Long Term TTC & Assisted Conception September 2012

Sorry Nire :( sucks ... I have triggered at my brothers 30th birthday in their ensuite AND in a restaurant bathroom at a work function..... weird feeling that.....
... here's hoping that single follie will do the trick... :hug:

Miss B - glad Cameron hasn't got anything more sinister!! Still I'm sure it's not nice to see him like that!!!

krikkit - I hope the puppy isn't driving you nuts tonight....

thanks Jayejaye and Joe - it's you guys that help us keep hoping.... even though we never know what the future might hold - it doesn't mean it's all over!

Andie - here's hoping this cycle brings different news for you - I know you just keep at it, and I wish there was a way we could make it an easier road for those of you in particular who have multiple BFN's :( I know that watching newbies come and go in and out of here must be harder and harder each time..... goes for you to N2L....

N2L - I feel mixed about it - like you, I know that it's unhelpful to say "it'll be okay..." DH said that to me last time, and I knew at the time it wasn't true - that he couldn't promise me that... and yet in some ways it was comforting as well... didn't change the outcome, but did make me feel a bit better in the moment...But I think you do get to the point of knowing that things may NOT go the way you want, and I hear what you were saying - don't promise things that you can't keep.... it just hurts, and is unrealistic.... at the same time... sometimes it's nice to hear too... it's nice to hear the positive stories - but I know when people say that they are just being nice... because no one can say how it's going to turn out...
Nevertheless.... I went in last time saying that there was no reason that one COULDN'T be THE ONE...... and it kinda was... even though it didn't work... it was nice to feel okay about it, and nice to feel that it was possible... I guess that's what we are all saying isn't it... let's try and keep out chin's up....

sometimes I feel bad complaining about how I am getting old, when I know those of you in you 40's are further along than me... I know that circumstances have led me here (as miss b said - it can't always be helped...).... but sometimes, like the other day - it just catches me by surprise.... I am getting older - there is no doubt....I have no control over this... not really... and it just sucks :( I guess I just know that you guys are the only ones who get that, and so... you are the ones who hear my cries, cause...well.... at least in here, I am not so alone.... :(

I am plodding along, still not sure whether to start a cycle this year, or have a bigger break.... will probably see how I feel when I see the FS next month - 29th October ..... (juniper can you add it into the list.... will help me feel like I am going somewhere at least..

Wondering whether I should go with Acupuncture next cycle - apart from higher meds - it was pretty much the only thing I did differently this time... I think the higher meds helped so that the eggies were ready earlier in the cycle - only by a few days, but I think that means the eggs are better quality.... still annoyed there was nothing left the freeze... again... :( probably ahead of myself though.... (which is of course... common for me... over think... over plan... blah blah blah.....) I guess I feel more like myself the past week, and just want to get on with things again... feel like I 'should' lose weight first...but.... just don't want to keep waiting for everything....

anyway..... Hope everyone is feeling okay :grouphug: xxx

Andie, interesting....I've been thinking about PGD today too! Did you read Minnie Mouse's post in the PGD thread about her AA embies? It really got me thinking....

I've looked into it too ladies, except we're not getting enough embies to do the testing. My FS said I needed around 8 to 10 embryos preferably, to have a go at the testing, but I'm getting a lot fewer than that and they might not survive the testing and then I will have nothing :(

Glad you're feeling a bit better myturn, will be following your journey closely :) Give the acu a go hun, it can't hurt! (except your pocket unfortunately). I have decided to miss the acu this cycle, but have been taking CoQ10 instead. If it does nothing to the egg/embryo quality, I will do both or instead of acu I will do fresh herbs + CoQ10 in the future. Then I will run out of ammunition! lol.

yeah i did... i wondered if thats going to be me in november. i really struggled with the decision, but ultimately i just want to know now. even if i just do it once. it will help me decide whether i need to start considering donor egg or sperm/surrogacy/more fur children... :o

juniper - I was on the same dose of gonal f 450.. I don't think you can inject much more in one go... the quality of mine were just cr*p

n2l - thanks for the link :) Sometimes I wish I didn't want to know so much - this process really makes you over think! as far as staying positive, I am always thinking towards the next cycle and how or what I will have to do during that cycle and how we are going to afford it. I guess its just a built in thing, where as hubby is more "go with the flow"

nirenotrom - so sorry :hug:

andie / miss b - I asked about PGD at our clinic, but they have a few requirements that need to be met like 10+ failed stims before they will do it. and at a huge cost. I guess something always make you think what else haven't we tried kwim?

AFM - pessaries! eeeewwee! hate them. I get 4 progesterone a day now, till friday anway. you would think at 10dpt I would be getting a bfp nothing :(

oh, and we returned the puppy - too much too soon and you cant put a nappy on it and it thought DD was another pup so would fret and bite and chew on here lol.. cute and barky little weeing furball.

:goodluck: Tuesday 25th September 2012 :goodluck:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Emma- :angel: - taking a break
Kerbear - taking a break
Myturn - :angel: - FS app 29 Oct
Sarah4Kurt - waiting for AF
Me4ever - CD5
Miloro - CD??
Andie - CD7
Wishanddream - CD11
N2L - CD13
Nire - CD13
Emerald Star - CD16
Juniper - CD17


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ek-Wait-2012-7)
Vic261 - CD27 4dp5dt
Krikkit - CD28 11dp3dt
Blossom - CD32 10dp5dt


Got Their BFP in September :confetti:
JoeSpratt - +b/w 15/9 @13dpo
Mrs Mac - +HPT 13/9, +b/w 19/9 @16dpo
J.Bear - +b/w 24/9 @16dpo

:asleep:4 hours of sleep is not enough. More b/w this morning, so another 5am wake-up after getting to sleep at 1am again. Wonder if we'll get the LH surge today? I was pleasantly surprised when my FS said he would normally have skipped today but had me come in because I'm worried about my body not doing the right thing. He had been so dismissive of my concerns when I raised them on Friday (and left me feeling like I'd offended him), so it was nice to know he actually did take note and consider my worries. He tends to be very "I know best so do what I tell you", but maybe there's hope that he does listen because I'm not a "blindly follow directions"-type of patient any more...

I'm trying to convince DD to have a morning nap (so that I can have one), but she's not having a bar of it... *sigh* Have to go to work for an hour after lunch, so an afternoon nap is out of the question for me.

juniper - glad your FS is listening to you. i remember reading your post about your appt and thinking i would not gel too well with your FS at all...! :o
any luck with your lh today?

Andie, yeah, I have some problems with him on that front, but I know he is one of the best, so I'm willing to put up with it (to a certain point) but will make him put up with me being pushy too (that's fair, right?).

Sooo, when I spoke to the FS this morning he said they were looking for E2 between 600-1400 to indicate O was on the way. Yesterday's was 1252, so I had hoped the LH would be up today. Not so... E2 has gone up to 1642 and LH went up to 18 (from 16 yesterday). I'll be asking him about the E2 tomorrow when I go in for yet another b/t since it's above the range he said and I've been worried about my oestrogen being too high... Hoping (yet again) that tomorrow will give us the LH surge!

After two nights of only 4 hours sleep, my plan for tonight is to go to bed early (whenever I start to feel sleepy), even if DD is still up, and let DH deal with whatever needs to be done. He's napping right now (his training finished early today), so he can afford to go to bed later, even if he's the one going to work tomorrow. I shouldn't be running myself into the ground like this when I'm relying on my body to function properly...

Hi All, sorry I haven't been on here very much been finding it really hard to keep up with everyone :redface: I had the BT yesterday and we got a BFP, we are soooooo cautious not to get too excited so will just be taking it day by day!

Juniper that's good that you speak up to your FS, it's so easy to walk out and think oh I should have said this or that. Hope you get a good sleep tonight.

Nire i'm sorry you cycle got cancelled, big hugs xo

MissB I hope your lil man feels better soon, that sounds like an annoying combo of itchyness and sickness.

Hi to all....Big Hugs all around I am thinking of you all and praying for BFP's all round that stick and bring us all our lil bundles of joy.

congrats J.bear :clap: :loveshower:

Congratulations jbear on you bfp, I hope it stays nice and snug for you and you have a healthy happy 9 mths xo

Thank you Kerbear me too :)

Thanks so much Krikkit, is your BT Friday? Maybe if you test closer to the day it will be more accurate? I will be keeping everything crossed for you hun.

yep, bt friday - I poas today, its positive but only just.. I think its still the pregnyl. I also purchased a new pack of HPTs today so will get me through till Friday..... crossing everything.. and again congrats j.bear

Congrats jbear. Wonderful news.

I too have thought about pgd, but not too sure if my clinic does it.

AFM - just plodding along. TWW not too bad this time. I feel like I have healed alot after my mc now I am pupo again. Still concerned about egg quality, but guess it just takes one I guess. Still wish I were still pg though. Bt due next friday but since I ovulated on sunday 16th I may poas over the weekend. We are going away not too sure if I will as I dont want to be upset in front of everyone if its a neg.

Yaaaaay J.Bear :hooray:!! Congratulations lovely, sending you loads of sticky vibes and wishing you smooth sailing in your pg xoxox

Kikkit, I have everything crossed for you darling :crossfingers::goodluck::pray: xoxo

GL to you too Vic :crossfingers: I know the feeling of wanting to be pg especially after a m/c :hug: xxx

Congrats J.Bear! Wonderful news! :hooray:

:dance: congrats JBear on your BFP :happyforyou:

:crossfingers: for Krikkit on Friday

sending everyone :grouphug:

dropping in......

:

---

I've looked into it too ladies, except we're not getting enough embies to do the testing. My FS said I needed around 8 to 10 embryos preferably, to have a go at the testing, but I'm getting a lot fewer than that and they might not survive the testing and then I will have nothing :(

---

hi girls, i thought i would pop in here because i do stalk you all and i wanted to comment on the pgd chat. this is interesting miss B, nothing about numbers was mentioned to us, i got 6 eggs and of that 4 went to testing but i know they would have tested even one or two (although its a flat fee for the pgd)

even though we spent a lot of money of the cycle and didn't even get a transfer it was money well spent because as the fs said by just looking at the embryos he would have put one back and frozen 2 others which would have meant one loss (assuming it stuck initially) and then recovering from that then using a frostie and suffering another loss and repeating again for the next frostie, by that time probably more than 6 months has passed (not to mention the emotional toll and financial for the FET cycles as well), so as much as it hurt getting the result we did for us it really was better to know

i hate that it is so hard for all of us :hug:

n2l: let me know if you want to know anything about the pgd, not that im an expert by any means but im happy to help if i can :) has your fs suggested pgd to you before ? My embryos went to melbourne ivf for testing, not sure if you are with them but they obviously do it if you were going to look into it.

:hello: to everyone else

Hi ladies!

I've been taking a little break after my last chemical PG- and my DD has tonsillitis :(

Went to see my FS yesterday- she wants to do some testing for recurrent miscarriage.
She also mentioned PGD for our next cycle.
It's a lot to think about :(

Has anyone had a contrast US with dye?
Silly question- but how do they put the dye in?

:goodluck: Wednesday 26th September 2012 :goodluck:

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI/FET or just something to happen!
Emma- :angel: - taking a break
Kerbear - taking a break
Myturn - :angel: - FS app 29 Oct
Sarah4Kurt - CD4
Me4ever - CD6
Miloro - CD??
Andie - CD8
Wishanddream - CD12
N2L - CD14
Nire - CD14
Emerald Star - CD17
Juniper - CD18 - O predicted CD19, to be confirmed CD20


Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW (Stalk them here....https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ek-Wait-2012-7)
Vic261 - CD28 5dp5dt
Krikkit - CD29 12dp3dt
Blossom - CD33 11dp5dt


Got Their BFP in September :confetti:
JoeSpratt - +b/w 15/9 @13dpo
Mrs Mac - +HPT 13/9, +b/w 19/9 @16dpo
J.Bear - +b/w 24/9 @16dpo

minniemouse, thanks for sharing that. We've always had very few eggs, so it's a good way to think about it. I don't think we're at a point where it would be recommended for us, but if we ever get there...

Emma, sorry, can't help with the u/s. Let us know how you go with the testing.

Afm, I'm just happy to have had somewhere between 6-7 hours sleep last night. :) Will find out today's b/t results after 1pm. Will be interested to see what they show because my BBT jumped half a degree this morning (but still in the pre-O range because yesterday's was very, very low - lowest I've ever had!). Hopefully the BBT rise means a drop in E2 (which should mean LH surge time).

Emma I have had one done a couple of times to check everything was all good inside. It's like laying for a pap smear, they put a ballon thing in and blow it up to a comfortable level then insert the dye through a little tube, I found the balloon a little uncomfortable for me but the dye doesn't hurt. We could see on an ultrasound what he was doing as we went to a fertility ultrasound specialist for it.
Sorry my description was not very medical but hope it might help you understand it.

I poas today again, dont know why I torture myself, it's pretty dark but I am trying not to get my hopes up :( I put a photo in my album

Krit - it looks good to me, but unsure of the pregnyl. I know it can stay in your system. Since your 12dpt ring and get a bt. I got my last BFP 12dpt with a bt and pos poas. Technically your 15dpo so you should be able to convince the clinic to put you out of your misery :)

My last injection was Monday morning so I still have it in my system :( I will hold out till tomorrow and see if it's darker .... Hate waiting

Ugh...the endless waiting. Would love it if we both got BFP's together and went onto a BB group :)

I hope so Vic ;)

Is that a photo in your FB album Krikkit? I hope it's a BFP for you hun :crossfingers:

under ivf #3 album. I will compare tomorrow - maybe it will be a sticky one

It's on my album under here on belly belly sorry

Is it weird to have one sore boob? It started last night, but the other one is ok. Probably all in my head :dunno:

Some people I know get shooting sharp pains in the boobies when they are utd

Thats what I have been getting. I cant remember if I got it last time. I know my boobs were sore but I had just done a stim, so assumed it was that.

Omg, so nervous!! LH surge today (b/w 31 and had an almost +opk at 1pm), O tomorrow (to be confirmed Friday), thaw on Sunday and, god willing, transfer Monday. I was really happy when the nurse said to come in on Friday for more b/w to confirm O! The FS really did listen to me about my concerns! Geez, I'm easy to please, aren't I? ;) Monday is a public holiday here, so was told transfer will probably be 7am, but I will find out more on Friday. Assuming O is confirmed Friday, we just have to hope and pray that our little embie survives the thaw and makes it to transfer. We've never had a viable day 4 embryo (which is what we're aiming for here). I'm going to be a basket case on Sunday, expecting a bad news phone call any minute! Acupuncture again tomorrow to help O along. Will be cornering DH tonight as well so that the cycle doesn't go to waste if the embryo doesn't make it.

Eep! I feel sick with anxiety already... :sick:

good news, juniper! fingers crossed for monday. ; )

Sooo exciting Juniper. I know the thrill of that phone call saying your ready. Definately jump DH :) :)

Will be stalking your results xxx

Goodluck juniper! Whoohoo!

Has anyone ever changed fertility clinics?

Krikkit, we haven't changed clinics, but we did change to a new FS. Best move ever. We wouldn't have DD if we hadn't done that. Our first FS repeatedly (for 2 years) refused to do a lap to investigate endo. Our new FS recommended a lap within 5 mins of meeting him. If the clinic or Dr you're with isn't right for you, then a change can be just what you need.

Thanks ladies! Did I mention I'm sooooo nervous about the coming days?! ;)