LTTTC after Miscarriage and Loss

:o Mildez - don't know how I'd go peeing on all those frogs!! Ah that's too funny. Camping sounds great - really feel the need to get away atm. Enjoy your bding fest - hope you don't get too sore :)

Thanks for your comments (and Porsche) too - I was logging on to delete my post before anyone had the chance to read so thanks for understanding. If the shoe was on the other foot I'd feel so bad for them, and I would never want them to go through what we've been through. I should have known that you'd get it just hate feeling sorry for myself - it's really not helpful to me or anyone here. Sorry ladies!

MurryCod - how are you this morning? Are you back at work yet? Hope the cramps have settled down. Thinking of you x

Ferrals - are you going to keep testing just in case?

Crafty - any news with you? Are you and MurryCod going to test together?

Sunbeam, Sevie - hi and sorry if I missed anyone else.

x

Alice- i forgot to mention kit is still in there with a chance a heartbeat of 80 between 5 and 6 weeks is actually normal it usually picks up to 120 to 150 at the end of the 6th week so her scan said she was 5 weeks 3 days so that would be right but the bleeding is a worry so hopefully for her she is just a few days behind and the bleeding is just bub settling in.

Ferrals - we posted at the same time. Cracked me up reading your bding story - thank god we can still find things to laugh about - your DH sounds like a character. I'm sorry you had such a ****ty shift :hug: I don't blame you for bursting into tears, sometimes it's just more than we can bare. If it makes your male colleague think twice next time he opens his mouth then good. I have a friend who knows we have been TTC for a long time and she tells me about her friend who is struggling after two months and I said I don't care, I don't want to know about it and that shut her up. And I really don't want to know about it - not being mean just protecting myself which is what you had to do last night. Glad your furbabies are keeping you company and I guess you knew that your temp was going to drop just bummed out for you that it has. I've had the same convo with my DH about donor egg and he is the same - he wants our bub and if he can't have it think he doesn't want to go with donors but who knows he might change his mind after all fostering is someone else's kids and we've talked about that. Can you come clean my house? It looks like a bomb went off! Dad's visiting later this week so guess I'll get to it before then LOL. Hope you have an OK day today - I'm putting a mental shield around you that no more ungrateful skanks or relatives thereof or just insensitive people either ask you about or tell you about pg. OK - shield in place. If they come near you they will have a sudden urge to pee and rush to the nearest toilet. Then they will be disorientated and forget why they are there. I think that'll work. Looks like it'll be Try in July for a few of us and if only that PGD testing wasn't so expensive fingers crossed you'll get a good healthy one x

Ha cross posted again! And thanks for the post about heartbeat - that's reassuring. The thought of another mc after only having had one scares the life out of me, more than not falling pg again. She's been on my mind heaps.

Alice-Yeh i have been thinking of her to and i can understand why she is thinking the worst i just hope she is wrong.
And it looks like july is going to be the month for a couple of us to be doing ivf i hope WIVF can get me in my AF is due wed so there is no chance for this cycle so next AF should be around the 23rd of june i hope they don't want me to do the long cycle with the pill i cant take the pill never have been able to thats why SIVF put me on and antagonist cycle which was perfect for me but i have read that WIVF likes you to go on the pill to fit into their schedule which mean i would not go for EPU until the end of july anyway i guess i just have to wait and see what this new FS says.
I am going to concentrate on losing a few kilos before then i have 2.8 kilos to lose i want to get back to 62kg that is what i weighed before i had Abbi.

Well ladies I just had to test it was driving me crazy and well BFN no suprises there then !

Really Peed off now just another month wasted and no medical help for me so like it or lump it I guess !!!

Will be back later in the week when I get my head back together and feel like talking.

Sorry murraycod Im out just couldn't wait anylonger to test FX for a BFP for you next week !

Crafty - I'm sorry you got a BFN think it's crap you can't get medical assistance - wonder if it is worth ringing IVF clinics in other states just maybe a FS might know someone who would help you in WA or be able to treat you with drugs inter-state? Clutching at straws I guess but it's just frustrating to read - my SIL is 45 by the way and she is going through Melbourne IVF so they must treat older women there. Would you like me to find out who it is?

Ferrals - I hate taking the pill too. My FS is pretty adamant he wants me to do it with this cycle but I really don't want to and the TCM doc agrees with me and thinks there is no reason why I have to take it so haven't gone on it - guess we'll have to have that convo with him soon and see if he'll change his mind. Are you still taking your chinese herbs? I have lost some weight doing the diet but it's full on as you know and not easy to manage. I'm around 63 kilos and would be happy to loose a few more but not too much as that's a good weight for me.

MurryCod - you're very quiet...are you OK? Are your kittens keeping you distracted? Sending you lots of love x

Alice- i am taking a few chinese herbs and coq10 but that is it i am wondering if i should go back on vitex because i stopped it leading up to my 1st PGD ivf but it was cancelled due to high E2 of 300 on day 1 so i went back on it and it went down to 187 still a bit high but ok to start i have done a lot of reading on high E2 early in the cycle it is ok for normal fertility but not good for ivf i read i can be bad for egg quality and implatation as it makes the progesterone level rise to early in the cycle and i always have high E2 early in my cycle hence the high reading on my CBFM on day 6 of my cycle the day after AF has left the building but i O around day 11 which is ok and my LP is usually around 14-15 days so that is normal god i have so many questions to ask my FS.
I just have this feeling something is wrong with my hormones even though my cycle is regular i feel something is different with my body.

Hi Girls, yeah I know I'm on the quiet side, I'm battling TBH, these cramps just won't let up, and leave me alone. Thismorning they were just buzzy and mild, but since early avo they have become quite pinchy and strong again. Every now and then, when I stand up, it's like I have a nasty stitch that prevents me from standing straight, then turns into AF feeling.
It is just keeping me from being positive. I've logged on like a hundred times today, but just can't bring myself to type anything.
Had a nana nap o the couch before, now have a darn headache,. I can't win! Enough about crappy'ol me.

Ferrals, darling I'm so sorry you had another rough night at work. I know exactly how you feel, I don't wan't to go back to work this comming Saturday, dreading it actually. I had hoped to be going back, knowing I'd be taking maternity leave soon, but now have lost hope of that. I remember how hard it was going back last time, I don't know If I can survive it again, wthout telling someone to shove it.
(how am I meant to look after sick people when I feel like I just qwant to tell them to get stufferd??)
"get your own bloody bottle you lazy old man!!!".....................sigh.................. .....

Crafty, you naughty naughty lassie you!!!! Thaught you were gunna hold out with me!!! T'is alright, huggs babe, I understand how hard it is. XXXXXXX

Alice my darling beutifull, you don't need to be sorry about how you feel, you should know, of all places you can have an honest vent, it's here X
My kittens are wonderfull thanks, I took some pics of them yesterday, so I will upload them when I get a chance....(cuz I'm like, so buisy kicking stones around the backyard!) I used to have chooks when I was a kid, I remember my little bro throwing one in the pool and Mum fining it, and bringing the poor thing inside to sit next to the heater...it always came inside after that....

Mildez, that's so grose having to pee on froggies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have froggs all over my fernery ATM, but they don't come inside!!!! Happy BD'ing to you!! Go catch that egg girl!!! XXXXX

Porche, hope the clomid does some tricks this try XX Hope you are well XXXX

Sunbeam, Sevie, hope you are both well XXX

Sunbeam any news yet hon XX

Take care all, I appreciate you all being here for me, I do drop in like a hundred times, I just feel a bit low X

Hi Ladies !

I was just looking around and noticed this thread has been opened ! Hooray ! So glad it actually happened :D (Thanks Mods :hug: )

Will be keeping an eye on you all ;)

Take care ladies and wishing you all the best !

:bluedust::pink-babydust:

xoxo

Ferrals you know so much more about the hormones and what is good or bad than I do...you've obviously done lots of research and it's great to read so I can ask about it too, thanks x I asked my TCM about vitex and she said yes definitely take it if I want to so now from what you've written I think I will. I was on it in an earlier cycle in 06 but I read somewhere it's not good if you have endo but since I haven't had any recurrence of that maybe it is OK so I will try it. Kit said it takes 10 months to work but I don't know about that - time is such a bloody enemy for us - you learn one thing, then another, never in the order you need it in, it's a constant up hill battle of wondering why didn't I know that earlier? Does my head in!! I will speak to my FS about my E2 on day 1 - I've never asked or been told anything maybe it's OK I don't know. I do know my FSH is naturally high so that's why I don't get much response on 450 gonalF but ah well I have to work with what I have. I keep telling myself I only need one good egg...

MurryCod - Kicking stones around the backyard eh? :hug: Poor love it's **** doing this waiting isn't it? It won't be long til you are taking that maternity leave, I promise you! Think of this as a temporary visit to the workplace. You'll just have to use your super powers to banish all annoying people from you. I remember saying to someone once that just because they are old doesn't mean they are nice - I hope you can find a way of making the time go fast while you are there and all the pg nurses are away with flu! Hmm, time for another Indian feast or is curry out while you are waiting? I hope your DH is being kind to you (is he still on a high from your baker's dozen of blasties?) Try to get out of the house for a walk if you can every day, just moving helps the happy hormones and it's good to get sun on your head and remember there's a whole world outside your door. Hang in there xx

Murraycod still praying and hoping and part guessing its your emby making a home which is making the cramps. FX so hard for you. I didn't pee on the frogs just if you flushed they came flying out in the water lol then some would swim down the loo others would scurry back up the rim. FIL insisted his dunny didn't have any then I pulled the cysten of and they were eventwhere inside his also just not getting flushed down. Maybe flushing loos on a camp site aren't all they are cracked up to be after all.

Shame about taking the pill hey? Seems silly just to get in time with the clinic. I am not looking forward to that part as it seems like a whole month wasted. Oh well in the scheme of things what is a month when most of us are up to years now?

I've been having some pretty bad left sided pain. If it doesn't go away or gets any worse I am off to ED. Feel like doing a POAS just to make sure its a BFN (CD14) as if it was a BFP I would be sure I have another EP. GEe just want it to go away. Pain is completely different to my last ectopic have no idea what it is.

Hi Ladies,
I have been so busy have not even had a chance to read all the weekend posts so sorry no prsies but i'll have more time tomorrow.
Just wanted to let you know AF arrived today so hoping for a good bleed (last two months have been very little). I really want this to be my month because then no IVF plus when I had last MC I had a gut feeling I'd be pg again in June so :crossfingers:

My friend sent me my stars for today, sounded pretty good.

Aug 24 - Sep 23 Virgo

Are you feeling lucky? You should be, for the planets now speak of a great blessing being bestowed on you. Careful, though. This may not involve the conventional idea of 'good fortune' involving a lottery win. Think instead about insights gained from new, deeper understandings; about relationships deepening, old fears being conquered; and fresh hopes being awakened. You are being taken out of something that's not so good for you and placed in a position where you can forge a much deeper, more secure and happier future.

Big chats tomorrow

Alice- if your E2 was high im sure your FS would have told you because they wont let you do a cycle with high E2 i do know that high E2 can also supress FSH levels that would explain why my first cancelled cycle i had a FSH of 8 but E2 was 300 and then the next my FSH was 10.5 and my E2 was 187 so i am terrified of my next lot of levels, they do say the older you get the E2 goes down and the FSH goes up but high E2 can also be a sign something is not right my Naturopath seems to think i am just really fertile lots of follies yeh well were the hell are they every month there is lots but they dont want to stick do they.
If you dont mind me asking what have your FSH levels been i have researched up the wahzoo on FSH levels and high E2 and i can tell you i wish i hadnt because now i know what to ask and look for and all the symptoms it makes it more stressful.
Oh and vitex takes 3-6 months to work i took it for one month before i fell pregnant with abbi.

Sunbeam-sorry AF has shown but you knew yourself you were not pregnant same here i know i am not just waiting for the biatch to show.

Mildez-what ivf clinic are you going through?

Ferrals I am going through IVF Australia at Castlehill in Sydney. We are planning on having 2 stim cycles and if we are not successful having a live baby then we will probably take a year off then try Westmead fertility centre because it is alot cheaper. We can only afford 2stim cycles at the moment and I imagine we will need to save up for anymore down the track. Seems so ridiculous that it should be free well it is for 99% of the population.
I thought I would edn up in ED but my pain has eased but now it feels like I am bruised. I think maybe it was kidney stones or else an ovary cyst. It better not be as I need that ovary. Self diagnosing hear ladies don't worry about me lol

Sunbeam - I'm liking the sound of your stars! Just after my mc I was at a friend's place for a party and she had a bowl of fortune cookies. DH and I had been talking through all my anxieties and worries about doing IVF in May and it being winter I'd probably have the flu again. I picked up a cookie and this is what it said (it's now stuck to my fridge): "When winter comes, heaven will reign success on you". I was a bit gobsmacked, and showed DH and he just smiled. It's nice to have good omens and positive feelings - I hope June is your month x

Ferrals, from memory my FSH was close to 10 (I think - might have been 8 or 9?) when I started IVF at 36. I think I recall the doc saying anything over 14 means they can't really stimulate you at all - your only going to get whatever your body is producing. At my last ultrasound my right ovary (that had the big endo cyst in it) was only a few cms and the other was still enlarged from the stimulation of the cycle where I fell pg. I think basically the right one has given up so I'm only working with one now (opposite side to my scarred tube - typical isn't it?) so my expectations are pretty low as to my egg numbers but I still managed to get grade 1 embies last time so hoping I can do that again. Problem with us seems to be they don't stick but that can also be related to quality I've been told so I dunno - pretty crap odds really but I just can't give up. Maybe my blessing will come to me in an unexpected way after all - who knows.

Hi Jahazra!

Mildez - could it be ovulation pain? I get it pretty intensely, mostly due to scarring I think but also am prone to cysts and sometimes they continue to grow after the egg is released then pop and it can be very painful and feel tender like a bruise. I hope it's just o pain for you and not a cyst but even if it is my girls have survived some major interventions due to regular and endo cysts and I'm still popping my eggs my main problem is I don't have a tube to catch them so fingers crossed all is OK with you

Hi guys. Just a quicky as I have to get up for an early shift in the morning. I don't think I'm as techno-savie as most of you. I'm slow....really slow! so just sesponding to
Ferral- several things have lead to the FS labelling my problem as early menopause. My FSH is on the higher side but not too high. My AMH result was 1.8, which means that my ovaries aren't very active...there's really very little going on it there! And thirdly, my response to IVF stimulation is pitiful!! On maximum FSH I can only rustle up an egg or two, I'm in my mid 30s for heavens sake! such a bugger!!

Alice & Sevie-Thats why i am a little unsure of what is going on with me my old FS said she does not know why my FSH is a little high as my ovaries look great they are both normal size i had at least 24 follicles and i stimulated well on 200 iu of puregon actually i stimulated to well that is why my E2 skyrocketed to 16,000 and i had to trigger a bit early so i didnt get a chance for all the smaller follicles to catch up i ended up with 8 eggs all good quality all fertilised but after day 3 they clagged it and the embrologist isnt sure if the fragmentation was due to high E2 or hubbies DNA damage from lifestye ect. we ended up with 3 blasts out of 8 one grade 2 and two grade 3.
When i went to my naturopath she said my right ovary is great pumping out eggs and my left is just plotting along and my FSH is a bit high because of stress i am a stress head so i am hoping that is the cause i am worried that when i cycle this time things will have gotten worse my FSH will be higher and my egg numbers will be low.
I have decided to give WIVF a go see what they say i dont know if i should have my AMH level checked i am scared to know.

Crafty-looks like you and i will be here a bit longer.

I hope it was O pain but I don't think so. Alice I have the same problem no tube to catch the egg. Well I have one tube left but its damaged. Not sure if it can even work as I haven't had a pregnancy since having one tube. Time will tell I guess. I think I freaked out as the pain was in my left ovary the ovary with the tube so I don't want anything to happen to that ovary. I would prefer to have the ovary on the side with the tube if I loose one as although the tube is suppose to beable to catch eggs from either ovary as my tube is stuck down it doesn't move so can't catch the egg from the right tubeless side. Never mind. I wish I would have a baby it would be so lovely to close the book on ttc I hate what it has done to me and my family and career. I have forgotton what chapter I am up to now. Although I don't mean to complain so sorry just having a rant. Over it now. CD15 tried to get a BD this morning but DH was only interested in sleep. Maybe I will have more luck tonight.

Sevie - I did an IVF group counseling session years ago and one of the women in it was 30 and she had already been through menopause and didn't know it. She got a donor egg and fell pg first go at IVF and has a lovely baby boy. I don't know whether telling you that gives you encouragement or not - it would be better to not be going through it I know and I hope that something can still work for you but if you have to go down that road then maybe you will be able to see some hope in it. I have always had low response to IVF as I had so many ops on my ovaries. Just remember that you only need one egg! Hopefully your next one will be a super good one x

Ferrals if you got 24 follies I think your ovarian reserve would be fine so no need to test. The first cycle of IVF isn't often very conclusive and women usually have different results from one cycle to the next and it sounds unclear about what caused your eggs to drop off on day 3. At least this time you and your DH have been working on lifestyle, you're both taking herbs so that should sort that out and they will probably do a different dose to slow your response down this time so you will no doubt get a clearer picture this time (it was only 1 IVF you've done wasn't it? the PGD IVF?). I can relate to being a stress-head, I was a major stress-head in my early 30s and it had a lot to do with what Mildez said about what fertility problems and illness can do to you and your family and career. I am much more calm now but it's been a long time and I've had to learn to deal with stress better. I guess you can only focus on the things you have control over and the other stuff you have to find a way of not letting it effect us so much and with TTC that's the whole damn bundle so easier said than done.

Mildez - my tube is stuck down too so there's no way it's catching any of my poor eggs so I get that you want to hang on to that ovary!! Has the pain has settled? I understand about closing the book on TTC - I was all prepared to do that last year when we got our surprise BFP and it threw everything in the air again. It's a hard path this one but we do our best because we hope that at the end of it we will have a baby to love and look after. Sorry your DH was sleepy - that used to stress me now with IVF in some ways it just removes a whole lot of other stress while giving you a different kind all of its own!

MurryCod - how are you this morning? Is it cooling down in your parts or are you still getting a bit of autumn sun? All rainy up here - gotta go feed my poor chooks, didn't even check on them yesterday.

Hi girls, still crampy as all hell and not in the highest of spirits today, might come back later for some persies, but now, just not up to it. 8dp4dt .

Hi girls,

Murrrycod - big hugs babe sorry you are so crampy.:hug:

Trea - nice to meet you, thank you for tell us the story of your huge journey. Can I ask about the NK cell test was it a bt or a biopsy like Murrycod's? I asked about it at the clinic this morning and she is going to ask my FS about getting it done.

Mildez - good luck with the BD fest hope you catch your eggie.:fertilise:

Ferrals - you poor darling what a total nightmare shift. By the end you must have just felt like the universe was just out to get you. :comfort: Sorry we're both BFN this month. You were asking about clomid and other options, I know I mentioned it before but what about IUI before IVF its way easier and cheaper?

Crafty - Sorry you got a BFN this month too.:hug:

Hi Jahzara, Alice, Stevie and Porche.

AFM- cracked up this morning. My AF is SO perfect this time (IYKWIM) and I thought it was so funny that I am actually happy because of good AF flow, this journey does still have it's funny moments :lol:

Moring everyone

Ferrals yes looks like im stuck in here for the duration ( wonder what the duration time is though ? ) 1yr 2yrs oh well mustn't give up must keep going think positive and try try again !
Luck for me AF turned up in the night so YAY for back to 29 days at least thats right now just gotta work on the egg quality and timing ! Still taking my chinese meds but wondering now If I should try Maca but do I stop the chinese stuff or take both together ??? Mmmm what to do I will be putting DH on the Maca too as its got great read up on sperm quality too !
Anyway another cycle begins at least I didn't have to wait around for AF ( on the bright side ) plus my flow is good bright red and plenty of it so thats good too I think !

Murraycod just because I got a BFN does not mean you will too we know your egg got the sperm and we know it was a Blasty when it went back in and we know your covered by antibiotics right ? So look on the bright side your nearly there only 4 more days after all these months whats another 4 days !!! be keeping everything crossed for you and when you move over to pg after mc and loss ferrals and I will be right behind you ( well a month or so but still there )

Mildez hope you pain is ok now I had that last month but 3 days before AF arived I was convinced I had ectopic or appendix but after a lie down and some codeine it went away and the next day I was fine so have no idea what it was for me but for you I do rather think maybe your egg popping or something you eaten didn't agree with you ie digestion !!! the pains are so hard to pin point at times for me anyway !
hope your DH is more awake today !!!!

Porshe looks like we gonna be here the full year before we get our BFP but as well as older we are all the more wiser I think.

( Hey what about Kick up the dust in August !!!! )

Crafty the pain is gone now thank the Lord. If it was my right side I wouldn't have cared so much but I don't want anything to go wrong with the left side so freaked me out. It was also a fraction high so maybe it was kidney pain and possible a tiny kidney stone. The pain was terrible and came and went not there all the time but gone now. And just an hr ago I got a tiny bit of definately left sided ovary pain so thats exciting as its O time now (usual O CD17 but last cycle was CD14 and now I am CD15) so that is exciting just need to get a BD in today and maybe tomorrow and the next day (yeah right Mildez)

So my appointment with the Dr is 8th July sort of seems ages away but its not really. If I get pregnant this cycle I can turn it into an AN appontment if only that would be super cool. AF is due from that date onwards so hoping to beable to start the pill when AF arrives after that date. I also made the appointment just before AF was due by a day so I can do a POAS and no its defimately a BFN. Don't want to go there to start IVF only to find out I am pregnant obviously that would be ideal for me but I'd rather no AF is coming if I am going to go start then. And I have heard so many people just about to start IVF only to find out they are just pregnant so I am feeling pretty hopeful surprisingly. Hoping I am one of those.

I advertised my horse today hoping she sells as I wont be able to ride her when I am pregnant please please let that be the case.

Hi Ladies

MarrayCod - I really hope those cramps settle down for you. Are they like a low down cramp? Like a pelvic pain type of thing?

Sunbeam - LOL I was pretty much the same as you when my AF arrived.

Ferrals - It's dissapointing isn't it? I'm amazed that we somehow get back up and try again. I mean how much more of being knocked to the ground do we have to go through? We all need to catch a break soon surely?

Mildez - I know what you mean about your appointment being so far away. All we do is wait. Wait for this, wait for that have our useless appointments and wait again. It's been 1 year 3 months 3 weeks and 3 days since we started this TTC journey. Not sure how much more I can take. I'm really not cut out for this assisted conception stuff. But we'll push on untill Dec I think and then I'll be telling DH that, that's it i've had enough.

Crafty - I guess we'll be stuck here together for a while. At least we're in good company.

FX we all get our BFP within the next 6 months.

Sunbeam - BT and biopsy. I had to fly down to Sydney for it and went to St George hospital Kogarah for BT and then into docs rooms at Bondi for biopsy. BT levels came back high but biopsy was normal.

Just some info about something else I found in an old post today - a bacteria called ureaplasma which is passed between partners with sexual contact and can affect fertility. Emailed my doc to enquire and he said I can have a cervical biopsy to check or just take a course of antibiotics with this cycle. It can't hurt so will take the antibiotic leading up to next FET.

Good luck to all your gals on this tough road - we'll all get there one day!!

Cheers Trea

Porche, the cramps have been exactly the same as if I were getting AF, but today, they are to my right side, in my groin area, but flutter over to the middle everynow and then. When I say flutter, I feel like bubbles down there if that makes any sense what so ever....doesn't to me!!:wall:
And...as for the time you have spent TTC, honey never give up hope XXX It will be worth all of this heartache, Im so sure of it X

Trea, the cervical biopsy sounds painfull, crossing my leggs just thinking about it actually!! I have had a colposcopy, which I think is the same??? When my papsmear results came up with alarm bells 10 years ago. Was nothing, but the biopsy was terrible. I'd go woth the antibiotics too!!!!

Mildez, that happened to one of my friends, she was TTC for 7 years, only to find out she was PG when she was running late to start her FSH. I was hopefull to hearing that story, but those things seem to happen to 'other' people.
Good luck with your appt in July honey, it will come around quickly, and I am so glad to hear that you are feeling better, glad you didn't have to go to ER XXXXX

Crafty, thanks for the pep talk, but I'm really not feeling that great, and I think I will still be here next month, but thats ok, I love you girls so much. I just wish that I could be an escapee one day.

Ferrals have you had to work again since the other night?? I hope you are ok, you have been my inspiration through all this, and I hate to see you hurt. I feel bad for leaning on you so much this ivf cycle, knowing you have your own problems to deal with, but , I dunno, thank you babe, I love you X

Sunbeam, you crack me up!!! Very happy to hear that you have a nice healthy flow this month, take care my honey XXXXX It won't be long untill you have porno boobs again!XXXXX

Sevie, huggs X

Sorry if I missed anyone, Alice, love you X


Am watching survivour, GO RUSSELL !!!!!!:bluecheer:

Hi Ladies

MurrayCod - I really really hope that the cramps are a really good sign that your little emby stuck. I had AF cramps like that when we got our BFP. I'm holding my breath for you.

Hope everyone has a great day. Don't work too hard.

Morning ladies,

I'm just popping in quickly to say hi - I've read all your posts, and all good here, just feeling really tired today from too many trips up and down the mountains so just going to lay low today. Hugs to you all

x

OMG Girls, I totally caved thismorning, I couldn't put up with the cramping any longer not knowing, my HPT came back a strong positive.
NOW i'm freaking out, the cramps have somewhat eased into a stitch like pinching in my right groin, im in totall shock right now!
I'm pacing up and down my kitchen, extatic and so nervouse now, I rang my clinic and they will bring my beta forward only 1 day, they told me to just take it easy untill then. They didn't seem that thrilled about it, I guess they see so many bad endings too. Now I'm freaking out.

MurryCod!!!! Oh my god! That's wonderful!!!!!!!!! The only thing to be careful about is the progesterone support. If you had injections then you are def clear by now!! If you are taking pessaries, that could influence the result. Oh lovely I'm so glad this has lifted your spirits up - you are in with such a good fighting chance with this one, it's been hard to see you so low. So exciting!!!!!! xxxxooo When is your blood test??? xxxxoo

Just read your post in the other thread - MurryCod - this sounds fantastic - like a definite positive for you!!! so happy for you you must be grinning from ear to ear!!!! CONGRATS girl! We knew you could do it!!!!! Just enjoy this moment, you don't have to do anything but be pretty damn chuffed with yourself and your DH xxxxxoooooo Yah!!!!:dance::leap::confetti::loveshower:

Thanks Alice X
The crinone pessaries won't affect the test, and I did not have any triggers that would affect the test either, so I'm pretty excited, but have to controll myself untill Monday XX Beta Monday XX

Hi all.

Just wanted to say :clap: :dance: :loveshower::happyforyou::hooray:
to you murraycod .

I have been praying for this to happen since I met you on the IUI thread.
You have been so absolutley wonderful to so many people and so supportive and kind.

To all the other ladies on here lets hope that this is the begining of many more BFP's.

I will properly introduce myself and do personals later as I have to go music with DD.

Again Murray cod CONGRATULATIONS.

Yay MurrayCod I knew it LOL!!!!!!!

Murraycod :hug:

:happyforyou:

Congratulations gorgeous !!!

:leap:

(when you get your results i will celebrate some more but for now i will stay calm !)

xoxoxo

Congratulations Murraycod ( you should always listen to your mum well your cyber mum anyways ) seems my pep talk was the right advice oh I so love to be right !!!!!!
Yay for you now take it easy its a long road ahead but you are at the starting line now you have to stay calm and work your way up the next 36wks or so its not going to be easy but it is POSSIBLE IF you beleive in yourself !!!

Congratulations my dear friend I said you could get a BFP before me and now its my turn !!!! ( well sure hope so anyway )

Hi ladies,

Murrycod i emailed you at home i will talk to you some more later i am having a hard time at the moment i am reallllllllllllllllllllllly P#SSED off at my old FS.
How do i explain in the short version all our fertility test came back all normal good fertility sperm count ect. after the PGD as you know we decided to try the natural way and i spoke to my old FS about my concerns with my FSH level anyway she said all is good DH sperm is great so she sees no problem why we wont be pregnant in a few months.
Well todays FS looked at all the results went through me first.
Ovaries-excellent
Follicle numbers-excellent
IVF response-great
Fertilisation-excellent
Basicly she said i am perfect and the FSH if around the same level next BT is no indication of my fertility as i have heaps of follicles and responded really well to a low dose of puregon that she sees no problem with me i am to have another U/S on day 7 of this cycle just to check my uterus after Abbi's birth.
Then she got to DH.
Sperm test.
Quantity-fabulous 477 million above average.
Wash test-excellent.
Motiliy-excellent.
PH level perfect.
Colour-perfect
Morpology-She stops and says the normal ratio of normal heads of sperm is 15% or more DH has 4% that are normal the tails ect are in the normal range so basicly she said 95% of DH sperm have abnormal shaped heads and they would most likely not penetrate my eggs so out of the 477 million great strong swimming sperm only 4% are any good to get me prgenant WTF!! we were told his seman test was perfectly normal the FS said we can get pregnant naturally but it could take a while so we just wasted another 6 months and all for nothing and this whole time i have been worried it is me that is the problem why would they tell us he sperm is great when it is not?
She did say it is caused by lifestye and can be corrected.
So i am booked in to see the nurse on the 3rd of june and then we wait for my next AF ( not the one due now) and hope they can fit me in if not then it will be the end of july AF.
As for the genetic issue they were great and said lets get you pregnant quick so we can test this next baby.
I am going to google sperm morphology and see for myself what is suppose to be normal

Hi girls-have been MIA from other threads but plan to join this one, just lurking at the mo cos I broke my computer (accidently smashed the LCD screen:redface:) and have to wrestle dh to get on his computer until mines fixed, but just snuck in to say:

(quietly and calmly):leap:

YAY Murrycod!!:happyforyou:

good on you lovely lady, keep calm and positive, and good luck monday, saffy xx

p.s. sorry to hear that ferals, you must be furious at the first FS

Murrycod CONGRATULATIONS :D:D:D OMG this is soooo exciting the first BFP on our new thread. So happy for you babe. Take it easy.

Ferrals - How hugely frustrating, I can't believe they told you everything was perfect before. OMG though, 477 million is huge. Even with 4% thats 20 million good sperm which is more than many men manage. I hope they can get you in quickly and get those good sperms working.