of people knew the real reason... they made it look like I was sick and it was a normal I was just unwell that morning kind of day. And to make things even better... the biggest gossip in the school was out today as well. They'll probably be able to figure it out, particularly if I bail on Friday as well... but for now - my little secret is being protected! :)
I'm having a go at searching for Mel's injection posts - they were great! Just got to wait for the 200seconds to expire because I futzed it first go...
ETA: found 'em!
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...d.php?p=618750
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...d.php?p=674635
BW
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Hey Sparkles. Our next appt is on Tuesday where I get the results of my SA from the andrology peeps, and DW gets her results for everything.
As far as the actual IVF process, the girls would be better placed than me to offer advice on that, but assuming you, and my DW have no complications, I believe (not sure) that they place you on some drugs (injections - apparently painless enough) to produce more eggs, which they then extract from your body using a needle which goes thru the uterine wall and straight into your ovaries (they sedate you I'm told, and probably not as bad as it sounds). If you have PCOS as some of the ladies do, then there are other drugs in addition to try and sort those factors out.
Then they use your DH's sperm and mix with the eggs (either IVF or ICSI) and let the embies do their thing for a few days to see how they are growing. They put the best one or two back inside and hope for the best. If you are lucky enough to get a number successfully fertilised, then they can freeze those and simply do a frozen embryo transfer the next time (if unsuccessful in Round 1) which is much cheaper and much easier and doesn't require all the other crap.
Don't take this as gospel, it's just my understanding based on the bit I've learnt so far. I think they also place you on the pill to make sure your cycles are totally in sync with what they need them to be.
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Hi MelBel. Thanks heaps for the links which BW has kindly found and posted. I'll have a look. At this stage I have no idea what drugs DW would have to take as we don't have her results yet. If she is all OK, then hopefully not many,
Without wanting to poke into your financial affairs, and I'm not sure how everyone else does it, but I sort of assume that most people get a decent credit card, pay upfront, get their rebates, and then keep chipping away at the couple of grand which is left. That's what we will need to do anyway. I had hoped to have the first round's out of pocket stuff saved up, but our computer blew up, my ute decided to chuck a big sook and then we have rates and rego coming up soon.
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New thread time, everyone!