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Sunbeam-I KNOW!!! i have heaps that is why my E2 is always so high i might have heaps of eggs left in there but how do you get pregnant so easy with 1 or 2 when i have an abundant amount and cant get pregnant now.
my FS did say because my E2 sky rockets they are giving me a low dose of puregon this time as i responded really well last time they are only trying for 8-10 eggs because if my E2 hits the rickter again they will consider cancelling my cycle i am disapointed if i have 22 follicles now on day 9 imagine how many mature eggs i would have if they gave me a touch more puregon like they did murrycod she had 9 eggs 1st go like me we both were on 200 iu then this time she was on 225 iu and got 27 eggs i feel it is such a waste of follicles i supose i have to do the safest thing for my body but i will say i am proud of my fertile ovaries.
Good luck tomorrow hope we get our BFP's this month so we dont have to do the ivf but if we do at least i will have a cycle buddy.
Alice- thanks i am feeling more positive after my U/S today.
Murrycod-i know you are stressing it will be ok you are taking all the medications you need to help this bub or bubs stick so try to relax and enjoy being pregnant and look forward to a Feb baby.
Porsche-good for you it was hard for me i felt defeated and like a failure but relised we can still get pregnant naturally we just need some help right now as it is taking tooooooo long.
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Murray, I'm quite sure that your cramping is normal. I clearly remember I started with the slight period-like pain (my DH hated me using that phrase and I had to say 'abdo cramping'!!) since about Day12 post D2transfer, and it continued for almost the entire 1st trimester. It was the uterine nerves detecting the uterus stretching. Only after experiencing mine and worrying did several friends come forward and tell me they had the exact same!!!!! oh, and the 'windy-issue'(!) comes from high (natural) progesterone levels that maintain the pregnancy. All good!!!! great!!!
Feral- how are those numbers poss without hyper drugs? are you PCOS? good luck with it all!
Porsche- well done, and congrats....it's a positive step and hopeffully with end in a happy bundle!
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Sevie-they are antral follicles i looked on the net at what is a normal antral follice count in a natural cycle and 15-30 is a good-normal ovarian reserve anything over 30 suggests pcos and anything under 11 is not so good so i guess at 36 my ovaries are still in there 20's i just wish the quality was as good.
There is still only 1 that is going to pop the other 21 are going to be wasted:cry:
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Ferrals - I don't think they are wasted as they don't pop - just get reabsorbed back into the ovary. Well that's how i understand it but I could be wrong. Either way, great that you have a good number there and I hope works in your favour with your upcoming IVF. Glad you are feeling more positive after your scan. I forgot you are moving too - that is super stressful on its own to deal with, never mind the court case. Never rains but it pours! Hope you can find a calm space amidst all that chaos x
Sunbeam - good luck for Monday. Hope the planets are lining up for you :)
MurryCod - are you feeling a bit better? Sounds like lots of similar experiences so hopefully you can be reassured by it. That's one of the legacies of mc that everyone carries - the background fear that something could go wrong. Which is why you need to stay with us so we can keep reminding you it will be OK. x
Damprye, Sevie, Porsche, Crafty, MatthewsMum - hi to you all.
I am just getting more and more depressed with my situation. My temp charts aren't great, I only have one ovary working now and both are stuck down, one blocked tube on the opposite side of the working ovary (so can't go natural Crafty) and I'm 41 1/2. We only ever get a small number of eggs (usually about 7) and the number of blasties is dropping each time we do it. The only positive I have to hold onto is that I did fall pg. Seems like a wild dream that it could ever happen again but I appreciate all your encouragement and know there are others in similar situations to me and that we are all struggling and hoping and trying to live our lives with happiness despite this damn TTC nightmare.
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Thanks girls for all of the encouragement, I feel heaps better today, I wen't and got more bloods done on Thursday just to ease my mind and my levels were at 1970, so I can relax a little more.
I had visions of myself and DH jumping up and down with excitement and being so happy, but to be honest this has been the most stressfull part of the whole process! Just have to make it to my scan date, deep breath..
Have started to get yucky heartburn last 2 days, and phew, this 'wind' is killing me!!!! So grose!
I have been wih my DH for over 5 years and I NEVER have farted in front of him, and it's so hard to sneak a quiet one out when I smell so bad :redface:
Ferrals, I am so happy that you got good news about your follies. What was it that you were doing last time to keep you E2 levels down?? Mabey start that now. And I totally agree with you about not wanting to over stim. If they aren't going to hatching blasty to test, well then every follie is preciouse, so you won't need heaps. Plus you seriously don't want to be in the pain I was in, ouch!!
Can't wait to see how things go for you next month, fingers crossed you can start ASAP XXXX
I hope things can settle down for you at home too, have you had any luck finding a house to rent? Sorry you are having such a hard time, I wish I could make life easier for you right now XXXX
Sunbeam, good luck today sweetheart!! Will be stalking all the way, and ahhhh, bring on the cramping, since it has been a good sign for you in the past!!XXXXX
I hope this is the one XX It's the good ovary this time isn't it!?!?! XX
Alice, honey how are you doing? I am dying for you to start your cycle. I want to hear every detail.
And no probs for noting down the medds, I read on the net that the meds also help with implantation, even if you don't have over-reactive cells. So best wishes X Things will work out, Ipromise. Huggs
Crafty, you are a darling. You have no idea how much your post settled me down X
Possum, love to you, thank you babe X
Sevie, thanks for helping me settle too, it's amazing how success stories and similar stories with cramping keep my faith high, I appreciate it so much X
Porche, well done honey, biting the bullet is the hardest part of starting, you will get more confident and excited as things start to progress now X After my failed IUI attempts, I was devastated that I would have to go and start IVF to have a baby, but it has given me an oppurtunity, that I would not ever have had, so be strong, be confident, and lean on us all the way, because you will be celebrating your BFP soon too XXXXX
Damprye, hope you are wel XXXXX
Matthew'sMum, you doing your FET this month, will be stalking you!!
Iv'e decided to bite the bullet too, and go searching for a PG ticker. I will disable it when I come in to visit, I know we don't have to, but out of respect for you all I will. I know a lot of girls don't mind it, but there are still some girls that do, and there is no way I will offend them, because I love you all so much X
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Murraycod fantastic news about your HCG. Are you planning on another BT or just wait til the scan now? God Bless you not farting in front of your DH. Just shows what a lady you must be lol.
Can't see others reply now I have started writting. OMG I hate this computer. Its tiny.
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Alice-my 2 FS have both said 8-10 eggs at collection is normal so at 41 7 eggs is still a good number from 1 ovary don't lose hope just yet.
Murrycod-WIVF will go to day 5 blasties if there is more than 5 eggs and if they don't show to much fragmentation otherwise they put back day 2 embryos so i hope to get 8 eggs this time like i did last time on a low dose of puregon.
Great to see your numbers are climbing nice and high.
And after all your emails we send each other i find it hard to believe you can't or won't f#rt in front of your DH lol.
My DH likes to get me in bed by shoving the doona over my head after he lets one rip so on the rare occasion i have something bad to eat i try to get him back.
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Murraycod, ur HCG levels are brilliant.Congratulations sweetie,I have been stalking trying to find u lol...I got a feeling that all will be ok and in 9 months you will have ur bubs in ur arms.I cant stop laughing at the thought u wont fart in front of hubby.let er rip lover, otherwise u b getting pains trying to hold them off.....
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Sunbeam - great news on your follies - GL with the insem this morning.
Alice - sorry you have to wait but hopefully getting your system right will be the answer.
Porsche - sorry your cycle is still haywire. It's so frustrating when you just want to get back to 'normal' so you can start trying again. Hang in there.
Cheers to everyone else.
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Hi ladies,
Well not great news. Post wash count was less than 1 million. Poor donor daddy, he felt so bad. He felt even worse when the FS mentioned that one option for us was to consider using a different donor (this won't happen I've never wanted to use an unknown donor, if IVF did not work for us we would consider using donor daddy's partners sperm but that would be our last resort). We have decided to do a home insem tomorrow morning to give ourselves the best chance for this month. I still have a good feeling for this time. :crossfingers:
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Hi Ladies
Oh Sunbeam what a let down. What is involved with a home insem? I have visions of turkey basters lol.
Trea thanks for the wishes it is very frusterating and my OPK's are not gving me the result I'm looking for. So i'm either going to O late again or not a all. Any who IVF booked so not over yet.
MurrayCod Yay for your Levels. I bet that is a little weight off of your shoulders? I can't wait to hear about your scan.
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Sunbeam-Sorry you didnt get to do an insemiation today what a let down but hopfully tomorrow will be a better chance closer to ovulation so the sperm wont have to hang around for to long to get to your egg.
I just looked at my DH post wash result and he had 57 million and 87% motility out of the 477 million total and we still cant get pregnant with that with all my eggs and an abundent supply of sperm and still nothing we are waiting until Monday to BD when i should ovulate insted of BDing all the way up to ovulation like we normally do so hope the egg pops when there is fresh swimmers in there waiting i think i might have to stand on my head this time cause nothing else seem to be working.
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Hi girls sorry for the quick reply - it's been a weekend of birthday celebrations and we are off now to another one.
Sunbeam - I'm sorry you didn't get to go ahead with the IUI - your poor friend must be feeling bad about it but it's disappointing for you too. I hope today will make up for the disappointment and you'll be able to get there on your own anyway! Good luck and hope this one is the one - go the lucky ovary!!
Ferrals - must be so damn frustrating for you - we can't win either way can we? Either we don't have everything we need and can't get there or we have all we need and can't get there. Why does it have to be so hard?! Like Sunbeam, I hope you can have a lucky month and don't need to go ahead with IVF. Sounds like a good plan to abstain a few days then give it a go. Fingers crossed for you.
Crafty - good luck with the move! It's great you'll have a new home but at the same time I'm sorry it has put your IVF plans on hold. It is so expensive...sigh. I hope you can do both.
MurryCod - glad you are feeling reassured and your second beta reading is great so sounds like it is hormone city at your place and that is what is causing all the cramps and wind. Had to laugh about you trying to hold that in, in front of your DH. Good lord woman, when you give birth there will be a lot more going on that a sneaky fart so better get him used to it now! We have a windy household I have to say and it is always the source of a good joke. Better out than I, I say!!
Sorry Sevie, Porsche, Mildez, Trea and all that I haven't had time to go back a few pages to see how you are all doing. Wishing you all the best though and will be back tomorrow for proper catch up.
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PS Ferrals, thanks for the comment on the eggs - that made me feel better
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Hi Ladies,
Ferrals - it does make no sense does it? You have more eggs and more sperm it should be easier for you. Having said that we have had more success on the lower sperm count IUI's than the ones with higher counts so there is obviously no logic to it. It's just typical TTC chaos! I had the same understanding as Alice that eggs that don't release just go back in to the ovary.
Murrycod - you're so funny. I don't fart in front of people either so that would be super shame for me too, especially if they are stinky :redface: but hey lets face it there is not much dignity in any of the TTC stuff so why should that change once we are UTD? :lol: So glad to see your numbers are going up well. It was both ovaries for me this time one from each side.
Porsche - heheh yes its sort of the turkey baster idea only when you are working with 2-3 mils a turkey baster seems a bit like wishful thinking ;) I just use a 5 mil syringe.
Alice - Sorry you are feeling frustrated,this is such a hard and annoying journey. I hope a weekend full of birthdays has taken your mind off things for a little while.
AFM - we still did the IUI yesterday at the clinic even with the low count. We did a home insem this morning obviously I have no idea on the count but there was a good 2.5 mils which is a good amount for him.
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Murraycod - I'm not sure how i missed it but CONGRATS on the AWESOME beta!!
Sunbeam - fingers crossed for your IUI and insem - the more the merrier I say.
Cheers Trea
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Yeah i did know the eggs don't release i read they are reabsorbed and never used again it seems such a waste of potential eggs that could be if we only ovulate one a month then its silly to waste the other 21 especially when you do IVF and and you know how important all those follicles are.
Sunbeam-good luck for your TWW and lets hope the 2 eggs pop and you get pregnant with twins.
Crafty-how are you going not long to your FS appointment.
Alice-nothing like some celebrations to take your mind off TTC.
Hello to everyone i missed.
AFM-we weakend last night and fooled around i know i said we would wait until i am about to O my LH is just starting to surge the line on my CBFM is as darker then the E2 line but i did not get a peak reading yet so i expect that tomorrow Oh! well when we want it we want it so if i don't get pregnant this month on to the IVF.
P.S i will snag him again toninght and if DH is not working tue night.
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hi everyone, ferrals -good luck with catching that egg,it's nice not to have perfectly timed b'd sometimes....trea-good luck with the 11th,are you having bt's or scans?...sunbeam-fingers crossed...alice-big hugs,thinking of you...craftymummy-have you re-scheduled your fs app?hope all goes smoothly with your move,exciting but at the same time a lot of work..murraycod-how are you feeling ?...mildez,sevie & porshe-how are you all going?...afm-havivg bt's to pinpoint 'o' for fet,thought i'd have a scan as well ,checking my lining ,but apparently my fs goes by the bt's.
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Ferrals - here's hoping it is your month and you will not have go the IVF.
Mathew's Mum - I am doing a HRT FET this month and had a scan last Thursday with lining 8.4mm so good to go! Any idea yet for your FET date?
Cheers Trea
