Thanks for the info Kell.. The reason i asked about the same time is because i would prefer to do it at night with DH but dont they do the first one at the clinic? That would mean it would be during the day?!
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Thanks for the info Kell.. The reason i asked about the same time is because i would prefer to do it at night with DH but dont they do the first one at the clinic? That would mean it would be during the day?!
Hi All
How are we this Thursday morning? Me - nervous. I have an appointment back with my [old] FS today to discuss working on my lining while waiting till May for another IVF (my choice). Strange, I thought this would have been one of the first things we did but anyway, if its only tablets that will be relatively easy compared to the whole cycle. So, I managed to fix the mess I created with seeing new FS & then not wanting to proceed with them. Phew!
Paula - I would take my injections each morning at the same time & in the stomach. I would use a different side of my tummy each day. It didn't really hurt at all. My DH made sure I was doing them myself so that if he was ever at work, he knew I would be right.
BB - best of luck for EPU tommorrow!
BecD - the only time my injections hurt was when I was close to OHSS (33 follies). The cycle got cancelled so i didn't go to trigger, but I think they hurt because my stomach was so swollen. GL for the rest of the cycle - I hope all those little follies keep growing big & strong.
Izzylou, Belle333, Janie71, Saph, Kyles, PLC & TL - hi Girls!!! hope you are all doing well.
Best go, DH is just leaving for work & I will be running late if I don't get in the shower now. Speak soon.
Thanks Peta.
Well guess what everyone..... AF IS HERE! :confetti: I am so excited. I have called the clinic and the nurses have told me to go collect my injections today and start them on Monday. :dance:
DH had a bit of a laugh at me this morning because i didnt sleep alllll night! The reason being, before i went to bed last night i went to the loo and i saw a little bit of spotting... well my mind started wondering didnt it... So believe it or not i got about 1 hours sleep all night. I am so exhausted but i cant sleep. Too much going on up there. And way toooo excited! :D
Little Fish, congratulations to you on a well deserved BFP:D
Paula - good luck with your cycle, hope you breeze through it
Kell - good luck for Friday, hope it all goes well and you feel better once you have reached that part of the goal:)
Janie - sorry to hear about your BFN, sounds like a good decision to try something new, an IUI with OI will increase your chances again.
Kyles - sending lots of sticky vibes your way and hoping this is your last TWW for a long time
As for me I got a BFN from the IUI, AF even came early which is unusual for me. On the positive side my lap will go ahead this Tuesday and I will be clear of endo and can then focus on our next big step which is IVF as soon as FS says its ok to go. I have decided to take a break from everything for the next month as things have overtaken my life, I need to put things aside and get my emotions back together ready for our 1st IVF attempt asap.
TL - See you on Tuesday in line for our laps, hopefully the day will go quickly and the next thing we know we will be waking up getting ready to go home.
Hello to all the other lovely ladies in here and wishing you all the best with your journey.
Have a great rest of the week and weekend ladies.
Shel
Shel best of luck with your lap on Tuesday. Hope it all goes smoothly and your back here soon with us to begin your IVF journey.
Shel - See you then I am in at 12pm
Paula - Yay on geting the drugs
Kelle - GL with EPU sweet
Hi ladies - I'm still around - lurking and keeping updated - just quiet cos the whole TTC thing gets a little overwhelming from time to time...:redface:
TL and shel - best of luck for ur laps on Tuesday - ul be fine! It was a generous week of recovery post op for me - be good to ur bods!
Peta - good luck today hun - glad that things were able to be fixed and seems clearer for you now. Hugs hun!
BB - good luck hun - :pray: for u too!
hello everyone else - thinkin of u all the time!!
Hi Girls
Well I survived today only I felt really bad when I went to the clinic. They didn't seem too happy to see me after the cr4p I have pulled over the last week, but maybe they were just having a bad day. So I am now waiting patiently for AF (should be here anytime, I feel so sick in my tummy although being that I haven't had one for so long I don't really know the signs :doh:) then on Day 2, I start taking 3 x progynova tablets each day & nothing else. If this works properly my lining should be perfect by about Day 16. If not, it would seem I have another problem to work with. I don't know girls, I just don't think my heart is in this at all anymore. As much as I want kids, I keep thinking maybe this wasn't meant to be my calling. Just having a hard time dealing with it all at the moment I guess. I think I'm at the stage I don't want any more negative results, but I want some kind of formal resolution. Do any of you know what I am on about? Am I totally crazy?
Shel sorry to hear of your BFN, I am glad to see that you are ready to move on to the next step (& able to do so).
Paula you crack me up! Fancy being that excited by AF. I hope you sleep alot better tonight!
Hope the rest of you lovely girls had a nice day! Take care all.
Peta you are not crazy at all. I can totally understand what you are saying. But i dont think you should give up. Maybe you do need a break. Just to get your mind around things and get your heart back in it. I wish you all the success in the world for this cycle.
Well i have all my goodies in the fridge and waiting for Monday to come around so i can start injecting. I am really looking forward (as i have said in every other post...lol) to starting this new journey. I am also booked in for a BT next Friday (Good Friday) at 8.30am, rather early for a public holiday.. no sleep in for me!
How is everyone doing today? Its been awfully quiet in here.
Evening ladies,
Janie - thanks for the thoughts. You're so right about this site. My DH read it with me tonight & could see how useful all the suggestions are & I finally don't feel alone anymore. Thanks gals!
Tiggerlinda/Belle - Thanks for all the water recommendations. Although I?m 2kgs heavier & spending alot my time at the loo, I?m hoping it will make a difference.
Peta - Don't panic about the staff's reactions today. I went into a full panic attack last Friday when the nurse (Claire) wanted to give us a trial run of the Puregon pen(Maybe this is where I should mention that petrified doesn't begin to explain my fear of needles). Claire was ready for the brown paper bag and decided to tell us of all the different patients and emotions they deal with everyday. It's normal for you to feel like this. I fully understand how you feel right now. Between the emotions, people's "helpful" comments/questions & dealing with the needles daily, I really don't know how people can do this for years.
Paula - It's great you're excited but I hope you get more sleep. I had my first appointment with the clinic last Friday to do the first BT and collect all of our supplies (as we're using a remote clinic to avoid so much travel for the BT & Ultrasounds). Claire showed us how to prepare the pen then once they dialled it back to 0, they injected it into my stomach to show us how it was done, without the FSH. Monday's my 1st BT & if all goes well EPU will be Good Friday! I?ll be thinking of you.
BecD/Kyles68 - I agree, I found the needle it's self doesn't hurt but I can feel the liquid under the skin, which hurts some nights & others - not at all (especially with the ice & keeping it out of the fridge for a while)
Baby Bliss - Thanks for the ice suggestion. It really made a difference tonight. Good Luck for tomorrow!
Paula, just wanted to drop in and say when I did my injections, I started on one side of my tummy (the right) and every day moved the injection over a little bit towards the left side, so I wasn't injecting in the same area. That way, if I got a bruise or a bit tender, I wasn't annoying that area any further. :):
Nic
Hi everyone,
Still plodding through the TWW final BTon Easter monday.
Paula - I find that under my belly button is the best spot for the needle or in the thighs. But as i am only going through OI my doses are relatively small. I found the trigger hurt the most as it was the biggest dose.
Peta - it sounds like you may just need a break from it all. I was feeling like that when things were going so slowly with follicle develiopment and i was having to make three hour trips for scans. Wehave decided that if this cycle is a dud we are going to have a break and move to a clinic that is closer.We have one just round the corner but wanted to go to our FS clinic but considering we haven't seen him since before Christmas what is the point.
Saph hope your Tww is going along well
Peta how are you today?
Needles different side each day worked for me trying to find a differnt spot
Hope all of you are doing well. I resgined yesterday so spending a few days on the couch before the lap on Tuesday
:bluedust: and :goodluck: for all
The lady at the clinic that gave me all the meds injected me with the pen in the belly too so that i could see how its done (minus the fluid of course). The needle didnt hurt at all, i couldnt even feel it but im sure that with the fluid it will hurt a little. Oh well, its all worth it!
Hi ladies,
I haven't posted for sometime but I'm still keeping up to date with all your stories and progress. You are all a wonderful support mechanism for each other and I'm grateful to have found this site of wonderful ladies.
I was hoping I could get some of your opinions or advice :D
When I last posted, I had just completed by 3rd round of clomid with no success. DF and I had discussed that we would next move on to IUI. When we met with our FS and told him our decision he basically talked us into IVF and before we knew it our details had been sent through to the IVF clinic ready for us to make an appointment. We had always throught that IVF would be the very last course of action for us, and it threw us when we realised it had come to thisl
Anyway, we recently had our meeting with the nurse co-ordinator at the IVF clinic so she could inform us of the procedure etc. Luckily, I was familiar with most of it due to your lovely posts, so nothing came too surprising..... except that we were told to expect to do 3 cycles of IVF - as about 80% of couples fall pregnant after 3.
I'm just wondering does anyone think that jumping from clomid straight to IVF is the right thing, or do we owe it to ourselves to try other alternatives such as IUI? I've also noticed some of you referring to OI - what is this? Can somebody please explain.
I've also noticed that a lot of you are recommending acupunture for infertility. Is there anyone you could recommend in Sydney in the western suburbs, as I'd like to give this a go if you think it might help.
I'd really appreciate any advice.
Lyrnos - I never had the option for IUI without donor sperm but from what I can understand there are still the same scans and BT's involed. My friends who have been through IUI then IVF wished they went to IVF. It is a rollercoaster but not that bad as long as you approach it postivly. I am on my 5th round and will keep going to we get our little one. Ap is great and I do reccommend it even if it is just for stress
Lynros, i too was on Clomid without success. I decided to see a different FS at IVF Australia. I was worried that they would convince DH and i to go straight to IVF but they didnt. OI is ovulation induction. When you arent ovulating on your own or regularly. I think at the end of the day it is up to you.. If you feel that you want to try IUI, then you should have that option. Has your FS given you any reasons to go straight to IVF and skip IUI. My FS told DH and i that the only reason we would go straight to IVF would be if DH sperm came back with bad morphology and/or mobility. It would be in that instance that IUI would not be worth the time and money. But they came back fine so we have been told to try the IUI for now.
Hi Lynros
I am the same age as you. Did 4 x clomid but didn't work although I do know that I ovulate each month. Had lap and hysto - so know everything is fine.
I was happy to move straight to IVF our FS really didn't discuss anything else but stressed the point that by age 37 fertility really starts to drop off. I decided that I didnt want to waste any more time, I'd like more than one child if lucky enough. Although I would dearly loved to have conceived naturally. I have to admit I never thought that IVF would be something I would have to consider.Whodda thunk it?
But truth is its up to you!! You do what you need to, do what is right for you.:)
Hi lynros:
I just read your post, and thought I would add my thoughts. I am the same age as you and hubby and I have been trying for over 18 months. We have "unexplained" infertility... We were planning to try IUI after chlomid but after a short break of herbs and natural methods we decided to start on IVF. I'm glad we did because sometimes your first IVF cycle can show what is going wrong - we had issues with our eggs and sperm "failing to bind" (sperm sticking to the egg basically). Only 1 egg fertilised and that didn't make it, the rest just languished! The "cure" for this is ICSI. When I look back I know we made the right decisions at the time, but as I get closer to 37 I do kind of wish we had found this out earlier. Also I wish I had known this was a possible cause of infertility, it isn't something that seems to get discussed.
Ultimately, you need to arm yourself with information then make the decision you feel best about. You should never feel pressured into anything!:)
Hi Ladies,
Hope you're all having a good weekend . I have my first BT & scan on Monday and I forgot to ask if I needed to take anything with me. Is there anything you recommend I take or need to do before hand?
Also, is it normal to be exhausted and teary at this point? I'm up to day 7 of the injections....
Thanks greatly..
Izzylou - can't help u with ur quations but thinking of u love and wishing u all the courage and best in the world!
numa, belle333, paula (name buddy:)), TL, lynros - found ur posts interesting as I may or may not be facing that type of treatment in future - GL lynros!!
Have been a little lo today. Friend of mine came to visit with her newborn - great for a cuddle but the bub is similar age to what my #2 would have been (2nd m/c). our #1s are the same age. she also spoke of getting on the go soon for #3. Have been really down ever since she said that - she is same age as me - I feel like her life is the one I wanted for myself. I scream so hard on the inside in times like these - it hurts.
PCL :hug: :hug: :hug:
Hun I know how you feel if you look at my blog you will see a post about my nephew and visiting him at Christmas. My sis confirmed her preg the day after we got an BFN on IVF and he was born a week after my early MC. Hang in there it will be your turn soon :bluedust:
I feel so horribly sick right now. I have been feeling nauseus and bloated all week but it has reached a new level today. Also have chest pain and a headache. The clinic says it's all from the drugs and after EPU it will calm down.
Have started my progynova tablets this morning, trigger injection is 8pm tonight, really not looking forward to that. Then into the clinic tomorrow morning for a blood sample to use in the embryo culture. EPU monday morning at 8m.
Sorry for no personals - really need to lie back down :(
Oh and in other news, I became an aunt again on Thursday night. Tried to be happy for them but failed miserably. Trying not to think too much about it.
Hey BecD
You are nearly there, not long to go now. (I too felt like crap, symptoms were a little different). Good Luck hope you get lots of good eggies!!:)
Bec :hug:
Oh sweet nieces and nephews make it hard but don't bash yourself up
So sorry drugs are making you sick GL with EPU hoping this is the cycle for you
:bluedust:
Linda
Thanks for the support guys :) Trigger injection ended up being a piece of cake, off to the clinic now for my bloods.
The aunt situation is complicated. This is my brother & his gfs third child, and they are still 19 years old. A whole barrel of laughs there.
Good luck with BT glad trigger was not so bad
Hi Bec,
Hope all goes well tomorrow! So glad to hear the trigger went well. I understand the Aunt thing. My sister told everyone when she named my neice that I was too old to have kids so she had to take on the responsibility of passing the family name on.She was 20 & I was 23. I'm now 32!
Thank you TL, Paula, Belle and Numa for your thoughts and advice :). All of you are right, it is a decision that we will need to make together about what's best for us. Numa I read with interest your previous posts, and we too have unexplained infertility. I have often layed in bed at night self diagnosing myself, and have often thought my DF's little guys, mustn' t like my little eggies (because I do ovulate) - I always use to joke about it and never really thought this could actually be a problem, but after reading your posts, I realise it actually can happen. I don't mean to sound horrible but I'm actually relieved because I always thought I wasn't normal or something - as DF has two children already from previous marriage. I sometimes get in that mindset of 'why is this happening to me?' But I realise that it's not just happening to me. Wishing you all kind journeys and lots of :bluedust:
Lou - if that was my sis I would have killed her! My family always had me as the first one to have a baby but my sis had got in with 2 so far and they are the custest boys
Lyrnos - sweet please don't stress (I know that is easy to say :lol:) IVF just maybe the answer and help and who knows you still may fall pg naturally as well :bluedust:
Lynos - I've gone straight from Clomid to IVF(which we said we'd never do!). My 1st FS told me at our 1st visit that I wouldn't have any probs falling & when I wasn't for my 30th birthday (2 months later)I was a mess. Over the next 2 months they discovered PCOS, then I wasn't ovulating. 6 months later I demanded he test my DH, only to discover my DH has a low SC . We never had any chance of falling pregnant without IVF. I got so sick on the clomid & it really did my head in. We're back with my old FS, who answered all of our questions & it made our decisions easier.
TL - Yes, I wanted to do exactly that. I'm the eldest of 3 and have 2 beautiful neices, from both of my siblings. Mum threatened to send me on a cruise to get pregnant if I hadn't found my DH before 30 & now my friends won't talk about their own baby dreams for fear of upsetting me. no-one believes I can cope....
BTW, had 2 nights of no pain with the injections! YAY!!! Wishing you all a week of positive news!
Lou - That is great news on the injections. Friends are funny what they don't understand is that it is no thier child you want but your own. I have been really open and honest with my friends re IVF and we all talk babies together now but it too awhile. Good luck with the cycle.
Me - Well lap tommorrow at 12 just taking it easy on the couch today I have a wedding sampler for me and DH which I plan to do, a jumper for DH to knit (my first) and a blankie to crochet for a friends baby. DH thinks I am made I went post anathesic craving shopping on Saturday and bought all the things I love for next week. There has been some pain on my right ovarie since the last cycle so I would not be surprised if they find a cyst or endo there. Just praying all goes well and this brings our baby our way
Good morning ladies, I hope everyone had a great weekend.
plc1805 I know what you mean about it being hard when everyone around you is pregnant or when you constantly have newborns thrown in your face. Its not easy but you just need to remember that it will be our turn very soon.
Bec Glad to hear the trigger shot went well. It looks scary. The purgeon pen is very cool but the trigger shot is a proper injection. Might get DH to do that one. Wow, your brother having 3 kids by the age of 19, must be a real challenge!
tigerlinda good luck with the lap tomorrow. Hope all goes well!
Well i had my first injection this morning.. And i was very suprised at how easy it was. I was expecting it to sting or something but i didnt feel a thing. Dh turned around and said, "Are you sure you have the medication inside the pen?" lol I might have my crazy moments but im not that crazy... haha I was very excited to get this all started. Now i just have to wait for my BT on Friday. Can anyone tell me what exactly will they be able to tell me on Friday at the first BT?
Paula so glad the first injection went well:dance:
The 1st Blood Test is to see that you are reacting to the injections thr right way and to check they have the right dose
:bluedust:
Hi Everyone, I hope you all had a wonderful weekend. Mine was very relaxing with our first anniversary yesterday. I'm such a lucky girl with the wonderful DH that I have.
Paula: Good news that you are getting into the rythm with your injections. I find the Puregon is nice and easy, but the trigger injection is a little more daunting for me (not trying to scare you!!) I think it is because it is a syringe instead of the pen, so more psychological than anything.
TL: all the best of luck for tomorrow. I am sure everything will be fine. I will be thinking of you.
Lynos: I tried Clomid for 3 months and it didn't even make me ovulate, so the next step for me was OI (ovulation induction). OI is essentially the same sort of drugs as IVF, but at a lower dose. The "fertilisation phase" is done naturally, so that part is like the clomid. The OI was good in the fact that it has made me ovulate, but 6 months later, I am still not pregnant. We are on our last try with OI, and then we are moving to IVF. The FS told me that if you have been ovulating with OI (which essentially is what Clomid does also) and you haven't got pregnant within 6 months, then they look at moving you to IVF as your chances of getting pregnant double. So that is a good thing. I too was thinking of IUI before my FS suggested IVF. From what I have read the success rate for IUI is lower than IVF. So I personally am going to skip the IUI and go to IVF. I too am 36, and really think that the IVF is going to give me the best chance at this time. I was upset when first told also because IVF had always been my back up plan. But after talking to a lot of people, particularly on here, I have come to realise that it is not the end of the world, rather a new opportunity.
As for me... had my day 10 scan this morning and my stupid ovaries are not behaving again! I have been on the increased dose from last month (50iu) from day 3, and my largest follicle is only 10mm. FS said that my ovaries were looking particularly Poly Cystic this morning. I am so sick of not knowing from month to month how my ovaries are going to react to the medication. I guess it really is a good thing that we are moving to IVF, I think we need the added help as my body certainly isn't doing anything positive at the moment! So I am on an increased dose again, and it means that the trigger will be delayed also.
Hope everyone is having a great day and looking forward to the long weekend.
Janie xxx
Hi everyone,
Just jumping back in here amongst all you lovelies after hanging out in the TWW thread as my BT today was a BFN.
We'll be starting another cycle straight after AF arrives - last chance before we move o/s on April 16.
Hope everyone is doing well, and I'll look forward to catching up and finding out where everyone is at in the next day or so.
TL, best of luck for tomorrow, hun. You'll be in my thoughts. What time is the op at? Feeling really positive and hopeful for you with this step forward :) :hug:
Miss C :hug:
Miss C - sorry about the BFN
Janie - Happy Anniversay and lots and lots of growing vibes
Just got back from EPU, we got 10 eggs which is good I guess.
Still very sore and have referred pain in my shoulder and chest which is fun. Thank god it's not as bad as last time though, that was a killer.
Will find out tomorrow how many have matured, then hubby gets to do his bit and we can use ICSI to fertilise them. Am praying that we will have at least one embryo to freeze at the end of it all.
Best of luck Bec... hope you get lots of lovely embies out of it. :pray:
Janie
Hi Ladies
Hey Janie......going on my experience...when they scan they usually start off at day 11 but I have had a couple that have done me at day 10 and mine where exactly the same...but by day 12, 13 , 14 etc...they shot right up..dont lose faith babe..they usually grow about 2 per day so day 16 should be your day!!!! they also say that they can be slow then all of a sudden spurt out.......they can grow anymore than 2.5 a day but you just never know....hang in there huni