Emerald Star, if it helps, I wish I weighed 73kg!! I weighed 62kg when I met DH (1994 ) and that's about right for my height and build. At the start of this year, my weight was double your starting weight (115kg). I've lost a bit, but still have a long, long way to go. To be honest, I'd be happy right now to get back to double digits...
Star-bright, I think some Dr's choose the antagonist protocol for poor (or suspected poor) responders. My Dr only seems to be trying it because I've been pushing to try something different after 3 failed down reg cycles, not because I respond poorly..
Coco, I remember you posting here before, but welcome again. In response to your questions:
1. There's no reason why you couldn't start with an unmedicated cycle. If you're not comfortable with the meds, just ask if you can do that. It's your body, they can't force you into a treatment you don't want. My first IUI was unmedicated (my FS's choice, not mine) and I think he used the cycle to observe my natural hormone levels, confirm I O'd on my own, etc. If you do take clomid or FSH injections (puregon or gonal-f) then there is certainly a risk of having too many follicles mature and release eggs, however they usually start you at a low dose to avoid that.
2. Probably. My IUI's cost much less than that (~$600, ~$100 out of pocket) but I've noticed that there are some huge price disparities in this treatment.
3. I have a very regular cycle and unexplained infertility too. The medications are supposed to improve your chances of success. The question in fertility treatments is how much you are ready and willing to do to increase your chances. Are the drugs worth it if they only increase your chances by a few %. I've reached a stage where I'll do anything to increase our chances (hence starting acupuncture), but that doesn't mean you've reached that stage or ever will.
4. I haven't, but I have heard of it being done, particularly if someone has a short LP or spotting for a few days before their period each month. It is common to test progesterone levels at 7dpo to see if you are producing enough. If you do an unmedicated cycle you can ask about that. If you do a medicated cycle clomid often boosts your progesterone production (progesterone supps less likely to be needed) and FSH injections often reduce your LP (progesterone supps much more likely to be needed).
And at that point ladies, I've run out of time. Have to go mop the kitchen floor before my MIL gets here. She's taking me out for lunch because I'm home from work. And I'm home from work because, after ignoring it for 6 weeks while I was insanely busy at work, now that I'm not as busy our m/c has hit me like a ton of bricks this week... To be honest, I'd rather stay home and get it all out, but DH is worrying and I know he'd be upset about me staying home. He actually stayed home with me yesterday because he didn't want me to be alone. It's sweet, but he goes out of his way to stop me crying when I think that's probably exactly what I should be doing...
Sorry is a very quick post as I have to run out the door and pick DH up from work.
Am still plodding along in my TWW. Should have final BT on Mon 16th, but have another blood test tomorrow to check progesterone levels.
We are moving house tomorrow so we have heaps to do (hence why only a very quick post). While it's been busy organising the move, it's taken my mind off thinking about the TWW which is good.
Welcome Coco, and hi to all the other gals in here too. Sorry I don't have time to respond to all of you.
Anyway I must fly so I hope everyone is going well with whatever stage you're at. I will hopefully have more time to post after we have moved house.
Rob - What an inspirational Poem....I have printed it and stuck it in my bedroom.....i'll read it everytime i feel down and when i feel things are not going my way...thankyou!!
To all you lovely ladies (( HELLO!!!! )) and i will speak soon..have to go make dinner and i'll check back later.
This is my first post not only to Belly Belly but to any internet forum. That probably sounds as though I have been living under a rock, but now that I have started reading these I finally know that I am not alone. My partner and I have been TTC for 18 months now, I had a miscarriage about 2 years ago and ever since then I have been obsessed. I have since been diagnosed with an underactive thyroid, been on and off clomid and 6 weeks ago had a 8cm dermoid removed from my right overy. To make matters worse, my OBGYN has told me that if I want to start IVF (which I do) I have to wait another 3 months until my cycle returns to normal. It is so hard to stay hopeful when there are so many things knocking you back.
emma1977 - you have come to the right place feel free to say whatever you like..the ladies here are inspirational!! Also remember there were alot of other ladies here before us who are now pregnant..so no matter what life throws at you...it will happen...eventually! GL with everything
Meg ~ GL with your next cycle - hope you can do it soon. Hugs
Juniper ~ So sorry hun, you've had to go through all that. You probably do need to grieve, thats so sweet of your DH though. Hugs
Wishes ~ Hope all is well in your TWW and GL with the moving.
Emma ~ Hi and That is a bit too worry about but as Emerald says, there have been plenty of people that have got their BFP's and everyone here will help you through. All the best!
Hope you are all well - I have not been on BB much lately but you are in my thoughts. I did a quick scan and of course read Rob's poem - bad idea at work - got the tears rolling down, but not too bad! It was a lovely poem - sometimes I think it is hard to put into words how we feel and that helps!
I'm really just a lurker these days as have not been posting much - but I'm still sending babydust to you all! I hope you have all been coping OK in this warm weather - I feel really sorry for those in SA.
Anyway - just a quick one - yet again. I'm at work and hoping to leave early being Friday! I'm going to try catch up with all your goss and where you are all at on the weekend!
Hope you're all well and looking forward to a good weekend.
Just a quick post, trying to spend some quality time with DH before he has to fly out again for work for another fortnight Have (quickly) read through where everyone is at:
Rob - what a BEAUTIFUL poem... so moving. Luckily my tears have dried before DH finished mowing the lawn, or he'd be wondering what's wrong with me! You've described the struggle for children so eloquently.
Juniper76 - I hope you are doing OK, and that the MIL lunch was not too painful. You are right to want to let your sadness out, boys are wired differently to us, aren't they?! My DH didn't seem to know what to do after our M/C, I think its natural for them to want to be able to "fix" things.
Emma 1977 and coco1411 - I'm a newbie to this forum too - doing IUI.
There's more I wanted to say to people, but better go and spend that quality time... sending sticky vibes to everyone!
Afternoon girls, here is something to take your mind off of TTC ... I have been married to my DH for 11 years now. About 5 years ago the in laws decided not to ask us over for christmas, so since then we have just had christmas home on our own.
My in laws have nothing to do with our kids. Just remember this included no birthday calls, cards or anything not even from his parents. Funnily enough today my sister in law has decided to ask us over for christmas lunch with them all.
I don't want to be a pesimist but I am worried for our younger 2 kids. They have never understood why there grandma and grandpa have had nothing to do with them. Always asking why they don't visit us when we are only 2 farms over from the others. I just tell them it's nothing they have done, that everyone is different and it's better for people not to visit if they don't want to otherwise it will be unpleasant.
There wil be 6 other kids there on the day that have a Bond if you like, or relationship with their grandparents, I am worried how this will affect our kids, as they are 9 (10 next week) and 11. I don't want to put them in a situation that may affect the rest of their lives.
What do I do. Do we say yes and risk it, or do we say no and protect our kids from the unkown. Ok ladies help, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.
Rob - I don't have any kids..so my opinion is not based on experience...I personally think you should attend and go with the flow..i think the in laws will probably make a real effort with you and your family as not to look like "sticklers" in front of everyone else..i also think the children may enjoy getting to know the grandparents abit.. if the day doesn't work out then you'll know for next year...I was close with my inlaws and DH has 4 sisters, every xmas we spent with his family until a couple of years ago there was a huge family feud between siblings...every year since then they have invited us for xmas and you can see the pretences and cut the tension with a knife (all kids are oblivious, they're just happy to see cousins and play) so for the past 2 years i organise holidays away so then i can decline without looking like the *****y SIL...easier to say "oh what a shame we are going to ....." rather than "no thanks, i hate xmas with you!!" thats what i would really like to say. Anyway i think you should give it a go once and then take it from there.
It sounds like there is lots of happy and sad news in here, and I think that is why I stopped visiting this site for a while... Sometimes you just need to get away from it all.
I am back, and hoping for some advice and encouragement as I embark on my first round of IVF. I think I have seen some of you before, maybe on another thread...
AF just arrived today, and doctor putting me on some meds tomorrow for this cycle 9Yasmin then Lucrin), then hopefully next cycle the IVF process starts. Very exciting and nerve racking too... Just don't want to get my hopes up that this could work!! But also want it so so badly it hurts. And I know you all know how I feel, so thank you for just listening....
I'm still trying to work out what is actually involved in the IVF procedure... my doctor has told me, but you know when you are in there, you just can;t get your head around it all. Any sites you guys know of that give detailed descriptions of what happens and when, and what all the drugs are and what they do etc?
Babytruj - back!! Sorry to hear your IUI's didn't work out and it has come to this....in my opinion I feel more confident with IVF (even though it hasn't worked yet) than i did with IUI. I don't know exactly what sites to refer you to, but what i did was google the name of the drug etc.....I am with ivf australia and if you ggogle their site there is information on the procedure there somewhere..the rest i learned from the girls on here...someone always has an answer or explanation for you....and you just pick up things as you go...the more times you have to go through this ordeal the more you learn!! Don't be afraid to ask anything...all the girls are great!! GL and i hope you get the support you need here...Any particular Questions?? Ask away!!
Hi ladies! Thanks so much for just being here. Lunch with the MIL turned into lunch, afternoon tea and late night shopping. We had fun and even started our Christmas present shopping. DH was out yesterday afternoon with my parents and he decided to tell my Dad about our m/c. We hadn't until now because he doesn't want my Mum to know (long story - she can be difficult and I can't handle that right now). Anyway, this means that the news is slowly spreading through those closest to us... I ended up going out for lunch with Dad today (yes, DH filled up my day again!) but he didn't say anything, which was a relief.
But on the brighter side, we had our new dishwasher delivered and installed today! We're yet to test it out though...
Emma, hi and welcome! I hope those three months pass very quickly and your first IVF cycle works a treat!
Rob, if there's a chance it will allow them to develop a relationship with their grandparents then it sounds like a good idea. Probably best to have an escape plan up your sleeve though? I hope it does go well if you decide to go.
babytruj, we all have times when we need to step back and avoid other people's problems to concentrate on our own. I hope your first IVF cycle works a treat too! I know there are some great websites out there which explain the procedures, but do you think I can remember them? I just googled "IVF protocols" and the first result that came up was for the Advanced Fertility Center of Chicago. They have some very detailed explanations with lots of pretty pictures of follicles. And as Emerald Star mentioned, most of the Aussie clinics will have a description on their websites. If you check out the one I mentioned, you want to look at the "Long Lupron" protocol. Lupron is the US name for Lucrin. And also as Emerald Star said, if you have any particular questions we're all here for you!
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Emerald Star - thank you - I know my DH feels the same way - that there is more control with IVF> I was just so scared of all the drugs and self injecting that has to be done. I HATE needles, but my last IUI cycle they made me do injections of Gonal F at home, and I did it! So I decided I was ready!
Junipoer - Thanks for the advice. That is a very intereting site, and I have marked it as a favorite to look at in future!
Hi everyone else, Hope we all have a good weekend.
Babytruj- I agree with the others- my suggestion would be to do your research to arm yourself with plenty of information then go to your FS with a list of questions. I'm with Queensland Fertility Group and their website has an area called resources with fact sheets available for all the different procedures. I was also given a step-by-step guide to the process which explained in plain language what you can expect at every step in the process. I actually found that a handy tool to copy and give to my MIL and other well-intentioned but poorly-informed friends and family. If you're interested, PM me your email address and I'll send it to you. Good luck!
Rob- Ooh, families are tricky, aren't they?! First of all I preface this by saying that I don't have kids but I'm an aunty many times over and my nieces and nephews range in age from 2 to 12. My suggestion would be to go along and see what happens. I totally understand your concern about the effect on the little kids but they are getting to an age where they can make their own judgements about things. Unfortunately, difficult people and relationships are a part of life and if they can have some experience with dealing with such things in a safe environment with you to explain and soothe their concerns then I think that's a good thing. By the way- you are obviously an excellent mother. xx
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Hi ladies do you mind if i ask some A/C vetrans a question i am in the PGD IVF thread we lost our daughter to genetic reasons and i am currently doing my 1st cycle and i'm on day 4 of stimming my worry is my E2 levels i was supose to start last month but high E2 on day 1 cancelled that cycle so i went back on my vitex and got my E2 down to 187 this month so i got the go ahead anyway my BT on day 3 of stimms my E2 was 907 and i was told to start orgalutran the next morning day 4 is this normal i thought most start orgalutran on day 6 is my E2 a bit high my FS said she was happy with the progress and said i am responding well but i am concerned it will get to high and they will cancel my cycle has anyone else had levels like mine
Hi ladies cant believe how much things can change in a day!
Rob it's always hard to know what to do with family maybe the SIL is putting out an olive branch to try to bridge the relationship with the inlaws. Maybe Emerald is right go along see what happens and play it by ear? Good luck for Wednesday I'll be for you
juniper76 it's sounds like your DH is lovely and really wants you to try and move forward I'm sure nothing will ever replace the pain of your loss but your doing great trying to move forward and achieve your dream
babytruj & ferrals4
AFM I had acupunture today and was told to rest as my blood pressure is a bit low. Did my POAS this morning and could have sworn I saw a faint line...they don't work great for me have my BT tomorrow so hopefully that will give me my FET date....it should probably be this Wednesday too
) and that's about right for my height and build. At the start of this year, my weight was double your starting weight (115kg). I've lost a bit, but still have a long, long way to go. To be honest, I'd be happy right now to get back to double digits... 
To be honest, I'd rather stay home and get it all out, but DH is worrying and I know he'd be upset about me staying home. He actually stayed home with me yesterday because he didn't want me to be alone. It's sweet, but he goes out of his way to stop me crying when I think that's probably exactly what I should be doing... 
you have come to the right place feel free to say whatever you like..the ladies here are inspirational!! Also remember there were alot of other ladies here before us who are now pregnant..so no matter what life throws at you...it will happen...eventually! GL with everything
Have (quickly) read through where everyone is at:
I hope you are doing OK, and that the MIL lunch was not too painful. You are right to want to let your sadness out, boys are wired differently to us, aren't they?! My DH didn't seem to know what to do after our M/C, I think its natural for them to want to be able to "fix" things.
I'm a newbie to this forum too - doing IUI.
Lunch with the MIL turned into lunch, afternoon tea and late night shopping. 
First of all I preface this by saying that I don't have kids but I'm an aunty many times over and my nieces and nephews range in age from 2 to 12. My suggestion would be to go along and see what happens. I totally understand your concern about the effect on the little kids but they are getting to an age where they can make their own judgements about things. Unfortunately, difficult people and relationships are a part of life and if they can have some experience with dealing with such things in a safe environment with you to explain and soothe their concerns then I think that's a good thing. By the way- you are obviously an excellent mother. xx
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that our little embies survive the thaw.
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