Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception October 2014

Thanks Jane and Caty for sharing your symptoms. I've convinced myself mine are disappearing fast lol. On top of all that I am getting another cold :(. Went to visit my OH's daughter and her little family on Sunday, the 6 month old was running a fever a few days in a row and now it looks like I'm getting a cold/virus myself. Boo. My BT seems like years away! Still determined not to test. I'm already thinking if this cycle is not good, I'm going again early next year lol. I was talking to the embryologist and asked her if she thought frozen sperm was better than fresh. She said in her opinion fresh is best. Now I'm kicking myself that I didn't ask my FS on what to do before we started the cycle. We had some swimmers frozen last year, and initially OH was going to have fresh swimmers taken out in this cycle but at the last moment he freaked out and we went with the frozen.. meh.

How is everyone travelling? How are you going Juniper?

Great news Jane and CatyO! FX for smooth sailing for you both. :)

Congrats on the BFPs girls! lovely to hear some baby news!

AFM - the FS has made me take a second lot of clomid in this cycle since my hormones had not lifted at all. Had an ultrasound and BT this morning with a 16.9mm follicle and will call me this arvo to let me know when i trigger, or if we just use it as a booster. Fingers crossed for this cycle working as been told no more clomid cycles, and then I need to have the dye through the ovaries test and possibly another lap for endo before FS will start me on a new plan whch will probably be letrozole or FSH. Not sure if will be used in IUI or not.

Wednesday 10 December 2014 :jawdrop:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Kel82 - taking a break
PositivelyGTC - taking a break
1 More Please - taking a break (March 2015)
Jo_white - saving for IVF
TubbyPuff - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Amy_jellybean - ???
Chellico - ???
Spoons - CD4
Razzberry - CD33
Pholi - CD34
Emma09 - CD64


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... LTTTC Two Week Wait 2014 #5)
Juniper76 - CD34 6dpIUI
Miss.B - CD18 4dp3dt


Got their BFP in December :confetti:
CatyO - 3/12 hCG 61 @16dpo, 247 @19dpo, 678 @21dpo!!!
Jane - 4/12 +HPT @12dpo, 8/12 +b/t!!


M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Glorious, Joski


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Miss.B, it's still early days, to I wouldn't worry count yourself out based on symptoms just yet...

Razzberry, sorry to hear the clomid isn't working as well as hoped. FX that follie has a perfect egg and you get a Christmas BFP!

Afm, I had a dream at 3dpo that I was 9dpo and AF was starting, so clearly I don't have high hopes for this cycle if I'm even dreaming that it won't work... Realistically, it was poorly timed on almost every front - the trigger was done after my E2 started dropping (so the egg was probably past its "best before") and doing trigger 45 hours before IUI isn't ideal (in my opinion) either. The only thing that went well was DH's sample stats, but that's not going to help if the egg was no good. I'm just hoping AF will be kind and her visit will be short so she'll be gone before Christmas...

Im spotting. :( Have taken another pessary in an attempt to convince the little one to stick around. Feeling anxious.

Good luck Razzberry, fx that follie has the golden egg :)

Miss.B l didnt have any symptom until 5dp5dt, l think if l had had any symptom before, it would be trigger related or Pregnyl.

Juniper - l really hope you are wrong and the eggie was good and gives you a nice surprise xx

Jane - l have had some beige-brownish discharge on and off since sunday night, but the nurse said that is old blood. I havent had much though, it's been only a few times when i wipe, nothing n the pad. I had it twice today, once yesterday. I hope the nurse is right and is only old blood and goes away soon, so l can relax. I will be kmfx for you too :hug:

Does anyone know what are the normal levels of estrogen and progesterone l should have at this stage?

I hope everyone is travelling well xx

Thursday 11 December 2014 :jawdrop:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Kel82 - taking a break
PositivelyGTC - taking a break
1 More Please - taking a break (March 2015)
Jo_white - saving for IVF
TubbyPuff - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Amy_jellybean - ???
Chellico - ???
Spoons - CD5
Razzberry - CD34
Pholi - CD35
Emma09 - CD65


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... LTTTC Two Week Wait 2014 #5)
Juniper76 - CD35 7dpIUI
Miss.B - CD19 5dp3dt


Got their BFP in December :confetti:
CatyO - 3/12 hCG 61 @16dpo, 247 @19dpo, 678 @21dpo!!!
Jane - 4/12 +HPT @12dpo, 8/12 +b/t!!


M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Glorious, Joski


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Jane, it's most likely old blood that the body is getting rid of. Hope it eases up for you, and it eases your anxiety. Early pg can be stressful. Big hugs.

Juniper, thanks for your reassurance. I hope we both get our Christmas miracles. You never know.

Caty, thanks Hun. I'm not sure what the levels should be, but try not to look into it too much, it might stress you out unnecessarily. The levels can vary so much for each person. Hang in there!

Razzberry, good luck with this cycle Hun, hope you don't have to do any of the other things.

AFM, nothing new, just trying to get over this silly cold. Started to feel sick yesterday, and I had DS's kinder concert yesterday so was running around like a mad chook making the party food and what not, so haven't really rested. The time is draaaaaaaging, but the desire to test is not there. Thank goodness! Lol.

CatyO my clinic says they look for btw 100 and 109 at the first bt and about 200 two weeks later at the next bt.

No more spotting today so fingers crossed its all ok.

Stalking you all and hoping that you get your bfps soon.

Friday 12 December 2014 :jawdrop:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Kel82 - taking a break
PositivelyGTC - taking a break
1 More Please - taking a break (March 2015)
Jo_white - saving for IVF
TubbyPuff - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Amy_jellybean - ???
Chellico - ???
Spoons - CD6
Razzberry - CD35
Pholi - CD36
Emma09 - CD66


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... LTTTC Two Week Wait 2014 #5)
Juniper76 - CD36 8dpIUI
Miss.B - CD20 6dp3dt


Got their BFP in December :confetti:
CatyO - 3/12 hCG 61 @16dpo, 247 @19dpo, 678 @21dpo!!!
Jane - 4/12 +HPT @12dpo, 8/12 +b/t!!


M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Glorious, Joski


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Hi ladies. Just completed my 5th round of ivf, negative result. Only one frozen embryo, from 2 cycles sgo which was fantastic to achieve. First time that I had massive bleeding about day 7 after transfer. Don't know if I should have a break, as my positive attitude is diminishing quickly with every 'failed' cycle. Because of my age, 43, I don't want to prepare for a frozen cycle, just to have the embryo die and miss out on the chance of collecting at least a couple of more eggs.

Hi hopeful mum, sorry to hear of your bfn. Ivf is a tough journey. Do you have a good fs you can talk through your options? Personally I think Id be tempted to do another full collection. Wishing you all the best whatever you decide.

Hi hopeful mum, sorry to hear about your journey so far wishing you a very short stay. I would be tempted like Jane to do another full collection
Good Luck xxx

Miss B I'm thinking of you, what's your symptoms? How are you feeling? xxxx

Thanks for thinking of me 1 more please :). Not many symptoms here, very slight cramping today, kind of like AF is coming in the next few days. I can get crampy up to a week before AF, so dunno.

Hopeful mum, I'm sorry about your cycle. I'm 44, so I hear you on the age front, but don't feel that because you're 43 you won't give your frozen embryo a fair go. I've found frozen transfers less stressful on the body, and in fact I have a 4.5 year old DS who came from a frozen embryo. Good luck in your future TTC journey. There is also older women TTC thread, you can always chat to the ladies in there (me included) who are a bit older than the average lady in here.

Miss B when is your BT?

It's next Friday hun, still so far away!!!! I keep having pinching pains on my left side mainly, but that's where I had my fibroid taken out a few years ago and I have scar tissue there. Also, I am so constipated (sorry for TMI), I am already drinking so much water. I got some prune juice today :)

Miss B - what you described was one of my first symptoms I was pregnant with DD1!

Oh Razzberry, I would love the same outcome as you, thanks for sharing :)

Saturday 13 December 2014 :jawdrop:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Kel82 - taking a break
PositivelyGTC - taking a break
1 More Please - taking a break (March 2015)
Jo_white - saving for IVF
TubbyPuff - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Amy_jellybean - ???
Chellico - ???
Spoons - CD7
Razzberry - CD36
Pholi - CD37
Emma09 - CD67


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... LTTTC Two Week Wait 2014 #5)
Juniper76 - CD37 9dpIUI
Miss.B - CD21 7dp3dt


Got their BFP in December :confetti:
CatyO - 3/12 hCG 61 @16dpo, 247 @19dpo, 678 @21dpo!!!
Jane - 4/12 +HPT @12dpo, 8/12 +b/t!!


M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Glorious, Joski


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I am cd 10 (Sunday) please. We're having a 'natural' FET cycle, which apparently still involves triggering ovulation. My cd8 BT indicated that estrogen was rising slowly, so atm we're on track for a transfer somewhere round Christmas Day!

That's great news Pholi, good luck hun!!

How exciting Pholi. Good luck!

Afm bright red bleeding today. Have been spotting pink since wed. But today it's definitely darker and heavier. Sorry for the TMI. Have another BT tomorrow. Am concerned. :(

Sunday 14 December 2014 :jawdrop:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Kel82 - taking a break
PositivelyGTC - taking a break
1 More Please - taking a break (March 2015)
Jo_white - saving for IVF
TubbyPuff - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Amy_jellybean - ???
Chellico - ???
Spoons - CD8
Pholi - CD10
Razzberry - CD37
Emma09 - CD68


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... LTTTC Two Week Wait 2014 #5)
Juniper76 - CD38 10dpIUI
Miss.B - CD22 8dp3dt


Got their BFP in December :confetti:
CatyO - 3/12 hCG 61 @16dpo, 247 @19dpo, 678 @21dpo!!!
Jane - 4/12 +HPT @12dpo, 8/12 +b/t!!


M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Glorious, Joski


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Pholi, GL for your FET! :goodluck:

Jane, I hope all is okay. Spotting/bleeding like that can really go either way, so I'll keep my FX that you'll have a happy outcome in spite of the worry you're feeling now. :hug:

Jane, I'm sorry this is happening to you, it must be pretty scary, so big hugs :hug:. Hang in there lovely, and I hope the bleeding is not anything bad. GL with your BT tomorrow and I really hope that bleeding stops for you soon xxx

Jane, that must be very distressing. :( good luck.

Jane you must be so worried, I'm so sorry I really hope your bleeding stops, good luck with your BT tomorrow, thinking of you xxx

Jane - I hope all is ok, I understand how worried you must be.
Good luck to the girls in the 2ww :)

AFM - I am going to hang around for a bit, if I am allowed?? I just don't know who else to talk with and I am not sure yet if I will be leaving this forum, as I have been spotting since last Sunday (brown), it was only when I went to the toilet but for the last 2 days I have always a brown line n the pad (sorry tmi). I have been to blood tests last week Mon, Wed and Fri and number were increasing normal. But I was worried for the spotting, so they agreed to have an u/s this morning (I am 5 weeks 6 days) and I am very worried because they found 1 yolk sac, but they can't see a baby growing there :( and they found another yolk sac, and can't see a baby growing in there either. FS said it could be still a bit earlier, but all I have read on the internet (I should have stayed away of the internet, lol) says that I should even see a heartbeat by now... The problem with the sac #2 is that is located in the area very close to the fallopian tube, but they can't tell if it is in the fallopian tube or not but the Dr looked very concerned and said if I am cramping bad I should go to the hospital, The cramps stopped last Monday.
I apologize if this is not the right place to talk about this, but I really don't know where else to go, and I am not even sure if I will be leaving this forum anyway... I hope my post makes sense, I am all confused...

Caty, I would have thought 5 weeks 6 days is a bit early to see a heart beat? I know some people have had heart beats around 6 ish weeks, but not all. Lets hope it was just a bit too early. So the two sacs mean twins? I'm sorry you are going through this stressful time, and I can't talk as I've been googling my own concerns all this morning, but don't google too much hun (I've stopped), sometimes Dr Google can stress out people unnecessarily. FX the cramps stay away and the sacks are in the right place and you'll see heart beats very soon. Big hugs xxx

Big hugs CatyO. Do you have another scan booked on yet?

Afm bt results were ok today but im still bleeding. They have increased my progesterone and have said it could go either way. Another bt on mon but because of Christmas wtc my scan isn't utility 12 th jan

Good news Jane, FX the progesterone helps and keeps the bleeding away x

Miss.B - Yes, apparently both implanted, and i am hoping its just early, but Dr looked very concerned, he said at this stage he couldnt say if the sac that was in the right place was going to progress, and what worries him mire was the location of the 2nd sac, he said we will have a better idea next Monday. He said if the 2nd sac keeps developing and its in the tube it could explode, so they would have to remove it.

Jane - Glad to hear the bt looks good. I have another scan next Monday. I guess i will be 6weeks 6 days then. Are you having acupuncture? Perhaps it could help with the bleeding?

Caty, let's keep everything crossed for next Monday. It's the waiting that's horrible, but if you can distract yourself with something this week that would help. I know it's so much easier said than done. Sending big hugs your way :hug: xxx

Monday 15 December 2014 :jawdrop:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Kel82 - taking a break
PositivelyGTC - taking a break
1 More Please - taking a break (March 2015)
Juniper76 - taking a break
Jo_white - saving for IVF
TubbyPuff - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Amy_jellybean - ???
Chellico - ???
Spoons - CD9
Pholi - CD11
Razzberry - CD38
Emma09 - CD69


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... LTTTC Two Week Wait 2014 #5)
Miss.B - CD23 9dp3dt


Got their BFP in December :confetti:
CatyO - 3/12 hCG 61 @16dpo, 247 @19dpo, 678 @21dpo!!!
Jane - 4/12 +HPT @12dpo, 8/12 +b/t!!


M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Glorious, Joski


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CatyO, while it's possible to see a HB at 5w6d it's not very common. The HB usually starts between 6-7 weeks, to 7wks is generally when they start to worry if you don't see one. By 5w6d I think you'd expect to see a fetal pole and maybe that's what they were looking for and not finding. Problem is, everything is so small at that stage that not finding something doesn't mean it's not there. Hugs to you - I know how horrid limbo can be. Will be keeping FX that all works out well.

Jane, glad to hear the numbers were good again today. That's a long wait for your scan. Will be keeping FX for you too, hun. xx

Afm, phoned the FS's office this morning and got a script for BCP. Figured if I'm not O'ing anyway, I may as well make sure AF doesn't gate-crash my holidays... Been in so much pain today (AF started properly just after I got to work)... :( Lol, the worst of the pain was during my staff review - great timing!

Tuesday 16 December 2014 ​:grouphug:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Kel82 - taking a break
PositivelyGTC - taking a break
1 More Please - taking a break (March 2015)
Juniper76 - taking a break
Jo_white - saving for IVF
TubbyPuff - saving for IVF
Bestrong - waiting for AF
Amy_jellybean - ???
Chellico - ???
Emma09 - ??
Spoons - CD10
Pholi - CD12
Razzberry - CD39


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here... LTTTC Two Week Wait 2014 #5)
Miss.B - CD24 10dp3dt


Got their BFP in December :confetti:
CatyO - 3/12 hCG 61 @16dpo, 247 @19dpo, 678 @21dpo!!!
Jane - 4/12 +HPT @12dpo, 8/12 +b/t!!


M.I.A. - We'd love to hear from you!
Glorious, Joski


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Jane and CatyO, how are you guys today? I hoping the bleeding settles soon and that you both have otherwise uneventful pregnancies x

MissB, how is the 2ww going? only a few more days til your blood test!

Juniper, I hope the pain settles. I get bad period pain too. It sucks :(

AFM, I saw the FS today and I'll be starting clomid. I Have to wait until late January as they're closed over Xmas/NY and they won't be able to track the follicles. DH and I will still keep trying naturally until then but it is good to have some sort of plan.

Sorry if I missed anyone. I hope everyone is doing ok :)

Thanks ladies for all the support. Still bleeding but it is not as heavy as on the weekend.

For those of you who do or have dobe acupuncture, do you need to find one who specialises in fertility or pregnancy or is anyone ok?

Good luck miss b for the upcoming scan.

Spoons fingers crossed for a natural Christmas / new years miracle for you

Sucks to period pain juniper. Hopefully it will be done and dusted by christmas for you.
Fingers crossed for your next scan catyo. Praying for heartbeats.

Hi ladies,

Thinking of you both with bleeding/ cramps. :/

Jane, def try to see a fertility specialist acupuncturist if you can.

Afm, BT and scan today showed lining is good, follicle is 20mm, estrogen is increasing, but no L&H surge yet, so I have another BT tomorrow, and probably the trigger tomorrow night. By my calculations, that will put t/f of my 5 day embryo on the 24th!