Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception June 2013

**juniper76** · June 18th, 2013, 11:50 AM

Catyo, you could still have a tiny trace of the pregnyl left (ie a squinter) if your test is very sensitive, but at 15dpo you should get a clear line (not always dark, but a definite line instead of a shadow) on most tests if you're pg, so you should be able to tell if it's a real BFP (clear line) or leftover pregnyl (squinter).

Beau, I'd say that's fine. I used to do the same when I was working full-time. I got home a bit earlier than you but also did the morning one a little earlier.

Jasmine, yay for the witch finally leaving! GL with your lining!

Afm, doing fine. For some reason my FS has decided his patients have to split their FSH doses between morning and night, even at lower doses, so I'm doing an extra shot each day (which, as a recovering needle-phobe, I just love...not). AF stayed light and ended a day early so I have a slight worry that I'll get to Saturday's monitoring appt and be told it didn't shed properly and has therefore not re-grown properly, but I'm hoping I'm just over-thinking it... It's normally very thick by the monitoring appt (eg 13.5mm last cycle), so will be interesting to see what it is this time...

**CatyO** · June 18th, 2013, 01:58 PM

Thanks Jasmine00 and Beau30

Jasmine, thanks god AF is gone, I hope is all good for a fresh ET on Monday

Beau how is the 2ww treating you?

Juniper76, what hpt I should get? definitely not the digital clearblue and not the first response (pink box) either?

**Bestrong** · June 18th, 2013, 02:20 PM

Sorry Miss. B I have not been here for a few days because I spend my spare time to do excises in the Gym so I did not have much time to be here and did not see your post, otherwise I will share my experience with you for doing the spray and I wish you are doing well with egg collection.

My doctor agreed if I get sick for pessaries 800mg per day and I can reduce to 400mg per day, however I used 800mg per day, I am fine and I am not sick like last time, it is strange (Maybe the Progynova tablets helped), but I felt very tried from time to time. My lining is 6.9mm on day12, I am not happy with it because I'd never have under 8mm before on day12, but they reckon lining is over 6mm which is good.

I am doing transfer on Thursday, I am so nervous...

**juniper76** · June 18th, 2013, 02:45 PM

Juniper76, what hpt I should get? definitely not the digital clearblue and not the first response (pink box) either?

Those are the two I buy. At this point either should give you a clear result. I've had a BFP on the digital ones at 12dpo (and that was a chem pg with low hcg levels). I've been getting shadows (ie false lines) on the FRER when testing early, but at 15dpo you should have a clear line if you're pg (I had a clear line at 13dpo last time I was pg).

**myturn** · June 18th, 2013, 02:56 PM

Bah humbug.... HCG level came out at 4..... Back for a BT again on Thursday. Ill be ****ed off if its higher. Don't want to go through another miscarriage.

So it tried to stick.... Don't know if that makes me sadder or glad in a weird warped kind of way.

Sigh...

What would I do without you guys.

**juniper76** · June 18th, 2013, 03:26 PM

Hugs to you, myturn.

Technically, most places consider less than 5 to be negative. Hope Thursday's test is zero so that you don't have to worry.

It's always that mix of emotions when you know it started but didn't go anywhere. On the one hand, you were that little bit closer to a BFP... But on the other hand, you know something went wrong...

**myturn** · June 18th, 2013, 03:38 PM

Hugs to you, myturn.

Technically, most places consider less than 5 to be negative. Hope Thursday's test is zero so that you don't have to worry.

It's always that mix of emotions when you know it started but didn't go anywhere. On the one hand, you were that little bit closer to a BFP... But on the other hand, you know something went wrong...

I was surprised they wanted me to come back for a retest with 4.... But anyway....

**Beau30** · June 18th, 2013, 03:54 PM

Myturn - that sucks! Hope Thursday gives you a better answer. Also I'm with you - not sure how I would cope without all you lovely ladies in here keeping me sane.

Beestrong - I am surprised that your clinic hast kept you on progynova for longer if our lining has been better before. I didn't have my transfer this cycle till week 7 as my lining was under what I normally on. Good luck with the progesterone.

CatyO - I am surviving just. Being back at work keeps my brain a little bit more occupied. I hate not being able to exercise during these two weeks. A slow walk for me is not enough. I did however get my Bfp last time with no exercise so I need to keep thinking of that. Heaps of niggles since day 2. Hope the little one is sticking. Can't wait to hear from you either later today when you poas or after bt tomorrow. I have my fingers crossed for you.

Hi everyone else

**Miss.B** · June 18th, 2013, 03:59 PM

Hi ladies,

I'm sorry myturn, I forgot to wish you well for your BT. Sorry the news wasn't better hun

I'll come back for presies later, just wanted to jump on and update you on my EPU. Got only 6 eggs, then the lady that was taking out the eggs said that she got worried as she checked the first few follies and they were empty

then she said she had to give me another trigger which is bizzare???? and then she got the eggs. I don't know what to make of this as when I called my IVF nurse she said that wouldn't have worked......so confused. I thought I didn't do the trigger properly but apparently I did. Anyway, here comes the worst bit. While OH was waiiting on his testicular biopsy, he overheard a guy making a phone call (I assume it was to my FS) saying he wasn't happy with the look of the eggs. So devastated right now

**juniper76** · June 18th, 2013, 04:08 PM

Miss.B, sorry to hear it didn't go well.

I really hope that man was talking about someone else's eggs.

Sounds like a tough day all round, so this might be in order:

**1 more please** · June 18th, 2013, 05:42 PM

Miss.B, sorry to hear it didn't go well.

I really hope that man was talking about someone else's eggs.

Sounds like a tough day all round, so this might be in order:

Hi everyone one I will be back for persies later,
I really just need someone to talk to and help me as I have told no one what I'm doing.
I'm doing an iui this month and Ivf next month and I'm just so confused on what to do.
First you should know DP has NEVER been supportive with ttc at all he never even knew I miscarried
Before falling pg with ds3 don't get me wrong my DP is great just not with ttc which is why I can't talk to him
About this. I know after so many iui's that this one has little to no chance of working so I'm depending on
Ivf which has me freaking out cause we can only afford one Ivf and depending on the epu and fet's with what's left.
I'm just questioning if I'm doing the right thing maybe I should just spend some of the Ivf money get a trainer
Lose as much weight as possible and try natural or more iui's I'm so terrified of doing Ivf and fet's and
Nothing working and the fet's don't work but I'm even more scared of not trying at all. I want my last baby close in age to ds3 and I can just see it slipping by. I usually confront things head on and deal with it and get
On with it but Ivf is just freaking me out in case it does not work. I'm so sorry this is all about me but I have no one else to talk and ask advise to I can't even tell my mum cause she thinks I'm selfish wanting one more baby:-(

**myturn** · June 18th, 2013, 07:30 PM

rai - unfortunately i think only you can make that decision, there are pros and cons either way. For me I wanted to start without worrying about losing weight... But that was at the beginning, now I feel like I have to lose weight, as its the only thing left for me to "get right". (Although I did lose 8kg before I started IVF the first time)

but I can say that IVF is not terrible - what is it about IVF that scares you???

Miss b - I am so so sorry you don't feel like its good news - but you don't know for sure - and plenty of people get a BFP with only a few eggs. FX there's one good one in there - odds for you are usually that it works! So let's hope this one sticks too!!

**Beau30** · June 18th, 2013, 07:46 PM

So sorry things didn't go as well as you hoped Miss B. fx for good fertilisation rates. Rest up Hun & try stay positive.

Rai - I agree with myturn it's an individual choice. I never had the choice to try iui as dh sperm count was too low. Ivf is a lot of money but I managed to get 8 5 day embryos so we slowly making our way through them still trying to get a good one to stick. I don't need to lose any weight & I still can't manage to get pregnant.

**CatyO** · June 18th, 2013, 07:59 PM

rai, I am with myturn, that's a decision that only you can make, but I don't think you are selfish for wanting another baby, would be better if your hubby was part of it, you don't need to add more stress to the IVF process.

Miss.B I only had 4 eggs and 2 fertilised, they transferred 1 and have only 1 in the freezer, so 6 eggs is not that bad. And I don't think the Dr was talking about your eggs, it is really out of place speak like that in front of the patient.

AFM, I bought a First Response and a Clearblue, both gave me a positive but I don't know if I did it correctly...
My God!! I am 37 years old for gods sake and I don't even know how if I did it right, I came back from the shops bursting for a pee and I ran straight to the toilet without the hpt, it was too late when I remembered them, I couldn't hold the pee anymore...
Then came out of the toilet and immediately drank 500 ml of water, less than 10 min later I felt I needed to pee and I went to the toilet, collected the urine in a little container and immersed the absorbent sampler.
The Clearblue says Pregnant 1-2
The first response has a second line, I would say dark, but not as dark as the other one.
Shouldn't I have waited more time, so I get more concentration in my urine?? Or they are right?
Anyway my blood test is tomorrow and I will test again, this time I will pee on the stick and see if it still comes out the same.
I am really hoping this has worked as I only have 1 frozen embryo...

**kbudgie** · June 18th, 2013, 08:17 PM

catyo of you got +hpt on fresh wee it sounds very very positive. I hav fingers crossed for you x

**nothing2lose** · June 18th, 2013, 09:05 PM

Juniper, I think I am o-ing today. Could you please put me at 1dpo tomorrow? Thanks.

Sorry to hear the crappy news in here. It's a sucky journey

Hugs to everyone

Sorry, my persies are not great. My grandad died and his funeral was this afternoon. I feel totally spent.

**juniper76** · June 18th, 2013, 09:05 PM

catyo of you got +hpt on fresh wee it sounds very very positive. I hav fingers crossed for you x

I agree! If you got a positive on a 10 min hold, I'll be expecting good news from your b/t!

Rai, adding to the chorus of "it's a personal choice that only you can make". I lost some weight in our first year TTC and then regained it thanks to all the fertility drugs and emotional eating (stupid IF rollercoaster). By the time we got a BFP, I had gained 20kg...

Weight had nothing to do with my IF - endo, DOR and MFI are our problems and none of those are caused by obesity. The obesity probably does contribute some small percentage, but in comparison to the others it's a drop in the ocean. That said, I know for some women (eg those with PCOS) their fertility is very closely tied to their weight, so, for some, losing weight makes a huge difference. We're all different in this particular aspect and none of us can tell you what your body will do.
I'm sorry to hear your husband isn't more supportive. It's good that you're still able to do IVF when he's not fully on board with it. It's scary when you can only afford one, but if you're racing the clock IVF is the most aggressive option. FX for you.

N2L, one of these for you too: