Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - March 2008 #1

Thanks for the encouragement Carla... How are you going?

Here's lots of :stickyvibesboy: for you xxx

Hi janie
Yer Im good....abit of stress at work but thats about it......8 more sleeps.....hope we can hang on that long......

Carla - GL with the BT only 8 more sleeps :p
Bec - 10 yay GL for the next stage :goodluck:

Had my 1st BT & scan today. They said my hormones are exactly where they want them to be, but my scans don't match up. :( She couldn't find my right ovary, no matter how hard she tried. I'm told I have 8 follicles in my left ranging from 4.5, 6,8mm & my largest is 10.5mm. They said they can't increase FSH as it could cause OHSS and they're not sure when EPU will be now....I was so excited that I had something they could look at, but now a little confused and disappointed.

I'm so bloated & the cramps are severe. I've put on 3kgs since last week.:( Bring on EPU!

Lou - hang in there just may take a few more days I usally do

Janie

I had 25 days of injecting this cycle to get my one follicle to 19mm.So slow and steady wins the race (I hope!)

Youll be ok Lou......just need to take it easy. Youll get there.....just seems like it goes on forever doesnt it.

Hey Tigger, how are you after your Lap.........not long to go and you will be in the horrid 2ww..YIPEEEEEEEE

TL - just wanted to wish you all the best hun today - will be thinking of you and sending the purest of positive vibes ur way!!!

BecD - GL today - hope u have some excellently matured eggies!!!

miss c - how exciting for u re ur move o/s. hope this means ul still be around!!! Ur advice and encouragement have been invaluable. GL for next cycle!!!

Thx everyone for ur words of encouragement and understanding recently. Hope ur all well and keeping strong!!!

Just got the call from the clinic, eight of our ten eggs have matured which is great news :) Last time eight of thirteen matured so we are definitely on the right track. The eggs have been ICSI'd (I love that term!) and we should have fert results tomorrow afternoon.

Fantastic news BecD
I think it could be a sign for you...egg transfer EASTER SUNDAY.....thats the GOOGIE EGG DAY ALREADY!!!...OH OH OH.......THAT HAS TO BE A SIGN FOR SURE!!!! Be sure not to put all your eggs in one basket!!! hahahahahaaha.....I crack me up!!!
Well good luck for then!!! you will do great!!!

Hi everyone,

Bec, I'm so glad you've got a great bunch of mature eggies :D I hope you're recovering from EPU ok and not in anywhere near as much pain as last cycle. Fingers crossed for your fertilisation rate - I'll be really looking forward to hearing great news on that front soon!

PLC - thanks for your message, hun :hug: I'll definitely still be around once we move! Not going anywhere, especially more so once we settle into our own home - for now we will be staying in DH's parents lovely lovely 16th century cottage. It's a real treat to be there until we buy our own home in the next few months after that. How are you doing at the moment, hun?

Lou, hope you're doing ok. TL has often suggested putting a heat pack on your lower abdomen for 10-15 minutes at a time a few times a day to help the eggs along - it can make a good difference. It'll also probably help with your cramping. Also, make sure you keep drinking plenty of water - it's good for those eggs and can help stave of any OHSS. Lots can happen in the days after the first scan - especially leading towards EPU. When is your next scan and BT? Hang in there, hun :hugs:

Janie, it must be really frustrating that you don't know how your body is going to respond to the stims. I'm sorry that you're having to go through that :hugs: A lot can change between scans, so I hope there's better news soon. When do you next have a scan? I will have my fingers crossed for your follies start doing the right thing!

TL, been thinking about you lots today, and hoping your recovering and recuperating well now! :hug:

Paula - well done on getting through that first injection, it's a big deal hun! It'll get easier and easier now. With my own injections, most of the time they didn't hurt, but occasionally I would nick a nerve a little and it would be a little stingy. Just a warning, certainly don't expect it, but it happened from time to time with me! In your BT they will be checking that your oestrogen (E2) levels are rising which will indicate the the FSH is working on your ovaries. As I don't have BTs just scans, I'm not sure what level they will be looking for - perhaps someone else can give you an idea :) Good Luck on Friday though! I'll be thinking of you.

Good Luck and hugs to everyone else who I may have missed - hoping everything is going well for you all :hug:

Miss C

TL - hope all went well today my dear and that ur resting up and ur DH is paying u loads of attention :)when ur up to it let us know how u are and how u went....

becD - that is so great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ur eggies and it's easter - new life - everything crossed for you hun and :pray: hard for you too!!!

Thanks for the info Miss C.

Can anyone tell me what my levels should be at on Friday??

Bec - Great news on the eggs sweet I agree with Carla an easter sunday transfer is a sign :bluedust:

Well my lovley FS worked his magic yesterday and did the lap dye study, d&c and hsytersocpy. He found endo a bit more than he expceted and it had fuesd my right ovarie down. Good news though as it gives us answer. Back to FS tommorrow with DH but the plan is at this stage to have af arrive in the next couple of days and then on the next AF try again to put this baby into grow.

Ps: I am on limted PC time from DH but I will be poping by :hugs: to all

Hi Ladies,

Thanks for the thoughts and advice. Sounds like it's going to be a pretty positive easter for all....:dance: I was having such a trying day Monday. I knew IVF was going to be tough, but I'm really struggling between the cramps & being "normal" at work, especially after the scans (we travel from the vineyards to Gosford for the scans & I see clients all day in my job).

I had my 2nd scan today. They couldn't find my right ovary again, but they did find at least 12 folicles from 9.7-13mms. They said they won't do EPU until they're at least 18mm. So it won't be Friday, but it will mean a trip to the Sydney clinic anyway as Gosford won't be open over Easter.

Anyway, my boss gave me today off (I'm so lucky to have such a caring boss) so I'm spending the rest of the day catching up on housework & resting.

Hope there's lots of easter eggs for all, for amazing christmas pressies!!!:stickyvibesgirl:

Some good news to report, just spoke to the clinic and seven of our eggs have fertilised :) So am feeling a little bit better about everything now. Next contact with the clinic is Friday to give me an update on our little embryos

Thats fantastic BecD Congratulations................................... .....see........all is good....go with the flow I say.
Lets us all know what you hear on Friday wont you?

I am driving myself mad at the moment on this 2ww...I have BT on Tuesday and now this afternoon have started to get period like pains...Im not due until Saturday and usually get these kind of pains AFTER I get AF....so not sure whats going on......hope the wicked witch stays away!

Bec - Congrats!!! :stickyvibesgirl:
Carla - Here's hoping that your cramps are just nerves and it's nothing to worry about.:pray:
TL - Although it's not great, it's kinda a relief when you receive a reason for why things are not going your way. Wishing you all the best with your FS tomorrow!:goodluck:

I got 'that' call from the nurse this afternoon telling me that I need to go to Sydney tomorrow to see FS as they're concerned about my BT results. My estrogen levels were at 5000 on Monday & now 10,000 today. They're concerned @ the size of my follicles & I'm borderline OHSS... I have no idea what to expect..... :dunno:

Lou, I would say your FS will want to do another BT to check your levels again tomorrow - they will want to be monitoring you closely at this point to check if your E2 goes any higher and how much it changes again. They may think about reducing your dose of FSH, or possibly look at other drugs that can help with your high E2 levels. I'm really pleased that your follicles are growing well, just have to get them growing to that 18mm without more E2! Please drink lots and lots of water, or even sports drinks. It's the best thing you can do to try and avoid OHSS. That, and rest up rather than being active. I hope it goes well in Sydney, hun. Good luck, and I'll be thinking of you :)

Bec - congratulations! :clap: That's such good news! Go embies!!! What a great fertilisation rate hun. :D Good luck in the next couple of days - grow embies! :pray: Looking forward to hearing wonderful things on Friday!

Carla, hang in there, hun. The TWW is the pits and you're doing really really well. You mentioned Crinone - I think that's what you're on, not the pessaries?? - the Crinone can give you AF-like cramps - it's pretty normal for that to happen. Cramping is also a sign in early pregnancy for some women, especially around implantation time (anywhere between about day 6 and 12 after O). So there is a number of reasons why you could be cramping at the moment, all of them really really hopeful, but you'll do your head in if you try to figure out or know which one it is. It's just so hard to tell. The best thing is just to look at the cramping as relatively normal at the moment, and wait to see how things go leading to Saturday. It sounds like making it to Saturday is the first thing to think about. That's what I always do - make it to the day AF is due. Just got to set yourself small targets to get to instead of just trying to hang out until BT day. No AF. That's the thing that's the most important sign at the moment. I hope you're doing ok, and I have so much hope for you! I'll look forward to hearing great news on Saturday that AF has not arrived!! :hug:

AF arrived for me today, so I'll be in for a scan with FS to see if I'm producing a follicle for a natural FET late next week. It's good to get past the last unsuccessful cycle properly now and be on to the new one, last chance before we leave in 4 weeks today! So it's all positive for us now - new cycle and new hope and big move coming up.

Hope everyone is doing ok - hugs to you all,

Miss C :hug:

Good morning ladies! I hope everyone is well and looking forward to the long weekend.

Miss C its good to hear that AF has arrived and now you can focus on the next cycle. What an exciting time you have ahead of you with moving to the UK also. Lots of :bluedust: to you that there will be 3 of you moving over there :crossfingers:

Lou I haven't experienced that problem before so I'm probably not much help. But as Miss C said, drink lots of water as I hear that helps. I hope it all goes well for you :pray:

Carla, I know how much that TWW can do your head in. Just keep the faith, every day is one day closer. I am hoping that I will be joining the TWW next week :crossfingers:

Bec that is amazing news about how many eggs have fertilised! Let us know tomorrow how many lovely embies you have, lets hope it is 7!

TL its good to hear that everything went well with your Lap. Let us know how you go with you appointment today.

Well, I had my second scan today to see if my ovaries had come up with anything after raising my puregon injections on Monday. I'm happy to say that we are almost there :crossfingers: I have got 2 follicles, 1 around 12mm and the other around 13mm. So they are not big enough yet to say that they will definitely mature, but at least something is happening. So another couple of days on the Puregon and then a scan on Saturday morning. Should be last scan for this cycle. So hopefully we will trigger this weekend and early next week I can join the TWW (hopefully for the last time). I know this probably goes without saying, but I really want this to work. It would be perfect if we didn't have to make that next step to IVF. However, we watched the DVD from MIVF last night and it was really informative and took a bit of the scariness away.

Well, I'll let you all know how we go on Saturday.

Have a great weekend.

Janie xxx

Thanks Janie..Im sure you will be joining us before oyu know it!!! Welcome to the looney bin I say!!!

Miss C....thankyou for your kinds words. Yes I does do your head in BAD!!!
I was on Crinone last time but this time Im on pesseries at night. Still have the dull pains...boobs are sore but not as sore I think they should be if I was pregnant....i would think they would be alot more sorer..i feel heavy in my tummy and it kinds feels like a burning feeling but very slight. Not sure but I am tired of trying to figure this one out. God i hope AF stays away. I also keep getting sharp apngs here and there in my boobs...weird but i dont think thats a sign I think my body is just playing silly buggas with me!!!

How is everyone else doing today???

Just a bit of a selfish post for now... im having a really bad day!

Is it possible for the puregon injections to affect your mood? I am feeling so emotional today about everything and everyone. I just feel like crying and crying. But for stupid petty things. Is it just me or can i get away with blaming it on the meds??!! :cry:

Hey Paula....
I think your allowed to be having one of those days and yes I will put money on it that it has alot to do with the meds....your whole world feels like it is crashing down on you and for me it feels like..no one in the world really gives a dam and your going through allt his and no one cares.....BUT THEY DO....
You will be very fragile.....'fraggle rock' as my DH calls it.......the meds yu take are pure hormones.....no wonder you feel a little (or alot) crazy........try and take a deep breath and think good thoughts ok......you have to try and zone out from alot of things around you..hard as it may be and sometimes I should probably take my own advice but thats all you can do....crying will only make you more stressed........you need to be kind to yourself...
We are all here if you need to take and yell.........I dont mind you yelling at me....maybe then it will take my mind off my 2ww trying to help you!!
;):hug:

Ok so now the endo is gone and we have seen the FS today we will start a long cycle on day 21 with today being day one (Yes AF arrived about 11) we are underway with only 20 days to go until we are in cycle.

Sorry for lack of personals but a bit cloudy in the head will catch up over the weekend

Thanks Carla, you nearly made me cry again...haha See i feel like laughing and crying at the same time... :cry::lol: The weird thing is that im not feeling emotional about the whole TTC journey its really about nothing or silly things.. Oh well, shall see if tomorrow is a better day. Or maybe i just need a big hug from DH.

Paula

I was the same on puregon. I would as soon as murder you and then cry over it.
I asked nurse and she said it was the drugs. This helped me a little with the moods. Knowing whatwas causing them, i though i was justgoing insane.:(

Thanks Saph.. its good to know that the meds have something to do with it and its not just me.. :redface:

Well im not sure if ill be back in here till Tuesday so have a wonderful Easter everyone!!

Hi Everyone
Just popping in to say I hope you all have a safe & happy easter break!
Have been staying away a bit as a means of focusing on other areas of my life (instead of concentrating on TTC). It has been great.
It sounds like you are all going well.
TL - glad to hear your lap, etc went well & you are able to start very soon.
Paula - I completely relate to how emotional you get while taking puregon. I was an absolute wreck & am completely grateful to everyone around me for their support & understanding at those times. I must have seemed like a bit of a freak to most!
Carla - hope your TWW turns out positively for you.
Miss C - sorry to hear of the BFN. So glad that you have one more try before you head off OS. You are always inspirational.
Everyone else, have a great weekend!

Hello ladies,

Hope you are all having a nice break and eating lots and lots of yummy chocolate :D

Well i had my BT today and i am still absolutley shocked at the results. Can you believe that after only 5 days of meds (started on monday), we are ready for the IUI tomorrow I cant believe it. DH and i were totally not expecting this so we are soooooooooo EXCITED and not sure what is going on. Hahahaha. Has anyone else heard of IUI being done so soon into the injections? Its just all the stories i have read have mentioned that its usually on day 14 if your cycle or even after that but none have been anywhere near CD10. But apparently my numbers came back exceptional so we are off to do our thing tomorrow. I cant wait.

Shall be in tomorrow to let you all know how i go and also see how everyone is.. Take care!

Paula - Good luck with the IUI tomorrow :bluedust:

Paula - good luck tomorrow! It's wonderful to hear that your body has responded so well to the stims. Looking forward to hearing how it all went tomorrow. What a wonderful start to this cycle - we can only hope things keep going up from here - TWW watch out - here comes Paula!! :lol:

Peta - hey there sweet :) Thanks for your message :hug: I hadn't seen you for a while and was wondering where you were and wondering if you were ok! I hope the break from BB is doing you good - it is so important to focus on life moving forward even when TTC is stuck in the one place. It becomes much too hard otherwise, and it's already hard enough as it is. Good to have focus elsewhere. Hope you're doing ok.

Janie - very glad to hear that things are looking better and you can start thinking about the next step to come. I wish you all the luck for your scan tomorrow and hope to hear really good news! It's sounding much more positive and very promising now!

TL - it's sounds really weird to say this, but I'm sitting here thinking "She did it! TL is starting a cycle! How exciting!" You've been so patient waiting and waiting for this lap, and now you've got through that and you're moving forward! I'm so very please and excited for you, hun. 2008 is going to be your year - your patience and positivity will be rewarded. :hug:


Today has been a non-day for DH and I :D We've been sitting in front of a fire all day (even though it's not *that* cold - just a lot colder than recently) drinking wine, eating chocolate and reading the papers and books. Stupidly decadent and not one thought of the laziness of it all (...until now!) It's actually the most relaxed I've felt in a long time. It's been a great day :)

Scan has been confirmed for me on 31st March (CD12) to see if I'm going to be able to do a natural FET outright or switch to having ovulation induced if I'm not getting there on my own this cycle. So for now, it's pleasant not to have to think about much until then, and really pleasant not to have any meds to take in the first half of a treatment cycle!

Happy Easter everyone - I'll be popping in here and there to see how everyone is doing.

Many hugs,

Miss C :hug:

Hi girls,

Just a quick one as it's been a long couple of days travelling & it's destined to be a very long weekend (all good).

Paula, this is my first cycle as well & while the first few days were a breeze, I've spent the past week crying & swinging in my moods. Last Friday night I couldn't stop crying & I've had to lock myself in my office a few times to save heads from rolling. The nurses tell me that it's natural....

After a quick trip to FS, we go in for EPU Monday morning. He found my right ovary & expects to collect around 12 eggs. The largest was 16mm. My bloods were 12000, but their main concern is I have a low grade OHSS. At this stage they're considering not implanting this cycle if it doesn't settle. I'm happy with this as it's better to safe than risking success. So, it's rest til Sunday then off to Sydney ready for Monday(I'm sure the car will be able to drive it's self soon :cryinglaugh:).

Hope you're all doing well and enjoying a much earned break. Happy Easter!

Hey Izzylou

I was in a similar position to you E2 got to 16000, no fresh transfer, levels dropped off just before but (Iknew and) Dr said not well enough for fresh transfer.

As much as I wanted a fresh transfer I was happy to wait for FET which was just as well - I was level headed for most of the stim cycle but kinda lost it after EPU even with good results.

Good luck to you and take care of yourself.

Hey Paula - hope all goes well!
:)

Hey lovelies - sorry it's been a little while since I posted :redface:

TL - fantastic to know that ur all set for ur cycle. Hope ur recovering ok from lap and slowly feeling better and better. Take care, hun!!

Miss C - so sorry about AF but GREAT to hear ur taking it easy and having some quality time with DH - GL for the days ahead!!

Paula (name buddy:)) great to hear about how ur going and hoping things go forward positively and in leaps and bounds!!

Peta - honey - hope ur doin ok with everything - thanks for popping in!!

janie - oh hun - GL tomorrow - hoping and :pray: it all goes well with trigger - I hope too it is the cycle for you!!

BecD - hun!! such fantastic news!! was today the day u were hearing from the clinic or next Friday?

Izzylou - GL for Monday - chin up - stay positive and strong!!

Hi and :grouphug: to saph, belle, carla and anyone else I've missed!!

Nothing new here - just limbo land for this cycle til ob gives me the go ahead to TTC but still charting etc etc for research :lol:

Take care everyone!!

Miss C - Thanks and LoL it is most probably the break my body needed from IVF though. Can join you with AF though DH and I have a footy weekend planed

Paula - Good Luck Today

Lou - :hug: GL Monday

Hi to everyone and happy happy easter :grouphug:

Hello ladies

Miss C all that relaxation sounds amazing. i love those lazy doing nothing days... They are the best.

izzylou rest up and best of luck for Monday!

belle, how you going?

hello plc (name buddy) haha keep up the research :lol:!

hi tiggerlinda, how are you going?

Thanks to everyone that wished me luck today. It was a breeze and in the nurses words "Complete textbook procedure!" Even she was suprised at how straight forward and easy it was. Just a tiny bit uncomfortable but not painful at all. Felt very much like a pap smear. DH got to sit in with me which was nice. He just sat beside me. He found it all quite fascinating, all the instruments and stuff :lol: The nurse told us there were 17million being put in so i hope one sucker has his eyes open and finds that egg! :fertilise: Speaking of egg.. i have to say that last night when i ovulated it was rather painful. i ovulated from my left side and it was sore all night. :cry:

Anyway, into the TWW we go. I have to go into the clinic on Tuesday so they can give me my first pregnyl injection and show me how to do it so i can do the next two at home on my own. I just hope the next two weeks fly past and we get answers reall soon.

Hey Paula

Just waiting, waiting for FET - likely end April.:)

Hopefully the time will pass quickly for you.:)

Paula rest up and lots of stickyvibes and fertilising vibes your way :hug:

Me I am well resting up it is a bummer having AF and recovery not reccomended to anyone else. Bruise on my Tummy getting bigger but I am riding the high that I will be pregnant soon.

:bluedust: sprinkles to add some luck have a wonderful easter

Hey TL - way to be positive!!!!! bummer recovery isn't it but hang in there and rest up - take care :hug:
Oh name buddy - that's so good that the procedure went well - well done - :crossfingers: and everything else crossed for u too!
belle - hang in there, hun - any type of waiting where TTC is concerned is SUCH a drag and SO boring.

Paula congrats:stickyvibesgirl: to you.hope everything goes your way. Did you use clomid. I had huge ov pain with clomid but nothing with puregon.

As for me been hanging in the TWW going absolutely insane final BT on Tue.:wall: