LT Trying to Conceive with IUI #5

hi guys,
this has been a very informative discussion!
i ended up having a pregnyl shot on cd10, then the iui on cd12.
my cycle is always short eg 23-26 days.
i am doing a day21 prog test this month, but i am also on some support from my
acu lady as she specialises in ivf/fertility.
however i am going to get some b6 today. i am taking a heap of tablets
but think that i more can't hurt.

mummawannabe- i have just used letrozole for the second month. GL with your search for a new FS.
originalP- thanks for all the great advise with BDing!! we did hold off for a few days before the iui and BD that night and then the next.

bye :)

Ok Kittycat! That "Day 21" test needs to be 7 days after IUI. "Day 21" refers only to a normal 28 day cycle. In fertility treatment land its the 7th day after IUI.

Good luck! And let me know how you go - I like stats!

:-)
OP.

thanks for that originalP,
i am contacting FS tomorrow about the date of progesterone test.
i don't understand why i have to find out these important things from others and not him.
he only did it because i asked.
i sometimes wish i had a choice of fs.
thanks again....:)

Kittycat, I wish you had a choice too. But look at it as a chance to learn more about yourself. Because being master of your own destiny on this journey goes a long way towards helping with the upsets that invariably come up.

And you'll be in a much better postion to teach your daughters about their bodies when the time comes.

I wrote you a load of information on progesterone levels in a private message last week, then BB promptly crashed on me. Here's some reference numbers to help you understand the results:

Normal Progesterone Values
female (pre-ovulation): less than 1 ng/mL
female (mid-cycle): 5 to 35 ng/mL
male: less than 1 ng/mL
postmenopausal: less than 1 ng/mL
1st trimester: 11.2-90.0 ng/mL
2nd trimester: 25.6-89.4 ng/mL
3rd trimester: 48.4-42.5 ng/mL
Note: ng/mL = nanograms per milliliter

Special note: Day 21 Prog reading in bold however, this score will go up by about 20 points per follicle that has ovulated. So you might see 56 if two follicles popped an egg, 75 if three popped. I always think a good Day 21 prog level is an positive indication, however, luteal support such as pregnyl can cause progesterone to be artificially elevated, which can get your hopes up for no reason. And nobody wants that.

Cheers,
OP.

thanks for all your help originalP,
i spoke to my FS nurse yesterday and she said that i have the 21 day test to comfirm ovulation. even though i had follicles, a good thick lining and pregnyl shot i still could of had empty fluid filled follicles???!!!
she said that the follicles will erupt and if the egg is fertilised then naturally they will prduce enough progesterone for pregnancy.
i am confident that i ovulated as i check my mucus (sorry TMI !) but i hope that my body does produce enough progesterone on it's own!
where's my confidence??
i have no signs this month so far. which is good as i had non when pregnant in 2004!
thanks

Sheeeeezzzzz!!!! Honestly, some people in the fertility business have got the most appalling bedside manner. Here we all are paying thousands of dollars for treatment and they come out with comments like "you could have had an empty follicle sack".

My advice to you is to wipe your memory of that most unhelpful and unsupportive advice. Here is a check list to confirm ovulation:

1. Pulling type sensations in the pelvic region (where the ovaries are)
2. Good clear, stringy mucus.
3. Basal body temp of around 36.2
4. Day 21 prog test of around 25-40.
5. Onset of AF 14 days after the appearance of that good, clear mucus (like to also be 14 days after your trigger injection).

I know people can have empty follicles - a friend went all the way thru ocyte collection in IVF to produce no eggs. But it's a RARE occurence. I don't want anyone here putting it on their list of worries.

:-)
OP.

PS - the corpus luteum on the follicle is where the progesterone and the hCG are coming from. On an ultra sound you can actually see the blood flow on the edges where the follicle popped.

Hi, im new to this and have been ttc since nov 07, so thought sharing mite help the heartbreak. I do have a healthy 5 yr old son but now have POCS and I'm currently on treatment through the IVF centre. We were doing ovulation induction because my partners sperm is very healthy. This time we decided to do IUI. I'm a little confused though coz they did the IUI on the same day that they gave me a trigger injection. Shouldnt it be on the day that i actually ovulate??? Sorry it so long , any info would be appreciated.:D

geeeeezzzz OriginalP you are sooooo smart. :)
you would think after 3 years i would have some idea of what was going on in my body and the fertility world.
i have been told my FS is "conservitive" and the nurse, who was very helpful, said we are limited up in Cairns. all the blood tests for Lh and estrogen get sent to QFG in Brisbane so it is not much use doing them.
i have been seeing a great IVF acupuncture lady, and she has encouraged me to get onto FS more about questions and procedures. he does not believe in any alternative therapies or the effect of acupuncture on fertility.
i don't chart my temp (which is very naughty) but if i get a BFN this time i will start.
however did get the clear mucus but no ovary pains.
i will just have to wait and see how the next week goes, and the result of the prog test.
thanks for your advice and help.
:)
michelle

Hi chellie and welcome!

IUI on the same day as trigger is a new trick - but FSs have many tricks which we all get to hear about on this thread. I'd ask some questions - like whether they though follicle size plus hormone levels indicated the follicle was on the verge of popping that day.

But in most our experience, IUI happens 24 hours after trigger.

:-)
OP.

Kittycat - be very careful about telling your FS about your natural therapies. My experience with most doctors is they simply think it's quakery. If you ask me, fertility medicine is the ultimate in quackery. I'm not convince they know half as much as they think.

We learned very quickly not to tell any of our doctors about the naturopathy we did. The midwives that handled our IUI treatment were receptive. But we listened to our doctors carry on about Francesca Naish and the Jocelyn Centre being a waste of time, and we just blocked our ears.

In this game, playing your cards close to your chest is most advisable. That way the little things you do to help you feel better never get trampled on.

Cheers,
OP.

i totally agree with you about the FS thing and natural therapies.
my FS said i couldl do what my acupuncture lady had suggested. he said "it couldn't hurt".
what a confidence booster he is!
i think in our position you have to listen and try everything. even if it has such a small % of working!
thanks
michelle

Thank you OP. I had the scan on the same day (last Monday) and i had an 18 mm follie. I was using ovulation testers and had a slight pink line but they hadnt done any blood tests. I continued with the ovulation tests but i still havnt goten a positive ovulation test. Im wondering if the IUI was a waste of time (and money). they keep telling me because of my age that i should have no probs falling pregas but its just not happening.

Hi ladies i hope you dont mind me barging in!! i was just wondering if you could tell me if you bother with FSH the night before a 7am trigger for IUI?

Thanks

Hey everyone, you guys seem about confused as I am on a daily basis trying to figure out exactly whats going on!

I postponed my 3rd IUI to seek a 2nd opinion re moving onto IVF and also to test out the waters with a different FS as can't stand current one.
I went to Wesley in Brisbane and the FS i saw there was great - very supportive, thorough and the smallest thing i appreciated the most - I asked a question and he responded appropriately! Whoa - i know - big deal! I kind of did a test asking him the same question i asked my last FS to see what his response was. Let me tell you he passed!

So after looking over my results and asking about my family history the FS said he would recommend at this stage of the game to have a MRI (re my consistantly high prolactin levels over the last 12mths) and a hyseroscopy, laproscopy, dye insufflation, D&C and possible lasering of endometriosis (if present). Talk about thorough. When i asked my last FS about any more tests before going to IUI and IVF he said i had been tested to the hills and there was nothing further to do unless new tests were invented - what a ****!

Am interested if anyone here has had any of these procedures and can share - pretty please...

hi mummawannabe!
i just wanted to say that i had severe endo and polyps removed in feb 2004 with a laparoscopy. i was pregnant naturally 3 months later!!!
i had another laparoscopy in june 2006 to remove an ovarian cycst and was told endo was ok. since then i have done 6 x IUI's Four using clomid and two with letrozole....
i have also had a stim IVF cycle and a nat FET. we are lucky enough to have 2 frozen bubbies on ice. all of which have obviously been BFN.

so i think a lot of women are in the same boat.
what to do next? what will work? why didn't it work? what's wrong with me?
i don't have any faith in my FS at the moment. we are no closer to getting a BFP now then we were back when we started 3 years ago!
it is hard to find someone you can trust.
i think you should have the laparoscopy for investigation.
Goodluck with your journey.
not sure exactly what you want to know about the procedure, so if you have a specific question let me know!!!

Mummawannab : I had an HSG with one FS, which showed a blocked tube, and took the results to a second FS, who wasn't fussed at all by the result. I have found, since visiting two differnt fs clinics, and seeking three opinions, that each FS clinic, has there own protocol. To give myself, peace of mind, I weighed up my own pro's and cons and decided on a clinic and FS, and then decided to have faith in there procedures. I think I completly lost the whole point of my post then .. lol, sorry, IMO I would have a Lap, before I had a HSG, because of my past experience. And you have age on your side, so a month or so off ttc to check out every possibility would be my choice,

Kitty - How are you going with one day til testing ?

not good.
i had a progesterone test on day 21 which was last saturday. it was 53 which i thought was ok and means i have at least ovulated. it was only 23 in march before i started letrozole.

i then started to get my AF pains on day 22 as per usual. they continued monday but subsided yesterday and today??? WTF...anyway i still have some pains but not as bad as usual. had some blood when i wiped after going to the toilet (sorry for TMI!) this is very standed for me as i never get past day 26..i have had some different feelings of nausea and extreme tireness this month which i am putting down to the chinese medicine called "fertility support 2" supplied by my acupuncturist. i hope it was incresing my progesterone.
my big concern is my FS and is unwillingness to try new things. i have been told by his nurses that he is "conservitive". he doesn't believe in any natural therapies. i have no other choice in Cairns at the moment. however there is a new guy moving here soon! yah!
so as far as my current cycle, i'm pretty sure i am out. i have been pregnant before and know what the signs are. although i have heard women have AF signs and a BFP!!!
GL with your #4IVF cycle.

Well Kittykat, I hope you are getting strange symptoms for a reason, and af has continued to stay away today

KK - If you can, try consulting a naturopath about your short cycle. I honestly believe you can successfully address this. You need at least 11 days from day of ovulation to create a good enough environment to support implantation (ie the build up of a nice thick endometrium that stays that way through to the 12th week), and on a 22 day cycle, you're not getting that.

I've said in the past that Vitex can address this. Many people worry about taking Vitex, and if that's the case, I say do it under the supervision of a naturopath. It has an immediate and positive effect on the production of hormones. With everything in balance you should get a better cycle length than 22 days. In my opinion the liquid form of Vitex is the best, and you can really only get this from a naturopath. Yes there are tablets, Blackmores Vitex, which only cost $12.00 a bottle. I'm all for them. But as I said, the naturopath is great for this kind of thing.

Re your Day 21 Prog - 53 is an excellent result and tells me that there was either fertilisation or that two follicles popped. Yay! Well done!

Have you had your end of cycle BT? We all want to hear the results of that! Or... has the cycle not ended???

:-)
P.

hi originalP
what is an end of cycle BT?
the only BT, appart from progesterone, that i have ever done was with my ivf.
my af came on cd26 and i had the pregnyl shot day 11 and IUI was on day 12.
does that still sound like my luteal phase is too short?
i have done vitex through a nat/path but am considering doing it again. i am going away at hte end of the month and am not going back to FS for awhile. not only because of finance probs but also because he is not trying anything new or different. he just wants me to keep toing iVF/Fet. i told the nurse co-ordinator that my cycle is wrong and they don't seem to concerned.
ho hum?
what to do.....i feel like i am bashing my head against the wall.
thanks for your help and support.
michelle

sorry, i forgot to say that i am on letrozole again this month. we are going to try just time "loving"!!
but i am going to get some vitex as well!
thanks

Hi KK,

End of cycle BT is a pregnancy test! Seems superfluous, I know, when you clearly have AF. However, it's used to check progesterone and beta hCG levels to determine whether there was a fertilisation and attempted implantation. Its gives the FS additional information on how the cycle went.

i will dig through my stuff at home and see if I can find the paperwork on the White Protocol, which is what my clinic used for my IUI treatment. It clearly says what gets done on what day, what tests when and so on.

Lets hope this new FS arrives in Cairns soon. Some fresh ideas and a new approach would be good for you.

:-)
OP.

thanks so much OriginalP,
your help is great and really appreciated.
i just feel like giving up as nothing is changing.
my FS just dosen't seem to give me 100% and i can't afford to waste any more time or $$$$
thanks
michelle

Hi my name is Sonya,

I have never posted anything before, only lurked.
My Dh and I have been ttc for two years and started treatment at the end of last year. We have had five clomid cycles which resulted in two chemical pregnancies. We had our first iui on the 10th of July and I am now in that very frustrating period of the tww. Blood test on the 27th.

I have had three pregnyl injections, with the last this morning. I was wondering if anyone else was on pregnyl and what your symptoms are? Is pregnyl responsible for all pregnancy symtoms? I am extremely bloated, have lots of little pimples on my face (I never really get pimples) have sore breasts, headaches and the bouts of nausea started yesterday.

I hope you are all well and are having a good day today.
Sonya X

Hi Sonya
Welcome, just thought id let you know that i had the pregnyl injection with my last IUI and it gave me pregnancy symptoms really bad, specialy the really sore boobs! unfortunately it didnt work for me. As far as i know the pregnyl contains the pregnancy hormone so therefor makes you feel pregnant, it will also turn up on a home pregnancy test for about 9 days after the last injection. So your best to wait for the blood test, i got my hopes up doing a HPT.
GOOD LUCK AND BABY DUST TO YOU.

Hi Sonya,

Take some time to check back through this thread and the previous ones to find past discussions on Pregnyl. We've all used it at various stages with varying results.

My experience of Pregnyl is that it really can't be trusted in terms of you knowing what's really going on. It mimics pregnancy symptoms and drags your cycle out longer which adds to the anticipation. Ask your FS to tell you what your progesterone readings are too, and these can be a better indication of what's happening.

My recommendation to you, and anybody with PCOS, is to get yourself onto B6 supplements ASAP. Also try Vitex, which has a direct and immediate impact on hormone production, particularly where PCOS is concerned. Blackmores brand of both are readily available everywhere, and not expensive.

Very good luck to you!
OP.

Thanks for the replies.

Everyday I have to keep myself from testing. I was thinking about testing just to compare the strength of the lines, but DH keeps convincing me that it is counterproductive. I know he is right, but I feel like I need to do something.

Chellie88: I completely understand the sore boobs they just keep getting worse! Nausea is not really there anymore, which could be a bad sign.

Original P: Thanks for the advice about the vitamins, I have heard of vitex before I think I wll try it, because my hormone levels are not good. I don't actually have PCOS just unexplained infertility and weird cycles.

6 days to go until BT, thanks again Sonya

Sonya, we've all also talked at length about HPTs and the destructive impact they can have when used by someone on fertility treatment. They simply do not reflect the reality of a situation. In my case, an HPT showed negative - and was wrong!

Another supplement that's really helpful for hormone support is Thompson's Kelp. It supports healthy thyroid function, which in turn enourages the pituitary to talk to your ovaries and get everything in balance. Lipoec acid can support good liver function, which also has a role to play in healthy hormone production. I've published a list of vitamins a couple of times on this thread - check back if you want more info.

Just know this: many, many members on this thread have succeeded and gone BFP. You can too. Just keep trying and focus on drawing good luck to you. These are the two key factors for success, in my opinion.

:-)
OP.

Hi girls,

Just spent the last hour or so reading all the past posts, it is so good to know there are other people out there that are experiencing the same feelings.

OrginalP- you are an amazing source of information thank you! I actually have low thyroid function, but have been repeatedly told that is not an issue, I am on thyroxine and because my blood is in the normal range it shouldn't be a problem.

I was wondering if anyone knows what the correct Basal Body Temperature should be during the luteal phase. Mine is between 36.5 and 36.6. I have read that it is very low. Overall I have a lower temp cause of thyroid issue. My Chinese doctor said that it needs to be higher for the fetus to survive. I have been on herbs for 6 monts but my temps haven't increased.

Hi girls,

Just spent the last hour or so reading all the past posts, it is so good to know there are other people out there that are experiencing the same feelings.

OrginalP- you are an amazing source of information thank you! I actually have low thyroid function, but have been repeatedly told that is not an issue, I am on thyroxine and because my blood is in the normal range it shouldn't be a problem.

I was wondering if anyone knows what the correct Basal Body Temperature should be during the luteal phase. Mine is between 36.5 and 36.6. I have read that it is very low. Overall I have a lower temp cause of thyroid issue. My Chinese doctor said that it needs to be higher for the fetus to survive. I have been on herbs for 6 monts but my temps haven't increased.

Hope everyone is well, Sonya x

Hi Sonya,

The thyroid function certainly is very interesting business indeed! I would normally clock a thyroid reading of 0.22 - 0.4 and while my GP thinks this is fine, my naturopath thought it needed addressing, hence the Kelp supplement. I never saw any dramatic change in the readings through our two years of treatment BUT - I do think there was an impact on my immune system. I had lots of headaches all the time and two to three cases of infected sinus per year - I would say I was in a state of general malady and didn't not fight off illness very well at all.

Since the BFP, my thyroid function has tripled and I have not been sick once. My husband came down with a shocking chest infection recently and I managed to escape it. I have been able to eat anything I want and have actually been losing a little weight behind the "normal" expected weight gain. This leads me to believe that a better performing thyroid has an awful lot to do with good health and there'll be a time in the future when I ask my GP to help me improve my normal thyroid function.

For now, my recommendation to you would be to find a good naturopath that can address the thyroid issue. The Chinese Herbalist is right to give you herbs, but if they haven't improved things for you so far, some extra help never goes astray.

Re your luteal phase temps, everyone is different and you just need to know what's right for you. I don't think your temps are too low at all! And honestly, when you get a fertilisation, the embryo will do everything it needs itself. It's amazing how that works out.

Cheers,
OP.

Hi girls,

Just thought I'd pop in and introduce myself.... DH and I have been ttc for about 7-8 months all up and found out recently DH's sperm has a high viscosity. Our gp has referred us to a FS and says they will recommend iui for us. I'm quite confused about it all but have spent the entire afternoon trying to read the threads related to this issue. I can see there are only a few people posting recently, so I hope all is going well for you all. Does anyone know if I will have to take drugs if the problem is with DH? I don't quite understand it all!

Thanks :)

GOOD LUCK SONYA!!!! I don't know anything about the pregnyl sorry but i wish you all the best....

Loupy welcome.... I can't be 100% sure if you would have to take anything but it is a high possibility, most likely be clomid or something similar (again can't be sure) it would ensure you ovulate around day 14 of your cycle and they can track it better, and ensure that they inject the sperm at the right time... I had irregular periods and tried clomid and timed intercourse with no luck, i then took clomid and we did IUI and fell pg 1st try unfortunately i had a ectopic pg and lost my baby and right tube. Im one of the lucky ones because 6.5 weeks after my operation for the ectopic i found out i was 6 weeks pg we did it naturally miracles do happen.... GOOD LUCK with everything and i hope you have all the answers really soon..

Hi girls, sorry about the double post :oops:

Congratulations Janeo!! Your story is amazing.

Hi Loupy, it is likely they will put you on a low dose of clomid, which is 5 tablets taken day 3 to day 7 of your normal cycle (this can vary slightly). This is to ensure ovulation, they monitor with ultrasounds. Sometimes they give you a HCG trigger shot so they get timing right. The trigger shot is given 24 hours before the IUI. It really depends on your FS. A friend of mine used this protocol.

When I used clomid it was only timed intercourse, no iui, because there were no male fertility issues. My FS generally uses purgeon (an injection taken from about day 2 to day 16) with IUI's. He said it is because it is more scientific and controlled than trying to time IUI's with Clomid.

I have also heard that some FS do IUI's by monitoring a natural cycle (no drugs) when the issues are male and not female. I imagine this would be a bit more difficult to get the timing right though.

OriginalP That is very interesting about your thyroid issue. I am currently on a higher dose of thyroxine than usual because my dose was increased as soon as I got pregnant the second time. So I actually have a slightly overactive thyroid at the moment. The reason for this is because my endocrinoligist said that 90% of women who have an underactive thyroid need to increase the medication because the little one uses it all. He decided to leave me on the higher dose because of my pregnancy plans. Although I usually lose weight when I am overactive, maybe the fertility drugs are counteracting that. I am not sure how much research you have done on thyroid but it basically controls your metabolism and basal body temp. When I am overactive, I dont sleep very well (due to higher pulse I think) but have heaps more energy, so I was quite happy to be left on the higher dose.

I tried a natropath about a year ago, I was on supplements, herbs, flaxseed oil and goji juice. I had to go on a detox and my body went into a bit of a meltdown and I missed two AF. So I gave up on it. I think my natropath was a bit over the top. Though I may try a different one if this doesn't work.

Sorry about the length of this girls, but at least it fills a little of the time while I wait.

I think I had some implantation bleeding today, I am 12DPO, and it was mostly brownish mucus. Fingers crossed it doesn't turn into anything more.

Fingers crossed the bleed is implantation sounds promising :) ...... Thanks for the congrats i dont like talking about my pg on here too much i know how hard it is TTC after 3 yrs of TTC with 2.4 active yrs of trying i know hearing about other peoples pg can be hard....

Loupy welcome. Make sure your clinic gives you lots of information about the protocol they'll be using with your treatment. When you first read the info it will be hard to understand, but as you begin to go through the process, it will all make sense.

For my treatment I was prescribed Puregon which is an FSH injection. It's also commonly used in IVF. Ask your doctor to explain the difference between Puregon and Clomid as they do work in very different ways. That way if you have a choice you can make an informed decision.

Sonya, on the naturopath front, you really need to find one that specialises in fertility issues. There's no way anything they prescribe you should disrupt your cycle for two months. If you live in Sydney and want a couple of names, send me a private message.

On the thryoid issue, my mother has suffered hypothyroidism since 2006, and I have seen her struggle to understand how to help herself. She sleeps less, gains weight easily, and finds it hard to stay on an even keel emotionally. The thyroid seems to be a very tricky thing to deal with when there are problems. In fertility treatment, the main thing is to get it working in balance with the pituitary and ovaries. That's why I like the naturopathic approach - balance and harmony seems to be the key. And with modern life the way it is, we women seem to lose their grip on both these things without even knowing it.

:-)
OP.

Thanks janeo, OP and sonyalouise. Good luck sonya... hopefully you have yourself an implantation bleed! I'm going to go research clomid and puregon

DH and I couldn't get in to the FS until August, so I'm going out of my head trying to understand what happens. Do you girls know if there is something I can read somewhere that explains the entire process (or maybe the earlier iui threads explain it?). Or can you tell me how the actual insemination happens? ie, is it similar to a pap smear or different? I'm quite clueless :redface:

Hi Loupy,

Do a search for the White Protocol on the internet - it's the process my clinic used to support IUI.

The procedure is quite simple - it's no more complicated that a Pap smear. You'll attend the clinic and DH will head off and provide a sample (my DH never did this as we used a donor). The scientist will "wash" the sample. This is to remove any dead or less than ideal sperm (the majority of the sample contains rubbish so there's nothing unsual about this). They do this by putting the sample into a culture medium and allowing the best guys to swim to the top into a gelatinous substance which will be transferred into the uterus along with the good sperm. Think of it as lube if you like.

The actual insemination involves getting you onto the examination table and setting you up with a speculum. DH can be with you the whole time (but obviously not at the business end!). The doctor or midwife will draw the sperm into a catheter which is basically a long skinny wire-like tube. This is then passed through the opening of the cervix and positioned at the top of the uterus. The sperm is released with a little injector and the catheter is removed. All this should take about five minutes if you have a healthy cervix.

Many clinics then ask you to remain lying down for 20-30 minutes, but plenty tell you to get up immediately. My clinic liked me to stay lying down. The IVF clinic I went to liked me to get up and get out pronto. Time is money!

Then you wait. IUI day is counted as ovulation day aka Day 14. Most clinics ask you to come back on Day 21 for a progesterone test (this is industry best practice and if it's not offered to you, you should request it). The primary purpose for this is to confirm ovulation took place. I am of the opinion this can also indicate fertilisation MAY have occured (but only if the figure is abnormally elevated). The more follicles that popped, the higher the progesterone reading will be.

You'll then do a PG blood test on day 28-32 depending on your clinic's individual approach. If it's BFN they'll ask you to start the process all over again on day four after AF arrives. Even if AF has arrived before you do you BT, you should do it anyway. It gives them a chance to see if anything DID actually happen (they'll be looking for elevated levels of beta hCG) and adds to data on how to help you better next time.

It's gorey detail I know - sorry to those that didn't want to hear any of that! But that's basically IUI in a nut shell (stim part excluded).

Cheers,
OP.

Wow, thank you so much OP. Sorry for all those not wishing to read about the whole procedure but that has just made the entire process alot clearer to me! I really appreciate it. I don't think I've done one thing at work since I've started reading into iui ! Will keep you posted on how we go, and thanks again for everyone's support ;)

Loupy - good luck and be positive! But remember, IUI success rates are comparable to natural ones. In the same way you'd give yourself at least six to 12 goes naturally, so too should you be prepared for at least six goes of IUI. My girlfriend got it on her fourth go, I got it on my fifth.

Cheers,
OP.