Oh Loula
Don't give up yet! You still have 3 more days to go! I will have everything crossed for you!
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Oh Loula
Don't give up yet! You still have 3 more days to go! I will have everything crossed for you!
aw hun - i'm so sorry you're family aren't being as supportive you need them to be - to hell with what they want out of life - this is YOUR life and YOUR choices - no one has a right to make you feel bad about that!
consider us your surrogate family sweetie - we will be more supportive than your family ever could be - no matter the outcome! we still have fingers crossed - you have to remember - it ain't over til the old witch shows!
take care hun - i'm here if you need (MSN is always logged on if i'm online - and you can PM any time you need to) - fingers crossed that your body is just being difficult and playing tricks on you
Hi girls,
I guess this is the time for me to move on to the pg threads. I will say bye for nowtill you join me in the pg threads which is hopefully very soon!!! I will still pop in from time to time to stalk you all..... no talking about me while Im gone hehehe.
I wish I had known about this site years ago as you have all helped me soooo much over the past months and I want to thank you all for that! VERY MUCH!!! I only hope you all get you much longed for dream of a bubs of your own realllllly sooooon. You all deserve to be happy!
with hugs and sloppy kisses from Sazz.
I was going to stay offline tonight, but just had a quick peek in.
Lou - ohhhh, i am thinking of you. I'm not giving up hope for you. I really :pray: you don't have to go through another cycle.
Shannon - i got lots of lovely suppport and positive vibes from everyone here when i was a bit down on Saturday, so i am passing them on to you now. Be positive that the one little emby that has made it this far, has got what it takes. I am now thinking of mine as a little spidy-man with sticky hands and feet, clinging on in there (I wonder who put that image in my head BW). Good luck for tomorrow :crossfingers:
Sazz - here's hoping that we all see you soon, but in another thread!! Congrats again :dance:
Goodnight :)
:lol: I've been in such a weird mood this weekend, Jo! I'll try to calm down and be a much more sensible teacher-type person for the week ahead. My arthritis is flaring pretty badly tonight, so no long posts, just sending my love, support, hugs and prayers to everywhere they seem needed.
And a special good bye to Sazz. Keep a spot warm for each of us, we'll see you on the other side, real soon! :hug: Take care.
BW
i agree BW - it's with such mixed feelings we say goodbye to Sazz - it's great that she's moving on to the pg threads, but you'll be missed hun
don't worry about the silly mood BW - it's been very refreshing all weekend!! hoping that the kids at school can appreciate the happier lady the next few days - take care hun, and i really hope that the artritis flare up is VERY short lived!
you WILL be stalked Sazz - take care hun - hoping it's the happiest, healthiest pregnancy ever!!
Well said BW, i'd like a recliner when i get there with a heat pac waiting thanks.lol
This site helps me to stay a little sane!
One more Q before i head for bed
Can p$ make your veins on you BB really show?
Thanks girls
i've not been on the p4 following tranfer, but have just had 6 days out of 10 on provera - so fairly high dose progesterone - and the veins on my bb's don't appear to be any more noticable atm...
oops i didnt even know provera had p4 in it isnt that HRT pill to bild up linning or am i thinking of prognova
Sorry BG pls help
Like BG, never been there myself... but it is starting to sound like your boobs are being sneaky and misbehaving! I'm not giving up on you yet, Lou, and I'm staying very firmly pretzelled until we get the official result.
ETA: Lou, provera is progesterone. I think it's progynova you're thinking of, to build up the lining, from what I've picked up from the protocols listed in my clinic's handbook.
BW
Thanks again, i wont be doing any more HPT thats a promise (well for today anyway.lol)
Get too disapointed when they are not BFP
provera is progesterone - increases the progesterone level and then once you stop taking it, the drop of progesterone causes AF - the p4 that you take with transfer (from my understanding) helps to keep AF from showing up until an embie can catch hold and start producing appropriate hormones to keep AF at bay.
and yeah - i just googled prognova and it's a HRT drug.
i'm with BW - fingers, toes, eyes - i'm keepin them all crossed til we hear for sure. your bbs really do sound like they're misbehaving - aren't veiny bbs an early sign of pg?? a lot of people don't get positive HPT's til well after AF is due hun....
take care, and good luck sweet pea!
Hi Ladies!
Just a quick pop in to say hi and send my best wishes to everyone with things happening!
Smudge - Good luck for today, hope you stay sane waiting for that phonecall!
Shannon - My thoughts were with you after reading last night - I hope your embie made it for transfer today xxx
Lou - I have every part of my body crossed for you for this week!!!
Jo - So sorry to hear about everything - its devastating your first time round, regardless of how well you think you've prepared yourself for everything.
Our first cycle went very similar to yours, however we didn't even get to transfer the first cycle.. on the day of transfer none of the embies had divided enough:(
You have one, though - carry it with pride, sweetie!;)
And if nothing else, at least they know what to do for next time in regards to meds for more follies, eggs, and embies xxx
To everyone else - hi!!!
Nothing much going on here, just counting down the days until we fly to Melbourne & see Antonia... we're going to wait and see what her suggestions are until we book in for another stim cycle.
The new herbs my acupuncturist gave me last week after my house call (!!) have been amazing.... I feel 300% better than I did.
Have dropped a few kgs which must have been fluid, but am expecting them all to go back on as AF is due for a visit on Mothers Day (hows that for a slap in the face!!!! And, being the 28day girl I am, she will arrive on time... lovely) Thank God for a positive mind, I'm starting to work on it today so I'm there by Sunday:D
Hope everyone is great, talk to you soon!!!
Love Holly
xxx
hi girls, ive been a bit quiet...i have been stalking you all and reading the many posts, but nothing is really happening to me yet.
Lou - in my mind, wouldnt your body be going through changes (eg bb's ) if you WERE pregnant rather than if you werent? i mean i feel absolutely no different except tired, but i think thats the whole IVF and TWW dragging me down a bit. also did you have day 3 or blast? (sorry cant remember!) apparently blast cycle are a lot harder for hpt to pick up the hcg levels. i have spent at least 2 hours a day googled a thousand different things about ivf, blasts and implantation!
Shannon and smudge- all my best wishes for today and hope you both hear good news!
Sazza - if you still peeking - congrats again hun and hopefully some more of us will make the BFP for may thread..
BG and BW - you girls have been my mentors, inspiration and whenever i fell down or sorry for myself i read your journals and posts and realise just how much some people have been through and yet you are strong, empowered women who keep battling on and facing every challenge and diversity!!! I am in awe!
Thanks for your story Holly, I was gutted and had not prepared for the results to be that low. I'm not sure how you coped with none making it. I am now proud of my one - but not very expectant. DH was gutted too. It was so hard. He looked at me so desperately and sadly. He had his hopes a lot higher than mine. And then, for the very first time, he told me how much he wanted kids, and how this whole thing sux and is unfair. He's never ever ever said anything like that before. He has always kept his super positive attitude and tried to keep me afloat.
I have already booked an appt with the FS for as soon as possible (3 weeks away), even though the receptionist said we should wait a month if we get a BFN. I insisted!! Waiting is not my strong suit! I just think we can review my protocol and make it better next time.
Hope everyone has a great day. I'm still sending all the positive vibes that i can muster for you Lou.
Hi Ladies
Just a quick one DH has me tied to the mattress on the lounge room floor and gets cranky as soon as i get up to do something...
Well we transferred this morning one hatching blasty so now just fingers crossed it all goes well.
Good luck today smudge!!!
Gotta go DH is beconning.
good luck shannon:crossfingers: :stickyvibesgirl: :stickyvibesboy:
You're making me blush, Sonya. :redface:
I'm glad my story is helping you, but it is simply a matter of continuing to put one foot in front of the other day after day, because I can't see that I have any choice. And the strength to do that has come from the support of people here, so thank you, Sonya, for being one of the people who has enabled me to do all of that!
BW
What a day. Seems we're a little bit pregnant. HCG levels came in at 84. We were all geared up to hear "I'm sorry or Congrats" not, "the result has come back positive but the levels are low, we'll need to do another test on Thu"
Seriously this is just doing my head in now.
Shannon - sticky vibes for you!!
Smudge - i have my fingers toes and everything else crossed that your levels have progressed where they should have by your Thursday BT so that we can give you the huge congratulations that you so obviously deserve (for now i'll just give you a little congrats to go with you're being a "little bit pg") - it's not over yet and i have so much faith that this will be a good result for you
BW - i'm with you in the blushing department (must have been bad, DH noticed and asked what i was reading!). i don't see my journey as particulalry brave - it's just what we have to do - i guess in some ways being a red head is paying off - the stubborness factor is working in my favour - i refuse to give in!!! Keep your chin up hun - you have a lot more strength than what you realise!
Jo - fingers crossed that the embie you're carrying is a sticky little vegemite and that you're giving us great news in a couple of weeks!!
as for me - i'm still waiting on AF so nothing new to report
OM Goodness Smudge that is great news. be happy darlin, did you have blastie as i know that the levels start really low and i have heard of lot of ladies getting there levels between 70 - 80 and having wonderful pg continue. i have all my hopes that this is it for you hun
Holly - when do you see Ant? im a paitent of her too did you know? im there on thursday this week, maybe ill see ya?
Shannon - i wish my DH did that a few times, ive only ever got a BFP with IVF if ive been bed ridden! but cant afford to keep doing that .lol
Sonya - i believe it is the P4 that makes all these changes with my bb's. having had one ectopic in 2002 and being on ivf for 4 years with two IVF pg i kinda know whats to come IYKWIM? hope your well though hun.
I havent been having any af pains which i dont think is good as every time ive heard someone getting a BFP they have always felt like af is going to visit, IYKWIM? im really not making any sense tonight.
Still i did ANOTHER hpt i really am addicted, and no second line still and im about 16 dpo, 11 dpt. so you would think that it would SHOW up by now hey?
I did read a thread ages ago telling the longest time b4 a hpt showed and i know that some ladies didnt even get them uptil well after a bt confirmed but i think that was natural conception no ivf or anything so they may not have o'd when they thought they had and just got their dates wrong IYKWIM? wish i could find that thread now
Sushee - any ideas?
Yay Smudge! I too have everything crossed for you! Thursday must seem like a lifetime away...hang in there...retail therapy...whatever it takes...hang on to the hope that there's something going on in there xxx
OK feeling really off now, pulse raising and feel like ive od on p4!
Lou, you seem so stressed at the moment. :hug: I wish I had answers for you, but I'm such a newbie at this... You're the veteran that we turn to for answers. I do wish I could help, though, but all I can offer is hugs. :hug:
BW
Lou - are you taking oestrogen? That does all kinds of weird things to me..like that. Palpitations etc I think progesterone should be ok
Feeling pretty shattered after yesterday just feel like getting back into bed and come out again Thurs. I know I should be positive but I am really struggling with this. I haven't felt this low in our whole journey. I don't think it helps that I am now analysing every twinge and paranoid it is AF coming.
Hopefully I'll snap out of this mood when I leave the house :(
It's all rumours and hearsay, but i'll write it anyway...
Smudge - i have heard that blastys start really low too - just what Lou said.
Lou - i have also heard of women who get a +ve blood test but still get nothing on a POAS.
So what i'm saying is - stay strong ladies...it must be very hard, but we are all :pray: :pray: and :crossfingers: :crossfingers: for you.
Shannon - no-one told me to lie down - should i have been lying down?? Hope it works for you guys this time.
Jo
Good Morning everyone!!
Just thought I'd pop in and say hi - wanted to see how Lou & Smudge were doing!!
I can't offer either of you any advice, but I'm feeling & hoping everything I can for you both... keep positive:)
Lou - I remember you've mentioned before that you are a patient of Antonia's - I would love to talk to you more about her, I'm extremely excited about seeing her, but also very nervous, too... What if she says "I'm sorry, I can't help you"... aaahhh!!!!
I've never PM'd anyone from here before, but would love to hear about anything you can tell me!
We were originally flying down for the soccer, but its been postponed.
We had made the app with Antonia & I wanted to keep it so we are still going down for a few days!!
My app is Wed 6th June & she also made me an app for Thurs 7th too.. we fly home that night.
It would be amazing to run into you!!!
Anyway, hope everyone else is doing great, my thoughts are with everyone for whatever stage you guys are at...
Shannon - So glad to hear you had an embie to transfer!!! Keep well, and do as little as possible now!!!
Talk soon,
Holly
xxx:D
Hi Girls, I hope you don't mind me dropping in, but I just wanted to wish Lou and Smudge the very best of luck for your results this week - I have everything crossed for you guys, I truly hope this is it for both of you! Not long to go now, hang in there girls!
Smudge, I'm almost positive that Sushee got a hcg level of around 75 when she was prg with Charlie (he was also a blast) and have seen her post lots of times that blasts often have lower hcg levels to begin with. I think she might be away at the moment, so I hope she doesn't mind me saying all this on her behalf!
Smudge, hope your feeling better hun - i remember reading something (and Willow, i think it might have been from Sushee) that blasts usually end up with lower HCG levels at first BT - hold in there hun
Nic - HAPPY BIRTHDAY hun!! hope you had a great day out with your family
Lou - how you holding up sweet? fingers crossed for some great news tomorrow - i know you're not expecting good news, but it will be all the more special. fingers crossed for you hun!!
as for me - still waiting on AF - was hoping she'd show and (as weird as this sounds) make my birthday better by letting me know we can kick off again - no such luck (well, not yet anyway!!). had a nice day at work - choccies from my best mate, flowers from the girls in my team - plus got spoilt rotten by DH. having a relaxing night at home tonight - was going to go and have dinner with SIL and her kidlets, but my little nephew isn't well, and the last thing i want to do is get sick or make him any worse by adding excitement to his day... will catch up with them at the weekend i think.
Hi All
Two birthdays on the one day inteh same thread - what are the chances (I suppose about 1/365 but I am sure BW could tell us for sure!)
Happy Birthday Nic - hope that you had a lovely day
Happy Birthday BG - hoping that all your birthday wishes come true.
DP has just told me that he can't come to the appt tomorrow because he has a meeting that was supposed to finish today but is going to go for most of tomorrow as well. His only saving grace is that he finally told me what has been taking up all his time recently and if it all goes through it will be a wonderful free additional heath service that everyone in Australia can use - finally our taxes doing some good - BUT doesn't make me any happier about having to go myself tomorrow! Suppose on the up side I can make all the decisions :)
hmmm, tough situation hun! sounds like DH is working on a great project, but to have to go to the appt yourself just sucks. my DH keeps me company every time - but having said that, last time we were there he was running late - and of the six of us in the waiting room, i was the only one to have my DH with me!
Sounds great, Taffy! I'm afraid the mathematical part of my brain has completely shut down today, so there will be no lessons in probability today (and everyone breathes a sigh of relief, I'm sure!). I'm sorry you have to go to the appointment alone, but remember that we'll all be there with you in spirit holding your hand. And yep, make all the decisions and DH won't be able to grumble!
Happy birthday to Nic and BG - hope it's a good one. Or been a good one, considering the time I'm writing this. It's so hard to keep up with everything that's going on here!
Me... rheumy appointment went pretty much as expected. I'm going back on prednisone, and I have my instructions to self-medicate. I have to do it, the pain is getting that bad... but I also think I should call the clinic and tell them. But then my phone phobia sneaks in - I'll tell them when I call to book on for the FET cycle...
BW
hello ladies holding up just.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BGxx
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO NICxx
Holly i would love for you to PM me but you can only do that if your a plat member i think but i will put my email in my contact details feel free to email me and ill give you my number.
Nice to see your ticker flying by willow and thank you for thinking of us. i do check in on you all in paml keep going with thoese belly rubs hun.xx
HI Ladies
Happy Birthday BG & Nic!
Loula just wanted to say a huge good luck tomorrow with the BT :crossfingers:
Hi to everyone else and good luck.
Very tired here went to acupuncture tonight feel a lot better... only 13 sleeps to go and tonight will come very easily i am exhausted!
Work is hectic... who would have thought Shop-a-dockets could keep me so busy!
S
Lou - i'm really hoping things go better for you than expected today
fingers crossed for you hun
Morning Ladies,
BG and Nic - Belated Happy Birthdays for yesterday! Hope you both had lovely days.
Lou - Good luck with the BT today, I will be thinking of you.
Smudge - Good luck with your BT tomorrow - hope those levels have increased. :crossfingers:
BW - Hope you are feeling a little better.
A big :hello: to everyone else
A general question:
Do all clinics offer IUI or is it only offered by certain clinics? We have registered with Monash IVF and are having our preliminary tests next month.
We were looking at treatment at our regional Monash Centre, however they only offer full stim or FET cycles.
BG - I know you are trying IUI, was this option given to you, or was it something that you requested?
I think I would like the oppurtunity to try IUI before going onto a full stim cycle and I am happy to go to Melbourne if thats what it takes.
Is this something that I will have a say in?
Hope everyone has a lovely day.
:D
HI ATT - our FS is one that works out of Monash IVF at our regional clinic - and as yet, we haven't been offered the option of IVF! i'm not sure whether it's just something our regional clinic prefer, but they're very keen on doing every different IUI protocol before moving on to IVF. i've had a friend go through the same FS and clinic, and they used IUI for both their babies!
i'd be asking them what their protocols are for IUI vs IVF if i were you - if your regional clinic only does full stim or FET i'd definitely query what other options you have.
has your DP had an SA and were the results ok? i think chances of using IUI are increased if DP's SA shows strong results.
HTH
Good Morning Ladies!
Just wanted to pop in and say hi -
Lou - I hope everything goes better than your expecting it to today... sending all of my love and positive thoughts your way xxx
Nic & BG - Happy birthday to you guys for yesterday!!!
Smudge - Sending positive thoughts your way, too - Hope you haven't gone insane with the waiting xxx
To everyone else, a big big :hello:
Had a very bitter sweet day yesterday -
Whilst in the line at Coles yesterday, I ran into a lady that had her transfer the same day as me when we did our cycle in 2005.
It was her 2nd stim cycle, BFN on her first.
She ended up with a BFP on the cycle she did at the same time as us, and when I ran into her yesterday, she had her 2yr old little girl with her.
It was a bitter sweet moment for me - I couldn't be happier for her, but it makes you think, and here I was in Coles thinking I could have had a little person the same age:(
When I was talking to her, she said they had just started everything for an FET for next month (from the same cycle her daughter was conceived).
You couldn't be happier when you see people who have finally made it through this TTC journey, but it broke my heart to look at her little girl!
Anyway!!!!
Hope everyone else is doing great - Lou, thanks for your email address, I will write asap !!!
Talk soon,
Holly
xxx:D
well i guess i should have followed my instincts but....
2 days after my transfer i did a hpt hoping for a negative result. this i got which showed my trigger shot was out of my system. i have been desperately trying to hold off till friday for my bt but this morning i succumbed to temptationand i got a BFN.
so now i am feeling a little sad, but know i wont know the truth till friday arvo... so im trying to get into the frame of mind that i will probably be diving into the freezer in hope for a strong snowbub!
DH thinks i pregnant coz AF hasnt shown, but i tried to explain the crinone gel can keep it away. i have a small burning feeling in my tummy and i hope its only a side effect from the gel too.
im not depressed just starting on the slide down. i have an empty feeling inside. i will just have to wait and see and hope my levels are high enough for BFP but too low for the hpt to pick up. anyone else had a false positive?
So sorry to hear about your result Sonya - i have heard of a number of ladies who've not got a positive on a HPT until after confirmation through BT - so it's not over yet! fingers crossed for you hun
holly - i can so understand the bittersweet thing hun - it's nice to see success stories, but so hard when we haven't been through that same positive experience ourselves.
Smudge - fingers crossed for you tomorrow hun