LT TTC Two Week Wait 2012 #7

Still wishing so much luck to Juniper, Vic, N2L, Rosemarry and anyone else I might have missed. I have everything crossed.

Today is CD27 so tomorrow is the day I have been dreading. Whatever happens I want to thank everyone for the support on here. It has made this cycle easier to cope with. You are all rockstars.

Now onto the whinge. I found out at the start of the year that I have a gallstone the size of a golf ball and last night I had a gallstone attack. Thankfully I didn't have to go to hospital this time and with the help of DH getting heat packs and noninflammatory tabs, I managed to make it stop. I wanted to ball my eyes out. It's only my second attack, but it got me mega worried about it affecting me TTC. In other news I've been majorly bloated and my lady pillows have been hurting like mad for the last few days. I find myself patting my stomach sometimes, then thinking I'm probably just patting an AF symptom. Either way I find out tomorrow.

On this day last cycle I turned into the Incredible Hulk at work. This time round I have a nice relaxing day at home, watching bad television. I am trying to keep my Que Sera, Sera attitude, but it's hard.

Thanks again for listening.

"Pinkseamonster" Thanks for your blessing. I feel sorry for you have gallstone attack. It is good you can some days off from work and stay home to relax. I heard eating walnuts everyday can help for the gallstone. I hope you will get better soon and good luck for you too for this cycle.

PSM, FX for you tomorrow! I hope it's good news. Sorry to hear about the gallstone.

Hi everyone here.

Wishing you all good luck for the following few days with bts. I am hanging out till tomorrow for my bt. I know it's going to be negative as I have been bleeding from day 5 post transfer (still bleeding). I just can't wait to stop the progesterone pesseries 3 times a day rectally & I am so over waking up numerous times every night fully covered in sweat. I just want this cycle to be over so I can look forward to next one - my clinic makes us take a break of one cycle. Then I can try fet. I am just hoping once I stop the progesterone I will finally stop bleeding (there can't be any lining left surely its been 7 full days now).

So, bad news. AF arrived today. I know we try not to get our hopes up, and yet this month I really thought I had a good chance. Oh well. Time to have a drink and watch terrible movies.

It's bang on CD 28, so the good news is I know that clomid really evens out my cycle and in the future if I go past CD 28 and haven't seen AF, then maybe I can get excited.

Continued good luck to you lovely ladies still waiting to hear.

x
Monster.

Hi Beau, sorry to hear you are bleeding, it must be a horrible feeling. I hope you will still have BFP. Actually I have the same feeling with you that I can't wait to stop taking pessaries ( I am taking 800mg per day, I called my nurse toady and my doctor agreed to reduce my dosage to 600mg daily from tomorrow). I still feel very drowsy and dizzy, but I hope tomorrow I will feel better. I don't think I can have BFP this time as well because I have so many side effects from progesterone and my body not feel well.

I am not sure I am going to try the other cycle in November (maybe it is too quick for the body recovery). I think in December Monash IVF will have a break for Christmas, so probably I will do the next cycle in January. Three month waiting, it is a little bit long.

aww sorry Pinkseamonster xxxoo

did the dr say why you ar bleeding so much Beau?? thats odd!

how are you going N2l? best of luck xoxo... do u find non AC cys' easier? ... im doing the same type and ive got a real "whatever" attitude this cy! lol
had too much going on i guess helps as we just moved into our new house!
but DH was back from work so we could BD without drs assistance ha! just gone thru the motions this time :rolleyes:
im 4 dpo , but dont know when ill test if i do ha ha.

goodluck vic, rosemarry, juniper, N2l and everyone else :grouphug:
bring on some more BFPs!

I should jump in and say that AF arrived last week. Sorry for not letting you all know. I forget that not everyone in here is in the other thread. I have started another stim cycle and are CD6 today. EPU probably Monday with transfer being Saturday 20th. So see you in a couple of weeks xxx

Hi Beau, I have been thinking of you that you have been bleeding since transfer. I read the prescription of Pessaries, it says if you have vaginal bleeding, you need to tell your doctor as soon as possible; if you have blood clots, you need to stop using it and tell your doctor immediately. I am not sure have you been contact with your nurse or doctor.

This is my first time to use Pessaries, this morning I found there is something like the white fat floating on the urine when I go to toilet. I am worried the Pessarie all came out. I am wondering to know that is normal or I did not do it properly.

Miss B. It is good to know we share the same FS. I am living in the north of Melbourne, I travel about one hour to go to see him as I heard he is good, this is my second cycle to seeing him. It is also good to know you have two children by doing IVF sucessfully.

Rosemarry, the pessaries are covered in wax. When you insert them, the wax melts (due to your body heat) and releases the progesterone, which is absorbed through your vaginal wall. The wax is not absorbed and falls out when you stand up. This is why you need to lie down for at least half an hour after inserting the pessaries - to allow the progesterone time to be absorbed. When you go to the toilet, the melted wax falls into the cold water and solidifies. It's normal. Because they melt at our body temperature, I'm always careful in handling the pessaries when I take them out of the fridge. I don't want them (partially) melting in my hand as I carry them to the bedroom, so I always carry it with the least possible transfer of body heat. Mine have some excess wrapper at the top (where you open it), so I carry it by that instead of touching the part of the wrapper in contact with the pessary, if that makes sense?

PSM, sorry to hear AF found you. Feel free to join us on the LT TTC thread while you wait to O.

Beau, thinking of you today. :hug:

Afm, all signs point to another BFN this cycle...

Hi everyone.

Finally my wait is over - BFN! Even though I knew it was going to be BFN I am still very upset. I found out at work and had to hide in the toilets and hae a cry before I could face anyone or anything. The clinic have said once I get my AF I need to wait a cycle then can try a FET. This is very strange to me as I am still bleeding so I believe I have already had AF. They said that my progesterone level is still up - of course it is up I have been on 3 pesseries a day for the last 9 days. Anyway I just hope I dont get another af in a weeks time then need to a month after that. I asked what they will do differently next time & they told me I will just need estrogen tablets then I will start progesterone pesseries a week before FET and I will need to continue them until I am 10 weeks pregnant (so about 9 weeks). I cannot deal with that - my night sweats have been aweful & I have only had 2 weeks of progesterone this cycle. Has anyone used estrogen tablets? What are they like?

Rosemarry - I was initially put on crinone gel twice a day post egg collection but I started bleeding day 5 post tf so was changed to the pessaries 3 times a day. They were apparently supposed to stop the bleeding but they didnt work. Because I am bleeding I was advised to use the pesseries rectally - you also get the white coating coming out when you go to the toilet. One advantage of using them rectally is that you dont have to lay down for 30mins after.

Sarah4kurt - I have not been given a reason from my clinic as to why i was bleeding. I will be seeing them in a few weeks and asking lots and lots of questions.

Thanks for all you thoughts and wishes and good luck to all those still looking good in the 2ww. Hopefully I will be back here soon.

Beau, I was hoping you would get some answers about the bleeding. You could ask about doing a natural FET if you normally O on your own? You just wait until you O and then have the FET the appropriate number of days after O. That's what I did this cycle. I am doing the progesterone pessaries, but I only started after transfer and would not expect to continue them until 10wks (since my body it also producing its own progesterone after O). With a medicated FET (what you're describing) you definitely need to stay on the meds until 10wks (because your body is not producing any progesterone of its own). If you can afford it, there are also progesterone injections, but I've been told they cost about $100 per injection, so you'd be looking at a lot of money (even if you only needed 1 per day, that would be $6,300!!)... You could always ask about it though. Maybe there's a way to get them cheaper?

Thanks Juniper.

The clinic told me they would call me this afternoon after speaking to my doctor about my worries with the progesterone and night sweats so I will be asking to have an appointment in a week or so & I will ask about a natural cycle. My cycle was normal when they tracked me so long ago. My lining was a little bit thin but that was all. Does anyone know if u can do a natural cycle if you have thin lining? Or is there something u can take just to increase the lining? I will also ask about the injections too.

hey beau, progynova or similar estrogen pill you can take to thicken your lining, ask your dr for options. ive been on them and they have worked good xxxxx hope they give u some answers

Hi everyone, I start having mild bleeding since yesterday and I think it maybe my AF is coming. I feel a little bit down. I did not reduce my dosage of pessaries because my dizziness and drowsiness are nearly gone. Only left two days waiting....:)

Someone start using progesterone after EPU, I always use it after transfer, does anyone know what it is that for?

Beau, thanks telling me there is pessarie rectally, I will ask my FS next time. Does the white coating come out it is normal? I was thinking I might not insert properly or my lying positioin is not right.

Sarah4Kurt - thanks for that info. When you took progynova did you need to take it from early in your cycle then take progesterone for ages? Was it called a HRT cycle or natural? I have an appointment with my DR in 2 weeks time so I will be asking about everything then. Good luck to you!

Rosemarry - the white coating from the pesseries is supposed to come out. Whether it is used vaginally or rectally it comes out and is pretty grosse. Have you had night sweats from the progesterone? Hope that your bleeding has stopped and my fingers are crossed for you for a BFP tomorrow.

Juniper - how are you going? Hope everything is going along well.

Good luck to Wishanddream & N2L also.

Hey beau, i took the Estrogen in the first half of cycle, and it was a HRT cycle so i had to take the progesterone for quite a while... till i got a BFN, sometimes your dr will get you to take it same time as your progesterone in sec half too.
it was ok but yeah sometimes emot. up n down. xo

I'm out. Started bleeding tonight.

Oh no Juniper :(

I'm so, so sorry :( :hug:

Thanks N2L. I knew it was coming. Had a good cry yesterday and now wrangling with the seemingly-never-ending "What now?" question...

Juniper - I am so sorry too. Doesn't look like October is a good month for anyone so far :(

Thanks for that information Sarah4kurt. I am more worried about continous night after night of night sweats from the progesterone - so dont want to be on it for weeks and weeks. My last dose of progesterone was Tuesday morning and I am still having night sweats. My poor husband has been sleeping in the spare bed. I dont blame him though. I dont like wakingup in my sweat let alone anyone elses.

I am feeling much better than I was a few days ago. I was very upset and stressed out at work on Wednesday (I was training a new person and had no patience) so decided to take Thurs and Friday off & do things I want to do. Had a lovely day yesterday and I feel so much more relaxed now.

How do I get a signature? I have tried but its says I dont have permission to access my profile.

Thanks

Beau, in order to get a signature you need to be a BB member which happens when you have a post count of 50 or more and have been a member for at least a month.

So sorry Juniper. I thought the list would bring you luck. I hate that moment when you know its over and then the panic of what to do next. It totally sucks. :hug:

So sorry juniper :( :hug:

this crap sucks :comfort:

Lol, trust me to break the group's lucky charm!! :doh:

Sending big hugs Juniper it sucks xx

I'm sorry again Juniper, it sucks :( and you haven't broken the group's lucky charm! lol xoxo

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Sending big hugs Juniper it sucks xx

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Its not a lucky charm when they don't stick!!! I thought the odds were stacked against me when I did the list because the last two in a row got BFP's!! Then I did too.... But while I wouldn't change what happened, getting a non sticky one means I'm six months down the track with no more cycles having been done..... I'm so far behind and things are just getting older and older!!!!
At the moment I feel like I am in the TWW either AF will arrive or by some weird miracle I ovulated on my own..... (Zip symptoms though, so that's unlikely!)

hopefully we will all get there, so hard to think about what it might mean if I don't!!

Thanks ladies. AF is being a cow, but I'm otherwise fine. BFN #51 - I've had plenty of practice. ;)

myturn, I know what you mean. I'm kind of scared to TTC this cycle because it would potentially give us an EDD at the end of July again (unless I get a screwy cycle). I don't know if I could handle that (our last angel was due 30 July). This time last year we were starting that BFP cycle with no expectation that it would happen... It changed the whole TTC game... It changed everything...

Big HUgs Juniper xoxoxo .... i need some too a BFN for me also , i!! wish i could have a reason as to why we all have to want a baby so much but get so much heartbreak and dissapointment over and over instead, TTC should be fun and a happy time , not this!
Big HUgS girls xoxoxox

Aww, I'm sorry Sarah :hug:. Wish there wasn't so much heartbreak and disappointment in here for you ladies, TTC should be fun dammit :wall:! Big hugs lovely and I will have everything crossed for you next time xox

Hugs for you too, Sarah! :hug:

Myturn -i had no signs of o after my d&c. No positive opk's. Only bt confirmed it after thinking it was never going to happen.

Sarah-hugs to you.

Juniper - myturn is right, you didnt break the good luck charm. It didnt stick for me either. Fx we all graduate for good soon xxx

AWW Thanks Miss B, juniper and Vic :-) im feeling much better now, back to researching and planning next moves... ugh!
im just thinking my rt ovary produced nothing this cy on the puregon and my lft was the one where the eggs are and thats my beeped" up tube that was "unblocked" but may not have been enough?? :dunno:... me thinking i have to give IVF more of a go... crap! see you all back here soon i hope xoxo

I'm glad you're feeling a bit better now Sarah :) Wish our bodies weren't so confusing! lol. In a cycle I did in January (stim cycle) I felt all the action was happening on my left side as that's where all the pain was from the drugs. It turned out my left ovary produced nothing (thanks ovary!) and my right ovary where I felt nothing, produced all the good sized eggs. Go figure!!! lol. GL in your next cycle hun, I hope it's THE ONE!! xox

Thanks Miss B :-) xoxo I hope your right! i wish you all the luck in the world too!silly bodies alright, my rt ovary is running out more than my left :-(

Aww thanks Sarah, sorry I din't see you post! As long as the ovaries are pumping something out, right? lol. I wish you all the very best also hun :crossfingers::goodluck: xoxox

Hi everyone, I think for the first time ever I truly belong in a 2ww group. Had our little blasty transferred earlier today. Now I've got to keep myself busy until the 7th Nov. Arghh!

Yay! FX for your Nire!! I've updated the list on the other thread.

Urgh. Need to vent a little here, sorry in advance...
Why does progesterone have to mimic pregnancy so well? Give me a symptom, any symptom and I tell you I've had it. And I have another eight days to go?? Oh my goodness.
*End rant*