LT TTC after Miscarriage or Loss #6

hi everyone,porche-thanks for popping in...possummagic-was your date with dh 'o' related?..saffy-where are you up to in this cycle?i think the aggressive treatment she is talking about is lots of pins arond my fallopian tube area...

Saffy: Enjoy BD fest! HOpe you get your Xmas miracle... me too please!!
Mathewsmum: hope accupuncture goes well.No, date with DH was just to spend time together: so much often gets in the way of us doing that. And it was just a date with a movie on DVD but still, good to have together time cuddling on the couch.

AFM: TWW update. I'm proud to say i'm fairly sane this month. Trying really hard to take a 'whatever' attitude. I keep reminding myself we haven't been trying for that many months since the last mc so it could easily take longer to get UTD. But i'm still hoping we hit the jackpot this month. My body is keeping me guessing. I had cramping with 'o' and it didn't die down much so i figure it's now either pg cramping or pre-AF cramping. It sometimes feels twingy at the sides (pg symptom for me) but nothing really convincing (and I was totally fooled last month). I'm about 7dpo so still a few days to go before i could even think of testing. Not sure if i will test before AF due or not.

Possum Magic and Saffy - Good luck to both of you I really hope we see some BFPs in here for Christmas it would be a lovely way to end the year. :crossfingers:

Possum Magic - Thanks for the support about the MRI. I have no idea about the noise as I never got that far! Back has been a bit better the last few days but I'll still try again when I get the valium.

Porsche - Good to see your name babe.

AFM - Had a massive melt down yesterday. I finally had to acknowledge that the lady in my office is actually pregnant and not just gaining a few pounds! She finds out next week if its a boy or girl and mentioned that she does not mind either way as she never thougth she could have another one (her daughter is 9) SO WHY THE HELL IS SHE STILL SMOKING!!!! :wall: I cried for an hour at home then went to see a friend which made me feel better but I still feel very fragile today. It does not help that both my first 2 babies were due in this week (6th and 10th December).

I started to read the Fertility Diet book again and have pretty much decided that after 20 years as a vegitarian I have to start eating meat! As a vego dairy and soya are my main sources of protien. According to the book (and from my own research) both of these have a significantly negative impact on fertility. Being Lactose intolerant also means that I probably don't absorb much of the protien from dairy anyway. I have eggs, nuts and beans too but these are not going to be sufficient and are not great foods to rely on when you want to lose weight. Right now I am still trying to get my head around the idea and I will be seeing a nutritionist to see if there is a better option ( I really hope so).

Sunbeam - it really sucks seeing people abuse their unborn babies when other people who try to do the right thing struggle :hug: one of my SIL drinks heavily, smokes like a chimney and hung out in pubs/clubs during all 5 of her pregnancies with no complications at all! How on earth is that fair? Sorry you TWW didn't end in a BFP.

AFM - I've been MIA from the forums, I just don't want to be around pregnant people, my other SIL has her baby today, all the girls on facebook from school are popping out their babies between now and christmas.....I just want to crawl into a hole a die! Told DH about the latest m/c but it was in the middle of an argument and hasn't been bought up since. It is all just doing me head in at the moment.

Hope everyone else is doing well :hug:

Toomanyshoes - I don't have anything to give you except my caring support a big cyber hug :hug: and my total agreement, seeing pregnant women sucks, seeing pregnant women smoking and drinking sucks more and having miscarraiges just makes it all more unfair. I'm so sorry that DH is not being supportive that is really hurtful. On the upside being able to come in here with women that understand how it all feels makes it a tiny bit more manageable. I'm thinking of changing my signiture as it makes me sad to see how much more is on there since I joined.

I had another sad today. I went to medicare and handed in my stuff for my IVF. I was just praying the lady would not ask me how it went or I would have burst into tears on her. I also went and saw the doc to get my valium for my MRI (and waited an hour sitting next to a pregnant lady!) He gave me 25 5mg so I could try it out before I go. Well I've taken one and that is not going to be nearly enough (since I can still type, at least it looks legible to me!) I recon I'm going to need about 3 (and someone to help me get dressed afterwards!) I have booked to see a nutritianist next wednesday.

Toomanyshoes: I agree, very hard to be around pg people at times, especially when they just seem to be everywhere.
Sunbeam: Go easy with those valium! U don't want to be snoring in the MRI! On a more serious note, sending you cyberhugs for your angelversaries. No wonder you are feeling a bit fragile (as well as the pg chimney stack in your office). It's a hard time. Just totally makes no sense how people who take no care of themselves so often seem to have no problems having babies while other people look after their health so well and struggle. Very brave of you to think about such a big change in diet to help with pg. I hope you can work something out that feels comfortable to you.

AFM: 10dpo :2ww:

Meh... I caved in and tested. BFN. I know it's only 11dpo but i'm pretty sure it's accurate. Anyway, i'm glad i tested. Now i can stop obsessing and think about other things while waiting for AF and then 'O' to happen again. Also, i've only properly been trying again for two cycles and twice before i've fallen pg on cycle four so i'm trying not to expect it too much before then at the earliest. Even 5 or 6 cycles i'd be doing well (based on averages). I'm trying to see the positive: By delaying another month or two i should qualify for maternity leave from my new job. Oh well, sigh....

So i'll be hanging around with you ladies for a while longer... although it's pretty quiet at the moment. Guess it's that time of year. Everyone's getting busy or getting ready for holidays...

Hi girls!

Possummagic- sorry about the BFN- hoping for you its too early and changes its mind! When is af due? It would be good to get mat leave, when i started my job this year I was stressing thinking there is no way I won't be UTD by the end of the year and won't qualify for mat leave but guess what- here I am and now I will qualify- thats one good thing anyway. FX for you that the cow never arrives xx

Sunbeam- sorry you have been down lately-I have been struggling with tearyness too at random comments. Its a tough one. Two valiums should do the trick for you, enjoy the relaxation. I usedto be a vegetarian, got back onto meat after seeing an acupuncturist about headaches and she told me to start eating meat again, now I love it! Good luck with the nutritionist. xx

tooamnyshoes- come and vent to us-we can take it! SOrry DH didn't offer more support to you mate xx

Matthewmum- I'm about 3 DPO, so in no man'sland really. Hope your acupuncture goes well xx

AFM- had a cr*ppy week, xmas stress, family stress, DH stress, but had 2 xmas parties yesterday which were fun. I am being really careful with what I drink as a few drinks make me VERY teary, have lost it a few times. Oh well, just part of the fun I guess. This tww is like a nonevent for me cos i know it has such a small chance of working, because O took so long to come I am due for AF on xmas day- GREAT!!:wall:
Saw my FS Friday- nothing exciting to report will do a FET ( natural) next year, can't do it til Feb tho cos they are closed over xmas, he seems to think I have the same chance of success with this one as with the fresh cycle which I didn't know. Just have to save up $$ ( one of the DH stresses was his credit card debt which we had a massive fight about) So its a la natural until then, just trying to not thinkabout it really.
Hope everyone is having a nice weekendxxx

Hi Ladies

Sunbeam - I'm so sorry yiur having a hard time at the moment. I think our entirely justified in being teary and fragile given the circumstances. I wish there was something I could say to make ou feel better. I can't stang pg ladies who smoke either. My sister did for both of her pregnancies and never had a problem. But me on the other hand who doesn't smoke or drink has all these fertility issues. Go figure. I guess I was lucky we could aford to do the IVF route and not have to struggle.

Saffy - Money is always a stressor. With my fisrt husband we were living from pay check to pay check and still couldn't keep up. It was seriously struggle street. I hope you made up. FX for the al natural approach.


Hi to every one else. I miss being in here with you all. I'm really at a loss now. What with no appointments early in the morning. No jabbing etc... Time is certainly flying. I'm 20 weeks tomorrow.

Hi all

Not posting much as there isn't a lot to tell. We are b'ding again hoping this might be our month but I don't think so. A pregnant friend found out she is having a girl so I said I had lots of clothes for her as I don't feel I will ever need them again. DH and I did talk about relaxing the end of the year deadline and trying a bit longer but I don't think that will alter the outcome - 44 year old eggs aren't going to change!

I hope there are some BFP's here soon as this thread definitely needs a shot in the arm. Thinking of you all.

So is it possible to get pregnant straight after a m/c? I have a sneaking suspicion I might be. To be honest if I am I'm not ready to deal with it, I'll probably end up a blabbering mess if I see a BFP. I'm breaking out, I'm awfully queasy, head aches.

Worth testing? (really sick of wasting money on tests!) Or just wait it out? And for how long? I wanted a drink or two (ten) on Christmas?

Toomanyshoes: could be. It's certainly possible to fall pg the next cycle after mc; especially if it was an early mc (your body might be back on track quite quickly). As for testing, depends how you feel about the result. Would you feel better knowing or not knowing for now? Where are you in your cycle?

Saffy: Oh it's a nutty time of year no doubt. Sorry you've had a cr@ppy week. I hope you get the finance thing sorted out. It's really stressful when the numbers don't add up. I hope you can take your mind off things for a bit with a Xmas party or two. FX for your sake that AF does not show up at all and certainly not on Xmas.

Hi India's mum: that's very brave of you to offer clothes to your friend. It's hard to know how to plan isn't it? But if you do fall pg i'm sure she'll happily lend them back. (I've had clothes for my DD that have done the rounds of two other babies at least!) Good luck for this month as alway. Glad you're relaxing your deadline a bit. It eases the pressure while you decide for sure how you feel about things.

Porsche: Lovely to hear you are 20wks. Hope you are enjoying lovely baby kicks soon (if not already).

AFM: Oh why do i kid myself that doing a POAS test will stop me obsessing about being pg! It worked for about a day and then i started thinking... but what if it was just too early and I really am pregnant?!!! (This after i threw caution to the wind and had coffee and smoked salmon because i thought there was no point being careful anymore this month!). But i will NOT.TEST.AGAIN.BEFORE.NEXT.MONDAY!...i think!

Hi all
Sorry I have not been on here much but I do pop in from time to time to see the news
So sorry sunbeam for your BFN I so hoped it would be a BFP but next year hey thats the year,
saffy hope your feeling a bit better today chrsitmas and money are a BIG stresser !
Matthewsmum FX all goes well with your treatment keep going girl your BFP is around the corner I can feel it !
Alice sweet Alice so nice to see your name again even if it is only a quick one good luck in the UK ( its very snowy there at the moment )
too many shoes hope your doing ok
Indias mum thinking of you and praying your BFP is nearly here !
everyone I missed sorry !

afm well I am in the TWW but I guess I am not really hopeful as I feel that after 15mnths of TTC after my mc it looks like my body has given up and my BFP will not be coming even if I keep trying and trying so even though I am still hoping for my BFP my time surely is a running out will be 46 in April and well if no BFP by then I guess I will just give up and learn to live with this sad empty feeling !

TooManyShoes - What's happening? Did you test? I'm keen to hear if you are right and you did get pregnant the next cycle. I know it's possible.

CraftyMummy - April is still a little way off. You still have another 3 or 4 chances? I have my fingers crossed for you. Did you think about trying the acupuncturist? I had two successes with someone but they just weren't the right eggs that time.

AFM - I am so exhausted with work and events that I've fallen asleep a couple of times this cycle when we were supposed to be trying so I don't have much hope of success.

Hi ladies

I just wanted to sneak in to wish you all the merriest of christmas's and Im praying 2011 brings you all the strong BFP's that you so seriously derserve! I joined this thread 12 mths ago and they love, support, advice and friendship I have received is so truly appreciated and will never be forgotten! Saffy, Crafty, Possummagic, Sunbeam, Matthewsmum, Alice - You have all helped me thru the hardest time of my life and I am forever in debt to you for that! (sorry if I have missed anyone! eei! ) Some of you I dont know as well but thank you and I hope your Christmas wishes come true too!

You are all going thru tuff times and my heart breaks everytime i read of your dissapointments and pain as I know how much they cut me month after month. I dont post in here that often but Im always stalking waiting for your good news to arrive and always praying that its not far away. My Dh and I have been blessed and so far everything is going well, i still have that fear but slowly starting to feel "safe!"

Lots of love to you all this Christmas, you are beautiful girls that deserve so much more than what life is dishing out to you at the moment. Look after yourselves ok xx

So, I had one horrible day of PMS-like irritability last Wednesday where i was ready to bite the heads off everybody. It passed but have had lots of cramping and sore boobs. But it just felt like AF mostly and I promised myself I wouldn't test again until AF was late. Which it was. So today (CD 32) I tested again. And....

:bfp:

So, here I am, about to ride the roller coaster again. I'm praying it's third time lucky. Going to see my OB tomorrow to start medication (Clexane and progesterone) as that was the plan we set up for the next time I got pg (i've also been on aspirin while trying).

I will stay in touch and let you know how it goes. It is of course such early days that it feels uncomfortable to even imagine that I might get a baby out of this. But... it's a good start!

Praying that I am the first of another wave of BFPs in 2011.

:jawdrop:OMG!!!!

Congratulations Possum!!!!!! Im so excited I have goosebumps all over!!! :happyforyou: :happyforyou:

What a beautiful Christmas present for you and your family!!!

Sending you sticky vibes for a healthy and happy 9mths!!! Yayayyayayayaya!! :confetti::loveshower::leap:

xx

:bluecheer::cheer: CONGRATULATIONS!!:bluecheer::cheer:

Possummagic- what a beautiful christmas present for you and your DH!!! I am soo happy for you, well done I am sure this one will be a sticky bub :stickyvibesgirl:xxx

thopes- so nice to see you babe, and am glad eveything is going really well for you and your bub- can't wait to see you holding your little darling, but enjoy your pregnancy in the meantime :bellyrubs: Thanks for your lovely words, I know you know how it feels to be here, but hopefully we will all escape one day! xxx

Hi India'smum- it is hard to summon up the energy sometimes isn't it- hope you get a nice surprise anyway xx

Craftymummy-good to see you! Sorry you feel time is running out for you-I hope there is still a bfp for you in the new year, I know how much you want it babe xxx

Toomanyshoes- what happened? Did you test?

AFM-AF arrived today-:wall: say no more!

Saffy: Thanks Saffy. You have been so lovely and supportive over the time I've been posting. So bummed for you about Bl00dy AF! I hope she clears out by Christmas.
T-Hopes: You too! Thanks hun!

Possum Magic - that's really exciting sweetie. I am so pleased for you, what a great Christmas present. I'm keen to hear how you go with the Clexane and progesterone. I am to follow something similar if I get pregnant again.

Saffy - Damn that AF. Mine is approaching, I can feel it.

Congrats Possum ! wow I pray this is the start of more BFPs for the rest of us !

T Hopes thanks for the kind words it means alot to know we do each other good !

Saffy I too pray I get a BFP again but it looks like maybe my time is up but will keep on trying !

Happy Chrsitmas to everyone kids on hols now so busy busy and well day 28 for me so wonder if AF is around the corner or is it another long long cycle ??????? will keep you posted

possum - :hug: that's such great news keeping everything crossed for a healthy uneventful 9 months! So excited for you, what a wonderful Christmas present.

Merry Christmas to everyone else, I hope you all get your BFP's very soon! Come on Santa!

AFM - it was a BFN, probably just a funny cycle because of the m/c. I haven't been doing the best, avoiding BB a lot.

India's mum: Thanks hun, hope you are wrong about AF being on the way for you.
Craftymummy: Thank you. Hope you and your kids are having fun and enjoying the holiday.
Toomanyshoes: Thank you. Sorry about the BFN and sorry you are not doing well. It is a really rough journey at times. I hope the new year brings you some better news.

Possum magic - congratulations! I am so very happy for you. Wishing you healthy and happy pregnancy, and as stress-free as you can manage.

Ummm well today is day 30 and I haven't tested for the first time in months I can't be ars*d to go out and waste more money on tests, So now the waiting begins to see if AF turns up or I get to test next week when I will be a week late, so there it is I go into the festive season awaiting AF and wondering is she coming or not LOL feels good not to give a damn for once !!!!

Possum hope your getting used to your news now !

everyone else enjoy the festive season and may we all get BFPs in 20011

Hi ladies. It is sad to see so many still in here but I am so happy to hear Possums good news and wish you all lots of :pink-babydust::bluedust: and :stickyvibesgirl::stickyvibesboy:

AFM- I got a call today... my doc said merry Xmas and yoiur result is a :bfp: I am still in so much shock :p

Congratulations ! Damphrye wow thats 2 BFPs this week it normally comes in 3s wonder who will be number 3 ?????????

afm no Af feel a bit sick and got a bad headache but its so damn hot here in Perth and humid too so I guess thats why I feel crap !

Be nice if I was number 3 but thats just wishful thinking !!!!:D

Damprye: OMG! :leap: Sticky sticky vibes! What a lovey surprise. Were you trying again or was it a happy accident (if that's not a rude question!)

Craftymummy: Brave woman. The great unknown. Here's to lucky number 3!

Luna: Thanks! Nice to see your name. I hope your recovery is going well?

AF arrived so no suprise there then ! Just don't have it in me anymore this empty feeling is going to be with me the rest of my life !!!

Guess I may as well give it 4 more months until I am 46 then give in gracefully !!!!

Damprye: That's wonderful news! 2011 is going to be a great year for you.

Craftymummy - I don't think you have to give up until YOU are ready to. While it didn't work out, my Mum fell pregnant at 50. Fingers crossed that it happens soon for you (cause I know you will be thinking "I don't want to have to wait THAT long")

Congratulations Dampyre and Possum Magic! HURRAH!!!

Merry Christmas lovely ladies, hope we all get our longed for BFP's very soon and lots of sticky vibes to those that already got them!

Come on Santa! We need lots of Christmas miracles in here!

:hug:

hi everyone, possummagic & damprye-Congratulations!!!t-hopes-right back at you!..sorry to the ones that have had af turn up..wishing you all a manageable christmas

A very happy accident since after over a year of trying I had given up :D and thank you everyone :hugs:

Merry Christmas all!

I tested this morning as I got to day 30 with no Af but it was BFN. Not really surprised as I don't feel pregnant but the last 3 cycles came on day 27 so I don't know why this one is different. Today is the due date of my first loss. He/she would have been a year old now. I don't feel too bad though. At least I can have a few champagnes today.

India's Mum- For me AF usually comes cd19 so I tested constantly but didn't get my + blood test until cd35 so there is still hope for you yet :)

Thanks Damprye, wasn't to be though. AF arrived day 31.

hi everyone, india's mum-sorry it was a one liner,has af showed herself yet?

sorry india's mum,must of posted at same time

Hi all
sorry af turned up indias mum guess we have to move onto the next cycle I am just a few days ahead of you !

hope you all had a good christmas and heres hoping 2011 has a few more bfps for all of us in here feels a bit lonely in here atm everyone seems to be moving on to pastures new lucky them !

well best to just be positive and keep on trying then we can move over too with our own bfps !!!!