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Way to go craftnanny!
AFM-having a meltdown now we spoke to the geneticist today and they said SLO can have a wide variation and siblings effected with it can show no obvious signs on ultrasound or all of them like Abbi so they want me to have an amnio so we are booked in for 10am monday morning and the results will take about 3 days OMG!!!! what if she has it!
crafty - sorry to have about AF but grats on becoming a nanna :) I like your idea about the clomid, if I could get my heads on it I would be giving it a go too!
ferrals - keeping everything crossed for monday, you poor thing :hug: hope you get fantastic news. Each and every pregnancy is different I'm I really hope this one goes perfectly for you.
Ferrals - OMG this is never ending for you poor darling. I was hoping for such differnt news for you. I can't imagine what you are feeling and going through. Obviously with this info the test is the way to go and all we can do is cross everything that she is as perfect as she looks. I hope with all my heart that come next thursday you will get the happiest news of your life. :crossfingers::goodluck::crossfingers::goodluck::c rossfingers:
Crafty - Congratulations, can't wait to hear if its a boy or girl.
Ok I'm doing my head in today! I had so much to get done and I've have zero motivation. I want to see a FS I'm so close to telling DH to man up and just do it, AF is only a couple of days away and already losing it at the thought of it coming. FFS I don't know what to do, make him do it now, wait it out until the end of the year then make him, just keep going blindly or give up. This is killing me, I'm a mess today, I did another HPT just incase! Of course it was a BFN. :wall:
I can't take this anymore. :crying: Sorry for the crappy post, I just can't handle this atm and if I hear or read anything else about my drinking, smoking, child abusing SIL's pregnancy I'll scream!
I feel the same i have had enough i dont want to do this anymore it is all to much so up and down i just want it over with and with my DH's 17 yr old smoking skanky niece and my cousin and my other cousins wife all due around the same time they are all planning baby showers ect thats 3 babies due around march same as me why couldnt they get pregnant another time i dont need the stress of all these healthy babies to undeserving mothers who take their babies and their bodies forgranted why is life so friggen cruel.
ferrals go get the test done and at least you will know then !!! I feel sure she is very healthy and even if she had a mild form of slo would it be so terrible if its very mild ? Abbie had a really bad form bless her ! try to relax you don't know yet don't give up just yet !!! You know my 9yr old has a genetic condition and they don't even have a proper name for it its so rare they told me 1 in 4 chance of it happening again and I had 4 kids since then and all of them ok so try to look on the bright side its not all bad !!!!!
toomanyshoes look at me last week I was the same as you !! it sucks but you have to carry on trying NO PAIN NO GAIN !!! and the pain of a BFN is really bad I know but next time it could be a BFP !!! look on the bright side its really hard when your feeling so down I know only too well but I managed to pick my self up and you can too !!!
Love the craftynanna !!!!
hi girls - just sneeking in to send my love to u all!
Crafty! Happy Nanna Day! Cant wait to hear how everything went! Great about the Clomid!!! Its a new plan on attack and i like it!
Sunbeam and Alice - oh you poor sweethearts, breaks my heart to read what an awful time your both having... there is nothing i can say to make it better but im just so sorry that your feeling so blue...
Sunbeam - i hope your cruise is fabulous and it soothes your soul and you can clear your mind... enjoy those ****tails while you can, cause next month you will be on mocktails my love! That baby is coming, i feel it in my waters!!!!
Miss Alice - As for you young lady, AF cramping can be such a great sign!!! I still feel like AF is coming! It started about 10DPO for me and its still happening! And the restless sleep has got me very sus with you!! Buy those magic stick tomorrow and Im praying they give you those magic 2 lines!
Sending special love to you all... i hope your BFP's are just around the corner, im always thinking of you all.... All is fine with me, scared senseless but just taking each day as it comes....
xx
Craftnanny-Unfortunetly they will not know how mildly she will be effected but 98% of SLO babies are quite serverly retarded they dont feed due to sucking and swallowing problems and almost all will be peg (tube) fed for the 1st 8-12 months of their lives they will have autistic behaviours and don't sleep most will only ever sleep 2-3 hours at a time and they shrill scream a large portion of the time they are awake when they are older the head bang and self harm and need to be restrained and that is a mild case with no major organ problems so as you can see even a mild form is cruel there is the rare case where a few SLO kids are just really slow and have the autistic and self harm issues but do i take the chance thats no life for our girl.
Alice-i did not have any pregnancy signs i was even irritable like when AF is comming leading up to my BFP so hang in there.
ferrals - SLO sounds horrible, I agree with you, I would not want to sentence my child to that. Amnio will give you an answer and then you can relax. I have a feeling it will be very good news, fingers crossed, not much more to wait.
Alice - fingers crossed for you too. You really deserver your BFP.
Sunbeam - from what you write, it sounds to me like you really want to do another stym cycle before January. If the frozen embies did not work out, do you think you would regret not doing the stym cycle? If you think you would end up thinking "if only....." then I'd say do another stym cycle now, just so you can tell yourself you did all you could and be at peace. And isn't the success rate higher for fresh embies?
toomanyshoes - men just do not understand the urgency, it is not happening in their bodies. I think I would mention the FS visit to DH again too....
craftymummy - congrats on the grandbaby!
AFM - did another HPT this morning just to see if it is over. Still says "pregnant". I would never think positive HPT can upset me, but it did. I guess I'll try another one in a week.
hello everyone,
Another middle-of-the-nighter from me. At least I got some sleep.
Crafty, congratulations nana!!! That's exciting news, now you have to get yourself set up with a web cam so you can enjoy this baby from afar. Any chance of a visit?
Ferrals, it is just so heartbreaking to read the effects of SLO ... I mean, I knew it was bad but I had no idea how bad even a 'mild' case could be. You are right, that's no life for your daughter. Poor little Abbi. What you have been through - are going through - it's just, I can't even begin to imagine it. it is an ordeal that never seems to end, this not knowing and fearing the worst. You have handled this so strongly, melt-downs included. I keep thinking of your early pg hcg that was so high - almost twins level high - and hoping that was a sign that she is a good strong healthy SLO-clear baby. I just can't believe you have to go through that test again and then wait three whole days. We are here for you every single step of the way, every minute. All you can do is take one day at a time, hang in there, and hopefully this will be the very last of it.:grouphug:
Luna, :hug: to you too. I guess it is going to take time. Very sorry you are going through this again :(
Toomanyshoes, and to you too :hug: I'm completely with you on the smoking front - my DH only quit 10 weeks ago after 10 years of TTC. In the end I said to him that I didn't care if he smoked for the rest of his life (I do and he knows it) but the least he could do was 3 months to try see whether it made a difference. I keep expecting him to go back to it any day now but so far so good. I'm proud of him and so incredibly relieved he seems to have finally quit. I hope you can sort things out with him and he can realise just how stressed and upset this is making you. I would push on with the FS appointments and maybe get a sperm test done - it might give him a kick in the pants (so to speak) to make a change. Worked for my DH.
Sunbeam, from everything you've said, I think try another stim cycle before Christmas. Hopefully this time they will get the OHSS under control. I've been wondering if that could have been a factor in the embie not taking this time? Also this time, insist that they put you on Clexane from transfer onwards - it is supposed to help with implantation and early miscarriage. I am on it for slightly elevated antinuclear antibodies and anticardiolipin antibodies (you've had those blood tests, right?). You are right - it's no good thinking about what's fair and what isn't, it's just the way things are and sometimes it just sucks. I feel sad still but resigned to whatever outcome we get now.
T-hopes, thanks lovely. It's not AF cramps at all, just painful ovaries which I get before AF. I suppose it could be my ovaries settling after the stimulation and the bleeding from the egg collection but I really don't think so. I had very strong AF cramps right before my last pg and this is different - more like the pain you get from a cyst. Anyway, what will be will be now, I just have to go with it. Some sleep would be good though! Glad all is going well with you and hope each day you go from strength to strength x
Love to everyone - Mildez, Saffy, MatthewsMum, Porsche, Clairesmummy and anyone else I've missed xx
Night everyone x
:stork-girl: Jessica Anne 6lb 5oz Now I am a craftynanna !!!
Had lots and lots of tears ! some of joy some of sorrow but mostly of feeling so sad that I will not get a real cuddle only photos !!!
Didn't sleep a wink last night waiting for news so really tired and eyes really sore !!!!
congratulaions craftynanna!! :cheer:
I hope you get to see you little granddaughter very soon and get a big cuddle xx
Alice- I was on nightshift last night and got your message on the spot as I was just playing on the computer trying to stay awake when you posted!! Good on you, you can't change what the result is going to be, so fingers crossed +++++ that you get a nice surprise! oh, and some sleep!
Luna- sorry you have to go through this, it makes it harder when it isn't just 'over' IYKWIM and you can't move on. I hope things improve- hugs for you xx
Ferals- heres hoping you get your results soon, you have done enough waiting, you have the patience of a saint xx
Toomanyshoes-:hug::hug: you poor darling, I think all DH's are similar, mine won't stop drinking ( not that he does much) even though last year he had 2 months of the year where he had a break from alcohol just to be healthy, when it came to our last cycle, he not only didn't stop I think he drank more. :wall: I'm sure your DH is trying, it sometimes takes a while to completely stop smoking. Sorry also you have to hear about your SIL x
Sunbeam- thanks for clarifying the situation with donordaddy, i wasn't aware of all that. Saying this, I have no idea what you should do, you seem to have some good options at lewast, shame about the cost of everything. I know that after all you have been through you deserve to be holding a baby right now, it is not fair that you have to go through this xxx
THopes- hi!! Glad everything is on track, we miss you and hope you can get some enjoyment through the stress of the early stages, you will be 12wks before you know it girl!
Clairesmummy- when is your FS appt?? I really hope you ge some clarity on your situation, and whatever the problems are ( if there are any) are easily fixed! Maybe you'll get a sneaky bfp before your appt??
OK thats about all I can type, hi to everyone else- mildez, porsche, matthewsmum, any lurkers :D
Alice I think you asked if I was jabbing yet- not yet, pill until Sunday then jabs start next Friday. Going to Melbourne for the weekend for DH's BD to stay in a swish hotel, can't wait!
Saffy- I'm currently waiting for AF to arrive atm, would like her to arrive today or tomoro at the latest as I have to go back to my DR when she gets here today or tomoro to be referred to the gyno but if she don't arrive until Thursday/Friday DR wants me to go back in later in my next cycle for another BT. DF is going to have his SA done either Friday or Monday and hopefully he will come back all clear and have good swimmers, FX. I have been having a few cramps today like AF is about to arrive at any minute but when I check there is nothing. I just want her to get here so we can get the ball rolling, DR told me that the gyno will more than likely put me on Clomid. I just want it all to happen now so I know what we are dealing with. I would have to be the most impatient person I know....lol.....poor old AF can't win with me one month she is being abused for turning up and now this month she is being abused for not turning up. Last month I had a 25 day cycle and so far this month today is CD26 for me.
Thats so true about AF!
But if she just got the hint she needs to go on a holiday for 9 months everyone would be happy....
Well, she better either- not come at all and give you a BFP- ??any symptoms???
or- HURRY UP so you can go to the gynae asap and get on clomid
good luck clairesmummy!
Crafty-congratz hun i hope that you will get to feel that feeling for yourself one more time.
Alice-Part of me tells myself that everything has been textbook so far she has to be normal and the other part says everything has gone to sh#t with the testing ect and it is turning out very similar to Abbi's pregnancy except the u/s problems so i worry that it will be a huge let down i dont want to give my girl up i want her safe inside me i hate having to have all these tests they are invading my girls safety barrier from the outside world but i need to know for her sake it would not be fair.
How are you feeling today any cramping ect i didnt feel any different until after my BFP the EPU makes you sore bloated and pretty dam uncomfortable so it's hard to tell what is what in there i just want you to know all my hopes are with you for your twins i still hope they will both stick and i look forward to your BT results to say told you so.
Tomanyshoes-how you doing hun i hope today was a better day for you.
My man gave up smoking when we were having trouble falling pregnant for the 2nd time With Abbi it didnt take long but i found out when we saw the naturopath that he was still having the odd one here and there at work ect about 3-4 a week it wasnt until his sperm test came back that he was the problem that he really gave up and the next sperm sample was perfect so men just dont get that it really does take 2 to get pregnant they just think yeh yeh i will deposit my sperm then it's up to the women to do the rest they are so arrrhhhgggg!!!!!!! sometimes.
Luna-hun it would be heartbreaking i hope you have another real line in the very near future.
Saffy-I am starting to lose my patience but i try to think everyday i have to wait is another day that i have my girl and can imagine that she is healthy in their i dont think i want to face the reality of the results just yet.
Clairesmummy-come on witch show your face when we want her she is late and when we dont want her she turns up when she is not welcome i hope you dont have to wait to much longer.
AFM-My mum told all my family step sisters and step brother aunties uncles and grandparents that there is a grandaughter on the way even my mole of and step SIL was told the one who was nasty to my mum after we lost Abbi and i refuse to speak to her.
Well i ran into her today and she just looked me up and down and ignored me lol no loss stupid cow but i did hear from my sister that she said to my step sisters i wonder if she will get to keep this one seem she cant have girls.
I hope she is wrong.
Saffy- aint that the truth...lol....poor ol' AF she never seems to get things right for any of us when we want her to....Thank you for the good luck wishes I think I am going to need the luck this cycle. Not really sure if I have any symptoms had a huge headache last night usually only get little niggles of a headache when AF is coming. Having some mild cramps today like AF is here but I haven't even had a bit of spotting yet, did have very sore bbs for a few days now they just feel heavy and look bigger usually only get tender nipples with AF. Feel pretty worn out today but I have been busy. Dr told me if AF hasn't arrived by Friday to POAS cause I may have O'd really early and BT just didn't pick it up. So I'm not sure how that works......:confused: :dunno:
Crafty- Congrats on becoming a nana........:dance:
no surprise ... Big Fat Negative. No twins for me :shakehead:
Strange thing is bbs came back sore as ever yesterday. I'm 8dp5dt (13dpo) today so should come up accurate, shouldn't it? Seems like it's going to be a mother of all AFs when she arrives.
I couldn't get hold of a First Response ANYWHERE, only something called Pregnosis (has anyone used it??) which was really annoying to use, had to pee into a cup and float this miniature stick. Shouldn't have bothered, knew it would be -ve :cry:
Alice- not many poeple would get a bfp in the afternoon at 13dpo, you have to use the first morning wee which is much more concentrated so the hormone level is stronger, I wouldn't take that as accurate- try again tomorrow morning. Good luck, esp the boobs sounds good, I still haven't written you off yet young lady!
Claresmummy- you are also on my "sneaky bfp" possibility list