Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - October 2008

Curlygirl - On my 2nd cycle, I had only 3 eggs (from scan) and we went to EPU, 3 were retrieved and all 3 fertilised. Two were then transfered, but unfortunately for us we got a BFN. Have you heard back from the clinic yet? Hope that you have recovered from your awful bleed experience and you are right, it is certainly not an easy ride. But hang on in girl, your BFP I am sure is just around the corner.

Shelbee - sorry but I have never had a lap done, but just wanted to say welcome and wish you all the very best in your TTC journey.

JBM - fingers crossed so tightly for third time lucky.

Well had better do some more work.

Until later ;)

Hi wouldloveabubba - just saw your question. My DH asked the same thing. Our FS/Clinic told us to abstain 3 days before EPU (in case of multiple little ones plus infection) and then 4 days after ET/FET (I am sure just due to infection also). Hope that this helps.

jodie, thank you. yes, i will start trigger tonight. it is happening!! i hope these little ones survive all the way through. have to try to be more positive about all this baby business ;)

oh, i'm sorry for being so selfish :redface: i wish everyone all the best whatever stage you are!

Thanks for your response JodieC65 - it makes sense, Im trying to cover all the bases ..

TTC#1 - you are so strong waiting to do a poas - im so impatient .. good on you and fingers crossed for you

Hi Everyone - Thanks for all the sticky vibes !

21 - you are so strong to not POAS. Fingers crossed that you don't see AF for 9 months.

Wouldloveabubba - hope all is going well as you start IVF

JBM - good luck for Friday, see you in the TWW

Jodiec65 - hi, hope all is well

Curlygirl - good luck for the trigger, I cried getting a blood test for no reason apart from being full of hormones - such a ride

Shellbe- welcome, sorry I can't offer any advice on the lap

Bel, Ruth08, BDT - hope ET's went well and sending you all lot's of sticky vibes, see you in the TWW

To everyone that I have missed - good thoughts for you all.

Take care everyone,
LNB

evening girls just popping my head in im exspecting a friend to come in from another thread we had going and her name is sarah - hope you find us hunny .

JBM..yay best of luk for friday hun thinking of you

BEL..my friend im thinking of you always i hope all your pain has gone and you ready for your little embie

RUTH.. you to hun thinking of you for your transfer

JODIE C.. hey hun thanks for always thinking of me your a real sweety

21ANDTTC.. THINKING OF YOU AND I HOPE AF DOES not COME also thanks for thinking of me the other day hun xxoo

DEE..how you going hun,good to see you ,i hope your good

IM THINKING OF YOU ALL there is just so many of us its hard to keep up :wall: but remember we can all do this ITS JUST LIKE EATING THAT ELEPHANT ONE SMALL BITE AT A TIME :D

GIRLS if i didnt say your name i REALLY DO love ya its so hard to keep up with every one, but im following you all ok ..

AFM..well first injection down and dh did it like a champ i suppose after 3 cycles hes use to it but any way go my dh ..so only about another 11 to go BRING THEM ON

thanks smithy i found you's lol
as smithy said my name is sarah i am a mother to 3 wonderful kids 14, 12, 11 and a truckies wife lol
we are going to try ivf as i had my tubes down after my youngest daughter with (ex) so now with my new hubby we want 1 more so here we are i'm ring dr soo office tomorrow to see if we can bring forward oour app to december insted of jan.
we are going though ivf at westmead

sarahxx

hi everyone, just popping in from a little thread we had going for first IVF cyclers ...

I'm on my first cycle with EPU on Friday. Last week after my first scan, we thought this cycle was going to be cancelled due to low egg numbers and/or end up being a collect-and-freeze with no fresh transfer, but progesterone level is behaving itself and more follies have joined the party so we're pretty excited about the turn-around.

curlygirl - I see you're already over here ... good luck with your EPU on Friday

Yvette1278 - thanks for your "book" in the other thread, made for interesting reading, hope your EPU was a great success

Good luck to everyone and I look forward to getting to know more of you.

Hey Guys

Sorry for being MIA for the last couple of days. I was getting a bit too addicted to this site, and wasn?t getting any work done Just taken some time this evening to catch up with where everyone is. Thanks for all the support and info.
Shelbee ? I think that it may be worth TTC naturally for a couple of months. My Doc says that the lap can clear the system a bit and get rid of any minor blockages that may have been there to start. Its got to be better than IVF if you can do it naturally. I would give myself a couple of months and then try the IVF. I was also told not to try in my cycle after the lap/hysteroscopy, but I think that?s because the one they want me to go for (I haven?t been yet) has Xrays in, and its not safe for a baby to be conceived just after?
CurlyGirl ? Good Luck with the triggers and EPU. I hate needles, and just having a pregnyl in my bum gets me cringing? But you are so brave. Its what we have to go through to get the BFP
JBM ? Good luck with the transfer. What?s an ACU?
Lilmisshavachat ? I hope you feel better soon and your helping hand works
Wouldlovebubba ? What?s the harm in BD?ing? Surely there is no reason not to? Good luck with the IVF
21andTTC ? I always wait 1 week, as my cycles have been that long before. But it is the most frustrating wait. Good Luck!
Smithy ? sending lots of baby vibes your way with your IVF
BabyDreamtime ? How did the ET go?
Bel ? How are you doing?
Ruth ? Yay on your embies.
Mels77 ? I?m so sorry for you. It will happen for you. Keep positive
Where there?s hope ? I hope your FS will let you try the other method, but maybe the BD worked this month??
Everyone else, good luck with your cycle
AFM, I saw the doc today , and there is good news in that I have an eggie. She did an LH test as well, which was almost positive (how that can be) But She said I was likely to ovulate today or tomorrow, so she gave me a Pregnyl jab anyway as I was there, and DH and I are keen keen keen to get going here. So we DTD this evening (before my husband went out to play soccer with work colleagues) and will keep doing the BD this week to try and catch that Egg.
Otherwise, next cycle I?m going to have a Hysteroscopy. Doc has said not to try and conceive that month as I think the way they do it here is with an Xray, so not good for baby if it comes? That?s a good thing, As I?ll be in London during the time I am due to ovulate anyway, without DH, so no BD will happening over next month?s O period. After that we try for a few months, hoping my system is flushed out. I feel better as I have a bit of a direction and a ?what?s happening? for the next few months.
Hope you are all having good baby dreams, and your Eggs are good and strong and ready and waiting.

Goodnight
p.s. anyone on MSN/Skype?

Well, I have one on board! ET went well yesterday and I had acu before and after. I'm going again on Saturday. Good news: two days off work! Bad news: One of the 3 embies we got was a dud, 1 good one has gone in and the remaining one was not looking great so it might not be freezable! Argh I'm so angry - how can we end up with only 1 embie on board and no frosties! Grrrrr.

BabyTruj - I know what you mean about not getting any work done, I turn this site on before I turn my accounts package on at work ... talk about addictive .. wondering how everyone is going .. I need to keep a little diary so I dont have to keep reading back over the entries to see where everyone is at, it is so nice getting a little personal message..

Does any one have any idea's on how to make it easy to read the entries for the day ?

AFM: Oh yeah I am officially loosing my mind and its only day 2 .ha !!.. Did I inject in the correct position?? Maybe I did it too low ?? I should have watched that DVD another 20 times to be sure !!!! ohhh maybe I left the Puregon on the bench and didnt put it back in the fridge - oh I better drive back and make sure !!! so I have gone from worrying about the hair straightners being left on to the puregon being left on the bench - and its only day 2 ...

You ladies deserve a big :clap::clap: - you are all an inspiration to me and I am so happy I have found this site so we can all help each other xxxxx Be positive and know that good packages come to good people ....

morning girls i just come in to see if sarah found us and she has woohoo:dance:

WOULLOVEA BUBBA.. hey hun just wanted to say hi

BABYTRUJ..hey hun im going good thanks for asking about me hun and thinking of me ..

SARAH.. best of luk with dr soo today hun thats who were through im thinking of ya

RUTH..yay for the embie hun i hope you get a bfp

BEL..were are you hun thinking of you and your little embies

Hi everyone...best of luck with the various cycle stages you are in.

Bel- how'd transger go? xx

Hi girls,

Sorry I went MIA yesterday. A lot going on at home and we got pregnant yesterday!!!

We had 2 great blasties transferred. Embryologists didn't want to do 2, cause they said they were such good quality, but DH, FS and I stuck to our decision.

We had 4 blasties frozen, with another possible 2 still being monitored. Feel very blessed that our little ones did so well.

Still have quite a lot of pain though. FS said right ovary still very swollen and will be for another 3 weeks..GREAT!! And I've started getting that kind of "wind trapped" pain all the way up to my ribs.

Just going to spend today resting and relaxing.

A couple of quick personals..will try to get back on later.

Ruth- Congrats on the little one on board. I know it can be really hard when you possibly don't have any embies to freeze, but you and DH have done so well to get this far. AND I am :pray: for you that this little one is going to continue growing into a beautiful baby and you don't have to think about frosties.

Smithy- YAHOO for needles! What a week you have had girl. So glad to log on and see all is going well for you and DH. Am thinking of you.

All my other friends...thinking of you all.

Hugs Bel and 2 embies!!

Just to pop in to congratulate Ruth and Bel for embie on Board (or baby on board already :lol: )....lots of sticky vibes and grow grow grow...

So good to hear that you have a few frosties too Bel but I hope you don't need them...:dance:

Cuddlepie- Thanks for thinking of me. Big hugs to you.

AFM..clinic just called. Another embie just started hatching so has just been frozen. That makes 5 frosties in total. Am so very thankful for this result. I find EPU and afterwards so very hard, so feel blessed today.

Hugs again Bel

Hi Bel and Ruth just wanted to send you both lots of sticky vibes for your little embies on board. It fantastic my friends - make sure you pamper yourselves and rest up.

:goodluck:

Happy Thursday to everyone else, hope you are all doing well today.
J

Morning ladies sorry I have been MIA lately been busy with working lots.

Bel Great news bout transfer sending you lots of :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

Wouldloveabubba Hang in there the injections get easier. I know I've had a few "did I do that right" days

Ruth08 One embie still means a chance at success, they say it only takes one.

Babytruj Great news about eggie good luck with all the Bding

On tra_k :welcome: Good luck with EPU on friday

Mrs M :welcome:

Smithy Good luck with injections

JBM Good luck with transfer

Curlygirl Hang in there we are all on this journey together

Mezza Good luck keeping my fingers crossed for transfer for you

LNB Sending lots of :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

Neptune, 21andTTC#1, JodieC65, Millymoo8, BecD, Cuddlepie, Babydreamtime, Kahlan, Yvette 1278, Mels 77, Where there's hope Good luck with whichever point you are up to in your cycle, hang in there, good things come to those who wait.

AFM Got the results from Tuesdays BT my Progestrian was 0.4, LH was 1.6 and E2 was 12,000 so the nurse said that it indicated I had 12 eggs but had failed to release them so I was suffering from a very mild case of OHSS. Thankfully I didn't feel too much discomfort, all I was feeling was a slight pressure sensation like I needed to go to the bathroom all the time even though I didn't. So DP and I have been forbidden from BDing and I am to ring FS on first day of next AF visit. So I never thought I would be saying this but bring on AF the sooner she arrives the sooner I can get back into it.

hi girls - just have to tell you i've had goosebumps reading all the posts from all you TWW'ers - the TWW is such an exciting time. I have a brilliant feeling about this month for all of you. best of luck to all and keep the posts coming.
AFM - hcg levels dropped to 5, so hopefully i should be ok for FET this month, unless FS says otherwise.
yay to all! mels

...and wishingbaby, will pray for a fast AF visit for you.
mels

Hi Guys,

I just wanted to pop my head in and say good luck to everyone, at whatever stage of the cycle you are at. I am on my 2nd IUI cycle, do not know much about the ivf cycle as yet, and dont understand much of what is going on in here. I am learning though....

Special good luck to those in the TWW and with embs on board. I hope this time flys for you and you get your much deserved bfp at the end.

hi guys!

just an update, DP and I have appointment for wednesday to get his blood and sperm analysis results and praying all is ok. DP and I are thinking about having a courthouse wedding to get his army benefits such as private health for our ivf if needed but i want a nice wedding :( will just have to wait and see! ALSO im now 1 day late for AF and this has only happened once ( other than MC pregnancy) and that was about 4 months ago and it came on CD 29 so im a bit stumped, i had bad cramps and lower back pain yesterday but nothing showed! today i have no uterus pain but lower back ache today and still nothing just alot of lotion like CM. I dont think its a bladder or kidney infection as i dont have a fever or nausea or headaches. I did 2 preg tests sat arvo and sunday morning being 5 and 4 days bf exected AF and not done one since, what do u guys think? also i have been waking up about 5 30 am everyday and cant go back to sleep coz i feel fully awake! ive been taking elevit just incase but truly dont believe i am, im more upset as I know my cycles are 28 days and I at least had that positive that my cycle was good. I wish it would hurry up!

BEL- I hope your cycle has a wonderful ending!

Smithy- hey girl im still thinking of you!

mels77_ GO FET ive heard nothing but good news about it

wishingbaby- we are both waiting on our AF's sucks hey!

jodiec65- hey hun! hope all is well

cuddlepie- dont want you to feel left out so hey! how are ya?

possums- thanks for all the support!

wouldloveabubba- good luck with injections i can give em but cant stand em!

ruth- how cute a bub is on board must feel wonderful! think positive IT WILL STICK!

babytruj- hi there yeah im going to wait until next wednesday to test if it doesnt come. I doubt it wont though but u never know! i dont want irregular cycles GO AWAY!!!

tra_k, MRS M, curlygirl, - we havent met before so HI! good luck all

LNB- its hard waiting to not POAS, I want to trust me but dont want the dissapointment again and then knowing your AF is coming. baby dust to ya!

anyone else i may have missed i do apologise!

now i have a headache when is this witch gonna show!

ME 21
DP 21
TTC#1 for approx 2 years
CD 29 of 28 (well...supposed to be 28)

21 - you're amazing that you haven't tested again! espec being a day late. the suspense is killing me. the symptoms you describe could also be pg symptoms?? (I had increased cm when I was early pg). fingers crossed. mels

:stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl::bellyrubs::cheer : YAY FOR BEL WOOHOO HUNNY
your getting great results there and i could not be more happy for you and dh .
good on you hun for transfering 2 and sticking to your guns yay for you
smithy is so excited here :dance:

Hi 21, what you mentioned is very promising...I had CM and lower back pain when I was pregnant and that is the only difference I had, otherwise, had a bit cramp just like AF about to arrive...test it and come back tell us the good news!!!

im 2 nervous to test!

still no arrival but had such bad cramps for the past 2 days not as bad today though. Mayve its just stress. will give it another day i think, will let you guys know but it prob isnt anything exciting i prob have endo or pcos or something else just as exciting!

hiya girls
well i rang dr soo office and yay i changed our app to the 15/12 at 1pm
just had to share

sarah

Thank you everyone for the warm:welcome:

lilmishavachat - thanks for your help. Good luck to you also. Hope those ovaries get well and truly active for you. My cramping is lessening BUT I am still bleeding. I thought I was going to need a transfusion last night!! You are certainly right about this being the place to get all the help I need! Again, :goodluck: and I hope your cramping starts to subside.

JodieC65 - Thanks for your kind wishes. I wish you just as much luck! We will all get there in the end. :pray:

babytruj - :goodidea: I think I would like to try naturally (although it is the last thing I feel like doing right now!) My doc hasn't advised us against conceiving right away so there is only one way to find out if the plumbing has been cleared!! Sorry, did you say you haven't had your lap/hysteroscopy yet?? I am glad I did it....it was a process of elimination really. You are right about this site. I should be working but I am more concerned about reading bellybelly posts. Thank you for your advice.

It is SO hard to keep track of everyone in here so :goodluck:to all and may you all hear the pitter patter of little feet soon. :crossfingers:

By the way, is anyone having IVF at St George Private at Kogarah at the moment?? I may end up going back there for IVF and have only experienced IUIs there. How have you found the IVF process there??

Hi Eveyone - what a busy day in our forum :)

21 -fingers crossed that AF is still staying away

JBM - good luck for your ET on Friday, see you in the TWW

Curlygirl - hope your trigger went well

Sarah - Welcome, great that you get an appt in Dec - much better than waiting till Jan

On Tra K - good luck for EPU on Friday

BabyTruj - fingers crossed that you and DH caught a egg and on your way - sticky vibes

Smithy - you are amazing for keeping up with all the posts - how do you do it?

Bel - great news on your ET and so many snowbubs, see you in the TWW

Jodie65- hope you had a good Thursday

Wishingbaby - hope AF comes soons so you can start a new cycle

Mels77 - fingers crossed you can do a FET next cycle

Sorry to anyone that I didn't mention - struggling to keep up with all our wonderful ladies. Good thoughts to eveyone.

Take care,
LNB

LNB..hey hunny well your doing a great job there to hun with all them posts how do you eva remember?? i always write down all the names first on a bit of paper then i can keep up but gee its getting hard hey !!hope your good any way chicky xxoo

SARAH MRS M..:dance:woohoo for you my sweet not long to go now then well done youll love dr soo we did any way he actually listens to us and i can email him at any time so his great and i hope he can help with that BFP..

AFM still spotting a little bit but its (tmi) brown so all good i think ?? i hope ??

so have a great friday all of you and keep positive were all here for each other and no matter who were all very strong women and we can do this rite were all gonna get our bfp soon hang in there never give up .
3 cheers for all you girls :bluecheer::cheer::bluecheer:

Hey Peoples,

I'm back but feeling very incomfortable at the moment.

Ruth08 - Great to hear such fantastic news about your 3 embies. Amazing, see I told you it's not all about the quanity?

I had my EPU last Tuesday 14th and I was lucky enough to get 26 eggs. My last stim cycle I got 20 and was in so much pain for around a week. Yesterday (Thurs 16th) I went in for my transfer (7 embryo's of of 26 eggs - Transfered 2 froze 5) and before I went in I felt fantastic. Even drove my car there and back. (Half hour each way). Anyway, started the crinone last night and haven't slept a wink, woke up really crampy with hot sweats. I can tolerate pain quite well but gee it hurt. I now know who is the culprit. CRINONE !!! It really is the worst.

I am scheduled for my BT on 30th. 13 more crinone applications to go! AND COUNTING!!

Bel - When is your transfer scheduled for? I have my fingers crossed real hard for you. :crossfingers: We are all there for you. :grouphug:

Ruth08 - We are now going through the dreaded :2ww: together, Let's pray for :noaf: and some :pregnant::bfp:. It's our turn, don't you think? This goes for you too Bel!!

Sorry if I missed anyone?

Hi Yvette - your numbers sound great! What a haul! Very best for the TWW (agree - crinone = evil).
A question for you if you don't mind - why did you do ICSI? I had 25 eggs on my first EPU and 7 fertilised, 2 didn't progress (in the end we transferred 1 and froze the other 4). FS thought next time they'd do ICSI because they expected a much higher fertilisation rate (and told us there was a problem in the communication b/w spm and eggs). Would be grateful for your thoughts if I need to have another EPU about whether to do ICSI (tho fingers crossed my 4 frosties are enough to avoid it!)
mels

hiya ladies
I have Brought our APP with DR SOO forward now .
i was wondering what test i should do before we go down to save time as we are interstate and if we should we make a app with the IVF westmead for the following day?

thanks
sarah

Hi Mels,

The reason we did ICSI is becuase my DH's swimmers and my eggs do not have the same chemical match. In simpler words, he does not have the pin number or the key to get through the door. Also he has low sperm count.

Since we started the IVF treatment my DH has been taking Menevit. It has helped so much with the quality of his swimmers and you can visually see the difference in the appearence. Menevit is availble from most chemists or can be ordered in. It is the brother drug to Elevit.

I am one year younger than you are (30) and because we are young and this is a male factor for us, that is why we produce high volumes of eggs. We are healthy young women.

If I were you, I would 200% stick to the ICSI.

On my first EPU, I got 20 eggs - 19 mature, 1 immature. Out of the 19 I ended up with 4 quality embyro's for transfer. Transferred 2 froze 2.

This EPU I got 26 eggs, again 19 mature, 7 immature. Out of the 19 I got 7 quality embyro's for transfer, Transferred 2 and froze 5.

I asked FS yesterday at transfer if I should be aiming for quality rather than quanity and he said it does not make a difference either way. Odd's are still the same.

Hope this helps.

Yvette - immensely helpful. thank you. i will definitely proceed to icsi next time if i need to go through the whole thing again. sounds like we have the same prob as you do (non-talking spm and eggs). sounds like we were very lucky to get 5 good embies the first time around without icsi. very best of luck for this time for you - my fingers are firmly crossed!
mels

Hello ladies:hello:
IVe come on to check on the "ivf with westmead" girls and alas our thread has been closed :doh: I dont know why, i dont think i can keep up with everyone on this thread so my apoligies in advance!

Mrs M - i think if you go back to the ivf westmead thread you can read all the tests im having done. I dont know if i need them all but im getting them just in case. I do not want to get there and Dr Soo says oh you need a test for Rubella etc. The most important one are;

Bloods-
HIV/Syphillus/Gonnoreah/Hep/Rubella immunity
Pap smear
Baseline ultrasound (after AF is finished to check to see everything is quite in there)
Hormone count Day 5 and 21 bloods (FSH level indicate ovarion reserve at start of cycle, day 21 detect if O has occured)

DP needs-
Bloods as above for nasties and hormone count
Sperm analysis


It cant hurt to get;
Dye test (still dont know the name) to check to see if tubes are clear
& Start prenatal vitamins (im just on a multi and a folate, Dp on multi and zinc)

Hope this helps...speaking of Dr Soo, ive brought my appointment forward to January 8 :clap: this way DP will still be on Xmas hols so we avoid that whole telling work scenario yay time is just flying by it feels!!!!

MMAMA

Hi Ladies..

Just wanted to let you know that the lovely Bel is in hospital with OHSS. She had her transfer Monday and has been in pain since her EPU. Unfortunately the pain got so bad yesterday, she was admitted and got some morphine to help her.

She tells me her tummy looks 9mths pg due to all the fluid she is retaining.

Just quietly - and don't tell anyone...but I think she is just a little bit (ok a lot) pg. OHSS usually gets worse as soon as HCG starts producing. So yesterday being 4 days after tf sounds just a little too fishy to me. Anyway, I really hope I am right and those perfect little blasties she had put back and doing their stuff.

Just wanted to let you know why she is MIA. I really hope she won't be in hosp for long and makes a super-speedy recovery..

Mrs M .. I like you, wanted all my tests completed prior, I even had most BT's done twice as I was deciding at the time which clinic to go to, so I was seeing 2 FS until I made up my mind, which one "felt right" ..
The test's required by the two clinics were fairly different, they both wanted their own s/a done - so I booked weeks ahead into a SA clinic that was reputable and each clinic used and approved of. (it can takes weeks to get in here in Melb) ..Make sure it says s/a - and checks for antibodies as well, not just the s/a ...... I have kept the blood test records if you would like me to email you the most advanced BT Request ?? - 12 VILES OF BLOOD - so it was comprehensive .. some take a week or so to come back so that would be usefull to have done earlier ...

Be careful of the HSG (ultrasound after they insert a tube through your cervix and run dye through) painfull and one clinic told me, for me it was an unnesasary procedure - even though it showed I had a blocked tube - a vag ultrasound with a written report would be good . Let me know if you want the more advanced blood test requests .. hope that helps

Dont forget the folate

:comfort: Minnemouse

Ohh best wishes for Bel - I hope as you suggested it's a very positive out of a negative


Get well soon Bel xxx

hi girls
thanks for that now i will see my GP and get all the test now .
bring on the 15/12
sarahxxxx