AFM I have been letting a bit loose this month, I figure 3 x 5dt and all bfn mean by chances of a freak natural bfp would be slim to none so I've been enjoying myself and having a few drinks etc, its been great though I've been having ewcm this weekend so we've made the most of that in case there's a Christmas bub waiting around I get my crazy blood test results at the end of the month so will be waiting for that before I let myself think of anything else.
Good on you! I'm doing the same! I'm sitting here right now with a plate of cheese, dips, pate, olives, bread and crackers and a bottle of wine to wash it down... (Guess who doesn't need dinner tonight? ) Only thing I'm "allowed" out of all of those is the olives...

Just let me know which day you're assuming is O; it's not really something I can guess for you. Or if you reach a point where you think you're in the 2ww but don't know how many dpo and want to move down to that section, just let me know and I can put question marks for the dpo. You're also welcome to stay in the top section if you prefer (many do when they're having a "relaxed" cycle). You don't need to track O for my benefit and I'm happy to go with whatever you want.

Nic, I forgot to say congrats on the weight loss! That's a great effort! I'd love if it did result in a spontaneous BFP for you, but it certainly doesn't happen for everyone and most people never consider there may be other factors at play when they start handing out their "advice". You quickly learn who will be supportive and who will just make you feel like beating your head against a brick wall... Lol, and then they get their noses out of joint because you've stopped including them (eg my mum, who has thrown all the clichés at us - relax, go on a holiday, etc - and even said IVF was too clinical and we should keep TTC naturally because it should be about love)...