LT TTC and Assisted Conception Feb-Mar 2012

Thanks Vic :) I don't know why I bother looking at houses. We live in a shoebox, so really need a bigger house, but the problem with me is that I am so bloody fussy! I wish I wasn't :( The house was lovely from the outside, so so on the inside, and considering the Melbourne market ATM, the guy is asking far too much (but I had to have a look for myself why he was asking so much). Ideally, I need to build. It's just that the block of land where we live is, is impossible to get....back to the internet :wall:

Miss B - hope you like the house tonight!! FX Maybe you compromise and renovate a house to suit?? I'm so glad the two lines are still there! I'm feeling good about this one for you. xxx

Vic - hope you're feeling okay now - such a pain that your body is reacting that way, and I am glad you are able to get right into the next cycle... it's awful when it feels like time is ticking away, and it's nice to get into it :hug:

Keta - good luck! I hope the trigger doesn't cause too much pain for the rest of today. Last time I didn't get a reaction from the trigger so I hope it's the same tonight for me!! make sure DH looks after you sweetheart!

Liseyt - they will grow and before you know it you'll be ready to go, and it will all happen so fast then.... and THEN.... then you have the LONG TWW....

hope everyone else is well :hello: although it's hard to keep up, it really is COOL/GREAT/AWESOME... to know that there are so many of us in a similar position at the moment. I really appreciate all your updates and finding out where things are at.

AFM
thanks for all the :hug:s guys - I am still not well today, but feeling like it may get better by tomorrow.... YKWIM...
anyway.... trigger is tonight!!! 7.40pm..... which is great... except that I am going out for dinner with some women from a new job - i'll be teaching some online units through Monash University... so I have put an alarm on my phone for 7.30pm and will go off to the loo after that... just weird to be stabbing in a restaurant! omg... gunna feel like a druggie!

That means OPU is thursday (8.40am) and ET is Saturday. Then officially PUPO! can you please update me Vic ;)

I text DH to update him, and told him that unless he could get home by 5pm tonight for a quickie BD he was going to have to figure his portion out himself, as I would be out late ;)
His reply was "I am sure I can manage if I am not home by 5, was a single man for tooooo many years! xxx" :rofl:
Sorry, but I had to share as it amused me so much!

Myturn, the trigger shot is just like the oralutran, so should be nice and easy. Oooh, I've just noticed you would have had it already!! Yeepee! Now we patiently eait for EPU :pray:

Amy, GL for your EPU tomorrow hunni!!!! Will have everything crossed for you :crossfingers::goodluck:

Just a quickie update ladies, the line is definitely getting stronger. I will now leave it till either Thursday night or Friday morning. Feeling pretty tired and have an odd taste in my mouth (wouldn't say it's metallic :dunno:). Also been very gassy/windy, belly is still inflated :o

Miss B - I am getting so excited for you (sitting here grinning stupidly to myself!). Can't wait for you to officially kick off the BFP ball rolling.

Myturn - Hope your trigger went well. I think my reaction is more just an accumulation of the puregon, the trigger and just the 'thank god its finally coming to an end'. Although I started progesterone today so I guess I won't be forgetting I'm in a tww too quickly.

:happydance: just quietly, I'm so freakin excited for you MissB! ;)

Thanks Keta and ReeRee! Just wish my DF was a bit more excited, the poor thing says he won't be excited till we get the BT done. I think he's in denial! Still freaking out that after 12 pee stick test it might still be a false positive :rolleyes:

Sneaking in to wish Miss B all the sticky vibes in the world :D.

Sneaking in too to wish MissB all the luck in the world for a lovely sticky BFP xx

And best wishes to all in your coming Epu, ETs and BTs xx

Myturn and Amy goodluck for your EPU this week, so excited you guys are on the next step.

Vic - such a good job with the list thank you so much for doing it it helps so much.
I hope you are doing ok with everything xo

Missb- well what can I say...I know yiiipppeee I am sooo excited for you and can't wait for your bt results, I understand DH mine will be the same as well I think. I do hope lots more of us can join you soon with bfp's cross fingers

To everyone I have missed I hope the snorting, jabbing and all other yucky stuff that has be done for our hopeful bfp's is going well

AFM - in the last week of tww and am silently going insane, I just want to know. I have 2 little kittens and they persist in walking across my chest to cuddle when I am laying in bed, my boobs are sooo sore I actually had to move their feet tonight off it lol. Thought I might share the humor of it do you can all have a laugh at my expense cause DH thinks its hilarious, don't know what the kittens are going to do if I get pregnant and boobs get worse they might get in lots of trouble I think.
Other than that I am good keeping myself busy with work and my assignment for class presentation Friday urgh I hate presentations.

Night all stickies to all you lovely ladies

Good luck with the house hunting missb

Myturn - hope you get better soon hunny thinking if you. Oh and your post about DH cracked me up, it never seems to be a problem for them if we aren't there lol.

Hello my lovelies!!!

Thanks for all your lovely well wishes for tomorrow, am starting to get very excited!!! :)

Miss B - Im so happy for you babe!!!! Sounds like you have got yourself a sticky little embie!!!!

Hi to everyone else! I will come back and do persies when im not so tired. Had end of month at work tonight which was a bit of a nightmare because we were SO BUSY all day!!! Ive got tomorrow, thurs and Fri off and plan to sit on my butt and do nothing but watch the O.C. :lol: DH's flight comes in early Thursday morning so hopefully I am feeling better and can go and collect him. Not sure who it was that was asking about the Orgalutran and the massive boobs? Mine have been SO SORE since starting on that and they are massive!!!! I have to admit that is the only part I am dreading for when I am finally pregnant, im am so top heavy as it is so im going to look ridic!!! DH is most upset he is away at work and isnt getting to stare at them hahaha. So leaving my house at 7am tomorrow morning to get through all the peak hour traffic and get to the clinic for 8.30am. My mum is taking me up and back, will be staying at my parents house tomorrow night but I will jump on my phone and update.

Much love xxx

hello again. i am still on stupid night duty, BOO!

Amy- all the best for later this morning, hope they get a good haul and that soon you will be on the TWW list or even better the BFP list

speaking of BFP's- MissB- you are looking like being the first one on that list. although I do understand that DH is being reserved.

Myturn- hope trigger went well (and that you didnt feel like too much of a junkie) and good luck for EPU tomorrow

kerbear- Im not on orgal this time, so boobs not sore, but when I was last time they were MASSIVE and soooo sore I was sleeping in a bra. DH was not allowed near them, although he did admire from afar. I am freaking about them If (no, when) I fall pregnant cause I already have a G cup... any bigger and I might topple over!!!

Vic- hope you're feeling better and that those nasty AF pains get lost.

Thanks for all you lovely comments

AFM- have US at 9:40am today and DH is away for work, so have asked a friend to come with me, for moral support. DH has been super cute since 1st US, talking to my belly and telling my follies to grow and being all positive it's going to all work out. I ofcourse am freaking out, although don't know if it's purely a mind game- But have been hving cramps and peeing like a racehorse since 2nd US hoping that means they re getting bigger. will let you know how i go xx

hope you are all sleeping well xxx

Omg ... So sick :( but at least it will be a good excuse for why I'm taking the rest of the week off work! (always the optimist!)

Trigger was fine - just weird to be sitting in the loo waiting for the clock to flip to 7.40 exactly..... :)
So now just waiting for EPU tomorrow and transfer of saturday.... Then I'll be able to join you lovelies in the craziness of the TWW....

I can't think clear but GL to everyone wherever you are xxxxx

Oh myturn, sucks that you are so sick while doing this as well, at least you are off work and can rest.
Good luck with EPU, rest up babe xo

Hello ladies,

Maruschke and BDT, thanks so much for popping in ladies to wish my embie sticky vibes! You are awesome :grouphug:

Amy, thinking of you today huuni, I hope they get lots of good eggies :crossfingers: Just remember to rest up afterwards xox

Kerbear, the sore boobies are such a pain! A few days ago in the shower it actually hurt when the water was pounding on the poor poppets. Your kittens sound so cute, they say animals can sense when something is going on.....The second half of the 2WW is the hardest I think! Will you do a sneaky test? FX for a nice second line for you hun :pray:

Liseyt, you're probably about to go in for your u/s, good luck hun!!! Please let there be lots of nice follies :pray:

Myturn, can't wait to hear all about your EPU tomorrow hun. Praying like crazy you'll get a great number of eggies :pray:

Hello to Vic, n2l, Janie, Jane, Keta, Kashby, Mia, Kimbe, and anyone else I missed!

AFM, no more testing for me. I've decided to wait till the BT now. Waaaaaaay too much time obsessing on how the line is or isn't getting stronger. On another topic, I went to put the crinone gel last night and normally when I do it I hear this 'pop' but I didn't last night so I was worried I didn't put it in correcly, but when I squeezed the fat end there was nothingin there :dunno: I think it went in....Anyway, have a lovely day everyone and thanks so much again for all your well wishes and crossing your fingers for a sticky embie and for my lovely visitors wishing me well too :grouphug:

b xoxox

Congrats miss b x

Joeve, thanks hunni but we'll have to wait till Friday in case I'm seeing things on the pee sticks! lol. I love your sig hun, 'egg missing in action'! Those naughty swimmers ;) Very excited for your cycle this month (OMG it's Feb already!). My SIL did clomid and she conceived on 2nd or 3rd cycle from memory, and on the cycle she conceived, she released 2 eggies. Lucky she didn't end up with twins!! I'll have everything crossed for you hun, but those swimmers better behave themselves! xox

Missb I am one of those compulsive poas people lol, I did one yesterday morning and it can up faint, then I went back the the one from day before where it didn't come up only to see it did so trigger wasn't quite gone, it is today but cause its definately negative so now I am going to try and stay away from them until the weekend cause I am still a week away from knowing.
I have hit the point I always do at one week in and am starting to struggle and finding myself getting upset at the thought of it being negative as i found the side effects very hard on me from drugs and am scared about the next cycle if we have to do one cause the meds are being increased.
I just keep praying we won't have to do one.
Are you getting a little excited ;-) cause I am for you, woohoo stickystickysticky vibes

Quick question Miss.B.. What DPO did you first test... I did one on 10DPO and 11DPO but haven't tested this morning.. Mine were BFN's.. I still have some hope though..

Wow it is so busy in here! You don't post for a couple of days and then it becomes so hard to catch up! I promise I will catch up on where everyone is at from this post on.

Not much happening here - obsessing over every twinge, the fact that my BBs have started feeling sore and heavy (could just be the pessaries - only on 400mg this time though), and burping (I had terrible reflux all the way through my DD's pregnancy). Argh! I hate the TWW - I know that logically it is too early to really be able to tell anything, but it doesn't stop me reading in to everything. I am the opposite to most others in the fact that I feel like I am jinxing myself if I POAS - I did POAS on my BFN cycle, and then I didn't on the cycle that got a BFP (at least not until I got the phone call). So I have it in my mind that I shouldn't POAS - oh boy I think I am going NUTS!

LOL you ladies are making me laugh with all the POAS obsessing Miss B, Kerbear and Janie. I know I'll be the same as you when it comes to the TWW for me! I'm glad I'm not the only one LOL :goodluck: to you all :crossfingers: we'll have a few BFP's in here soon!

Amy - :hug: I hope it all goes well for you today!

Liseyt - I hope your U/S goes well and you get heaps of good sized follies :crossfingers:

Myturn - I'll be waiting to hear how you go tomorrow so keep us informed! ;) such a stalker LOL

Hello to Vic, n2l, Jane, Keta, Kashby, Kimbe, and anyone else I missed :grouphug:

AFM - going well with the synorel, no side affects as far as I can tell. Any of you ladies that have had headaches on it, how long did it take before you got side affects? I'm only on it day 2 so maybe my body hasnt reacted yet!
SOOO hard to keep up but I love reading all the posts!

Hi ladies,

It is time for me to rejoing this thread. We are starting our IVF round, with me starting Gonal f injections tonight. I have no idea where anyone is in their cycle, it is really busy in here! Best of luck to everyone

1 February 2012

Waiting for EPU/O/IUI or just something to happen!

RhiChiChi CD
Kimbe - CD8 US 03.02.12
Saffy - CD8
Amy_jellybean CD14 EPU 01.02.12
Myturn - CD19 EPU 01.02.12
Liseyt - CD21 EPU possibly 03.02.12
Kashby - CD23
Mia01 - CD23
Vic261 - FS Appt 02.02.12

Waiting for Transfer


Hanging out in the TWW

Miss.B - CD24 11 days post transfer 1 x 2 day embryo BT 03.02.12
Kerbear - CD21 IUI 24.01.12
Janie71 - CD22 4 day post transfer 1 x day 2 embryo BT 10.01.12
Missren - CD 3 day post transfer 1 x day 2 embryo BT 13.02.12
Keta - CD22 BT 14.02.12
Blossom73 - CD 4 day post transfer 1 x day 4 embryo

Hi Girls, just a real fly in post. Work is crazily busy and its almost knock off time and I have to finish up a whole stack as I wont be in tomorrow due to flying over to see my FS.

Amy and Myturn - Good luck with your EPU's today. We are all quietly stalking you all :) :) :) Hope you all had good number and are good to go for transfers.

Good luck to everyone else. Will be offline tomorrow, so feel free to update the list. I know Amy and Myturn will want to jump into the waiting to transfer section :)

Hi ladies,

Kerbear, this POAS-ing is seriously doing my head in, I never thought I'd get so obsessed with it! In my very first cycle I didn't test at all, just got the call. In my second I tested from day 11 post transfer, and then kept testing for 3 days in the row (once a day mind you, this time it's like 3 times a day!). I'm glad I tested early this cycle b/c I could definitely see the trigger shot on my first test, then 2 days later it was blank so I knew it was gone. I would wait till the weekend hun, or at least 5 days before your BT at the earliest.

Lilmisshaveachat, I got a line 8 days post transfer (so that would be 8 dpo?) but in my last cycle it was on day 11 post transfer that I got the faintest of faint lines, I'm talking about you had to really quint your eyes to see it, and I had to convince DF it was there as he couldn't see it. Wait a couple of days hun before doing another test, sometimes it's 13 dpo when you get a faint line. GL sweetie!

Ooooh myturn, for some reason I thought your EPU was tomorrow! Sorry hun, I hope it all went well for you :pray:

Amy, I hope you EPU went well too, can't wait to hear all about it!

RhiChiChi, hello hun and wishing you all the very best with this cycle!!

Mia, just wait till you start peeping on a stick every time you have to pee! lol

Vic, all the very best with your FS app. hunni, fingers crossed for a good game plan! :crossfingers:

Janie, I can understand not testing hun, I wish I was one of those patient people who didn't have to know everything all the time! FX for you hun :crossfingers:

Hang in there ladies, wishing everyone a nice BFP at the end of all this torture!

b xoxo

Hi girls, egg p/u went well, we got 9 eggs :) I have to call at 2.30 wa time tomorrow to see if any have fertilised, fingers crossed. Tummy is VERY sore this time :-( not sure what date my transfer will be but my pregnancy blood test is wed 15th feb - the day after valentines day and the day before DH comes home from work :( I'm just going to tell him that I have the bt on that day but won't get the results until the day he gets home.... Of course I will but it will be nice to collect him from the airport and give him the good news, if it's bad news I'll tell him once we r home from the airport.

On my phone so can't write much but will get on my laptop tomorrow for Persies xxx

Yeepee Amy, great result!! I have a good feeling about this cycle gun, number 9 is my fave number (haha it's my birthday!)! GL tomorrow hun, I hope you'll get lots of strong, fertilized embies :crossfingers:

Okay...

Firstly, I have to apologise for going AWOL for the past week or so. After getting AF, I just needed to absence myself from all things IVF to clear my head a little. As it was I didn't even go for my blood test until the day before yesterday (when AF had pretty much finished). I just couldn't be bothered. I already knew the outcome :(
Please don't take this the wrong way, but sometimes it is hard to face the optimism and excitement in this thread when I no longer feel optimistic or excited about the process. That's not to say I don't feel happy for anyone who is successful or who has little wins along the way because I do. It's just hard not to post things like 'don't get your hopes up' sometimes. And I don't want to post that and drag anyone down to my level of bitterness and pessimism iykwim.

Anyway, I have pretty much resigned myself to the fact that I am going to be one of the unlucky 40 per cent that no one talks about. Of course, we still have two embies left but it's hard to see how/why they would stick when the others haven't. After that, it seems pointless spending more money on another stim when nothing has come of the $50,000 we have spent so far.

I have an appointment with the FS on Feb 6 so I will see what she says....sigh...

Anyway, sorry for the downer. I didnt mean to rant, just explain my absence. Thank you to everyone who posted me lovely messages of support, and to those of you who noticed I was 'missing' from the thread. It was really touching :)

In the meantime... I am ridiculously behind where everyone is but I will try to catch up over the next couple of days...but..

Miss B - :leap: I am so, so happy for you!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!

To everyone else, hope you are all doing well and I look forward to catching up with where you are at very soon!

Take care all x

One more question Miss.B..

DPO as I know it, is counted from day of EPU not TF.. What day embie did you have??

xo

N2L- You have nothing to explain- I totally get it and I have the same reason for dropping in and out. As happy as I am for others because I know that everyone in here has fought their own battle, it is still a kick in the guts each time I am not the one with the good news. We have a transfer scheduled for next month which will be our 7th and it is just gets harder and harder. I totally relate to not feeling particularly optimistic. I have no experience with anything other than failure and am definitely starting to question whether this is ever going to happen for me. My cousin recently announced her pregnancy- achieved on her 11th transfer and while I am happy for her and recognise that she has gone through quite a few more cycles than I have, I was still upset for myself. I felt like a total cow for feeling that way, but what do you do?

Thinking of you and sending much love,

M. x

N2l - so nice to hear from you and totally understand, i can only imagine how you feel after all the money, time and side effects on your body from all your goes.
I am not going to say it will happen one day cause no one can promise that, I know DH and I have allocated how much money we will spend and u am so scared for the day I may have to accept its over if things don't work out.
All I can say to you is we are here for any kind if venting good or bad and for you to pop in and out when you have the strong days to read the posts.
Thinking of you so much at the moment and we have missed you big hugs xo

umm... message has got confused somewhere.... my EPU is on for tomorrow morning :) thanks for asking though :) I'll definitely be in here sometime tomorrow (albiet a little bit drugged and groggy from my cold I imagine!)

feeling like my ovaries are going to explode... and I guess with 6 - 7 follicles at about 2cm diameter, it is a lot of extra pressure on the surrounding organs.... feel like I'm going to the loo every hour... and I'm SURE some people at work think I'm UTD already.... little do they know... :( just wish I could keep my mouth shut and not insinuate anything!!! unfortunately the longer we are TTC the harder it is getting to not say "well... if I am here by then".... "unless there's some reason not to be here" or some other stupid comment.....
(seriously... how do women keep pregnancy quiet for 12 weeks anyway!!!!!!

:hug: for n2l - I'm sorry you are in this place, it sucks, and while trying to think of something empathetic and supportive, I have come up with.... nothing.... I can't think of anything helpful to say, cause it is a yuck place you are in.
we all know how easy it is to be hurt by things on BB threads - few people on BB say things that are designed to hurt, but it does feel like things are "in your face" sometimes.
and yet... you were able to look after us and allow us to remain hopeful - that is so respectful - it's hard to be genuine when you have mixed feelings. A lot of people would not be able to do that - but respect seems to be a defining feature of bellybelly and you are a model of BB support for everyone. thankyou.
Glad to see you around again though - you are an asset all over BB and while we hope you get a surprised BFP, we really wish you all the best and strength with whatever happens or whatever you decide.

Hi ladies,

N2L, thanks hunni. I am sorry too, that you find yourself in this situation :hug: Each time I hold my fingers and toes crossed and hope for the best outcome for you. I hope that one day you'll get your happy ending. I won't say I know how you feel, but I just wanted to say that I can imagine how hard it would be to be happy for others when you yourself haven't got the same good news. You are one truly gracious, supportive and beautiful woman. I thank you so much for your support, and I hope I can do the same for you. Big hugs gorgeous :hug:

Lilmisshaveachat, I was under the understanding that the transfer day is same as ovulation day? So DPT is the same as DPO.....If I am wrong, then I first tested after the trigger was out of my system on 10 dpo. I counted it as 8dpo :dunno: I had a day 2 embie put back in. In the past, I've gone with day 5 & 6. GL for your test hun!

Myturn, I don't know how I got my wires crossed :redface: Sorry hun! In any case, GL for your EPU tomorrow, will have everything crossed for you :crossfingers:

Hi to everyone, GL to everyone wherever you are in your cycle for this week.

b xox

Evening All! Sounds like lots of positives going on in here...funny how we wait, then there's this flutter of info, then another wait.

MissB - i am having a sneaky smile for you too from this side of the screen, it would be wonderful to see a BFP on the list :pray:

KearBear, Amy and Lisy (and the other's who've reassured me!) - thanks for confirming my magic unplanned boob job isn't imagined. It's good for me given i'm normally strugglin to fill a B cup so despite the tenderness it's awesome :lol:

KearBear well done on the "final countdown" & LiseyT, night shift then early morning US, you must be exhausted. Hope it showed some good follies for you.

myturn - I'm singing the Annie song "Tomorrow" thinking of your EPU. Hope it goes smoothly and there are lots of good healthy eggies. Will you get any sleep tonight?? Hope so, you definitely need it with the sickness ;)

Vic - Am singing Annie for you too, hope your appointment goes well xx

AFM - Nothing new. Bruised this morning with the orgalutran. Weird as i thought i had found that sweet spot, though maybe it decided it didn't like being *****ed anymore! Had a work colleauge tell me "secretly" she's 9weeks pregnant today. My heart skipped a beat, i was really excited for her but she proceeded to tell me that she and DH had been trying for 3 months and she was getting worried. Ah! Hello??? 3 months is like a dream conception right?? Grr. Shouldn't complain though as she's unaware of my IVF path at present, she's all innocent and beautiful and really if it goes to plan, it will be lovely to be pregnant at work with her.

Thinking of you all each morning as i drive to work. It's so nice to know that we're not alone in this don't you think.
xx

thanks kimbe... last time i barely slept the night before, but this time I think I feel so crap I will pass out in a couple of hours and have trouble waking up!!.... now to convince hubby to go buy me a mcflurry first....
oh.... and did I mention I sing, and have actually BEEN in Annie :lol:

I think of you all often while driving too! Seriously agree, I didn't realise how alone I was feeling in this journey, and now I know that there are people who really DO understand.... thanks girlies...

ps... miss B.... no :redface: necessary.... it's SOOO hard to keep on top of everything in here! we are SOOOOOOOO busy! it's freaky!

I have been reading all your post and comments to me and I am sorry I have only done persists here and there I am working on my presentation for Friday and can only afford small timeframes of distraction, as much as I would live more cause I have so many of you to write to.
I will be spending about an hour or do Friday doing all my persists for all you wonderful supportive ladies xo

Kimbe, FX you can join your pg fiend at work soon :crossfingers:!!!

Myturn, I keep forgetting to say that I love your new avvy, totally HOT! Will be thinking of you tomorrow :hug:

Kerbear, don't worry hun, if I was working I would hardly have time to jump on! GL for your presentation at work :crossfingers:!

Off to bed to read, I am reading an Alisson Dubois book, it's actually really good :)

b xoxo

Firstly, hello and thnkyou for ll you positive energiy and thoughts.
Today US went well, EPU scheduled for 3/2/12 8am. did trigger at 8pm before work and am currently sitting at the nurses station with a warm blanket on my crampy tummy desperately hoping none of these kiddies need anything tonight.

Good news= :happydance:
Have 20 follies bigger then 10mm and 10 follies bigger than 14mm, hoping for a decent amount based on that.
Bad news= :(
Progesterone too high at the moment for a ET so will probably end up ahving to wait a month and do a FET.

Kimbe- exhausted!! finished work at 8am, got to clinic at 9:30 and didn't get home until 11:30. Then was paranoid that clinic would call and cancel based on low oestrogen (in the 12000's, so safe there) levels, so didn't sleep great anyway. I always thought orgal hurt the most- feels like needle is blunt and almost hd to talk myself into to pushing it harder. 3mths.... Is she kidding? good news for her but we all hate her!!!! I am sure you will be joining her soon though xxx

Myturn- thinking of you today- hope you get the numbers you are after. avatar is super cute- i havent been able to figure out how to do them yet

Vic- GL with FS today xx

hi to everyone else :goodluck:

N2L- wanted to say that as wonderfully supportive this forum has been for me, that I too struggle sometimes with the optimism that goes on. My DH tells me that I never ever think of the positives and always expect the worse- have to keep reminding him, that my life seems to pretty much fit the category of worst possible outcome. I think though, that unfortunately we are all well aware of not being too excited and knowing that at anystage things could go from good to bad (or BFP-BFN), because otherwise we would all have fallen preg naturally and have no need for an IVF forum. anyway, you're not alone and whether you want to sit back and not chat or need to tell us how unfair the world is... we are here. :grouphug:

sleep tight girls

:bedtime:

Hi Ladie just a really quick one wishing Miss B luck though Im sure she doesnt need it for het BT. To those ladies who are feeling down I totally understand where you are coming from...been struggling since yeserday when a friend announced ....not another one... a baby due in August 4 in 5 years!! All i could think was you dont have to put yours on a payment plan honey! Oh well our day will come hopefully..FX for everyone. Off to bed im exhausted 1st week of teaching. Night night beautiful ladies xx

Hi ho, hi ho, to e p u I go....



S$&# I'm tired though....