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Dellydoo, please take BG's advice and don't be afraid to go to the hospital if you need to. I wish you the best of luck and hopefully not too much pain and discomfort.
BG, I too felt really full and bloated in the stomach on Saturday after EPU on Friday, so I'd say it is normal. I felt uncomfortable but it did ease for me after a day or two. Hope you feel better soon.
Theresep, welcome and good luck with your TWW.
Kazza
:(sorry to hear that
DD - do do the right thing medically and look after your self Dragon goes on the bedside table :)
Hi everyone :)
It's been busy in here today! Dragons and ironing, hmmm? Very random and entertaining! Mind you, the only dragon around our house is the nasty cat from next door and ironing is *totally* out of the question, you crazy kids! Who ever inventing ironing was a sadist as far as I'm concerned ;)
Melsta - how you doing there, hun? I start Crinone tonight - we can chat about all the nastiness of it in the next couple of days! :P I hope you're doing well and the wait is going ok. Any updates? I love your quote - it's wonderful to have things that really hit the right spot for us personally. It can make all the difference. You're a crazy girl for liking ironing, I tell you! Admittedly, I'll take dishes any day. I loooove doing the dishes :redface:
dellydoo - hang in there! You a real trooper, just like you say, a soldier going into battle. It's wonderful to see you have such a positive outlook, but remember you must look after yourself as number one, especially if things get worse, and we're very much hoping they don't. Take care! Best of luck for your EPU!
BG - awesome! 4 embies!! Congratulations! I was very bloated the day after EPU (yesterday) and really quite sore, but it seems to be disapating today, so if it doesn't start going away tomorrow call the clinic, hun, just to be on the safe side. Hope you're doing ok for now and that the wait for Friday is ok xo
P.S. Please let BW know I'm praying for her and hope she recovers as quickly as possible. Thanks.
dusty - absolutely changes for the better. New start is so positive!! What a great way to start the new year and the next step to your dream come true! I really hope you're doing ok for now. Many hugs to you xo
Brownbug - hope you're hanging in there ok, hun.
Kazza - sending lots of positive vibes your way and hope you're feeling ok. Take care :)
TL - you've been busy! Feng Shui is all a big mystery to me too, unfortunately!
Well, I have a tiny embryo on board fondly named Bernard by DF. I got to see it on the screen - it was 5 cells at 48 hours... which I'm told is a nice strong day 2 embie.
Out of our 9 eggs, only 3 fertilised, and only 2 made it past day 1. I was a little shocked, but I was told that these two embies are very good quality quote FS: " they are up there at the top of the grade and now we know that DF and you make beautiful embryos". Apparently the other eggs didn't fertilise as they weren't mature enough, which also means FS has learnt a lot about me and my eggies too.
So... one frozen embie, and one in mum's tum :D
I am very excited, but I have promised (sworn) to DF that I won't do any HPT's before the b/t on the 12Dec. He's a scientist, and he wants me to wait so we can be sure of our answer the first time round - scientists and their logic! With the wedding and Tassie, I feel very blessed that there are now distractions to help the time pass quickly, even though I viewed them as hindrances to the process originally. I realise now I'm so lucky.
Unfortunately I won't be round so much for the next week - we're off to Tassie in the morning with ILs until next Wednesday, but I will be thinking of you all lots and lots and really looking forward to catching you all next Thursday.
Please be well everyone :)
Lots of love and best wishes,
Miss C :hug:
sorry to hear you news, hun. Please take care of yourself :(
Miss C, remember it's quality not quantity, and your two sound very good. I'm sending lots of stickyvibes to you and Bernard. Hope you have a great trip to Tazzie. Take care.
Kazza
Oh no , sorry chickee !!! BIG :hug: 4 U ! Try & take it easy & take care !
Hi girls,
I hope you have had a great day. I also hope that tommorow finds even more of you with bfp"s. I'm feeling positive today. I finally got in to see my fs and he is wonderful. Best money spent... He was very efficient and extremely informative and even gave me a bit of a chuckle with his bedside manner. So it seems my chances of having a baby arent totally over and that clomid isn't the b all and end all for everyone. So he thinks we need to take a more aggressive stance. So i have to wait until my next af then call him on that day or asap if he is shut and he said he will get me in that day and we will get the injections going. He gave me books and leaflets and a dvd to watch. The needle on the gonal f pen looks huge so that has made me quite petrified and i think it will really hurt on my soft pudgey belly. Not looking foward to that, and i know that that is only the half of it. So feeling positive but a little freaked out. I just wanted to thankyou girls all so much. I know I'm a bit of a floater and i drop in and out,but i have made good friends with a lot of you and i do really care and i do watch with eagerness when i read your accomplishments and it brings me great joy to know that at least if its not happening for me it is happening for other well deserving women.I do think of you all lots , Soul,Willow,bw to name a few.
Sleep well lovelies:heartbeat:
Pauline(polly)
All the best with your next step Pauline:)
Hello everyone,
How are you all doing?? I'm sorry I don't have time for personals, except to say congratulations to those of you who are doing well, and commiserations to those who are not doing so well. And lots of :stickyvibesgirl: to those of you who have had your ET - I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for a BFP.
My news isn't so encouraging unfortunately. After 10 days on the Gonal F injections, my follicles aren't responding as well as they'd hoped - only 6-8 follicles, and only one over 10mm. Spoke to my FS last night and he has upped my dosage, but unless I respond quickly over the next few days, he will cancel the cycle and we will have to start all over again in January. Apparently the first few days of injections are the important ones, so if they haven't responded by now, it is unlikely upping the injections will make much difference, but I guess he wants to give me my best shot at trying for a BFP this cycle. I'm absolutely gutted, as I had hoped to have a BFP for Xmas but it looks as though it wasn't meant to be.
Has anyone else had this happen?? Would love to hear from someone who's been through this. Poor DH is copping all my negative emotions at the moment.
Thanks,
Vicki
vicki, sorry to hear things aren't going how you had hoped. i too had a poor response at my first cycle 3-4 follies but i managed to get one embie and an ET after upping my dose. it was great information to use for my subsequent cycles as we pushed the dosage level up from the start.
i had stims for 16 days with my last cycle so is there a chance you can continue on for another week and get your follies growing? GL hun, it is hard when things don't go how we would like them to, but i think there is a chance for you yet.
BG i hope your belly is better today and that BW is recovering well.
Vickki - it is not over yet I have had 8 follies last 2 stims and still got 2 embies each time for ET so hang in there drink lots of water and think of them growing and new one appearing I usally need stims for 12-14 days so you may be the same.
Miss C - Hi to bernard and Enjoy Tassie
Dellydoo - take care of yourself hun - number 1 point right now ... and all is not lost as hard as it is knowing you may have to cxl the cycle you still have the embies there waiting for you for when the time is right ...
Kazza - dont lose hope hun, at least they know a bit more and as you say can have ICSI next time, which is the best possible option ... take it easy hun and positive thoughts are all yours ...
BG - yep I had the exact same thing, my stomach has only started to disappear today and feel a bit more squishy (very technical I know!), whereas up until yesterday from EPU it was like a bloated rock ... although I did have to go and buy prunes this morning to help shift things along (TMI I know) but alas these are all the side effects of the local i guess .... hope you start to feel better soon ... Hope BW is doing well too if you have heard from her lately make sure you send her all our good wishes .....
TL - morning hun, how are you doing today !?!?
Miss C - yay for Bernard !! 2 embies is great and I agree it is quality not quantity so here is hoping Bernard sticks well and implants big time .... I have promised my DH the same, no HPT's before the blood test I am hoping I am strong enough to stick it out though lolol .... He he i love doing dishes too ... are you sure we are not related somehow lolol ... Yep on the Crinone and so far only side effects are extreme tiredness and really sore BB's ..... youch ..... poor DH cant get a look in anywhere at the moment lololol ... Hope you have a fantastic time in Tassie and enjoy the break !!
Vicki - so sorry to hear your news hun .... the one thing to consider is that your FS knows what is best and I will heartbroken for you if you have to cxl, but now they will be armed with more information and knowledge about how your body responds and therefore you should have much better success. I agree with Dusty & TL as my FS told me when I was responding poorly in the beginning that these things take time and they can play around with the dose just even to get 1 or 2 embies so there is still hope hun .... I know it is small comfort right now but I feel for you hun and hope that some of the others who have had first hand experience like Dusty & TL can help you through this ...
Well I am waiting for our scientist to call to see how many of our embies have made it to Day 3 and what their status is .... sooooooo nervous right now .... and I am becoming so protective, I really just want to be a cocoon mama for them (well the 1 we are putting back that is) ....
Hi girls, miss a day and man it's hard to catch up. I have had a laugh, I love the banter backwards and forwards, I think it makes it more personal.
BW sorry hun, would love to come see you and hope someone has. But you might regret it if I come, it would be a noisy visit. Great news on your embies, hope they all continue on strongly for their mummy and daddy.
BG, I never expected that!!! But I guess it is lots of chances, good luck with transfer tomorrow. Look forward to joining you in the TWW. It may just be tummy problems, the pain. I had a similar type pain IBS Amanda said that is a bowel type of thing, up so high.
DD good luck you brave girl, I can't begin to imagine how you must be feeling, but good on you for having fun and trying to lighten the mood you certainly made me laugh.
Melsta, you are really on a high. Again love the banter and a good laugh you are a funny girl.
Miss c, have a great trip. I can imagine the shock but am very happy that you get to transfer. Like you say with everything you have got on , the wait will fly by.
Good luck, thinking of you and look forward to symptom updates when you get back.
TL, enjoy the relaxation and the time to do the things that make you happy in readiness for next year.
Pookie, I am no expert but like Dusty said can they continue you on for longer, she had a good result with the extension of her cycle. Maybe cause my cycle was cancelled with 2 follies, I think 6-8 are definately worth trying to grow longer to get to size. Good luck ask heaps of questions, don't let them cancel you too early.
Hi Dusty, good luck with answers on your new FS...
Brownbug,theresep, Kazza, hi!!!
To everyone who I missed sorry, will check in sooner next time.
Have a good day!!!!
Hi all,
Miss C - I got two embies too. Currently have one on board and one in the freezer, yay!! I hope Bernard is a sticker for you. Congratulations on your wedding and I hope you enjoy your trip to Tassie. I was born in Hobart and lived there until I was married 10 years ago - I miss it very much still!
Vicki - So sorry you are feeling down. Here's hoping your cycle can go ahead after all!
Melsta - GL for your phone call, hope those embies are coming along beautifully for you.
As for me, I had quite bad AF-like cramps last night, and a few this morning, which have depressed me a bit. I have got it in my head that we cannot possibly get lucky this time, as we probably used up all our luck conceiving our daughter last time. Besides which, my adenomyosis is heaps worse this time, which won't be helping things!! I have felt a bit of nausea and sore boobs, but I think that might be wishful thinking more than anything else.
Oh well, I have my last Pregnyl injection tonight (yuk) and will see how we go. I will be halfway to my blood test tomorrow.
Hope you all have a terrific day!!
hey blackduckies, and top of the morning to you ..... aw you are a sweetie ... im actually in the process of continually picking up my mobile getting ready to dial and then thinking be patient be patient and then think nah stuff it and go to ring again but cant quite do it lolol ... trying to teach myself patience .... lolol hmmm not working today ....
Brownbug - hope that there is no AF for you ... keep thinking positive thoughts, its not over yet and often the AF symptons can be mis interpreated and they are actually pg symptoms .... oooh good luck and try as hard as it is to take it easy hun .... just keep the chatter in here and before you know it another day will have passed and it will have been alot easier to get through as remember you always have the support of your BB buddies .... good luck for your last injection ... you should toast to no more jabbing and piercing of the skin !! Can I ask though what is adenomyosis (if you dont mind me asking that is?)
Thanks, Melsta!
What happened to me is this: Had serious car accident in Aug 2003. When I started getting bad stabbing pain in my belly in Jan 2004, I thought it was related to my injuries, but after a heaps of referrals, was diagnosed with endometriosis. Had a laparoscopy in April 2004 (tube was removed as it had been destroyed by endo) and another in July 2004 (they thought they would have to remove part of my bowel, but thank goodness they didn't!). Went straight on Synarel for a couple of months to control endo, then started IVF in Nov 2004. First cycle was BFN, second was BFP but had a missed miscarriage at 12 months, the third resulted in my beautiful daughter Katelyn.
When my period came back after I finished breast feeding, the pain was horrific. My specialist almost wouldn't believe me, because endo is supposed to get better after pregnancy, not worse. After another shocking period though, he agreed to do another laparoscopy in June this year. Turns out that while I was pregnant with Katie, and my uterus was stretched, the endo actually got into the muscle lining of the uterus. This is called adenomyosis, kind of a really awful endo :(. My uterus was enlarged to the size of a 10 -12 week pregnant woman. There is not really a cure, either, except a hysterectomy, which I won't have until I have a chance at a second baby.
So I went on Synarel for a couple of months to settle things down and to cope with the dreadful pain, now am back on IVF. My FS reckons the adeno may reduce my chances somewhat this time, but is still hopeful.
I'm really really sorry for the encyclopaedia answer here, but I thought a potted history might be the best way to explain it all. :redface:
OMG Brownbug - you are such a strong person I had no idea your journey had involved that much .... I take my hat off to you that you can continually give rays of sunshine even after everything you have been through and I hope your 2nd baby arrives for you on this attempt .... and I also hope in future your specialists believe you from the get go and dont give you the run around ......
Thanks for reading my soap opera, Melsta. There are so many many strong women in here, it amazes me every day. Every time I felt like giving up, I logged on here and read all of your stories, both here and in the Miscarriage threads, and saw how you all picked yourselves up after disappointments and carried on. You all seem to have so much kindness to give to others who are struggling, no matter how bad each of you must feel from time to time. I admire you all very much.
This time, I have found the courage to join in and to experience this support first hand. I only hope that I can be half as good at encouraging others as you all seem to be :)
yep i think this is the best thing that ever happened to all us AC and TTC'ers .... being able to vent and speak about all things even the TMI things makes this process so much easier to handle ...
I just emailed my FS nurse to ask her when the scientist will call me ..... trying *attempting* to clean my office in the hope of making time go oh so quickly .....
Melsta - I am well hope that call comes through soon.
BB Don't be hard on your self you will be blessed again
Hope it is good news for you :pray:!
Grrr on all the waiting involved in IVF!!!
morning ladies - and what a bunch of chatty little bunch you all are this morning!
Melsta - thanks so much for letting me know you've been through the same feeling. i had an upset tum up til about lunch yesterday, and i was cruisy - had to take some pain killers for a headache, and i think the codeine just got on top of me - i just feel really backed up (sorry for the TMI) - have been sitting her contemplating what food we have in the house that i can guarantee will go through me (we're 60k round trip from the shops and i soooo can't be bothered going) - i think 2min noodles might be on the menu for lunch... :lol:
haven't heard from BW since last night. she's been moved into Nepean Private hospital now and is much happier! private room with her own fridge, and feeling a lot better - is now wondering why she bothered to struggle on at home first time! oooh, as i was typing this, she messaged me! said she is still sore, dizzy and bloated, but being taken good care of, and feeling much happier - and has had a good night sleep! yay!!
Wow BB - That is incredible, you have been through so much and you have come through it all with such good spirit. I am so hopeful you have a lovely sticky emby honey - don't let those negative thoughts take over - am sending you cyberpositivity!
VIcki - I am co sorry, FS is there to look after you and I am sure they would not cancel unless it was absolutely necessary. Mine and I had a discussion re canning yetserday because of too many and the risk of OHSS. It feels like you have worked so hard for nothing but my DP said to me last night that it's our first go and this is the way they get to know our bodies and reactions. I am so hopeful for you honey.
Miss C - Yay for Bernard - strong name for a strong emby!
I did my trigger last night and the most delightful and unexpected side effect was the most horrific flatulence I have ever been involved in. I had to keep the dog close to me all night until I finally had to tell DP as I love the dog and she shouldn't have her reputation destroyed! Unfortunately this now means DP is teasing my relentlessly and the dog is not speaking to me!
EPU in 24hours!!! And don't worry BG and TL - at the first sign of trouble I am going to hospital - BW's experience has been a lesson.
BG - 2 min noodles with lots of chilli ought to do the trick.
BG- I remember 2 min noodles and cheese as a uni luxury :)
DD - trigger down epu to go welll done sweet
BG - i bought prunes this morning and I know this is TMI but cabanossi last night too in case it will help ease the movements lol ... hmmm maybe baked beans are on the agenda today for lunch LOLOL but yes you are not alone and it does get better, i find that keeping the water and gatorade up helps big time as well .... go those fluids ...
Thank goodness BW is feeling so much better .... on the up and up which is good to see and a private room is even better .... here is sending her lots more get well vibes ...
Dellydoo - yay on the trigger .. isnt it funny all the different side effects that we have ... good luck for your EPU - what were your last numbers on your last scan ??
Thanks TL - my FS nurse emailed back to say they are really busy in day surgery and in the lab "hatching eggs" lol but will be calling this morning .....
Sorry I got waylaid by the phone as I was typing to TL ... well OMG is all I can say ... Our FS scientists grade our embies by good, fair and poor, so out of the 10 embies that showed signs of fertilisation, 9 are considered good and 1 is considered fair. He did say that they expect some of these to drop off but at the same time, quite a few of the 9 are 8 cells already or more advanced so he said that we have very good results .... needless to say I am in the happiest of happiest moods and I told my DH he is a sperm tank lolol of which he is quite chuffed and I swear on the phone he would have been beating his chest should he have been able too lololol .....
So yes, sorry for my big rant and blah, but I am very happy and feeling even more positive as the days progress .... hopefully not too many will drop off now .....
Eeeeeeek !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Melsta that is amazing news and your DH is probably out hunting and gathering as we speak. I had 16 eggs at my scan on Monday and one was so big FS reckoned it would be gone by EPU. My Estrogen was 21000 yesterday and I feel great. My FS is is worried that there will be too many and they will not be of good quality and we have to freeze them whatever happens because my body is being so nuts. All crossed and will know whether I have good, fair, poor or pooh on Saturday.
EEEEEEEEEK squared!
polly - i'm so glad your FS has been able to give you some more hope in this journey. sometimes it's easy to feel jaded and as if nothing will ever work, but i'm sure your FS has lots of ideas to help you out! are you going to be doing IUI or IVF hun??
if the gonal-f pen is anything like the puregon one, it really doesn't hurt that much at all - the needles are very fine and super sharp so you barely notice it!! and don't worry about the pudgy belly - i have one of those and i think it makes it easier!!! :lol:
have you checked out the Long Term TTC & AC thread here - there are a bunch of lovely ladies in there (and one great gent!) who can help to support you through this
Melsta good on your embies well done
Thanks TL ... today I am happy with my body, now we just have to get through b/t tomorrow and we are yet closer ...
Dellydoo - Oh i hope it brings good news those numbers sound great ... not long to go until saturday now .... 2 more sleeps as they say !!! Saturday is D day for both of us, you with your embies and me with my ET ....
:stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl: I am sending you the STICKIEST of sticky vibes for Saturday and I am doing a seated dance for my eggies - be strong little fellas!
Hi everyone,
I'm new to this forum but wanted to let you know that i've been reading about your experiences and wish you all the best of luck. We have just completed our first IVF (antagonist) cycle which was unsuccessful. My stim scan last week left me reeling when my FS only found 1 follie. He was happy for me to go ahead and on Monday I had my first OPU. While the egg was collected it fertilised abnormally so we're back to square one and waiting to do #2 in January. Was really difficult in recovery listening to others being told they had 14 and 21 eggs (although I wish them all the best and my thoughts are with them). At the time I was happy to have even 1. Has anyone one else had a similar experience? Does it get easier to cope with the disappointments?
Hi Mon
I don't know if it gets easier, I am going through my very first cycle and am due for pick up tomorrow. My FS is not very hopeful of a positive result because I have too many. It is your very first though so this is how they judge how the body will react to the drugs within the cycle. You must be on too low a dose.
Hang in there sugar!
Just wanted to send some get well soon vibes to BW - rest up, hope your feeling better soon.
Hi to everyone else, I hope you are all doing ok... and wishing everyone the very best of luck :hug:
Hi Dellydoo,
Thanks for replying so quickly. I was on Gonal f 225 and didn't have any side effects so I had a feeling that not much was happening. As one of the FN's said things can only get better from here and apparently you can take up to 600iu of Gonal f. Good luck tomorrow - I'm sure everything will go really well. Don't worry about the OPU - mine was a cinch and I'm normally pretty wussy. Are you having the "twilight sedation"? I'd highly recommend it!
Mon73, it's a very fine line they tread on your first cycle trying to find out how your body will respond - they don't want to under or overstimulate you (not sure if you've read much about BW...). i'm sure next time they'll do something a little different. my understanding of boost cycles (just from picking up a couple of small comments from my FS) is that, once they start you on a particular dose, they can't alter it the same as they can in a down reg cycle... so it may be a little trial and error for you til they find the perfect balance
i had 300iu of puregon this cycle, got 59 follies, 22 eggs at epu - and ended up with only 4 fertilised properly - so it's definitely a game of guess work!
i too had the sedation - and woke up needing the loo big time - argued with them in recovery cos i was awake enough to know i needed to take myself off to the loo! as i mentioned, i had 22 eggs, so quite a few jabs in there and a fair bit of bleeding, but only til i'd had a chance to go to the loo - it was weird!
dellydoo - chances are you'll be a bit tender due to the hormone levels - you need to be really conscious of keeping water and gatorade type drinks up, check your weight to see if you're putting on weight dramatically (BW gained a couple of kilo's in 36 hours) and remember - hospital is NOT a bad thing if it helps you get through this! good luck tomorrow hun
No I am having "morning glory" I have been on 300iu Puregon and feel like a hippo. I am so glad to hear the Op is not too bad have been sweating on it. I am just upset my beautician has cancelled as I was going to have a wax tonight to have a gorgeous surface area for tomorrow - I wanted my hoo hoo to go down in history as the prettiest one they have ever seen! Oh Well
Mon73 - BG is right very fine line however I know it is heart breaking to hear everyon getting good eggs and only getting a few yourself
DD- Tender is something KEEP UP The Water! (Mum issuses here)
Hi to everyone
dellydoo - i was very stressed about the EPU, especially considering how many follies and how swollen i knew my ovaries were. it truly wasn't that bad - the only thing i've noticed is that the pain killers (they recommend panadeine) hasn't reacted well with my tummy so i've been ouchies in my actual tum - not around my ovaries. had i not been on leave (and not suffering from the codeine) i'd have been able to go back to work today, two days after the procedure. i only took pain killers for the EPU that first day - and then yesterday was because i had a migraine which was bordering on a migraine....
feeling much better this afternoon now that i seem to have flushed my system of the pain meds...