Clairesmummy - That sounds like such a head ache :hug: Hope your cycles sort themselves out very soon!
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Clairesmummy - That sounds like such a head ache :hug: Hope your cycles sort themselves out very soon!
Hi girls!
Claresmummy- wow, thats a hard one, its making my mind boggle actually- my gut instinct is go with the O signs you found and assume the blood test was too early ( normally they are done on day 21 if you O around day 14). Wait til you go to the Gynae as they will no doubt make it more clear for you. xx
Luna- hugs to you, hope the hcg goes quicklyx
toomanyshoes-just to let you know if you get the IUD( I assume you mean Mirena), many people have up to 3 months of bleeding/spotting before it goes for good, (the drs just tell you you could have a few weeks of spotting) so make sure you really, really want it because they are reluctant to take it out before the 3 month mark if you are annoyed by the bleeding. I hope you get a bfp before it comes to that anyway!
Possummagic-so sorry AF arrived, I'm sure you will get a sibling for your little one,your little baby-to-be is just making you be patient ( mine is too unfortunately). My crazy lady hasn't come out yet, probably because I haven't seen DH much the past day as we are working opposite each other! So I haven't had a chance to be irritated by him lol! Poor sucker.
Alice- how are you going? I hope things are settling down physically and emotionally and you are making yourself feel better with chocolate, and maybe a glass of wine or two?? :hug: xx How did you go at the TCM?
Crafty- how are you love? How are your son and DIL going with the new addition?
AFM-jabbing, start the antagonist tomorrow, feeling good so far! And feeling positive for Fridays scan! :D
Thanks Saffy, I've had the Mirena before at the same time as a D&C, I only spotted for about a week then it was nothing at all for the 12months it was in. I'm hoping it doesn't come to that either, AF has just finished but I'm trying not to chart it and just live life at the moment. GL friday :)
Hi all
Still checking on you all everyday but not posting much !
Saffy FX for you scan friday not long now ! I am sure your bub is nearly here just need a little help in catching him/she !!! as we all do on this thread !! DS and DIL are fine and Jessica is being well looked after, DS is showing DIL how to do things he has had many years of practice lol !
Alice hope your ok and your charts are looking good for you !
too many shoes hope you decide to stay on here with us trying and trying you have to be in it to win it ( a baby I mean ) feels like that sometimes when you have been on here over a year but we have to keep trying if we really want the end result of a BFP we all feel like giving up I for one give up every month AF turns up only to start counting the days all over again !! who am I kidding you never really give up on your dream !
Luna hope your hcg is gone now !
AFM well had a pos opk of 2 very dark lines yesterday so I guess I am ovulating any time now so been DTD when necessary and now I guess I am in the TWW, the clomid wasn't too bad although over the weekend I was in agony felt like my belly had been kicked by a horse and couldn't even lean against the sink to wash up without pain and discomfort but all settled now so I am hoping we got to get a good egg and now we just wait and wait and see !!!
Hello my lovelies,
Sorry for the absence, been drifting along feeling a bit disconnected from everything but had a night over in Sydney during the week helping out a friend with something and seem to have turned a bit of a corner, so that's good. Life coming back into focus and feeling more a part of it all.
Saffy, good luck for tomorrow's scan - hoping you get a good egg count. Grow follies, grow!!
Possum, I've been on a cake-athon mmmm and I've had a few glasses of wine....and a coffee...I even had a packet of chips on my way home so yeah, living pretty dangerously at the moment LOL...ah so sad (as in pathetic) but never mind! Glad chocy is helping you though sorry AF showed her face. Yes, the dream of a take home baby...that's a powerful one. It's hard watching friends reach - and then pass - milestones like that. And I don't think the fact that you already have one baby means you're not entitled to feel all the things you are feeling about wanting another one. We can all relate and we're here for you and will hopefully see you settled into the PAML thread soon. Good luck this month.
Crafty, good lord that pain does not sound good. Do you normally get O pain? That's pretty severe. I hope it has gone now. I can't help being a bit worried about you taking medication without an FS to keep an eye on things (sorry for being a worry-wart). Maybe you laid a double-yoker?! :) I hope you caught it and your TWWs are over soon. Fingers crossed.
Luna, grr the hcg lingering around. Are you doing any exercise? I wonder if that might help get things moving around any faster? Thinking of you.
Sunbeam, I'm picturing you lying on a deck-chair, with a ****tail in hand and a bright blue sky above you. Hope you're having a relaxing time and feeling rested and refreshed x
Clairesmummy, that's super confusing?? I know a mc can really throw our bodies around and lots of women in here have had weird cycles so lets just hope yours goes back to normal really soon.
India'sMum, how's DH's eye? All better I hope. Any luck on the :bd:?
Ferrals, we miss you already but glad and relieved for you that you are finally where you belong - enjoying this precious pregnancy. Has the tag party happened? How was DH's little girl? She must have been over the moon.
MatthewsMum, how are things with you? Where are you up to??
Toomanyshoes, Mildez, Porsche - hi to you all xx
Who have I missed? :pink-babydust::stickyvibesboy: to everyone
Hi Girls,
it turned out that I had an ectopic pregnancy after all. I actually tried what Alice suggested and went to the gym, felt c*** that night, so I thought things were moving. But on Monday, my hcg went up to 2600, so finally after 2 scans, they found the pregnancy in the tube. Good news is, it was very small, so I got the shot of methatraxate and my hcg will be monitored weekly. Hopefully I will not need another shot and there will be no damage to the tube.
The sad thing is, from what I've read everywhere, you have to wait at least 3 months after ectopic, to let the tube heal and to wait for the methatraxate to get out of your body, because it can cause birth defects. If you get 2 shots, the wait is 6 months, so I am hoping to avoid the second shot. But even the 3 month wait depressed me and I think I am ready to throw in a towel. They say after 40, the mc risk is 50%. If you had an ectopic, your risk of another ectopic is 15%. I am looking at those numbers and it is very hard for me to convince myself that I have a chance for a healthy pregnancy. And in 3 months, I will be 3 months older. I am ready to quit, but the thought that I will not have another baby makes me just so sad.
I will be taking a 3 month break for sure then, I did not decide yet about the future. I will be stalking you ladies, because I think a good success story is what I need to lift my spirits up. So good luck to all of you, I am keeping my fingers crossed and counting on you, do not let me down.
Kisses.
Hi all
Alice I am ok really just had a few twinges but nothing I can't handle and yes I did take a bit of a risk I know but I was so desperate to try clomid to see if it helped me and the Drs say Im too old anyways I am fine now and just awaiting the outcome I guess, TWWs are not my favourite time but has to be done, thinking that maybe I should just accept my fate and give in gracefully if I don't get a BFP by christmas as my age is against me for sure and with a 60 odd % of misscarriage at my age can I really take another loss if I managed to get a BFP I think no is the answer to that one, DH made me promise not to take clomid again so I guess I am back to just living on hope and thats not really enough for me month after month,
Luna I have had a very healthy boy when I was 43 and yes there is a higher risk as you say but there are also women out there still haveing babies at 43 44 45 46 and even 47 so I guess we have to decide how badly we want another baby , I am sure your 3mnth wait will go by quickly and your body can recover well from you ectopic in that time and well I will probs still be here trying and I will be 46 in April next year !!!
sunbeam hope you had a good trip sure did miss you in here !!!
Saffy how did it go ? its your turn for egg pick and trans !! came around quickly hey !!!
guess ferrals is moved on out of here now she got good news miss you babe !!!
matthewsmum you still around ? how you doing ?
afm just trucking along in this TWW wondering did I catch the egg and is it just the one !!!! oh dear guess its gonna be a long long TWW the longest ever for me !!!
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Hi ladies-
Luna- I can't believe you have an ectopic, that took a while to find. I hope you only need one shot and its good news that your tube is still good. :hug: 3 months sounds a long time but it will go quickly.
Alice- glad you are feeling better I was wondering if you had disappeared cos you were unwell- onwards and upwards though! I am a cake addict too, I would bake all the time but have to restain myself else I would just eat cakes constantly!! How did your visit with the TCM go?
Crafty- I got swollen ovary pains on clomid but it goes quickly once you O, I hope this will do the trick and that you don't end up with triplets!
Hi to possummagic, toomanyshoes, claresmummy and anyone else xx
Good news for me :dance: I had a great scan, 5 follies on the R side and 6 on the L that are all between 10-18mm, so I'm booked in for EPU on Monday- can't believe it si actually happening, I'm so excited, I am feeling positive :D
Luna-the odds play on our minds i had a 1 in 4 chance of having another sick baby and i beat them and was in the 3 out of 4 this time so you can do it i know it seems like the chance is slim but it really isnt look at the 50% chance of a healthy pregnancy not mc and the 85% chance of the next pregnancy not being eptopic those odds are still good i had the 75% to 25% odds and i snagged it so dont give up.
Crafty-I still stalk i miss you girls but i am finally enjoying my pregnancy i have a nice belly going on now and our girl kicks up a storm so i am in heaven i am keeping a close eye on you girls and praying for some good luck for you all.
Alice-all the tags are off and we have even brought some more stuff and laybyed a pram so its all happening.
DH's daughter is over the moon she cant stop talking about her baby sister comming and is even picking names it is wonderful.
Ferrals, I miss having you here but not for the reasons you had to be here, IYKWIM. So happy for you and for DH and his little girl - she must be over the moon. My niece got a little sister when she was 21 (different mum) and she is so in love with her - has pictures of her on her phone and on the computer at home, she talks about her endlessly. I had a bit of a lurk in the PAML thread yesterday and was glad to see everyone was doing well but it also made me a bit sad to be still here. I don't want to be a downer by posting there for so will enjoy your visits here instead. Don't forget about us!
Crafty, here's hoping my love. Ferrals is right, in a way we can't think about those statistics because each go is a new chance and plenty of women beat those odds and who says that can't be you, or me, or Luna? Will be watching your TWW and hoping for the best for you. Damn doctors really annoy me that they won't help you. It's your body and your money after all!
Luna, I'm so sorry...:hug: was really no expecting to read that after all this time but glad they found it before it caused problems for your tube. I had to wait 3 months after my mc before trying again...and it turned into 5 months so I really do understand how you feel, you just want to try again soon. The 3 months went fast for me in the end and I used the time to concentrate on getting my general health better so maybe give yourself a few goals and hopefully it will pass quickly. I really hope you don't have to have the second injection. Have you spoken to them about being on antibiotics when you are ready to try again? I think you definitely should do that - lots of docs over here recommend it when there have been tubal issues to deal with any lingering infection etc that might cause problems. The one I was on was called Doxic but probably has a different name over there. Exercise will help get the drugs out of your body quicker too so when you are feeling well enough I'd recommend trying to do as much as you can. We'll miss you here - please drop in and say hi. :hug: xx
Saffy, :dance:CONGRATULATIONS!!!:dance: wonderful news!! Good luck for Monday, I hope you get lots of excellent eggs!! Oo so excited for you it would be so good if you were one of our next BFPs!! Good luck!!!
I have another bad day again yesterday - made myself go out and be around people but it was very hard. I know I have to get through this sad time I just hope it passes soon. I can't believe that I won't have a baby, I've always thought that it would happen eventually but I'll be 42 in a few weeks so feel like it is slipping away. Gotta believe in that little frostie and maybe when we feel up to it we can register out at Westmead for a last go.
To Luna and craftymummy9
I will be 47 in November, and have been trying for 2 yrs with my new man. Miscarried at 6-7wks in May 2009. Not that this is meant to cheer you up, but at least we have something in common-age. Don't know if I've told you, but we have very very minimal hope at using IVF bcos of my age, therefore our only hope is through a donor wherever she is. What makes me so upset when I come to think about it is that with all this technology they cannot enhance your egg quality. We've been married for nearly a year now, our anniversary in November and after I miscarried we made a conscience decision not to try for a bubby prior to the wedding for obvious reasons. Whether that was the right thing to do or not-whether through that decision we missed our only other chance I don't know, but sometimes it has me thinking. But of course when November came around we were raring to go and off course nothing happened. Then got bad news back that my levels and ovarian reserve were good or what the doctor would say "they were consistant with my age" iF I have one more professional tell me that I will scream.
I/we would dearly love to have a child, I don't know how its gonna happen or if it will ever happen. What we really want is to hear from a little guardian angel-if you know what I mean
So would love to hear some more stories from older trying to be mummies again
MY LEVELS AND OVARIAN RESERVE WERE NOT GOOD, :doh:
Luna - I did wonder why things went on so long for you. At least with the ectopic being found you now have an answer. I don't think you have to make a decision about stopping until after the 3 months you are advised to wait. Take that time to just live a life without the pressure of TTC and see how you feel in three months. I think Alice's advice about spending that time making yourself healthy is very good advice. I was advised by my own doctor not to try after 43 but I lost a baby 3 weeks before my 44th birthday and I find it too hard to stop just after a miscarriage so we kept trying and now I am now don't know when to stop. I have had doctors since who advise me to keep trying. I often wish I could stop but I know that I can't change my mind in a couple of years and say I wish I had tried a little longer so we will keep going until the end of the year and then have another think about it.
Saffy - Good luck for Monday sweetie.
Alice - I really feel for you. I think children can come to us from different places though and your dream might be fulfilled another way. I will tell you a story (but I am NOT suggesting this be your path). Friends of ours tried unsuccessfully for years to have a baby. They decided to place themselves on the adoption list and requested a baby but it's really hard where they are to get a baby via adoption (they live in Canada). After a couple of years on the list they were asked if they would accept siblings, two girls aged 4 and 7. And so they gave up their idea of a baby and embraced a new dream when they took the girls in. The following year they were contacted by the authorities who told them the mother of their girls had given birth to yet another child (her 8th I think) and this baby girl was instantly given up. The authorities wanted to keep siblings together so they asked our friends if they would consider adopting this baby. And so the dream they thought they had to give up was reborn and now they have a baby. I think you will be a mother one day. It will likely be to your little frostie but it could also come from somewhere unexpected. I think you were meant to be a mother as you have such a good heart.
AFM - AF showed up on day 27 so I doubt DH's eye injury would have made any difference. It's made me feel really sad but I am having a lot of health problems at present so it's possibly a good thing.
1+2=3 - Sorry, we posted around the same time. Welcome to the thread. I am also older at 44. We have been trying to have our second baby for over 2 years. I have sadly lost 4 to miscarriage which the doctors tell me is due to age. We are still trying but thinking we will need to stop soon. I wish you all the best and hope that it isn't too late to achieve your dream. I hope that guardian angel is out there listening.
Alice: I can feel the ache as you write and so wish things did not have to be this hard for you. I hope that you will still get to be a mum in one way or another. You seem to have lots of love to give. In the meantime, i hope you don't begrudge yourself a little foodie comfort. We all do what we can to get by and a little wine, cake and chocolate are not such a terrible thing. (Well, it works for me anyhow- the cake and chocolate at least. I don't have much of a taste for wine). Maybe too it's the limbo time that is the hardest. You've just finished a cycle and maybe are wondering what to do next? When you have a more definite plan (whether it be a time frame for having your 'frostie' or going on the list for fostering) perhaps you will start to feel more energised?
Luna: sorry to hear about your ectopic but glad they found it before it did damage to your tubes. I'm sad for you that you face another TTC wait but hope that it will go quickly for you. I was told i might need methotrexate to clear my last pregnancy. The issue with it (and why you have to wait to TTC) seemed to be that it decreases folate stores. I asked my dr whether i could have a blood test to check my body had enough folate before trying again and he seemed to think so. Just thought i'd pass on this information in case it's of help to you.
India's mum: Sorry AF arrived and that you are having some health problems. I hope things look up for you this month.
Ferrals: So lovely to hear that you are enjoying your pregnancy and to think of all the excitement for all your kids thinking about the baby sister that is coming.
Saffy: Good luck for EPU!
Craftymummy: we'll be in the TWW with you to keep you company : )
1and2=3: Welcome to Belly Belly. That is very hard that you have not yet had your dream fulfilled. Are you trying now without IVF or actively looking for egg donor?
Toomanyshoes, Clairesmummy and anyone else i missed, hi : )
AFM: Starting to get EWCM. It's only day 9 of my cycle. Not sure if this means i'm about to ovulate very early (it doesn't usually happen before day 12 for me) or whether this is a sign that 'o' is coming in 3 or 4 days. I can never remember whether EWCM is meant to start exactly at 'o' time or a few days before. Excited to be trying again this month knowing we are ready to TTC again without the uncertainty we had last month of whether to go for it or wait longer after mc.
1+2=3 Welcome to our thread. There are quite a few of us here in our 40s so we understand well what you've been through and are going through now. We all hope for a miracle and it's not impossible just seems remote at times. Are you going to try using a donor? Best of luck to you x I don't think most doctors understand the emotional side of TTC, we hear a lot of things we don't want to hear and I can relate to you feeling fed up with it.
Possum & India's Mum, thank you both for your lovely posts. I'm so grateful for the support I've found here. You ladies rock xx
Possum, EWCM usually shows up a few days before you O - can be three or four days - and then disappears quite quickly afterward so you will probably o around your usual time. Good luck!
India's Mum, I'm sorry to read you are having a lot of health problems at the moment. I hope they are not too serious and you will be well again soon. Thinking of you.
Sunbeam - come home we miss you!!
Hi to everyone else xx
Thanks Alice, hope you DH and the chooks had a restful weekend. Did it rain like crazy where you live? It was pouring here. I got drenched walking home from a friend's house.
Hello all
1+2=3 welcome to the thread I am sure you will find lots of support here and as Alice said quite a few of us in our 40s some waiting for number 1 some of us waiting for a sibling, no matter we are all here as we have lost through mc and finding it very difficult to get UTD again ! I am not sure if you have kids already but I do and its as hard for me as for anyone wanting there 1st baby, but I have managed to get pg 3 times in my 40s only to have mc sept 09 at 13wks but after a long hard year I think I am on track again my old body took a while to get back to normal and to even get a normal cycle but I did get there in the end, I feel if we keep trying and beleive in ourselves then anything is possible ! so take it easy and try to realax and hopefully you too will get a BFP soon, as for ovarian reserves I guess your results were just consitant with your age as are mine but most Drs work on statistics and well I am by no means an average statistic I have gone against all the odds over the years so don't let it put you off !
possum great news on your EWCM but just DTD as much as you can until around day 19 just to make sure ! I have a lot of EWCM still and have had it since day 10 and now I am on day 23 so who knows whats the story with that but I did do opks and got a possitive one on day 17 so maybe think about doing them too jsut to make sure FX this is your month !
Sunbeam where are you ?
Alice sorry your still having bad days me too some days are just the pits and others are not so bad so I guess we have to take the good and the bad hey !!! I am sure your little frostie will give you a long awaited BFP but in the mean time keep trying natural like you never know !!! I was waiting for my 2nd try at IUI after having success in 1991 and low and behold got a natural BFP in 1995 against all the odds so never say never ! You are so lucky to have chooks my kids would love some, we got guinea pigs and a dog as we live in a built up area but would love to move oneday onto an acreage and have a pony and some chooks !!!
Luna hope your ok not too much pain and bleeding
saffy hows it going ? when is egg pick day ??
indias mum hope your doing ok hope your health probs are not too serious !!!
afm well day 23 lots of clear mucus but nothing more than that no pain no tingly or sore bbs so no idea if we will get a BFP or not probs more likey a BFN as normal !!!! oh well onwards and upwards as they say but am getting more and more used to the idea that my time is up !!! I am at peace with it but will keep trying anyway just to spite myself LOL !!!
Luna - You poor thing, it’s so slack the Dr’s have taken this long to give you a definate answer, hopefully your lvl’s come down very quickly and you can start TTC again sooner rather than later :hug:
Crafty - Anything happening yet? Dying to find out if the Clomid worked!
Saffy - Great news about the scan, how did today go?
1+2=3 - :hug: welcome to the thread, I hope you find the comfort and support you need during this time with these wonderful ladies.
India’s mum - Sorry to hear this cycle was no good, hopefully your feeling better and DH’s eye’s back to normal and you’re both in your prime for the next cycle!
Alice - It’s awful your having such a hard time :hug: I really hope you’re feeling better, keeping everything crossed for your little frostie!
possum - Hoping you caught that egg!
AFM - I couldn’t help myself and looked up when I would ovulate, was over the weekend and DH parents were staying with us. Trying very hard to just stay casual about it all, not think about symptoms, look at dates etc but boy it’s hard. So many girls I know are due between now and Christmas, think I’m going to have to stay away from Facebook or I’ll end up in tears again. At least DH mother behaved while she was here, the weekend actually went better than expected other than them dropping not so subtle hints about us moving back to Brisbane.
Hi girls,
just reporting in to say we had EPU today and got 10 eggs!!!!
SOOOOO happy, was gearing up for 5 or 6 so I didn't get disappointed, now they have to fertilise!
Sorry no persies, will come back tomorrow or later when I am not so tired, good luck everyone xxx
Hello Lovelies, so sweet to know I was missed, thank you :D
Claire'smummy - I used to O very late and once found a site listing a woman who O'ed on CD65 and went on to have a baby from it!!! Bt is usually done on CD21 for women who O on or around CD14 and it checks your prog. level so no if you O'ed on CD34 a bt that day will not pick up the rise. I'm having one on CD30 as I sometimes O as late as CD25.
Luna - I am so sorry to hear your pg was ectopic but I'm glad they were able to catch it in time to save your tube though I am sure this is little comfort to how you must be feeling :comfort:
Alice - You had it excatly right, I was lying on a deck chair drinking yummy ****tails under a clear blue sky for much of my week away. It was hugely relaxing especailly with the swaying of the boat the whole time. I'm sorry you are still struggling with the down days it is so hard to fight it when all you want to do is curl up in bed. I hope you find the strength to pick yourself up soon sweetie. :hug:
Crafty- I hope you clomid TWW is not draging too much. If I recall right I had way more EWCM on clomid than ever before so that might explain it. Lets hope it did the trick and produced one or two nice fat eggies for you.:crossfingers:
Staffy - Whoo 10 eggies great job!:clap: How are you feeling? Not too sore I hope.
1+2=3 - Hello and welcome to our thread :welcome:
AFM - Well I did have a lovely holiday but unfortunately my back is the worst it has ever been and I have been on painkillers everyday since I went away (they go great with ****tails!!) I went to the doctor yesterday to get a referral to the back specailist. I called this morning and the receptionist said there were no appointments till January. She was really lovely and when I explained I'm on daily painkillers and starting IVF again in a few weeks she squeezed me in for the 17th Nov. what a love! Due to my codine haze yesterday I managed to fall down the stairs:doh:! Judging by the bruising I think I'm lucky I did not break a toe. On the other hand, thank goodness I was drugged up at the time or it would have hurt heaps more, I'm sure it did my back heaps of good too - not!!!! I have managed on one nurofen plus only today but still I'd rather not be taking anything right now but I can't function otherwise.
I had EWCM on day on CD15 and 16 so hoping I O'ed around CD17 (not unsual for me). I will go for a bt at the end of the week to confirm this and if I did not O then I will take duphaston(?) to start AF (or I will be waiting till CD45 for her!) I am keen to start round 2 but not feeling overly confident I guess each month just knocks that little bit more out of you.
Missed you all :grouphug:
Saffy, :happyforyou: well done! that's a great number and here's hoping they fertilise nicely. When do you find out???? :goodluck: xx
Sunbeam!! Welcome back, we missed you!! So sorry your back has been bad - my brother suffers from it too and I know how difficult it is to get through the day. Glad you enjoyed your holiday anyway but hope things improve before you start your IVF. Ferrals was right, the first go at IVF is always a bit of an experiment so this cycle is bound to work better. :crossfingers:
Thanks Crafty, I love your fighting spirit. Good luck with the TWW - hope the Clomid did the trick x
Toomanyshoes, glad the weekend wasn't as bad as you feared - it's always hard being home with the inlaws, they just can't help themselves with giving advice. Sorry so many of your friends are due soon and I really empathise with the tears. Wish I could say something to make things better :hug:
Possum, thanks lovely, it rained a bit but mostly sunshine which was nice as we've had so many grey weekends lately. One of my little hens is getting old and I had to clean her up because she was covered in poo! (sorry if TMI!) then I decided to clean out their enclosure and found a rat in the layer box. So what did I do? I picked it up :doh: and of course it bit me! Lucky I'd had tetanus up to date and was wearing gloves so it was OK more a shock than anything. Still don't know why I picked it up but there you go! Other than that my weekend was pretty quiet. Hope you had a good one x
:hello: everyone else - hope you are all well and being kind to yourselves x
Sunbeam- :hello: welcome back, we did miss you, glad you had a relaxing time. What a pain that your back has to ruin all the benefit of your relaxation, that must be sooo frustrating. Fingers crossed for Round 2- you can do it x
Alice- the rat story just about made me puke, I HATE rats, can't believe you picked it up- and it was alive!!! Foul. On a more serious note, I can't believe you ( or anyone) has to contemplate not ever having a child, it is such a hard sentence to even say. I really hope that something works out for you, I know it must be hard to hang all your hopes on a frozen embie, but as Indiasmum said there are different ways of being a mummy. You are such a lovely, kind person with such a lot of love to give you deserve to make someone else happy. My counsellor I was seeing was big on having a plan and thinking about what you were going to do if you never became a mother, I found it very confronting but i understood where she was coming from. Positive thoughts to you and hope your body gets on track quickly :hug:
toomanyshoes- I doubt I will ever go through a month without doing those calculations again- it becomes ingrained doesn't it. Avoid facebook where possible, glad the weekend was ok x
1+2=3-welcome, sorry you have to be here sweetie, I hope you find support xx
Craftmummy-how many days post O are you?? :goodluck:
Possummagic-just DTD everyday you get the EWCM, you ovualte at the end of it, I used to not pay attention to it and missed Oing as mine is sometimes early Day 9-11. Hope you catch the egg! :dance: x
India'smum-sorry you missed the egg, hope your health is improving, or is it a long term thing xx
Phew, I think that is it, sorry if I missed anyone, had some catching up to do, hi to all the preggy girls who are stalking, hope we all come to join you soon x
AFM- phone call from FS nurse this am just when DH and I were discussing it, got 6 fertilized eggs! Very pleased with that, so am hoping there will be 1 or 2 to freeze FX.
ET booked for Saturday then on to the TWW- yay!
LOL Saffy I don't know what's wrong with me I just saw small furry animal and instinct was to pick it up. What an idiot! I'm going to docs today just to make sure I don't need antibiotics or anything 'cause everyone I told yesterday looked at me with horror like I had the bubonic plague! Anyway, it was a bush rat which is much smaller than the ones you get in the city, and really not THAT much bigger than a mouse. Still next time I will leave it well alone! I had the same conversation with a counselor many years ago and also found it confronting. It is less so as time moves on and I feel we have done all that we can. I do believe I will have a family so it's just a matter of investigating how that could happen. I am really encouraged about fostering after hearing quite a few positive stories so I think that is the path we will go down if our frostie doesn't make it. We have other things going on so I have to wait until May next year to try again then we can get things in motion. I really want to see some positive news here before I have a break - you ladies deserve it so much, I'd like to just have one place to visit you all in the PAML thread so please make my life easier and move on over there soon! Thanks for your kind words too - means a lot to me. xx
And thats FANTASTIC news about the fertilisation rates - will be cheering for you all the way!!
Everyone seems a bit brighter today. It's been a hard few weeks for us all so it's nice to see that optimism emerging once again.
Saffy - wonderful news about the 6 eggs.
Sunbeam - Welcome back. Sorry about your back. I was imagining you would come back all healthy and refreshed. I hope things pick up soon.
Alice - Mum has bush rats at her place and they look rather sweet but as you have proved, they are not sweet at all.
AFM - I have been having tummy problems for awhile but nothing that won't be resolved with a bit of time. The doctor thinks I may have an small infection in the colon so I am on antibiotics for that, I have a very acid tummy too and I think I made that worse as I took the baby aspirin last month thinking I might be pregnant. Also, the last pregnancy stirred up my hemorrhoids (sorry TMI) and I am trying to get that back under control before I get pregnant again which will stir it up again. All my hair is falling out (again, thanks to being pregnant recently) and I have a shocking cold. But otherwise I am feeling ok and optimistic.
hi everyone,thought i'd just let you know i've been reading even though i've been slack on posting,you have been in my thoughts...
Hi everyone,
will post properly tomorrow but wanted to ask quick question (sorry for selfish me post but i got a +ive OPK so i'm very um... focused at the moment!) After 2 days EWCM and no 2nd line on OPK today i got a very clear positive OPK. So i'm off on an egg hunt! But i also got one small spot of red/brown (blood ?) today. I'm sure i remember someone posting that they had some spotting around ovulation time. Can't remember who though. NEver had it before. What's with that????? Anyone got any advice? Nothing to worry about?
possummagic-sorry,not sure about the blood,wouldn't think it was anything to worry about seen it was just a spot & brownish, just wanted to say happy hunting...
Still lurking here. Thank you very much everybody for your kind words, you made me feel a bit better, so I am not giving up yet...
possum - a tiny speck of blod around O time is normal and can be a good sign. It may be blood released after the egg bursts out of the follicle, so probably a sign that you ovulated. I hope you did your homework girl!
I just wanted to share this little warning with you ladies. Perhaps it is nothing, but better safe than sorry I guess. So I am trying to figure out the cause for my ectopic because I do not have any risk factors, other than age. Around 3-4 days past ovulation I had really bad stomach virus and I took anti-diaharreal medication. Those medications slow down the smooth muscles contractions so your intestines can calm down. But smooth muscles contractions is what moves the fertilized egg from the tube to the uterus, so if you slow them down, I guess the egg goes nowhere. I asked a doctor if it is possible that the medication caused my ectopic, and he said that the theory makes sense, but there is not enough data, so it is impossible to prove. You will make your own decision of course, but if I am ever again in this situation, I think I'd rather spend a week on the toilet than take a risk.
1+2 - I know it is not impossible, my own grandmother had a second child at 44 and I know that she could not have been trying more than just a couple of months (jugding by the time betwein my grandpa's return home from the hitler-stalin inferno and my uncle's birth). I am just not sure if I will be this lucky too. Unlike my grandma, I smoked cigarettes in my 20-ties for a couple of years and now I am thinking I destroyed my own eggs with my own hands. You have no idea how much I regret it.
Saffy - you are my best bet for the cheer-me-up happy story now. With 6 eggs successfully fertilized, I think the odds are pretty good. I will be waiting for good news then.
Alice - how are you doing? I cannot believe you picked up a RAT. They did not want to give you a rabies shot?
luna-thanks for the info,i never thought of that...glad you've decided to hang in there ,hope you get your next bfp soon...saffy-how are those little embies growing?..afm-i'm in tww,due to test on saturday,natural cycle so it will be a long shot.Finding the acupuncture a bit painful,hope that's a sign it is doing what i need it to do.Thinking about going to see a kineologist,apparently they have good success helping with depression,the oesteopath i've been seeing recommended it ...
MatthewsMum, nice to see your name pop up again. How are you?
Possum, think Luna is right about it being blood from when the egg releases and nothing to worry about - good sign you've o'd at least! Good luck catching that egg x
Luna, we don't get rabies in Australia and the 'rat' I picked up is a native Australian mammal, not the European variety! I certainly wouldn't have picked one of those up - yuck!! We do get them in the city but I live in the mountains near the bush so we get lots of the native ones - they look like a big mouse (not that I'd normally pick one of those up either - don't ask me why I did it I don't know!!). Sorry you are having such a difficult time. I understand the regrets you feel, we all have them in some form or another. I have no idea what caused my endometriosis - their is no agreement on it - but when I see how much healthier I am now I wonder if years of not so healthy living in the city in my late 20s caused it. Not that I was wild but I went out alot, worked long hours and drank too much (for me). Who knows. Still that sounds logical what you say about the medication and it is good to share that with others TTC because the thing is we just never know. :hug: to you. Hope things come good for you again soon.x
Saffy, no pressure hon but we're all barracking for you!! Any more news?? x
MatthewsMum, we posted at the same time. My acupuncturist said it is a good sign when the needles hurt more, means you are more sensitive because your body is getting healthier. I did a mindfulness meditation course a few years back for depression -it was the best thing I've ever done. I can send you the info if you PM me (there is a set of CDs and worksheets). :hug: to you too and good luck for this cycle x
Arrrr! I'm so stuck to know what to do. My back is no better and I am due to start my next cylce sometime next week. Obviously I can't have a transfer if I'm still on painkillers. I've booked acupuncture for my back to see if that helps. I'm not due to see the neuro surgeon till the 17th but even if there is something he can do I doubt it will happen till the New Year. I am going to try and cut back to just panadol over the weekend but I am doubtful it will be enough. If I have to freeze my embies and wait for treatment or an operation for my back to fix before I can use them I will be so bummed that could be months and months. I realise my back would struggle to handle a pg right now but the idea of MORE waiting is just killing me. What should I do?
Sunbeam - I have a bad back as well, 4 crushed vertebrae. I would rather be pregnant now and having to get around in a wheel chair to help deal with the pain than having to wait any longer, and I'm being completely honest. I know another pregnancy will be very straining on my back and put me in a lot of pain but another baby is worth that to me. Only you will know what you can handle :hug:
Sunbeam- thats a hard one, I'm not sure what you should do, what normally fixes your back? I will pray for a miracle that it just sorts itself out ASAP so you can have your transfer.
Hi toomanyshoes, are you ok?
Alice-thanks, I don't mind being under pressure! Hope I can come up with the goods in a few weeks. I don't get updates about the embies I don't think, just have to wait til Saturday and find out, no news is good news!
Luna- I think little hairs push the egg along the tube- don't feel like its your fault about the medication xx Hope you are feeling ok soon and can get another bfp when your body is ready
possum- I have heard about an ovulation bleed but never had one, sounds about the right timing tho.
Hi matthewsmum- nice to see you again, good luck for the tww, hoping for a miracle.
AFM- still a bit sore in the tummy but getting better every day, just had acupuncture, she felt there was something not quite right with my pulse, now I'm worried! I wish she had kept that to herself!! Counting down until Saturday xx
Saffy - if you mean in regards to my back, yeah i'm fine. I did two of them T7 and T9 years ago while still in highschool, only found out about T8 and T10 a couple of months ago. No idea when I did it. But I've learnt to live with it the best I can because there are no options, basically find ways to relieve the pain day to day and take pain killers when I absolutely can't stand it anymore. I don't take them every day, because 1 it gets $$ and 2 it's not good for my health.
Maybe the pulse not being right is a good sign?
alice-that course sounds good ,i'll try to pm you...sunbeam-hope the acupuncture helps,maybe she/he might be able to suggest something natural you can take with the panadol...toomanyshoes-4 crushed vertebrae-that sounds painful,hugs...saffy-counting down with you....
mathewsmum: sounds like you are going through a tough time. Sending you virtual hugs.
Alice: Sounds like your chooks get such loving care. Hope you are ok after your bush rat encounter!
Sunbeam: Hope you enjoyed your holiday. Sorry you've come back with a back problem. It sounds very painful in every sense of the word; You don't need any extra things getting in the way of TTC. I hope that your treatment starts working in time for you to do the next IVF when you want to.
Saffy: So excited you got 6 eggs! Good luck for the next bit!
Luna: Thanks for your kind words. Thinking of you. It's part of the post miscarriage heartache all the 'what ifs', i think. And the hardest thing is that we never really know what caused something to go wrong. I hope you are feeling better soon.
Toomanyshoes: Sounds like you've had a difficult few days. I hope the next few are better.
Pls forgive me if i've missed anyone. THank you to all you beautiful ladies for your feedback. I'm feeling good that we've had a good shot at things this month- DTD yesterday and got a positive OPK last night and definite ovulation pain today- but might try to get in one more just in case there aren't any cells dividing just yet! (Sorry if that's TMI!)
Hi Ladies
Saffy - Congratulations on 6 embies! I hope the *one* is in that bunch for you.
Sunbeam - I'm so glad you have a very relaxing holiday. You'll be ready and raring to go. I hope you get your back sorted out soon. Good luck with the acu.
Alice - I really hope you frosty is your lucky number. Are you planing on TF'ing soon?
Matthewsmum - I'm glad to see your name pop back up. Hope all is on track and well.
Possum - I would DTD for the next couple of days just to cover all your bases. Good luck FX.
hi everyone ,porshe-nice to see your name too,hope all is well with you & bub...possummagic-doesn't hurt to throw one more in.At least tww at the end of the year,we've got chrissy shopping to help distract us.