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thread: Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - October 2008

  1. #109
    Registered User

    Oct 2008
    Melbourne
    97

    Hi Eveyone - what a busy day in our forum

    21 -fingers crossed that AF is still staying away

    JBM - good luck for your ET on Friday, see you in the TWW

    Curlygirl - hope your trigger went well

    Sarah - Welcome, great that you get an appt in Dec - much better than waiting till Jan

    On Tra K - good luck for EPU on Friday

    BabyTruj - fingers crossed that you and DH caught a egg and on your way - sticky vibes

    Smithy - you are amazing for keeping up with all the posts - how do you do it?

    Bel - great news on your ET and so many snowbubs, see you in the TWW

    Jodie65- hope you had a good Thursday

    Wishingbaby - hope AF comes soons so you can start a new cycle

    Mels77 - fingers crossed you can do a FET next cycle

    Sorry to anyone that I didn't mention - struggling to keep up with all our wonderful ladies. Good thoughts to eveyone.

    Take care,
    LNB

  2. #110
    barney Guest

    LNB..hey hunny well your doing a great job there to hun with all them posts how do you eva remember?? i always write down all the names first on a bit of paper then i can keep up but gee its getting hard hey !!hope your good any way chicky xxoo

    SARAH MRS M..woohoo for you my sweet not long to go now then well done youll love dr soo we did any way he actually listens to us and i can email him at any time so his great and i hope he can help with that BFP..

    AFM still spotting a little bit but its (tmi) brown so all good i think ?? i hope ??

    so have a great friday all of you and keep positive were all here for each other and no matter who were all very strong women and we can do this rite were all gonna get our bfp soon hang in there never give up .
    3 cheers for all you girls

  3. #111
    Yvette1278 Guest

    Hey Peoples,

    I'm back but feeling very incomfortable at the moment.

    Ruth08 - Great to hear such fantastic news about your 3 embies. Amazing, see I told you it's not all about the quanity?

    I had my EPU last Tuesday 14th and I was lucky enough to get 26 eggs. My last stim cycle I got 20 and was in so much pain for around a week. Yesterday (Thurs 16th) I went in for my transfer (7 embryo's of of 26 eggs - Transfered 2 froze 5) and before I went in I felt fantastic. Even drove my car there and back. (Half hour each way). Anyway, started the crinone last night and haven't slept a wink, woke up really crampy with hot sweats. I can tolerate pain quite well but gee it hurt. I now know who is the culprit. CRINONE !!! It really is the worst.

    I am scheduled for my BT on 30th. 13 more crinone applications to go! AND COUNTING!!

    Bel - When is your transfer scheduled for? I have my fingers crossed real hard for you. We are all there for you.

    Ruth08 - We are now going through the dreaded together, Let's pray for and some . It's our turn, don't you think? This goes for you too Bel!!

    Sorry if I missed anyone?

  4. #112
    Registered User

    Oct 2008
    Melbourne
    174

    Hi Yvette - your numbers sound great! What a haul! Very best for the TWW (agree - crinone = evil).
    A question for you if you don't mind - why did you do ICSI? I had 25 eggs on my first EPU and 7 fertilised, 2 didn't progress (in the end we transferred 1 and froze the other 4). FS thought next time they'd do ICSI because they expected a much higher fertilisation rate (and told us there was a problem in the communication b/w spm and eggs). Would be grateful for your thoughts if I need to have another EPU about whether to do ICSI (tho fingers crossed my 4 frosties are enough to avoid it!)
    mels

  5. #113
    Registered User

    Sep 2008
    Gladstone
    169

    hiya ladies
    I have Brought our APP with DR SOO forward now .
    i was wondering what test i should do before we go down to save time as we are interstate and if we should we make a app with the IVF westmead for the following day?

    thanks
    sarah

  6. #114
    Yvette1278 Guest

    Hi Mels,

    The reason we did ICSI is becuase my DH's swimmers and my eggs do not have the same chemical match. In simpler words, he does not have the pin number or the key to get through the door. Also he has low sperm count.

    Since we started the IVF treatment my DH has been taking Menevit. It has helped so much with the quality of his swimmers and you can visually see the difference in the appearence. Menevit is availble from most chemists or can be ordered in. It is the brother drug to Elevit.

    I am one year younger than you are (30) and because we are young and this is a male factor for us, that is why we produce high volumes of eggs. We are healthy young women.

    If I were you, I would 200% stick to the ICSI.

    On my first EPU, I got 20 eggs - 19 mature, 1 immature. Out of the 19 I ended up with 4 quality embyro's for transfer. Transferred 2 froze 2.

    This EPU I got 26 eggs, again 19 mature, 7 immature. Out of the 19 I got 7 quality embyro's for transfer, Transferred 2 and froze 5.

    I asked FS yesterday at transfer if I should be aiming for quality rather than quanity and he said it does not make a difference either way. Odd's are still the same.

    Hope this helps.

  7. #115
    Registered User

    Oct 2008
    Melbourne
    174

    Yvette - immensely helpful. thank you. i will definitely proceed to icsi next time if i need to go through the whole thing again. sounds like we have the same prob as you do (non-talking spm and eggs). sounds like we were very lucky to get 5 good embies the first time around without icsi. very best of luck for this time for you - my fingers are firmly crossed!
    mels

  8. #116
    mmama Guest

    Hello ladies
    IVe come on to check on the "ivf with westmead" girls and alas our thread has been closed I dont know why, i dont think i can keep up with everyone on this thread so my apoligies in advance!

    Mrs M - i think if you go back to the ivf westmead thread you can read all the tests im having done. I dont know if i need them all but im getting them just in case. I do not want to get there and Dr Soo says oh you need a test for Rubella etc. The most important one are;

    Bloods-
    HIV/Syphillus/Gonnoreah/Hep/Rubella immunity
    Pap smear
    Baseline ultrasound (after AF is finished to check to see everything is quite in there)
    Hormone count Day 5 and 21 bloods (FSH level indicate ovarion reserve at start of cycle, day 21 detect if O has occured)

    DP needs-
    Bloods as above for nasties and hormone count
    Sperm analysis


    It cant hurt to get;
    Dye test (still dont know the name) to check to see if tubes are clear
    & Start prenatal vitamins (im just on a multi and a folate, Dp on multi and zinc)

    Hope this helps...speaking of Dr Soo, ive brought my appointment forward to January 8 this way DP will still be on Xmas hols so we avoid that whole telling work scenario yay time is just flying by it feels!!!!

    MMAMA


  9. #117
    Registered User

    Jan 2006
    Sydney
    1,226

    Hi Ladies..

    Just wanted to let you know that the lovely Bel is in hospital with OHSS. She had her transfer Monday and has been in pain since her EPU. Unfortunately the pain got so bad yesterday, she was admitted and got some morphine to help her.

    She tells me her tummy looks 9mths pg due to all the fluid she is retaining.

    Just quietly - and don't tell anyone...but I think she is just a little bit (ok a lot) pg. OHSS usually gets worse as soon as HCG starts producing. So yesterday being 4 days after tf sounds just a little too fishy to me. Anyway, I really hope I am right and those perfect little blasties she had put back and doing their stuff.

    Just wanted to let you know why she is MIA. I really hope she won't be in hosp for long and makes a super-speedy recovery..

  10. #118
    Registered User

    Sep 2008
    1,350

    Mrs M .. I like you, wanted all my tests completed prior, I even had most BT's done twice as I was deciding at the time which clinic to go to, so I was seeing 2 FS until I made up my mind, which one "felt right" ..
    The test's required by the two clinics were fairly different, they both wanted their own s/a done - so I booked weeks ahead into a SA clinic that was reputable and each clinic used and approved of. (it can takes weeks to get in here in Melb) ..Make sure it says s/a - and checks for antibodies as well, not just the s/a ...... I have kept the blood test records if you would like me to email you the most advanced BT Request ?? - 12 VILES OF BLOOD - so it was comprehensive .. some take a week or so to come back so that would be usefull to have done earlier ...

    Be careful of the HSG (ultrasound after they insert a tube through your cervix and run dye through) painfull and one clinic told me, for me it was an unnesasary procedure - even though it showed I had a blocked tube - a vag ultrasound with a written report would be good . Let me know if you want the more advanced blood test requests .. hope that helps

    Dont forget the folate

  11. #119
    Registered User

    Sep 2008
    1,350

    Minnemouse

    Ohh best wishes for Bel - I hope as you suggested it's a very positive out of a negative


    Get well soon Bel xxx

  12. #120
    Registered User

    Sep 2008
    Gladstone
    169

    hi girls
    thanks for that now i will see my GP and get all the test now .
    bring on the 15/12
    sarahxxxx

  13. #121
    Registered User

    Jan 2005
    1,271

    Hey thanks Minnie for letting us know about Bel, poor little thing, i hope she gets better soon and part of the 9 months belly is because she is pregnant already!!!

    Lots of love Bel, thinking of you!

  14. #122
    Registered User

    Aug 2008
    Perth
    54

    hi ladies, thank you all for your kind words, it's good to know i'm not alone in this roller coaster ride!

    i just went for EPU this morning and we had all 3 eggs retrieved. so the small one did catch up after the trigger fingers crossed now to have them all fertilized and hopefully we can do ET on monday or wednesday.

    bel, hope you get well soon!

    on tra_k, hope your retrieval went well. we're exactly on the same timeline

    yvette, looks good! good luck with the tww. hope to join you soon and hope the crinone won't kill me!

    21andTTC#1, how are you? still no af? hope it turns out to be what we all want to be

    sarah, welcome and good luck for the tests

    it's too many of us for me to keep track, but my hugs and best wishes to you all wonderful ladies!

    better get some sleep now...

  15. #123
    barney Guest

    aww thanks for that info minnimouse

    BEL..oh hun you poor thing i had no idea you were in hospital .
    i hope you get much better soon and this leads you to a bfp and then it will all be worth it -im sure it will any way hun
    so just no im thinking of you and i hope you get better chicky babe
    GET WELL OUR SWEET BEL AND GO GET THAT BFP

  16. #124
    BellyBelly Member

    Sep 2007
    Queensland
    1,137

    Poor Bel... hope you get better soon!

    I'm just feeling a bit down today. For some reason I think that we are going to get a BFN... I just have a sense... I know I'm only 4 days post transfer but I just have a "feeling". I have a few questions that I was wondering if anyone could answer:

    Generally - how long between a stim cycle and a FET? (we have just one in the freezer though it's not a great one)

    Also, I know implantation generally occurs between 6-10 DPO... so does that mean it still happens 6-10 days past EPU?

    Smithy - hope your jabbing is going well and that AF makes her final exit properly now!

    Curly girl - glad to hear your EPU went well! All the best for your growing little ones - let us know how your embies are doing!

  17. #125
    Registered User

    Oct 2008
    Melbourne
    97

    Hi Everyone -

    Ruth - I'm not sure when implantation occurs in IVF, I was googling it yesterday myself and still have no idea. Think it might also depend on what day post EPU the ET is done.

    I have just had a FET the cycle immediately after a stim cycle. A lot of people will say to wait a month and have a natural cycle. Our FS said we can try a FET cycle straight away because if I don't ovulate or things don't look right in the scan, they will cancel the ET. She said it was also depending on how you feel emotionally. We went ahead with it as my scans were good, I had a 22mm follicle which showed normal ovulation and am now in the TWW. My age was also a factor as I don't want to lose any month if I can help it. Hope that helps.

    Hope everyone else is going well.

    Take care,
    LNB

  18. #126
    Registered User

    Jan 2005
    1,271

    Ruth, I know you are with SIVF, generally they won't allow you to do a FET straight after the stim cycle, you need to wait for 1 month in between. You can do FET back to back. But worth to ask FS if you can.

    Regarding implantation timing, trigger time in a stim cycle is considered O time, if your have 5-day blastie transferred, than the implantation time should be about 1 to 4 day after your transfer date based on you theory. I hope that makes sense...

    Try to relax and stay positive hun, the time I got pregnant, I absolutely felt nothing, it was only like 3 days before b/t, I had this sudden feeling in my lower tummy like embie trying to snuggle deeper and it only last about 3 seconds. That was about 10 days after ET.

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