Oneday ~ I know exactly how you feel so please dont say sorry - here for each other.

Frugal ~ yes Ive always done them in the belly. I found that some of them hurt and others didnt, I think it depended where on the belly I did them, maybe if near fat its better - not too sure but I hope the next one is easier for you.

Saffy, Alice and Kristine ~ thanks ladies. Alice ~ hope you're feeling a bit happier.

Hi to everyone else and wishing you all the best

AFM ~ 99.95% sure its a BFN once more - More AF headaches, more bleeding and a temp as low as 65.9. It started creeping down from 37 a couple of days ago. thats about all I can say
Thanks again for your support - would not get through any of this without such kind and thoughtful people.