LT TTC and Assisted Conception Apr-May 2011

Hey Ladies,

Wow! I meant to post the other day (even wrote half of it) and then fell short of time at work (so going to get pulled up on internet usage soon!!) … I just logged on and you ladies have been busy!

If I get confused with where anyone is up to… apologies in advance!

Teriae - That's tuff :(. Whenever I had my FS appointment (in separate rooms opposite the IVF side where I would see the nurses) I always found it hard to see all the preggie bellies and new mums in reception. I used to just sit there and dream that one day it would be me... Sending you some :goodluck: vibes that it won't be long before you are there.

Did you ring your clinic about the OPK this morning? Hopefully you have been given the green light to proceed with the FET and have a date booked – exciting stuff !

Total bummer about the puppy situation…. So frustrating when you are relying on someone and they stuff you around - arrgghh. I hope it works out for you and you get your little puppy as originally promised!

MelissaI – Who would have thought that anyone would be excited about jabbing oneself everyday, he, he! Sounds so strange but I have been there too . Yippee, for being able to start another cycle soon!

Saffy - Ha, ha - I can so sympathise with you... I am no good at holding either :lol:! Yay - it will be great to have a 2ww buddy! I hope the acupuncture does the trick for your lining and it gets nice and thick so your little one can snuggle in tight! I’m not quite at ovulating stage yet but I am not sure if my clinic even uses OPK? So far, I am just having BT’s… I hope that 2nd line gets darker for you soon. Glad to hear you are feeling better (UTI’s are horrible).

That is so slack of your old clinic to do that…. I was getting frustrated just reading about it! I hope it has now been sorted out for you… so bad!


Loops - Thx :hug:. So glad to hear that you have been having a good time of late (except for the funeral of course). Good on hubby for giving the acupuncture a go! My DH was the same and is a scaredy cat of needles but ended up falling asleep every time, ha, ha!

So happy for you that you have booked your IVF dates for September!!! I know I always feel better when I have plan in place :dance:. It’s good that you know your IVF nurses were willing to do a BT with a natural BFP... I knew they would be cool :).


happybaby - Yay for starting another cycle and sorry to hear about the mc :hugs:. It was always the waiting in-between cycles that I found hard. Patience is something I am not good at. I hope we are 2ww'ing together as well…. the more the merrier!
So glad to hear that your lining decided to thicken up on time – yay!! I haven’t heard about Raspberry leaf tea but will have to remember it as my last FET my lining was on the thin side and I needed estrogen patches to help thicken it up. Good Luck :goodluck: for the egg collection on Thursday… I hope you have lots of lovely matured just right eggs collected!



N2L - Happy B'day for the 17th also!!! I hope you are feeling a little better now :hug:..


AFM – Nothing too exciting to report… I had my day 10 BT on Tuesday, 21 and have another BT booked in for Thursday, 23. Apparently, my estrogen was low at 204 so still early in my cycle and no huge indication of ovulation yet. Hopefully, tomorrow’s result will be more positive!

Saffy ~ Yea the clinic supplied me with my OPK. I cant remember what the brand is though.. The nurse said if you are 2nd guessing it then it must be it, like when i thought it was really close but wasnt sure, she said well if its close enough for you to think maybe..then it would be. I'm not quite ready to give up on them...might be different if we were having a baby...but i need something to shower in love and attention, and while we havent got a baby i was keen on the puppy...but yea, realising i shouldnt get my hopes up.
Rest up with your UTI, no need me telling you all the good things you should do, cause i'm sure you know them all ;)

Coral ~ DH said the same thing, 'dont worry baby you will be one of them soon' my reply 'yea i cant wait to rub all there noses in it!' (i was still a bit angry =( I dont really mean it). Heres to you ovulating soon!

So I called the FS =) she said sounds like yesterday was a +ve, so FET has been orgaised for Monday. Haven't got a time yet, but its going to happen =)

:crying:I think my cycle is being cancelled, I haven't had a pos OPK and now i've got no line at all, the nurse thinks we might have missed my O, just had a blood test to confirm.
i cannot believe my body is doing this, what the **** is wrong with me??
I've been crying all morning, I'm so sick of the constant disappointments.

Saffy, I'm so sorry that you are going through this torture, fingers crossed for you that the BT results come back good. I have had nurses and one Dr say that they don't really rate the opk's reliability too highly.
(Sorry Teire, I'm not suggesting that they don't work either) - I bet Mon can't come around soon enough for you

Oh saffy, so sorry darling. Big hugs to you, hope you are ok??
Cancelled cycles are so dissapointing.:hug: i hope it still turns out alright??
Hope you feel better soon.

Oh no Saffy :hug:.. I'm really sorry to hear that you may have missed your 'O' date :(.

:pray:'ing that your BT brings some surprise good news and you can continue on with your FET. I don't blame you for being totally devastated... what a horrible situation to be in. I can only imagine how hard it would be to have a cycle cancelled on you when you have geared yourself up for it - it's not fair :hug:.

Just had a call from clinic Re: BT this morning and estrogen moved only slightly to 224 so another BT booked in for Saturday morning....

I have a long cycle (31 days) so I guess all is on track as I am only day 12 today and pre DS used to ovulate around day 21/22.



PS: Still thinking of you Saffy and I hope you are feeling a little better :hug:

Saff ~ (((GBH))), very disappointed for you :comfort: May not be much of a help but if it were me -I'd go have a night out drinking drown my sorrows and try to look forward to the next month - keep busy with friends. You'd want to be at your prime when you do have it so perhaps ather than doing it now and hoping for the best you would in fact be best to wait for next month. Can you start OPKs earlier next time? xx

Tei ~ I think if you start doing OPKs early enough and then do everyday you should be able to see the test line getting darker and darker and when it is the same colour as the control that is the most fertile. But even after the line lightens again I think you can still be fertile but just not as much. Hope that makes sense. I'm now getting the cheaper Lullay conception ones online as you get a whole heap for cheap, then you can do it each day. Dont worry my DH used to be like that but now I think he is just that little bit more committed because we have been wanting this for so long now and being male factor I think he feels like its his fault. Accupuncture can tingle when they 1st go in but I think once you relax you dont even realise they are there. All the best for Monday, FX'd!

Melissa ~ thanks for the info on the Colorado protocol. I think my tests came back clear but I may ask my FS about that next time because my embies dont seem to want to stick either. Hope that you doing the colorado protocol is the ticket for you hun!

Coral ~ thanks hun. Exciting your well on the way through your IVF cycle though, :goodluck::crossfingers:

Hi all :pink-babydust::stickyvibesboy:

thank you so much girls you are the greatest. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't have you girls to sook to.
Well, my cycle is officially over, I knew before they rang as I had checked my results on the computer at work, so was prepared.
The only saving grace is that we dtd the night I may have o'd so I guess theres a slight chance still but not holding out too much hope.
I feel a bit better but struggled at work yesterday and cried last night when I got home, DH is away too which doesn't help.

Good luck everyone with your cycles, I will be checking for your bfps in a couple of weeks!!

Saffy, that just sucks :(

I am really sorry....

Take care xxx

I'm sorry Saffy, so hard to gear yourself up for a cycle and then have such a let down. Be good to yourself :hug:

Coral, GL for BT tomorrow.

Teire, only 3 more days.... ;)

Loops, wonderful to hear that you have a new cycle set up to go. Let's hope the taxman is kind in his refund to help with your next cycle. Don't forget that you can claim 20% of your Out of Pocket expenses once you reach a certain threshhold. I am waaaaay over the OOP threshhold this year with my medical so can't do my return fast enough!

AFM - am still trying to weigh up the pros and cons of going through it all again. I feel like I need to get more information re clotting issues but don't know where to turn. FS does not appear to be overly concerned and think that 12 weeks of clexane will assist, but I am worried about what happens after that time. (I think too he is starting to think I am a bit of a freaky stress head!:redface:)
My mum died of a cerebral aneaurism when she was 36. She would have had the same gene defect as me (as I have a double whammy of having a dodgy gene from each parent) and I am terrified that pregnancy will put too much stress on my body. I feel like I need to understand a bit more before I can go on to make a decision as to push forward. Aaaaargh, as if this wasn't hard enough already!!!!!!!
Sorry for tmi, but I am changing my mind about 30 times a day as to what to do and just need to vent a bit:rolleyes:!!

Hi to everyone else :hello:

Saffy ~ NOOO!!!! oh hunny *biggest hugs in the world* That sucks! So disapointing for you. =(. sorry I cant offer anything else to help.

Tantee ~ all I ever hear about OPK is people going what does this mean? is it +ve? I dont think i've actually heard of someone going, POAS and the OPK was deff positive and never questioned. so when i got it on my first one ever thats one of the reasons I questioned it so much, was cause I wasn't expecting it to work! What a big decision you have to make. Take your time. Dont rush either way and go with whatever makes you feel more comfortable. best of luck with it! I don't know much about clotting issues when conceiving etc.. so sorry I dont have more to offer.

Coral ~ Hope your bloods have improved =)

Loops ~ Yea my FS gave me a little graph diagram thing about what the OPK's test and how they work. they test LH levels in your urine, which start to rise and peak the day before you ovulate, and then drop off. so you can get a line at anystage while its rising and droping, but the peak is what gives you the time of ovulation. It's all my hubby's fault that we are doing IVF! but he hasnt gotten to the guilty phase yet...not that I want him to!

Hi Jayejaye Melissa N2L HappyBaby (did I miss anyone?)

AFM ~ I had a little bit of a freak out yesterday. I only realised it was Friday and that the clinic was meant to call me to let me know what time on Monday to be there, at 5.30. by time I found their number and went oh ****! it was too late and they were closed. So I was worried I wouldnt get to t/f on Monday cause I missed the time, (us living 2 hrs away as well doesnt help). Fortuantly I phoned the afterhrs emergency number and she didnt mind even though it probably wasnt an emergency. but said it would happen at 1230. but she would also call me Monday morning to confirm it when she is looking at the actual book in the office, not her on call sheet. So its all good. Soon I will be going crazy in that damn TWW!!

Morning I hope the weekend is going well. I've been awake for ages just going over things in my mind. Not just about ttc as this cycle is just one thing that is going on in my life right now but then maybe it's good to have other things to think/stress about.

I'm scheduled for the transfer on Tuesday. My nurse rang to say all 7 eggs had fertilised. We only ever get 2 embryos that make it to 5/6 days so that's all I'm expecting.

Saffy I'm so sorry to hear about your cycle being cancelled. I've only ever had medicated FET. My FS thought this was a good idea because of my irregular cycles. I hope your DH is back soon.

Tantee You poor thing with so much to worry about. I can understand your reluctance to start ttc while you don't have any answers. I hope you get them soon.

Teirae Good luck for your transfer on Monday and see you in the TWW.

Hi to everyone else. Enjoy the rest of the weekend

xxHB

I am going to be pregnant today!
Our twins are going to be put inside me and I am going to be pregnant!!
They are going to stick so tight and hold on and grow and I will have my babies!!!!
Whoever out of: XT RR JG or OY wants to join us I can't wait to feel you and meet you and get to know you. I love you all so much already and I can't wait to show you!!!


TODAY I AM GOING TO GET PREGNANT!!!

happybaby ~ I hope things have calmed down for you. Hope some things make more sense and your not to stressed *hugs* We are here if you need to talk about anything or vent =) All the best tomorrow and I will see you on the other side =)

Good Luck for today Teirae - I hope your little ones snuggle in tightly.

Teirae - Sending you lots and lots of :pink-babydust: and :stickyvibesboy:!!

GOOD LUCK for today hun, oxxo

happybaby - Great news about all seven of your embryo's fertilising - yay!!! :crossfingers: that you get a nice surprise and have the majority reach blastocyst stage. So exciting... transfer tomorrow! Hope you are feeling a little better about things (life can be so overwhelming at times :hug:).

tantee: Oh tantee... I'm sorry to hear that you are facing such a difficult situation. I don't know anything about clotting issues personally but will mention it to one of my FS nurses next time I'm in to see them - they might know of a good information source I could pass onto you. ART is hard enough to do on it's own without added complexities... I hope you are able to find the information you need soon so you can make a decision that you are comfortable and at peace with :hug:.

Loops - Has DH had an acupuncture yet? I bet he ends up loving it, he, he!

Saffy - So sorry to hear that the BT confirmed missed ovulation :hug:. Like you said... at least you managed to DTD at the right time.... small consolation but it is better than nothing. :pray:'ing for a natural miracle for you!

Hello to all the other lovely ladies (MelissaI, N2L & Jayejaye.. sorry if I missed anyone)

AFM - Had a BT on Saturday (estrogen rose to 313) and another one this morning... I think today's BT will confirm ovulation has occurred as I had pains on Saturday night and noticeable CM (sorry for TMI). Just waiting on the phone call from nurse this arvo to hopefully :pray: book in a transfer date - yay!! Othewise, another BT tomorrow or Wednesday...

Teirae - sending you the stickiest of :stickyvibesboy: for your little twinnies and YAY for today being the day you get preggers!

Saffy - big :hug: to you hun. That sucks. Were you on a natural FET? Hoping you are feeling a bit happier now and your DH is home to give you lots of cuddles.

Happybaby and Coral - woohoo for your transfers being so close. Wow, the 2ww thread is gonna be a busy place soon. Good luck girls :pray:

Tantee - God what a dilemma for you, chick :hug:. I don't know huge amounts about treating clotting disorders in pregnancy but I do know that if this cycle is successful for us, I will be on aspirin until week 34, going by colorado so 12 weeks on Clexane doesn't seem that long. I am guessing you will have seen a dr about your dodgy genes - would they be able to point you in the right direction? Sucks that your FS is so unconcerned about it - I have found the same with mine, she doesn't seem to want to relinquish any control or accept that talking to an expert in that particular field is a good thing and by no means, an admission that she doesn't know the best thing to do. Frustrating. Even if the gene dr can reassure you that you will be safe would be a step in the right direction?

AFM I am having a little seesaw myself, wondering what in hell we are doing going ahead with this cycle. So, my sister and I finally have a diagnosis for our bleeding problem (hypodysfibrinogenaemia), so basically if we do get pregnant, instead of an implantation bleed, we kinda have an implantation mini haemorrhage which makes it very difficult for the poor little embie to attach properly. And it keeps bleeding, meaning a v high rate of miscarriage. My sister is 6 weeks pg now, she has already had one blood transfusion and our haematologist is expecting that she will need another one before too long. Combine bleeding problem with being on aspirin for high ana which MIGHT cause clotting = more bleeding. It sucks. Especially googling it and reading the odd article that crops up because someone has managed a successful pregnancy. This SUCKS. ART is hard enough without this $h!t.
On a brighter note, I had my first jab this morning. While I have been chowing down on plenty of chocolate to make sure there are plenty of nice rolls for the needle to go into, it was real ouchy one. And the piddling little amount of Buserelin hardly seemed worth the ouch factor!!!! Ah well, all for a good cause :)