Thanks for your kind words guys. We will all get there one day, this month just wasnt our time.
OP - the only thing they told me was that my prog had decreased to a reading of 11. She did not mention any hcg result, so I assuming it was nil or not worth mentioning. C'est la vie they say. Onwards and upwards from here. Strangely enough with every failure I seem to cope better. Appt with my FS booked for 16th - am expecting the IVf push then. Op you note a success rate of 33%, this is much higher than my clinic ever said which was at 20%. Where did you find rates like this. And does this mean an IVf success rate of 45% could in fact be higher??? (clutching at straws now...)
Firstly diamond i'm so sorry abut your BFN take care of yourself hun. xx
AFM: had the IUI yest pm - all went well - nil pain at all - now the waiting game!
I have x3 pregnyl injections mon, thur and sun then BT/urine test 22.12.08 (they are closed but i'll just do it at work). Then if i'm pregnent i start progesterone pessaries until my 7 week scan. I felt so positive yest and the FS nurse was so nervous i will have multiples but she said i would be "quite uncomfortable last night as i ovulated" but i felt fine and still do??? God i'm already reading to much into things!!!!!!
as far as exercise during the next 2 weeks go what does everyone think? and i know we have disscussed coffee but is there anything else i should avoid or do??
sorry about the me post but have to go out in half hour!
Bella - I was told not to do any more exercise than I would be doing already, so it's fine to continue any existing routines you have. In terms of food, there's obviously the caffeine and then all the usual things to avoid in pregnancy.
Bella - Glad your IUI went well, and you now have the pleasure of the wonderful TWW - dont worry if you didnt feel any o pain, every body is different..
Shades, OP, Diamond and antgirl - hope your having a lovely weekend
AFM: Friends over last night, that was wonderful, keeping my mind busy, I feel a lot better than I have the last few days, feeling calm about the outcome, and the af pains have gone away. I have done a poas - I dont even feel stressed about the results, as they are so incorrect most of the time, so AF due tommorow, prob being held back from Pregnyl.. I am going to try my best to not get too stressed -
Bella, my clinic always said don't do any serious exercise for three days after IUI. I always found I was really anxious and protective of myself during the TWW anyway, so I always told my trainer what was and wasn't willing to do. Leg press was out and some upper body exercises which pull my pelvic floor muscles were nixed too.
I think walking is the safest form of exercise at this time. Unless you're Jane Flemming and you're use to exercising at elite athlete levels!
I did review my gym's advice on exercising during pregnancy - they say mother's heart rate must not go above 140. Another trainer at my old gym said nothing above 120 and no ab training. No situps, cruches or other malarchy like that.
Lets face it - all our babies are so precious, none of us will want to put them at risk. They're just too darned hard to get!!!
Diamond, that's a low prog result. What a total bummer. I've said it before - days 21-28 of the cylce are the most crucial for cell formation. Nature demands perfection and if the chormosomes aren't all lined up right, nature puts an end to things pronto.
Re stats: I picked those stats up two months ago off the UNSW study I found. They pertained to live births resulting from IUI in 2004 in Aust & NZ. Remember when we talked about this last? I have always found IVFA very reluctant to give out real stats. I wanted them to tell me how many people conceive on their first transfer and they pretended I said nothing. I also wanted to know how many cycles it took on average to conceive. And by cycles I mean how many stimulated cycles with ocyte collection plus all subsequent transfers. They wouldn't give me that info either. So it's pretty freakin' hard to weigh up the odds when people won't tell you the facts.
Our IVF specialist gave us 30% success odds based on our medical history and our age. That's a three in 10 chance of having a baby with IVF. But 10 what? 10 transfers? 10 cycles? 10 months? 10 years? 10 trips to the moon and back? They never said.
Here's what we know about IVF: it is a numbers game. The more you try the better chance you have of success. That being said, you must have the money to keep trying, and that's why we dropped out. As I said before, our challenge was male factor. I really believed DI would work for us as it wasn't prove that I had any real problem. I also felt DI had a lower impact physically, emotionally and psychologically - and I was right.
I say follow your heart. If your heart says IVF, then go for that. There's nothing wrong with changing tack if you believe it will up your chances. There have been times when I thought we were running from one treatment to another, and somehow that was desperate. I realise now it was just me refusing to accept no for an answer. I say you should also refuse to accept no - I feel you're close. All you need is for everything to line up at the same time.
Lets talk about statistics - are they accurate ?? Is it just a case of good timing and luck ..
At the risk of offending everyone, after last week's discussions with numbers and statistics, and BT''s, there is absolutly no way of knowing if any treatment, IVF-IUI-Natural- is going to work. I really feel it is too stressfull to look at statistics. We are in the lap of the gods, what will be, will be, all we can do, is wait, and hope to god, that we are blessed ..
Am I wrong in throwing this out there - do we honestly have a chance with statistics and numbers and levels, or is it just pure luck ...
All we really want to know is - when is it my turn, when will I get to hold that beautiful baby in my arms, and I must say, I am not cynical, I really do wish the best for everyone, but I belive all we really are wanting to know - is when
take care of yourself hun. xx
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