Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception - October 2008

Good afternoon everyone,

I'm very knew to this so don't know all the abbreviations yet but can guess most!

Just to give you a brief overview, I have been through a rough time with OHSS and had a fresh transfer just over 3 weeks ago. I have been hospitalised twice because of my sever OHSS and after 4 blood tests, am still waiting to find out if my transfer has been successful! :(
My oestrogen levels were less than 350 in my last test last Wednesday and if they have not sharply increased (I had my 4th test this morning) than they don't hold much hope. I had spotting last wed and again today so I have a sinking feeling that things are not right.

If I had known better, I would have had a frozen transfer. The pain and worry of OHSS is too scary and emotional to go through again. I had 22 follicles collected, 1 x ET, and 7 more are frozen.

Is there anyone else who has been through anything similar?

Regards,
Spring

I just wanted to drop and say hello to everyone, I am thinking of you all. I'm flat out at work, so no time for peronals plus there are so many of us now!!!!

Welcome to the newbies - I think Spring, bub4m, drgirl! :p

Hello to everyone else, all teh best for the girls havign epu tomorrow - I think Smithy, I will check back in tomorrow.

Everyone else, keep up the good/hard work, it's great to have this place to be understood!

AFM: not much happening. BDing in a timely fashion ;) just so I feel like I am doing something. hasn't worked in 3 years, so don't know why I"m bothering, but I would rather have hope and the feeling of trying. I see the FS this Thursday to discuss the outcome of my failed cycle.

spring- welcome...sorry I havent been through anything similar

neptune- I know what you mean...we cant resume IVF until Jan, but will try naturally before then....I only have one tube left and it's in bad shape...but hey, miracles happen I figure and I like to feel like I am doing something towards the cause :)

paula- good luck!

hi girls

possums and neptune - your posts made me smile. i'm doing the same thing (trying 'naturally' this month) and day dreaming about the miracle (and irony) of conceiving naturally after having gone through ivf... hopefully we all become that miracle!

AFM - assuming my 'natural' efforts are to no avail, DH is going on a work trip and then I'll be praying for a visit from AF in mid-Nov so I can start a FET.

hope everyone's well
mels

Hello Ladies

So many in here it's hard to keep track.

Sorry no personals, I'm at work and having a breather so will catch up on all your stories soon.

AFM: No much happening. Upped my progynova tabs yesterday to 2 per day to hope my lining gets nice and think. Scan next Monday (2 days later than should be because of the weekend) and should be getting booked in for the FET for next Friday 7/11. My FS is so wonderful, after our BFN last Monday he rang me at home at 8.30pm to hope that I was o.k and to plan for the next transfer. I've never had a specialist call me at home, and in his own time as well. It makes me feel so nice to thinks that he is on the journey with me and that I'm not just another face (or another "girly bits"). Anyway, have been flat out at work and DH & I are house hunting as well at them moment as we are renting and I would really like a place of my own to bring our bub home to when he or she finally joins our family.

Good luck to wherever everyone is at the moment. The old timers & newbies alike, I'm think of you all.

Hi Mels,

DH and I actually BD during this FET cycle.. we thought.. what the heck.. maybe we will be luck and get twins ( I only have 1 embie transfered) even though we only have 2% chance of natural conception. so yes, BD away people. If it doesn't come to anything at least we enjoyed it...lol..

Hello everyone, how is ya?

Welcome to the newbies - Bub4me, DrGirl and Spring - thanks for joining us and for sharing your stories. I shall enjoy getting to know you all during our journeys.

Spring - sorry I haven't been through anything similar, but I am sure that there are others who can help you.

JBM - so glad that you are feeling better today - keep on keeping on my friend.

WLB and Smithy - good luck with your EPU - lots of eggies for you I hope.

KellyD - your FS sounds wonderful - thanks for the laugh with those girly bits :lol:

Paula - glad that your ET went well today, hope that you are resting up and enjoying a bit of "ME" time. Good luck for your TWW.

Lots and lots of positive sticky vibes to you Paula and all the other lovely ladies patiently waiting for BT's - ontrak, LNB, Wishing Baby, Curlygirl and Kahlan. I hope that was everyone (there are a lot of posts to go through)

To everyone else big hugs to you am thinking about you all - Mrs M, Ruth, Mels77, Shelbee, Cuddlepie, Possums, Neptune.

Keep up the BD girls - you just never know !!!

ha ha, that is great girls. what i absolutely love about that is that, despite what we've all been through, we are all inherently positive and optomistic (if not, then none of us would be BD'ing in the hope of a miracle!)

so get busy BD'ing. :lol:

love to all
mels x

Goodluck Smithy thinking of ya darl!!!:pray:

Hi Everyone -

WLB - thinking of you for your EPU tomorrow - :pray: for lots of good eggies for you

Smithy - sending lots of good eggie thoughts to you for tomorrow - take care

JBM - great to hear you are feeling better and moving into a FET

Paula - see you in the TWW

Spring - welcome. I'm sorry but I don't have any experience with OHSS but I'm sure some of the other wonderful ladies in here will be able to offer advice. Take care of yourself

Neptune, Possums, JodieC65, Cuddlepie, Shelbee, Kellyd, Mels77 and all the other wonderful ladies in this thread - sending lots of good thoughts to you for wherever you may be in your cycle.

AFM - no AF and only one sleep til BT :pray::pray::pray::pray::pray::pray: for no AF.

Take care everyone,
LNB

Just want to come in to wish LNB good luck for tomorrow, lots of baby dust! :D

LNB : best wishes for your b/t tommorow - :crossfingers:

Hi girls - just checking in to say hi.

I started my injections last night. The lead-up was a bit traumatic, but in the end it wasn't that bad. I know it won't be, but I'm just not a needle person, and DH decided it would be best if I started doing them first go in case he's not here one night. Still don't like the idea of doing it myself, but it's for a very good cause - have to keep my eye on the prize!! The meds are messing with me tho' - has anyone else found that? I'm really foggy in the head, and somewhat mellow about things, which I suppose is good, except that I have a bunch going on at work at the moment that I really need to be on top of, so I'm hoping I can still do what I need to do. The spray tastes pretty yucky and gives me a bit of a headache, but nothing too drastic at the moment.

I have my scan on Monday to confirm everything, but at the moment EPU is planned for Friday 7th... the day before we move house. We have the option of moving on the 8th or the 15th, but I think the 15th is too close to FET, and I think it's more important to be relaxed for that one. Don't you think? So I won't be much use on the day of the move, but DH will have 4 helper bees, and I'll have 2 mums and my brother's girlfriend to look after me, so things should be ok. Also, DH's parents are retired and have offered to do some running around for us in the few days leading up to the move. It's only a small move too - just around the corner, pretty much. I'm not worried about it yet, and am trying to stay that way. Also have a bunch of work due at the end of my TWW, so hopefully that will give me something to do without stressing me out too much - I hear that's key to this process. I start yoga classes next week too (with MIL), and am looking forward to that.

Gee, there's lots going on in this thread - lots of BTs, EPUs, FETs... :crossfingers: for everyone.

Have a great day everyone!!

Bub4me - I was pretty tired and not up for much after my EPU (and a little uncomfortable), so make sure you have the option of sitting on the couch if you feel like it :p

LNB - good luck today!!! Let us know how you go! :crossfingers:

Smithy & Wouldlove - good luck for your EPUs today! :crossfingers:

Mels

Afternoon ladies just a quick post as I am bout to get ready for work.

Got the results for Mondays BT E2=1000 or so LH=0.6 and Prog=0.45
So now I am instructed to do Pregnyl 5000 trigger 7PM tonight DP and I are to BD tonight, tomorrow night, Thursday morning and Thursday night another BT on Thursday morning to see if trigger was succesfull and O has occured if all is good with that then I am to do Pregnyl 1500 Booster shots on 4DPO and 7DPO so all we can do now is :crossfingers: and hope that I release an :egg: for DP :sperm: to :fertilise: Here's hoping.

Sorry no personals wishing you all the best of luck with what ever stages you are up to.

Thanks for everyones well wishes.

My fears turned to reality yesterday afternoon. After 2ww + 9 days, after having 4 BTs, my HCG dropped down to 45. I am now getting my period :angel:

I'm really angry. I had severe OHSS and without knowing all the facts had a fresh ET. If I had of known what I know now, I would have done a FET. I wouldn't have gone through so much pain and I might have had more success. :cry:

This experience is my first and has really opened my eyes. For those of you who have been through it time and time again, you are really amazing. The strength you must have is amazing. I am glad I found this forum. It has given me so much and makes me feel less alone. Speaking to family is wonderful, but unless you have gone through it, they will never though the pain, emotion and uselessness you feel.

Now that I have AF I am getting pains and am worried of complications. How do I know if it's not doing the job it's self?

hi spring - i'm so sorry to hear your news. hang in there, you'll be ok. you had a similar experience to me (first ivf, transfer, BFP - HCG 64, then dropped and m/c within days). my FS kept getting blood tests to make sure the HCG had dropped. i had a very strange AF (not a normal period at all). i've since had a scan and there's nothing left so it has properly m/c. This month i've been told to do nothing (ie no FET) until AF comes again and we do a FET next time.

you did a great job getting a HCG on your first transfer. from what i understand from my FS, getting any HCG is very positive news - and it wouldn't have been your fault that it m/c. It is the embie that was never going to survive, no matter what you did or whether it was a FET.

i hope you feel better soon. take care
mels x

Spring, I have just gone through the same as what you are. I did a stim cycle in September. My BT showed hcg of 29. It dropped to 6 a few days later. It should have kept dropping to 0 but 1 week later BT showed it went back up to 23. A week later showed levels at 17. There were suggestions if it didn't drop to 0, that there were tablets that could be prescribed to force my body to have a period and clear whatever is left. Another week later (yesterday) a BT showed I'm finally back to 0 and ready to do a FET when AF shows up which they expect to be within a few days now.

I hope you're feeling ok. Being in limbo is really hard. Not knowing where you're body is at or what is going to happen. I'm assuming your clinic has asked you to return for follow up BT? If not, ring and ask them about it.

Take care. Wishing everyone else all the very best, whatever stage you're all at along this rollercoaster!

Kaydee & Mels,

Thank you for your stories. FS did not mention anything about a f/up BT. I will definitely ask them about that. I didn't know that you should still BT until HCF was back to 0.
DH is angry with FS and ready to go to another clinic. Unfortunately he is not coping too well. I think we both expected too much on our first go. We wanted so desperately to have a BFP for Christmas. I know now that we must be more patient and that I must think of my health before jumping into anything. I think the sooner we are pregnant, the sooner DH will heal. See, we are using donor sperm. I believe DH blames himself for all this, even though none of it is his fault.

Have a good afternoon ladies. I hope someone has some good news to give us all a pep up?

Spring, sorry to read your sad news. I hope you and your DH are OK. It's just an emotional rollercoaster this whole process.
I have just suffered a miscarriage at 8.5 weeks, after getting a BFP after a FET.... it has been a devastating experience and DH and I are now regrouping and finding the strength to start all over again. It's hard work, but somehow we all do manage to keep going and keep hoping. I really hope you get your BFP soon. hang in there . It is hard when so many people really don't get it..but this is a helpful place to chat with people who DO get it

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Thanks for everyones well wishes.

My fears turned to reality yesterday afternoon. After 2ww + 9 days, after having 4 BTs, my HCG dropped down to 45. I am now getting my period :angel:

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Hi Spring, so sorry for you. Even in natural birth 50% of pregnancy ends early mainly because the bub couldn't implant properly or has a chromosome defect which prevents it from developing further. Most people don't get gp on their first IVF. I had the expectation that I would in my first cycle last year because I was young and the problem was not with me.. but here I am 1 year later. The good thing though is I strongly believe that it would happen one day... even my fs said so. do you have any frosties? You are bound to be successful next time. My thoughts are with you.

bub4me: good job
wishbaby: good luck
spring: welcome :nahnah:and good luck
kaydee: count down to FET
possums: hope you feeling better. xxoo
kahlan: thank you so much for your thoughts
neptune:keep on bding, at least it burns fat and it's fun.
mels: miracles have happened and they can for you too
kelly: hope scan goes well
Jodie: thanks to you too
lnb:please be a BFP for you :crossfingers:
luvabub: hi to you

if i missed anyone and i am sure i did as there are just so many of us now. i am sorry
hello to you.

afm: well am feeling much better, had most of day in bed yesterday and it has done the trick for sure. mood is fine now maybe even nearly normal. well normal for me anyway

dh has been very good and helping heaps, did dinner last night and got boys organised too. is groveling for sure. i'm making the most of it too!

we've decided to go strait onto another cycle next month so i have phoned the clinic and booked in a scan on 4 november. i figure what the heck.

but i did say to dh i'll prob get BFP on last egg just to make sure we can't have any more.
:fertilise: hoping it all works out. i'll keep you all informed.

Thinking of all my girls...

Big hugs Bel

Hi Everyone -

Smithy and WLB - hope your EPU's went well, have been thinking of you today. Sending lots of good thoughts to your embies to grow big and strong for you ET's

Bub4me - good luck on your journey. Make sure you can rest up after your EPU, I was sill uncomfortable and not up for anything for a few says after EPU. Take care and make the men do all the hard work!

Mel77 - hope you are doing okay

Wishingbaby - fingers crossed for successful BD - enjoy :)

Spring - sorry to hear about your news today. It is a rollercoaster , the best we can do is hang on, stay positive and take care of yourself

JBM - thinking of you as you start a new cycle

Bel, WLB, Cuddlepie all your positive thoughts helped, I got a BFP today :dance::p:dance:

DH and I are over the moon. I couldn't stop smiling all afternoon at work. At the moment I feel great and :pray: for a healthy and safe 9 months.

Thinking of everyone and sending lots of good thoughts and baby dust for everyone.

Take care,
LNB

LNB CONGRATULATIONS it is always great news when one of us girls get our long awaited BFP I am so happy for you and hope you have a healthy and happy nine months
:clap::dance::leap::hooray::bluecheer:

Hi i have been reading posts in here for some time now so i thought i may as well have a chat. Im about to start a 2 week cycle using antagonist meds, cause i had OHSS when i did first cycle in Feb, 10 embies fert. but unfortunatly none made it to blast. So never had a transfer. Hoping this one works better. Has anyone done a cycle like this and have any advice?

LNB - congratulations on your BFP!!

Spring - sorry for your loss - I know you will find plenty of support in here for the next leg of your journey.

There are a lot of really amazing inspirational women in this thread - having never actually been pg I can't fathom how to deal with the loss of something so precious. All I know is that in the end, when we all get our little tiny bundles to love forever, it will make all the sadness and suffering worth it. Hugs to all.

LNB!!! - brilliant news congratulations!!!!! (I'm also smiling at work for you!) What an inspiration (I'm now praying my first FET next month achieves the same result!!) :loveshower:

Simone - welcome, unfortunately I can't help you with your question - but I'm sure there are ladies here who will have advice.

Mels x

LNB : Congratulations on your BFP - a wonderful result and I can imagine you and hubby are on cloud nine, Im looking forward to all your exciting news in the coming 8months :dance:


I have the day off following my EPU ... which I am happy to say at my first epu - we got 11 eggies - :dance:

They were snuggling in overnight and I will get a call today to see how many fertilised - :grouphug: for my little eggies - I hope thay had a good night :fertilise::fertilise::fertilise:

LNB- congrats again!!

wouldloveabubba- good results...hope your embies are doing well!!

CONGRATULATIONS LNB !!! that is such wonderful news, I am now sitting here at work smiling like crazy. I am so very happy for you and wish you all the best for a happy and healthy nine months.

Wouldloveabubba - that is fantastic news - 11 eggies, I hope that they are all behaving and dividing like good little eggies. Take care.

Spring - so sorry to read about your loss, I feel for you sweetheart. This is such an emotional journey that we are travelling on and I wish you and your DH much love and luck. Thinking of you.

Hello to everyone else - I had better do some work, but just wanted to check on in and see how you are all doing today. Take care :grouphug:

hey girls were in sydney and epu went very well im so so happy to tell you all we got 12 eggs and today we have 11 fert and tomorrow morning is our embie transfer with 2 lil ones going back im just so excited with this out come wow finally its luck coming my way
dh and i have had the best time together and were staying with my brother and his wife and they are 19 weeks pg and yesterday found out there having a bubba boy
so bring on the babies
thank you girls for all your support it was so nice seeing all the msg when i got on thismorning
so embie transfer tomorrow and then we drive home for 6 hrs lol
STICKY VIBES FOR SMITHY
when i get home ill do personals kisses to all
woohoo i have 11 fert
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thats great news smithy :D
going to see about my u/s today on how much it is going to cost us and going to get bloods done next week

sarahxxxx
not sure we might have to put ivf on hold yet at dad is sick just dont know what to do just have to wait and see if we get a phone call between now and dec i guess

Good morning All,

JBM - All the best for next month, hopefully a BFP for Christmas!

LNB - Congrats! That's wonderful news. Hope the good news keeps on coming!

Simone - Feb must have been devistating for you. I can't imagine. You have given yourselves lots of time to rest and regroup which can only be a good thing. Never heard of antagonist meds though. All the best and let us know how it goes.

Mrs P - Wow, it's sounds like you have been through some tough times. I have never heard of heterozygous Factor V Leiden. I hope there is treatment available to you?

Wouldloveabubba - Well done on the 11 eggs. That's very positive! :crossfingers:

To everyone else. All the best with your progress at whatever stage you are at. You have all inspired me to keep battling on and to learn to take the good with the bad.

My update - My first ET started off as a BFP, only to m/c at 4.5wks just a few days ago. I'm going back to FS on Fri to make sure everything is as it should be. I reckon we'll wait until after my next AF before trying again. Luckily I have 7 little embies waiting for me. Bye for now!

Hi Everyone

Sorry I have been MIA. I have been trying to avoid thinking about this TWW. AF is due on Friday, so don?t want to get my hopes up too much!! Been keeping myself busy with work and friends and other general stuff?

LNB ? congrats
Wouldlovebubba ? nice eggs.
Spring ? I?m sorry for your loss. Good luck with your next cycle.
Wishingbaby ? good luck for this cycle. I?m sure BF is not complaining about all the BDing
Big hello to everyone else
AFM: I think if AF comes this month, then I will go in for a lap. Hopefully I can get it booked quite quickly, as AF is due on Friday, I have a dancing exam next Thursday and then I go to London the following Tuesday? . I just called the doc to see if I can book it now and cancel if AF doesn?t come, and see if I can get in next Friday. So holding fingers?
For those of you who have had a lap, how do you feel afterwards? How long does it take to get over it? If I have it on Friday, will I be ok to fly on the following Tuesday do you think??

Hi Babytruj - i've had a lap, and from my perspective, I'm not sure I would have been up for flying Aus - London 3 days later. it's a full general anesthetic which knocks you around a bit. plus i was a bit sore afterwards. Although, fingers crossed AF doesn't show up and you can cancel it anyway!

Mels

smithy- great - well done with the eggs...fingers crossed for you

Mrs M- hope your dad is OK....must be a stressful time

babytruj- not sure about recovery time...i had one with the ectopic...but it also involved the removal of my right tube so was a lot more complicated and took longer to recover...hopefully you dont need it

yer it is he has cancer

sarah - i'm so very sorry to hear about your dad. i hope you're holding up ok. re ivf delay, i know that months seems to take forever, but really, if you only need to delay by a few months, it will be nothing in the scheme of things. hang in there. :hug:

mels

wouldloveabubba - :dance: good eggie result, you must be happy! I hope my results are as positivie on my first EPU next Friday. :crossfingers::crossfingers::crossfingers: for happy and healthy embies.