thread: Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - June 2007

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    slyder Guest

    No worries, thanks for info. Nothing is too much info, it takes a lot to make me squeamish.

    I gathered from a bit of reading last night that it had something to do with the luteal phase defect and prog. levels and stuff. Will find out on June 19th how DW's levels for every is I guess. Really hoping she is complications free.

    As for me, I've been getting anxious and edgy about the whole thing more or less out of the blue. I keep worrying that the andrology testing is going to say that all my sperm are stuffed and not useable etc. Even though the FS said I had nothing to worry about, my case was mild (I can't see how 96% malformed is mild) and that the further testing was only to determine whether we were going to go with IVF or ICSI. The problem with me is, if I don't fully understand the ins and outs of something I get worried, but when I do have all the information I still find something else to worry about.

    I could ring up for my results but I've decided not to because waiting for phone calls back drives me insane, getting info from nurses is often incomplete, and it's just easier to wait and discuss it fully on the 19th. Plus, I've decided it's good training for me to be patient during the TWW, and in general for other test results. For me, being able to stick my head in the sand temporarily is quite a new thing and something which I actually think can be quite helpful. Sometimes I think you can actually know too much. We are paying SIVF big bucks to get it right and that's why the FS spent years at Uni - to know what she is talking about. So the moral of the story is, harden the %$%* up, Rols.

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    Dec 2005
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    The reason we need luteal phase support on stim cycles is because of the trigger shot and the fact that the eggs are removed from the follicles before ovulation occurs. This means that the ovary doesn't form a corpus luteum (or 10, or 26 - which I imagine would be bad), so the body doesn't produce its own progesterone at this time.

    Because of the OHSS and the fact that we weren't transferring I got to skip the crinone. AF arrived 8 days after EPU, which would have been very bad had we transferred. The crinone basically means the luteal phase will go for long enough after this. Fully medicated cycles need to have the progesterone created in some way as well, so I think it comes in there again.

    With mine being a "natural" cycle (as if you can really do natural cycles when you don't ovulate without dugs! ) the body is able to produce the progesterone it needs... The one dose of crinone was (I think) just to soften the cervix and make transfer a bit easier. I didn't have any pain at all, and very little bleeding afterwards, so I guess it did something!

    I do recall that I made the comment to the FS that I felt I was stuck in a rather undignified position... funny chair that has pads for your knees to go over and then reclines back and lifts up - bum hanging out in the breeze for all the world to see... The FS made the comment that this was the position that propagates the human race, what could be more dignified than that?! Perhaps if it was just me and DH, fine!

    Anyway, I'm babbling... Back to the crinone... I know have it coming out with horrid brownish grey stuff - still feel like I'm stuffed full of sand. Rols, certainly don't expect to be having any action in the bedroom while your wife is on crinone! And while on the sim drugs your ovaries can get very sore, swollen and enlarged so sex can be painful then too. Basically, you can expect to pretty much completely miss out on sex for quite a while once things get underway.

    Sorry for the bad news there!

    BW